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Postby The United Holy German Reich » Mon May 30, 2016 9:24 am

The United Holy German Reich wrote:Once I'm done my lunch I am going to make the opening post for Norman.

I already have a plan for defending the criminals.

Johnnie Cochran
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon May 30, 2016 9:26 am

The United Holy German Reich wrote:
The United Holy German Reich wrote:Once I'm done my lunch I am going to make the opening post for Norman.

I already have a plan for defending the criminals.

Johnnie Cochran

We should discuss...
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Postby Krugeristan » Mon May 30, 2016 9:30 am

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
The United Holy German Reich wrote:I already have a plan for defending the criminals.

Johnnie Cochran

We should discuss...


Is there anything that should be changed in the first post in the IC?
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Postby The United Holy German Reich » Mon May 30, 2016 9:41 am

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
The United Holy German Reich wrote:I already have a plan for defending the criminals.

Johnnie Cochran

We should discuss...

Agreed.
"A reigning party never censures itself, and the people have been tutored to vote under two senseless standards, gaudily painted over with the two words 'Federalist and Republican,' repeated, and repeated, without having any meaning, or conveying any information." - John Taylor

"What an impudent farce it is for the arrogant leader of a party to prate about equality, to call himself a democrat, the friend of that liberty which will never fall till ambitious men like himself make themselves, by arts always stale, yet always formidable, stronger than the laws." - Fisher Ames

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon May 30, 2016 9:49 am

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Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:We should discuss...


Is there anything that should be changed in the first post in the IC?

I don't think so. Well, in reality, the crimes they are accused of would fall into a few different categories for a few different courts, but like the Yugoslavia Tribunal, you can mix them all together into one big accusation. However, such an international body would not be able to demand the death penalty, especially since Russia is bound by the European Convention for Human Rights, which forbids the use of the death penalty. So, yeah, no, the post makes perfect sense, other than the death penalty bit.


The United Holy German Reich wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:We should discuss...

Agreed.

So, what are we going to do?
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Postby Krugeristan » Mon May 30, 2016 9:58 am

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Krugeristan wrote:
Is there anything that should be changed in the first post in the IC?

I don't think so. Well, in reality, the crimes they are accused of would fall into a few different categories for a few different courts, but like the Yugoslavia Tribunal, you can mix them all together into one big accusation. However, such an international body would not be able to demand the death penalty, especially since Russia is bound by the European Convention for Human Rights, which forbids the use of the death penalty. So, yeah, no, the post makes perfect sense, other than the death penalty bit.


The United Holy German Reich wrote:Agreed.

So, what are we going to do?


What would have to happen in order for the death penalty to be allowed, especially since Syria, Gaddafi's kin, Egypt, and most of the Arab countries are demanding the accused be put to death if found guilty?
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Postby The United Holy German Reich » Mon May 30, 2016 10:04 am

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Krugeristan wrote:
Is there anything that should be changed in the first post in the IC?

I don't think so. Well, in reality, the crimes they are accused of would fall into a few different categories for a few different courts, but like the Yugoslavia Tribunal, you can mix them all together into one big accusation. However, such an international body would not be able to demand the death penalty, especially since Russia is bound by the European Convention for Human Rights, which forbids the use of the death penalty. So, yeah, no, the post makes perfect sense, other than the death penalty bit.


The United Holy German Reich wrote:Agreed.

So, what are we going to do?

We need to show that the judges that this is a show trial and that it is hypocritical for Russia to makes these accusations since they have committed the same crimes.
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Postby Krugeristan » Mon May 30, 2016 10:08 am

The United Holy German Reich wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:I don't think so. Well, in reality, the crimes they are accused of would fall into a few different categories for a few different courts, but like the Yugoslavia Tribunal, you can mix them all together into one big accusation. However, such an international body would not be able to demand the death penalty, especially since Russia is bound by the European Convention for Human Rights, which forbids the use of the death penalty. So, yeah, no, the post makes perfect sense, other than the death penalty bit.



So, what are we going to do?

We need to show that the judges that this is a show trial and that it is hypocritical for Russia to makes these accusations since they have committed the same crimes.


Even if you prove Russia wrong, you'd have to dig up dirt on Syria and Jordan in order to win the whole thing.
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Postby The United Holy German Reich » Mon May 30, 2016 11:09 am

Krugeristan wrote:
The United Holy German Reich wrote:We need to show that the judges that this is a show trial and that it is hypocritical for Russia to makes these accusations since they have committed the same crimes.


Even if you prove Russia wrong, you'd have to dig up dirt on Syria and Jordan in order to win the whole thing.

That'd be the easy part.
Krugeristan wrote:
The United Holy German Reich wrote:We need to show that the judges that this is a show trial and that it is hypocritical for Russia to makes these accusations since they have committed the same crimes.


Even if you prove Russia wrong, you'd have to dig up dirt on Syria and Jordan in order to win the whole thing.

That'd be the easy part.
"A reigning party never censures itself, and the people have been tutored to vote under two senseless standards, gaudily painted over with the two words 'Federalist and Republican,' repeated, and repeated, without having any meaning, or conveying any information." - John Taylor

"What an impudent farce it is for the arrogant leader of a party to prate about equality, to call himself a democrat, the friend of that liberty which will never fall till ambitious men like himself make themselves, by arts always stale, yet always formidable, stronger than the laws." - Fisher Ames

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Postby Krugeristan » Mon May 30, 2016 11:11 am

The United Holy German Reich wrote:
Krugeristan wrote:
Even if you prove Russia wrong, you'd have to dig up dirt on Syria and Jordan in order to win the whole thing.

That'd be the easy part.
Krugeristan wrote:
Even if you prove Russia wrong, you'd have to dig up dirt on Syria and Jordan in order to win the whole thing.

That'd be the easy part.


How?
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Postby The United Holy German Reich » Mon May 30, 2016 11:12 am

So I'm going to post now
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"What an impudent farce it is for the arrogant leader of a party to prate about equality, to call himself a democrat, the friend of that liberty which will never fall till ambitious men like himself make themselves, by arts always stale, yet always formidable, stronger than the laws." - Fisher Ames

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Postby The United Holy German Reich » Mon May 30, 2016 11:12 am

Krugeristan wrote:
The United Holy German Reich wrote:That'd be the easy part.
That'd be the easy part.


How?

No spoilers.
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"What an impudent farce it is for the arrogant leader of a party to prate about equality, to call himself a democrat, the friend of that liberty which will never fall till ambitious men like himself make themselves, by arts always stale, yet always formidable, stronger than the laws." - Fisher Ames

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Postby The United Holy German Reich » Mon May 30, 2016 1:02 pm

I just realized it's going to be hard controlling Norman and Putin...
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"What an impudent farce it is for the arrogant leader of a party to prate about equality, to call himself a democrat, the friend of that liberty which will never fall till ambitious men like himself make themselves, by arts always stale, yet always formidable, stronger than the laws." - Fisher Ames

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Postby Krugeristan » Mon May 30, 2016 1:05 pm

The United Holy German Reich wrote:I just realized it's going to be hard controlling Norman and Putin...


Abdullah just about fried Norman. Let's see what Norman does next. Hopefully he doesn't chop his balls off in front of everyone.
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Postby The United Holy German Reich » Mon May 30, 2016 1:06 pm

Krugeristan wrote:
The United Holy German Reich wrote:I just realized it's going to be hard controlling Norman and Putin...


Abdullah just about fried Norman. Let's see what Norman does next. Hopefully he doesn't chop his balls off in front of everyone.

I'm about to nuke Assad.
"A reigning party never censures itself, and the people have been tutored to vote under two senseless standards, gaudily painted over with the two words 'Federalist and Republican,' repeated, and repeated, without having any meaning, or conveying any information." - John Taylor

"What an impudent farce it is for the arrogant leader of a party to prate about equality, to call himself a democrat, the friend of that liberty which will never fall till ambitious men like himself make themselves, by arts always stale, yet always formidable, stronger than the laws." - Fisher Ames

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Postby The United Holy German Reich » Mon May 30, 2016 1:19 pm

I'm assuming the press is allowed inside the court room?
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"What an impudent farce it is for the arrogant leader of a party to prate about equality, to call himself a democrat, the friend of that liberty which will never fall till ambitious men like himself make themselves, by arts always stale, yet always formidable, stronger than the laws." - Fisher Ames

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Postby Krugeristan » Mon May 30, 2016 1:27 pm

The United Holy German Reich wrote:I'm assuming the press is allowed inside the court room?


Yes, but what they published is monitored carefully so no one starts lying to the outside world.
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Postby The United Holy German Reich » Mon May 30, 2016 1:29 pm

Krugeristan wrote:
The United Holy German Reich wrote:I'm assuming the press is allowed inside the court room?


Yes, but what they published is monitored carefully so no one starts lying to the outside world.

So could I rp as a news agency in the US?
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"What an impudent farce it is for the arrogant leader of a party to prate about equality, to call himself a democrat, the friend of that liberty which will never fall till ambitious men like himself make themselves, by arts always stale, yet always formidable, stronger than the laws." - Fisher Ames

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Postby Krugeristan » Mon May 30, 2016 1:33 pm

The United Holy German Reich wrote:
Krugeristan wrote:
Yes, but what they published is monitored carefully so no one starts lying to the outside world.

So could I rp as a news agency in the US?


As long as your character isn't some airheaded blonde, yes.
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Postby The United Holy German Reich » Mon May 30, 2016 1:37 pm

Krugeristan wrote:
The United Holy German Reich wrote:So could I rp as a news agency in the US?


As long as your character isn't some airheaded blonde, yes.

:o
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"What an impudent farce it is for the arrogant leader of a party to prate about equality, to call himself a democrat, the friend of that liberty which will never fall till ambitious men like himself make themselves, by arts always stale, yet always formidable, stronger than the laws." - Fisher Ames

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Postby Krugeristan » Mon May 30, 2016 1:45 pm

The United Holy German Reich wrote:
Krugeristan wrote:
As long as your character isn't some airheaded blonde, yes.

:o


Abdullah at this point: Image

Assad watching this: Image
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Postby The United Holy German Reich » Mon May 30, 2016 1:55 pm

Krugeristan wrote:
The United Holy German Reich wrote: :o


Abdullah at this point: Image

Assad watching this: Image

Fight
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"What an impudent farce it is for the arrogant leader of a party to prate about equality, to call himself a democrat, the friend of that liberty which will never fall till ambitious men like himself make themselves, by arts always stale, yet always formidable, stronger than the laws." - Fisher Ames

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Postby Krugeristan » Mon May 30, 2016 1:56 pm

The United Holy German Reich wrote:
Krugeristan wrote:
Abdullah at this point: Image

Assad watching this: Image

Fight


Fight between whom?
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon May 30, 2016 1:57 pm

The United Holy German Reich wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:I don't think so. Well, in reality, the crimes they are accused of would fall into a few different categories for a few different courts, but like the Yugoslavia Tribunal, you can mix them all together into one big accusation. However, such an international body would not be able to demand the death penalty, especially since Russia is bound by the European Convention for Human Rights, which forbids the use of the death penalty. So, yeah, no, the post makes perfect sense, other than the death penalty bit.



So, what are we going to do?

We need to show that the judges that this is a show trial and that it is hypocritical for Russia to makes these accusations since they have committed the same crimes.

Hmmm, that won't fly. Even hypocrites can sue in a court of law. I think we'll need to show that international law cannot govern the internal affairs of nations, and that the defendants were acting in their national interest. So, for instance, prove that the wars were justified and that the US didn't even try to kill Assad or Khadaffi. Then, we can move that Obama is a head of state, protected under international law from international prosecution.
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Postby Krugeristan » Mon May 30, 2016 1:58 pm

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
The United Holy German Reich wrote:We need to show that the judges that this is a show trial and that it is hypocritical for Russia to makes these accusations since they have committed the same crimes.

Hmmm, that won't fly. Even hypocrites can sue in a court of law. I think we'll need to show that international law cannot govern the internal affairs of nations, and that the defendants were acting in their national interest. So, for instance, prove that the wars were justified and that the US didn't even try to kill Assad or Khadaffi. Then, we can move that Obama is a head of state, protected under international law from international prosecution.


Ermergerd, Gaddafi's name. How many ways are there to spell it?!
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This 10,000 [insert random thing here] genocide thing is a meme, right?

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