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Postby Kyraina » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:14 am

Croker, Joseph and the Iranian are in the Kozak, Evander should be in the BTR.
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Postby Relikai » Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:12 am

Guessed I missed most of the WW2 and veteran stuff *munches* altho the closest I been to real fighting (not even combat) was wargames with US Marines and Indonesian Paratroopers (Memorable), or saving a conscript from being blown up by 4kg of C3 explosives :rofl:
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Postby Greater Slavic Union » Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:18 am

I ned a tip (16th century warfare).

I have 103 cannons, Taborites, and an absurd ammount of cavalry.

To fight the Ottomans, is the following combination good?

1. High terrain (for artillery)
2. Moderately plain plains after the high terrain (for Taborites and Cavalry)
3. Vast spaces (for cavalry)
Official Name: ZápadoSłováńský Králevství
Population: 124.480.112

King: Král Michal I Kolovrát
Population growth: 2,3%

Queen: Královna Klaudia Katmařková-Kolovrátová
PPP GDP: 5.848 billion SK (Slavic Krunas)

Heirs: Crown Prince Oleg, Crown Princess Sylvia,
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Postby Kyraina » Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:21 am

Greater Slavic Union wrote:I ned a tip (16th century warfare).

I have 103 cannons, Taborites, and an absurd ammount of cavalry.

To fight the Ottomans, is the following combination good?

1. High terrain (for artillery)
2. Moderately plain plains after the high terrain (for Taborites and Cavalry)
3. Vast spaces (for cavalry)

Depends.

Usually that is a good combination, but the Ottomans where masters of using Gunpowder, they had decent Calvary, and had good infantry.

That's a good combination but it will boil down to numbers depending on how the Ottoman Forces look like
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Postby Kyraina » Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:22 am

Relikai wrote:Guessed I missed most of the WW2 and veteran stuff *munches* altho the closest I been to real fighting (not even combat) was wargames with US Marines and Indonesian Paratroopers (Memorable), or saving a conscript from being blown up by 4kg of C3 explosives :rofl:

Jesus, was he asking to become part of a outer space program?

Also how did that expertise go for ya?
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Postby Greater Slavic Union » Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:24 am

Kyraina wrote:
Greater Slavic Union wrote:I ned a tip (16th century warfare).

I have 103 cannons, Taborites, and an absurd ammount of cavalry.

To fight the Ottomans, is the following combination good?

1. High terrain (for artillery)
2. Moderately plain plains after the high terrain (for Taborites and Cavalry)
3. Vast spaces (for cavalry)

Depends.

Usually that is a good combination, but the Ottomans where masters of using Gunpowder, they had decent Calvary, and had good infantry.

That's a good combination but it will boil down to numbers depending on how the Ottoman Forces look like


It would be like Mohacs, with me having my full ranks and ore artillery (I am Hungary-Bohemia). And Poles, Austrians, and Muscoviets would join.
So... the coalition army would be like 60,000 while the Ottomans are 45,000-55,000.
And, Polish Cavalry is meant to perform raids against the Ottoman columns, targeting the artillery.
Official Name: ZápadoSłováńský Králevství
Population: 124.480.112

King: Král Michal I Kolovrát
Population growth: 2,3%

Queen: Královna Klaudia Katmařková-Kolovrátová
PPP GDP: 5.848 billion SK (Slavic Krunas)

Heirs: Crown Prince Oleg, Crown Princess Sylvia,
Warsaw Dukess Oksana, Prince of Prague Paveł
Nominal GDP: 3.868 billion USD

Current Royal Family: Kolovrát House
Fertility Index: 2,1 childs per woman

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Postby Kyraina » Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:13 am

Greater Slavic Union wrote:
Kyraina wrote:Depends.

Usually that is a good combination, but the Ottomans where masters of using Gunpowder, they had decent Calvary, and had good infantry.

That's a good combination but it will boil down to numbers depending on how the Ottoman Forces look like


It would be like Mohacs, with me having my full ranks and ore artillery (I am Hungary-Bohemia). And Poles, Austrians, and Muscoviets would join.
So... the coalition army would be like 60,000 while the Ottomans are 45,000-55,000.
And, Polish Cavalry is meant to perform raids against the Ottoman columns, targeting the artillery.

What Century is this?

I assume 12th through 19th?
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Postby Greater Slavic Union » Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:17 am

Kyraina wrote:
Greater Slavic Union wrote:
It would be like Mohacs, with me having my full ranks and ore artillery (I am Hungary-Bohemia). And Poles, Austrians, and Muscoviets would join.
So... the coalition army would be like 60,000 while the Ottomans are 45,000-55,000.
And, Polish Cavalry is meant to perform raids against the Ottoman columns, targeting the artillery.

What Century is this?

I assume 12th through 19th?

It is expected that the battle occurs btween 1521 and 1530.
Official Name: ZápadoSłováńský Králevství
Population: 124.480.112

King: Král Michal I Kolovrát
Population growth: 2,3%

Queen: Královna Klaudia Katmařková-Kolovrátová
PPP GDP: 5.848 billion SK (Slavic Krunas)

Heirs: Crown Prince Oleg, Crown Princess Sylvia,
Warsaw Dukess Oksana, Prince of Prague Paveł
Nominal GDP: 3.868 billion USD

Current Royal Family: Kolovrát House
Fertility Index: 2,1 childs per woman

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Postby Kyraina » Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:25 am

Greater Slavic Union wrote:
Kyraina wrote:What Century is this?

I assume 12th through 19th?

It is expected that the battle occurs btween 1521 and 1530.

So Since your Hungry, and this is around time the Hussars are created, a elite and unconventional light Cavalry. You should have horse archers as well.

Use the Horse archers to hurras The infantry and cav of the Turks, while being harassed use the Hussars and polish heavy cav to smash into and through the shield wall.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is suppose to go here?

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Postby Greater Slavic Union » Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:33 am

Kyraina wrote:
Greater Slavic Union wrote:It is expected that the battle occurs btween 1521 and 1530.

So Since your Hungry, and this is around time the Hussars are created, a elite and unconventional light Cavalry. You should have horse archers as well.

Use the Horse archers to hurras The infantry and cav of the Turks, while being harassed use the Hussars and polish heavy cav to smash into and through the shield wall.


Ok. What we were going to do was to constatly raid the ottoman columns to deprive them of their artillery, then, once in battle, place the Taborites as a bait for the ottoman cavalry, so they could come. While the Taborites retire into the Wagenburg, Polish and Hungarian cavalry would have engaged the Ottoman one. Thus, the Ottoman cavalry would have been outnumbered.
In the meanwhile, our light cavalry would have disorganized the Ottoman Infantry, previously blasted by artillery, to make it weak eough to be flanked by the Muscovite heavy infantry and to be attacked in the front by the Heavy Hungarian and Polish cavalry. The Taborites would attack from the other flank.
Official Name: ZápadoSłováńský Králevství
Population: 124.480.112

King: Král Michal I Kolovrát
Population growth: 2,3%

Queen: Královna Klaudia Katmařková-Kolovrátová
PPP GDP: 5.848 billion SK (Slavic Krunas)

Heirs: Crown Prince Oleg, Crown Princess Sylvia,
Warsaw Dukess Oksana, Prince of Prague Paveł
Nominal GDP: 3.868 billion USD

Current Royal Family: Kolovrát House
Fertility Index: 2,1 childs per woman

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Postby Kyraina » Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:37 am

Greater Slavic Union wrote:
Kyraina wrote:So Since your Hungry, and this is around time the Hussars are created, a elite and unconventional light Cavalry. You should have horse archers as well.

Use the Horse archers to hurras The infantry and cav of the Turks, while being harassed use the Hussars and polish heavy cav to smash into and through the shield wall.


Ok. What we were going to do was to constatly raid the ottoman columns to deprive them of their artillery, then, once in battle, place the Taborites as a bait for the ottoman cavalry, so they could come. While the Taborites retire into the Wagenburg, Polish and Hungarian cavalry would have engaged the Ottoman one. Thus, the Ottoman cavalry would have been outnumbered.
In the meanwhile, our light cavalry would have disorganized the Ottoman Infantry, previously blasted by artillery, to make it weak eough to be flanked by the Muscovite heavy infantry and to be attacked in the front by the Heavy Hungarian and Polish cavalry. The Taborites would attack from the other flank.

That would work. I was thinking full out battle.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is suppose to go here?

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Postby Svebia » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:31 am

We may need to redeploy into Afghanistan, the mountain Tallies are getting jumpy and more courageous.
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Postby Greater Slavic Union » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:34 am

Svebia wrote:We may need to redeploy into Afghanistan, the mountain Tallies are getting jumpy and more courageous.

Or in Donbass
Official Name: ZápadoSłováńský Králevství
Population: 124.480.112

King: Král Michal I Kolovrát
Population growth: 2,3%

Queen: Královna Klaudia Katmařková-Kolovrátová
PPP GDP: 5.848 billion SK (Slavic Krunas)

Heirs: Crown Prince Oleg, Crown Princess Sylvia,
Warsaw Dukess Oksana, Prince of Prague Paveł
Nominal GDP: 3.868 billion USD

Current Royal Family: Kolovrát House
Fertility Index: 2,1 childs per woman

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Postby Svebia » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:35 am

Greater Slavic Union wrote:
Svebia wrote:We may need to redeploy into Afghanistan, the mountain Tallies are getting jumpy and more courageous.

Or in Donbass

I was referring to the bombing that have happened during the week.
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Postby Kyraina » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:36 am

Svebia wrote:We may need to redeploy into Afghanistan, the mountain Tallies are getting jumpy and more courageous.

While ISAF issue there, there is no point in Peacekeepers deploying to Afghanistan.
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Postby Svebia » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:38 am

Kyraina wrote:
Svebia wrote:We may need to redeploy into Afghanistan, the mountain Tallies are getting jumpy and more courageous.

While ISAF issue there, there is no point in Peacekeepers deploying to Afghanistan.

ISAF withdrew from Afghanistan in 2014 though.
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Postby Greater Slavic Union » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:43 am

Svebia wrote:
Greater Slavic Union wrote:Or in Donbass

I was referring to the bombing that have happened during the week.

Ah, sorry... (this is the moment when I would like to say myopinion, but I won't do that)
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Official Name: ZápadoSłováńský Králevství
Population: 124.480.112

King: Král Michal I Kolovrát
Population growth: 2,3%

Queen: Královna Klaudia Katmařková-Kolovrátová
PPP GDP: 5.848 billion SK (Slavic Krunas)

Heirs: Crown Prince Oleg, Crown Princess Sylvia,
Warsaw Dukess Oksana, Prince of Prague Paveł
Nominal GDP: 3.868 billion USD

Current Royal Family: Kolovrát House
Fertility Index: 2,1 childs per woman

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Postby Svebia » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:45 am

Greater Slavic Union wrote:
Svebia wrote:I was referring to the bombing that have happened during the week.

Ah, sorry... this is the moment when I would like to say my

But right now the PK can be deployed to Chad, Nigeria, Mexico, Syria, Donbass, Crimea, and Iraq from the ongoing conflicts occurring in the region.
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Postby Greater Slavic Union » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:47 am

Svebia wrote:
Greater Slavic Union wrote:Ah, sorry... this is the moment when I would like to say my

But right now the PK can be deployed to Chad, Nigeria, Mexico, Syria, Donbass, Crimea, and Iraq from the ongoing conflicts occurring in the region.

To do what in Crimea?
Official Name: ZápadoSłováńský Králevství
Population: 124.480.112

King: Král Michal I Kolovrát
Population growth: 2,3%

Queen: Královna Klaudia Katmařková-Kolovrátová
PPP GDP: 5.848 billion SK (Slavic Krunas)

Heirs: Crown Prince Oleg, Crown Princess Sylvia,
Warsaw Dukess Oksana, Prince of Prague Paveł
Nominal GDP: 3.868 billion USD

Current Royal Family: Kolovrát House
Fertility Index: 2,1 childs per woman

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Postby Svebia » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:48 am

Greater Slavic Union wrote:
Svebia wrote:But right now the PK can be deployed to Chad, Nigeria, Mexico, Syria, Donbass, Crimea, and Iraq from the ongoing conflicts occurring in the region.

To do what in Crimea?

I would assume to possibly forcefully put Crimea back in Ukraine.
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Postby Kyraina » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:53 am

Svebia wrote:
Kyraina wrote:While ISAF issue there, there is no point in Peacekeepers deploying to Afghanistan.

ISAF withdrew from Afghanistan in 2014 though.

No they didn't. The name changed from ISAF to RSM (Resolute Support Mission) when OEF ended and Operation Resolute Support started up.


Svebia wrote:
Greater Slavic Union wrote:To do what in Crimea?

I would assume to possibly forcefully put Crimea back in Ukraine.


Russian Troops occupy Crimea. Those troops are of a sovereign nation which means that as a UNSC unit we would be launching a attack on a UNSC member. It's our job to stop terrorist, not to stop conflicts. The conflict part is part of the Peacekeeping Corp, not the Peacekeeper Anti-terrororist unit.
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Postby Svebia » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:54 am

Kyraina wrote:
Svebia wrote:ISAF withdrew from Afghanistan in 2014 though.

No they didn't. The name changed from ISAF to RSM (Resolute Support Mission) when OEF ended and Operation Resolute Support started up.


Svebia wrote:I would assume to possibly forcefully put Crimea back in Ukraine.


Russian Troops occupy Crimea. Those troops are of a sovereign nation which means that as a UNSC unit we would be launching a attack on a UNSC member. It's our job to stop terrorist, not to stop conflicts. The conflict part is part of the Peacekeeping Corp, not the Peacekeeper Anti-terrororist unit.

Ah, this I wasn't aware of. Thanks.

Then Crimea and Donbass are off the options.
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Postby Greater Slavic Union » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:56 am

Svebia wrote:
Greater Slavic Union wrote:To do what in Crimea?

I would assume to possibly forcefully put Crimea back in Ukraine.

Yeah, we would basically be giving it to people who violated their rights, and who like nazis a lot (take a look af Canal+ documentary "Ukraine: the Masques of a Revolution"). Not to mention we would have to fight against 25,000 (to the minimum, 35,000 to the max.) of the troops of the 2nd best army in the world. Not to mention their troops in Crimea have a high proportion of guards soldiers, have tanks, S-400s, S-300s, and BUK systems, other missile systems, Rocket Launchers, SPGs, and some of the best aircraft in Russia.
In case we would do this, my carachter would be out. Not only because it is impossible and suicidal, but even because he is a filo-russian.
Official Name: ZápadoSłováńský Králevství
Population: 124.480.112

King: Král Michal I Kolovrát
Population growth: 2,3%

Queen: Královna Klaudia Katmařková-Kolovrátová
PPP GDP: 5.848 billion SK (Slavic Krunas)

Heirs: Crown Prince Oleg, Crown Princess Sylvia,
Warsaw Dukess Oksana, Prince of Prague Paveł
Nominal GDP: 3.868 billion USD

Current Royal Family: Kolovrát House
Fertility Index: 2,1 childs per woman

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Postby Svebia » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:57 am

Greater Slavic Union wrote:
Svebia wrote:I would assume to possibly forcefully put Crimea back in Ukraine.

Yeah, we would basically be giving it to people who violated their rights, and who like nazis a lot (take a look af Canal+ documentary "Ukraine: the Masques of a Revolution"). Not to mention we would have to fight against 25,000 (to the minimum, 35,000 to the max.) of the troops of the 2nd best army in the world. Not to mention their troops in Crimea have a high proportion of guards soldiers, have tanks, S-400s, S-300s, and BUK systems, other missile systems, Rocket Launchers, SPGs, and some of the best aircraft in Russia.
In case we would do this, my carachter would be out. Not only because it is impossible and suicidal, but even because he is a filo-russian.

Bro. I don't want to start this in this thread, if you want to talk about it. TG me.
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Postby Greater Slavic Union » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:59 am

Svebia wrote:
Kyraina wrote:No they didn't. The name changed from ISAF to RSM (Resolute Support Mission) when OEF ended and Operation Resolute Support started up.




Russian Troops occupy Crimea. Those troops are of a sovereign nation which means that as a UNSC unit we would be launching a attack on a UNSC member. It's our job to stop terrorist, not to stop conflicts. The conflict part is part of the Peacekeeping Corp, not the Peacekeeper Anti-terrororist unit.

Ah, this I wasn't aware of. Thanks.

Then Crimea and Donbass are off the options.

I do not want to start another NSG debate but... I was not really an occupation, if it was, then Kosovo is under occupation (and I would recognize both referendums). However, Donbass can still be an option, as far as we do not fight the Ukrainian Army, but we fight the Nazi-Battalions. Oh, and the Ukrainian Army would be good too, given how Poroshenko wants to win the war (sorry, I will stop here...)
Official Name: ZápadoSłováńský Králevství
Population: 124.480.112

King: Král Michal I Kolovrát
Population growth: 2,3%

Queen: Královna Klaudia Katmařková-Kolovrátová
PPP GDP: 5.848 billion SK (Slavic Krunas)

Heirs: Crown Prince Oleg, Crown Princess Sylvia,
Warsaw Dukess Oksana, Prince of Prague Paveł
Nominal GDP: 3.868 billion USD

Current Royal Family: Kolovrát House
Fertility Index: 2,1 childs per woman

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