2017: Trial by Fire (OOC/Sign-Ups) [TG for Invite]

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

I don't think so. Well, in reality, the crimes they are accused of would fall into a few different categories for a few different courts, but like the Yugoslavia Tribunal, you can mix them all together into one big accusation. However, such an international body would not be able to demand the death penalty, especially since Russia is bound by the European Convention for Human Rights, which forbids the use of the death penalty. So, yeah, no, the post makes perfect sense, other than the death penalty bit.



So, what are we going to do?

What would have to happen in order for the death penalty to be allowed, especially since Syria, Gaddafi's kin, Egypt, and most of the Arab countries are demanding the accused be put to death if found guilty?

Well, if those countries somehow got to prosecute those people under their own national laws, and if they have the death penalty, they could try something like that. International courts, however, won't condemn people to death.

Hmmm, that won't fly. Even hypocrites can sue in a court of law. I think we'll need to show that international law cannot govern the internal affairs of nations, and that the defendants were acting in their national interest. So, for instance, prove that the wars were justified and that the US didn't even try to kill Assad or Khadaffi. Then, we can move that Obama is a head of state, protected under international law from international prosecution.

Ermergerd, Gaddafi's name. How many ways are there to spell it?!

Since all of those are transliterations of the Arabic, as many as there are languages and pronunciations.

[Krugeristan]

What would have to happen in order for the death penalty to be allowed, especially since Syria, Gaddafi's kin, Egypt, and most of the Arab countries are demanding the accused be put to death if found guilty?

Well, if those countries somehow got to prosecute those people under their own national laws, and if they have the death penalty, they could try something like that. International courts, however, won't condemn people to death.

Ermergerd, Gaddafi's name. How many ways are there to spell it?!

Since all of those are transliterations of the Arabic, as many as there are languages and pronunciations.

How did the Nazis get put to death, then?

I bet Gaddafi's looking at me from Purgatory and laughing his ass off.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Well, if those countries somehow got to prosecute those people under their own national laws, and if they have the death penalty, they could try something like that. International courts, however, won't condemn people to death.



Since all of those are transliterations of the Arabic, as many as there are languages and pronunciations.

How did the Nazis get put to death, then?

I bet Gaddafi's looking at me from Purgatory and laughing his ass off.

The Nazi's were put to death both after a horrible, million-death conflict, and, more importantly, before international law as we know it today was implemented. The international taboo against the death penalty is of a later date. But even in the Yugoslav conflict, not death sentences were ordered. Saddam Hussein, for instance, was executed under Iraqi law. Had he been tried by the International Criminal Court or a tribunal, he would've been given a life sentence. That's the best tribunals can do.

[Krugeristan]

How did the Nazis get put to death, then?

I bet Gaddafi's looking at me from Purgatory and laughing his ass off.

The Nazi's were put to death both after a horrible, million-death conflict, and, more importantly, before international law as we know it today was implemented. The international taboo against the death penalty is of a later date. But even in the Yugoslav conflict, not death sentences were ordered. Saddam Hussein, for instance, was executed under Iraqi law. Had he been tried by the International Criminal Court or a tribunal, he would've been given a life sentence. That's the best tribunals can do.

Alright. Should the penalty be edited out, or revise they be tried under Russian law?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

The Nazi's were put to death both after a horrible, million-death conflict, and, more importantly, before international law as we know it today was implemented. The international taboo against the death penalty is of a later date. But even in the Yugoslav conflict, not death sentences were ordered. Saddam Hussein, for instance, was executed under Iraqi law. Had he been tried by the International Criminal Court or a tribunal, he would've been given a life sentence. That's the best tribunals can do.

Alright. Should the penalty be edited out, or revise they be tried under Russian law?

Hmmmm...

Were I a national leader who definitely, positively without a doubt wanted these people dead, I'd make two different cases. One for the international crimes in a tribunal, and one for the acts of violence against your own citizens. So, for instance; you split the accusation. You try them for most crimes in a tribunal, but for the killing of Khadaffi, you have them tried under Libyan law. That way, you can both have an international tribunal, and you can put them to death. So, I say: split the accusation in two parts.

[Krugeristan]

Alright. Should the penalty be edited out, or revise they be tried under Russian law?

Hmmmm...

Were I a national leader who definitely, positively without a doubt wanted these people dead, I'd make two different cases. One for the international crimes in a tribunal, and one for the acts of violence against your own citizens. So, for instance; you split the accusation. You try them for most crimes in a tribunal, but for the killing of Khadaffi, you have them tried under Libyan law. That way, you can both have an international tribunal, and you can put them to death. So, I say: split the accusation in two parts.

Makes sense.

You can have your character bring something up if you want. It looks like Abdullah and Norman are going to fight soon.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

I will! I hope.

Also, just as a little point: in a court of law, lawyers address each other via the president of the court, not by directly calling each other by name.

[Krugeristan]

I will! I hope.

Also, just as a little point: in a court of law, lawyers address each other via the president of the court, not by directly calling each other by name.

Oh, OK.

(Isn't Norman supposed to call Abdullah "His Majesty", whether he hates him or not?)

[The United Holy German Reich]

We need to show that the judges that this is a show trial and that it is hypocritical for Russia to makes these accusations since they have committed the same crimes.

Hmmm, that won't fly. Even hypocrites can sue in a court of law. I think we'll need to show that international law cannot govern the internal affairs of nations, and that the defendants were acting in their national interest. So, for instance, prove that the wars were justified and that the US didn't even try to kill Assad or Khadaffi. Then, we can move that Obama is a head of state, protected under international law from international prosecution.

Alrigh.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

I will! I hope.

Also, just as a little point: in a court of law, lawyers address each other via the president of the court, not by directly calling each other by name.

Oh, OK.

(Isn't Norman supposed to call Abdullah "His Majesty", whether he hates him or not?)

Oh no, don't worry! This is something lawyers get wrong all the time themselves. Nothing to be worried about.

Hmmm... Yes, when talking about a head of state for another nation, Norman should really use polite terms. Not 'Obama', but 'former president Obama, the Defendant', and not Abdullah, but 'His Majesty, King Abdullah'.

[Crockerland]

>Nunez involved in invasion of Haiti, invasion of Afghanistan, and both invasions of Iraq,
>listed as a defendant
>not being charged
k.

I was under the (apparently incorrect) impression that everyone responsible for the invasion of Libya or pro-FSA intervention in the Syrian civil war was being charged.

[The United Federation of Terrans]

Character App:

Character Name:Major Richard Hale

Character Nationality: American

Character Appearance: 5'10; A regular frame with an increasingly skinny build due to borderline malnutrition. His black hair is in a sloppy crew cut and his face has a four day old patch of stubble. He has burn marks running down from the back of his jaw down the entire right side of his body. His skin is a pasty white from the long days spent in his cell.

Character Role: Defendant

Character Biography: Born on August-27-1985 in Tampa, Florida; Hale was as normal as any kid could have been. His family lived in the nearby suburbs and his dad had a steady job in the Tampa Bay Port. He never distinguished himself in any way and was in reality part of the crowd; something that he despised, yet never tried to change. Without any real effort he earned solid B's in school and ran enough track in high school to get him a college scholarship. There he earned a degree in Chemical Engineering, albeit by the skin of his teeth and with no help from his constant barhopping. Yet he came out of college with no favorable offers and the outstretched arms of his parents had long since closed after a heated argument two years prior to his graduation.

With no real direction, Hale joined the US Army and attended OCS in Fort Benning. There under the watchful and ever seeing eye of Master Sergeant Parker, Hale was stripped of his sluggish and lazy ways and molded into the the by the book officer's the Army was looking for. From Benning came a three year long stretch oversea's which Hale survived with five firefights to his name and not a single injury except for scrapes and bruises. Now combat tested, Hale was sent to Fort Detrick, Maryland where due to his since unused degree he was selected for the then experimental Unconventional Tactical Deployment Group; a steadily growing force that was being prepared for the near future. For the next few years, Hale trained with the blooming UTDG and studied across the world with many military groups, regular and irregular. By the time WWIII came around, Hale had learned the trials and errors of his field of warfare and was determined to make sure his knowledge would ensure his country's victory.

For the entirety of WWIII Hale and the UTDG were used mainly quell resilient populations that refused to respond to the advice and orders of NATO. This was done mainly through the use of large amounts of nerve gas or in some cases mustard gas; however the effect was the same and whole cities became dead zones almost overnight as those who survived either disappeared into relocation camps or into the wilderness. Then it was also the job of the UTDG to erase all traces of their presence, often through the liberal use of flamethrowers and other incendiary devices. However his most momentous and infamous moment came during the Siege of Tel Aviv where battered US Forces were being pushed back and Hale deployed a weaponized fast killing version of Ebola into the general populace. This then spread to the IDF defenders and slowed down their counterattack, enough for the American forces to retreat as the Israeli's spent critical time and manpower cutting off sections of Tel Aviv and their armed forces. Killing the disease at great cost in life and allowing a greater number of Americans to retreat; although hHale was caught in a burning vehicle and severely wounded during said retreat.

The capture of Hale came after the UTGD retreated into the US's interior while Hale remained in Fort Detrick to destroy classified and hazardous materials; even as Russian Spetsnaz were beating down the doors of the lab. There was still enough left to try him and the unit patch didn't help things either. SO Hale sat locked away, waiting for what would come next.

Character Personality: Is it alright if I let the character form on the fly? I always like responding to the situation as it is instead of whatever I put in apps.

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[Krugeristan]

Character App:

Character Name:Major Richard Hale

Character Nationality: American

Character Appearance: 5'10; A regular frame with an increasingly skinny build due to borderline malnutrition. His black hair is in a sloppy crew cut and his face has a four day old patch of stubble. He has burn marks running down from the back of his jaw down the entire right side of his body. His skin is a pasty white from the long days spent in his cell.

Character Role: Defendant

Character Biography: Born on August-27-1985 in Tampa, Florida; Hale was as normal as any kid could have been. His family lived in the nearby suburbs and his dad had a steady job in the Tampa Bay Port. He never distinguished himself in any way and was in reality part of the crowd; something that he despised, yet never tried to change. Without any real effort he earned solid B's in school and ran enough track in high school to get him a college scholarship. There he earned a degree in Chemical Engineering, albeit by the skin of his teeth and with no help from his constant barhopping. Yet he came out of college with no favorable offers and the outstretched arms of his parents had long since closed after a heated argument two years prior to his graduation.

With no real direction, Hale joined the US Army and attended OCS in Fort Benning. There under the watchful and ever seeing eye of Master Sergeant Parker, Hale was stripped of his sluggish and lazy ways and molded into the the by the book officer's the Army was looking for. From Benning came a three year long stretch oversea's which Hale survived with five firefights to his name and not a single injury except for scrapes and bruises. Now combat tested, Hale was sent to Fort Detrick, Maryland where due to his since unused degree he was selected for the then experimental Unconventional Tactical Deployment Group; a steadily growing force that was being prepared for the near future. For the next few years, Hale trained with the blooming UTDG and studied across the world with many military groups, regular and irregular. By the time WWIII came around, Hale had learned the trials and errors of his field of warfare and was determined to make sure his knowledge would ensure his country's victory.

For the entirety of WWIII Hale and the UTDG were used mainly quell resilient populations that refused to respond to the advice and orders of NATO. This was done mainly through the use of large amounts of nerve gas or in some cases mustard gas; however the effect was the same and whole cities became dead zones almost overnight as those who survived either disappeared into relocation camps or into the wilderness. Then it was also the job of the UTDG to erase all traces of their presence, often through the liberal use of flamethrowers and other incendiary devices. However his most momentous and infamous moment came during the Siege of Tel Aviv where battered US Forces were being pushed back and Hale deployed a weaponized fast killing version of Ebola into the general populace. This then spread to the IDF defenders and slowed down their counterattack, enough for the American forces to retreat as the Israeli's spent critical time and manpower cutting off sections of Tel Aviv and their armed forces. Killing the disease at great cost in life and allowing a greater number of Americans to retreat; although hHale was caught in a burning vehicle and severely wounded during said retreat.

The capture of Hale came after the UTGD retreated into the US's interior while Hale remained in Fort Detrick to destroy classified and hazardous materials; even as Russian Spetsnaz were beating down the doors of the lab. There was still enough left to try him and the unit patch didn't help things either. SO Hale sat locked away, waiting for what would come next.

Character Personality: Is it alright if I let the character form on the fly? I always like responding to the situation as it is instead of whatever I put in apps.

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Accepted.

As a writer, I know it's sometimes better to let characters form as you go, so I can support that.

The Siege of Tel Aviv and the Ebola gassing is very creative. I know a lot of defendants and lawyers are going to try and use supposed gassing incidents against Assad, but this will make it a little harder and more entertaining.

[The United Federation of Terrans]

Character App:

Character Name:Major Richard Hale

Character Nationality: American

Character Appearance: 5'10; A regular frame with an increasingly skinny build due to borderline malnutrition. His black hair is in a sloppy crew cut and his face has a four day old patch of stubble. He has burn marks running down from the back of his jaw down the entire right side of his body. His skin is a pasty white from the long days spent in his cell.

Character Role: Defendant

Character Biography: Born on August-27-1985 in Tampa, Florida; Hale was as normal as any kid could have been. His family lived in the nearby suburbs and his dad had a steady job in the Tampa Bay Port. He never distinguished himself in any way and was in reality part of the crowd; something that he despised, yet never tried to change. Without any real effort he earned solid B's in school and ran enough track in high school to get him a college scholarship. There he earned a degree in Chemical Engineering, albeit by the skin of his teeth and with no help from his constant barhopping. Yet he came out of college with no favorable offers and the outstretched arms of his parents had long since closed after a heated argument two years prior to his graduation.

With no real direction, Hale joined the US Army and attended OCS in Fort Benning. There under the watchful and ever seeing eye of Master Sergeant Parker, Hale was stripped of his sluggish and lazy ways and molded into the the by the book officer's the Army was looking for. From Benning came a three year long stretch oversea's which Hale survived with five firefights to his name and not a single injury except for scrapes and bruises. Now combat tested, Hale was sent to Fort Detrick, Maryland where due to his since unused degree he was selected for the then experimental Unconventional Tactical Deployment Group; a steadily growing force that was being prepared for the near future. For the next few years, Hale trained with the blooming UTDG and studied across the world with many military groups, regular and irregular. By the time WWIII came around, Hale had learned the trials and errors of his field of warfare and was determined to make sure his knowledge would ensure his country's victory.

For the entirety of WWIII Hale and the UTDG were used mainly quell resilient populations that refused to respond to the advice and orders of NATO. This was done mainly through the use of large amounts of nerve gas or in some cases mustard gas; however the effect was the same and whole cities became dead zones almost overnight as those who survived either disappeared into relocation camps or into the wilderness. Then it was also the job of the UTDG to erase all traces of their presence, often through the liberal use of flamethrowers and other incendiary devices. However his most momentous and infamous moment came during the Siege of Tel Aviv where battered US Forces were being pushed back and Hale deployed a weaponized fast killing version of Ebola into the general populace. This then spread to the IDF defenders and slowed down their counterattack, enough for the American forces to retreat as the Israeli's spent critical time and manpower cutting off sections of Tel Aviv and their armed forces. Killing the disease at great cost in life and allowing a greater number of Americans to retreat; although hHale was caught in a burning vehicle and severely wounded during said retreat.

The capture of Hale came after the UTGD retreated into the US's interior while Hale remained in Fort Detrick to destroy classified and hazardous materials; even as Russian Spetsnaz were beating down the doors of the lab. There was still enough left to try him and the unit patch didn't help things either. SO Hale sat locked away, waiting for what would come next.

Character Personality: Is it alright if I let the character form on the fly? I always like responding to the situation as it is instead of whatever I put in apps.

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Accepted.

As a writer, I know it's sometimes better to let characters form as you go, so I can support that.

The Siege of Tel Aviv and the Ebola gassing is very creative. I know a lot of defendants and lawyers are going to try and use supposed gassing incidents against Assad, but this will make it a little harder and more entertaining.

Alright, what come's next?

[Krugeristan]

Accepted.

As a writer, I know it's sometimes better to let characters form as you go, so I can support that.

The Siege of Tel Aviv and the Ebola gassing is very creative. I know a lot of defendants and lawyers are going to try and use supposed gassing incidents against Assad, but this will make it a little harder and more entertaining.

Alright, what come's next?

Read what's been going on in the IC. (The court was dismissed for the day because of riots.) Make a post. Try interacting with one of the others to get a foothold.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Krug, did you invite my guy to lunch?

[Krugeristan]

Krug, did you invite my guy to lunch?

No. Abdullah's just approaching you, to see how you react to him.

[The United Holy German Reich]

Norman isn't to big on respect or rules, but only when it applies to him. He is egocentric

[Krugeristan]

Norman isn't to big on respect or rules, but only when it applies to him. He is egocentric

Well, then . . .

Hopefully Abdullah doesn't have to pop him in the jaw.

Unless Norman wants to fight Assad outside the courtroom.

[The United Holy German Reich]

Norman isn't to big on respect or rules, but only when it applies to him. He is egocentric

Well, then . . .

Hopefully Abdullah doesn't have to pop him in the jaw.

Unless Norman wants to fight Assad outside the courtroom.

Norman is not a violent man, but had fought In the past and will fight again,

[Krugeristan]

Well, then . . .

Hopefully Abdullah doesn't have to pop him in the jaw.

Unless Norman wants to fight Assad outside the courtroom.

Norman is not a violent man, but had fought In the past and will fight again,

Eh, I can see that.

You don't exactly want to take both Assad and Abdullah at the same time, though.

[The United Holy German Reich]

Norman is not a violent man, but had fought In the past and will fight again,

Eh, I can see that.

You don't exactly want to take both Assad and Abdullah at the same time, though.

Assad will just throw one punch and run away

[Krugeristan]

Eh, I can see that.

You don't exactly want to take both Assad and Abdullah at the same time, though.

Assad will just throw one punch and run away

Assad: *wimpy throw* Abdullah, he's after me!
Abdullah: Are you serious?
Assad: No, I want you to fight him.
Abdullah: How the fuck are we . . . never mind.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Norman isn't to big on respect or rules, but only when it applies to him. He is egocentric

...

Good lawyer material, that... 'Isn't big on rules'

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

Character App:

Character Name: Walther Klemm

Character Nationality: German

Character Appearance:

Character Role: Lawyer

Character Biography:
Walther Klemm, born in 1962 in Munich, Germany, grew up living a normal life. His father and mother were both successful lawyers, as was his grandfather, and he is considered to come from a line of lawyers. After racing through most of his education with flying colors, Klemm moved on to Heidelburg University, where he graduated with habilitation in law. He started working at his parent's law firm, and took over the business by 2002 when they both retired. He expanded the business from Munich to several firms across South-Eastern Germany. He continued in this way for many years, building a huge fortune, until WW3 broke out.

Klemm was too old to join the armed forces, and instead patriotically supported his country on the home front, sponsoring many German politicians who advocated continued warfare. He was accused of using these politicians as his puppets, but vehemently denied these allegations. Now Klemm has been hired to represent Germany- possibly because of those political connections- in the war trials.
(Not sure what side Germany was on, so...)

Character Personality: Klemm can be very secretive and sometimes untrustworthy, but also a very powerful ally. He likes to surround himself with "yes men", and dislikes those who confront him or challenge him. He is considered an excellent lawyer. However, he fears that his web of political corruption will be discovered.
Sorry if this application was rushed.

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