THE ORDER OF THE STAG | OOC | OPEN | FANTASY-MEDIEVAL |

[Ontorisa]

No RP Examples?

Also what do you mean by his/her gender?

Is a guy, with guy parts, dresses like a woman and goes by woman name.
And I didn't know what you meant by RP examples

Examples of your RPing skills i.e. previous RPs here on Nationstates.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Is a guy, with guy parts, dresses like a woman and goes by woman name.
And I didn't know what you meant by RP examples

Examples of your RPing skills i.e. previous RPs here on Nationstates.

Oh I don't reslly have any examples, sorry. I've rped on forums before just, nothing I can really show

[Ontorisa]

Examples of your RPing skills i.e. previous RPs here on Nationstates.

Oh I don't reslly have any examples, sorry. I've rped on forums before just, nothing I can really show

Then you'd probably have to give me a sample of your skills then. Write something up.

[Beiarusia]

Then you'd probably have to give me a sample of your skills then. Write something up.

I usually have people without RP Examples go all out in the biography. Also, given the time period, I can't see a cross-dresser doing well should he be discovered, though it is funny that one character is a girl pretending to be a guy. On another note how prominent would a female be in the Order? Do they treat them like the men because they need bodies or are they regulated to background roles for the most part?

[Ontorisa]

Also, given the time period, I can't see a cross-dresser doing well should he be discovered, though it is funny that one character is a girl pretending to be a guy.

Yeah, I'm super iffy about the whole crossdressing thing. Like it works in noble courts and stuff, but in the field? Like this? Very unlikely, especially if it's a guy-to-girl.

On another note how prominent would a female be in the Order? Do they treat them like the men because they need bodies or are they regulated to background roles for the most part?

They're still regulated and so forth, but only predominant ones are given the nod to be soldiers.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Oh I don't reslly have any examples, sorry. I've rped on forums before just, nothing I can really show

Then you'd probably have to give me a sample of your skills then. Write something up.

Updated my app

[Internationalist Bastard]

Also, given the time period, I can't see a cross-dresser doing well should he be discovered, though it is funny that one character is a girl pretending to be a guy.

Yeah, I'm super iffy about the whole crossdressing thing. Like it works in noble courts and stuff, but in the field? Like this? Very unlikely, especially if it's a guy-to-girl.

On another note how prominent would a female be in the Order? Do they treat them like the men because they need bodies or are they regulated to background roles for the most part?

They're still regulated and so forth, but only predominant ones are given the nod to be soldiers.

I thought it'd be fun to play a charecter who does something seen as horrible and sinful, but people kind of grumble and accept it because she could kick your ass

[Aqizithiuda]

Also, given the time period, I can't see a cross-dresser doing well should he be discovered, though it is funny that one character is a girl pretending to be a guy.

Yeah, I'm super iffy about the whole crossdressing thing. Like it works in noble courts and stuff, but in the field? Like this? Very unlikely, especially if it's a guy-to-girl.

It's worked pretty well in the past. Catalina de Erauso spent almost twenty years as a man, Christian Davies eleven, Ulrika Eleonora Stålhammar ten, Margareta Elisabeth Roos eight years followed by three as a butler, Phoebe Hessel at least ten, and Nadezhda Durova lasted nine years before retiring as an officer.

While not a man disguised as a woman fighting, Chevalier d'Eon was widely thought to be a woman disguised as a man, and he later admitted to being a woman. Then, when she died 33 years later, it was discovered that she had been biologically male the entire time.

In general, those women who were discovered to be cross dressing were discovered as a result of wounds/sickness or after admitting to it.

[Beiarusia]

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It's not-so-much the woman pretending to be a male thing as there have been numerous examples of that happening throughout history, but while I'm not saying its impossible it just seems that a man pretending to be a woman would have a lot harder time hiding such a thing, especially if said woman is supposed to be a soldier of sorts to begin with. If one can get a valid reasoning behind it then I'm all for it, but I feel that it needs to be a very good explanation, and even then (and don't quote me on this) I feel that there would be stiff penalties if one were to be caught no matter the gender (though I see the Order as being more lenient in that regard).

[Aqizithiuda]

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It's not-so-much the woman pretending to be a male thing as there have been numerous examples of that happening throughout history, but while I'm not saying its impossible it just seems that a man pretending to be a woman would have a lot harder time hiding such a thing, especially if said woman is supposed to be a soldier of sorts to begin with. If one can get a valid reasoning behind it then I'm all for it, but I feel that it needs to be a very good explanation, and even then (and don't quote me on this) I feel that there would be stiff penalties if one were to be caught no matter the gender (though I see the Order as being more lenient in that regard).

Being a man, maybe I'm missing something, but what exactly about a woman with a biologically male body acting according to her sex is more difficult than a woman pretending to be a man?

[Beiarusia]

Being a man, maybe I'm missing something, but what exactly about a woman with a biologically male body acting according to her sex is more difficult than a woman pretending to be a man?

Given the time period it just seems that it would be easier for a woman to pass for a man than it would be for a man to pass for a woman, in most cases. Simple biology wouldn't help if you just so happened to be a masculine sort of man as opposed to someone with a more effeminate appearance. Plus there's always the chance of exposure in a society that wouldn't be as accepting as we are today.

[Aqizithiuda]

Being a man, maybe I'm missing something, but what exactly about a woman with a biologically male body acting according to her sex is more difficult than a woman pretending to be a man?

Given the time period it just seems that it would be easier for a woman to pass for a man than it would be for a man to pass for a woman, in most cases. Simple biology wouldn't help if you just so happened to be a masculine sort of man as opposed to someone with a more effeminate appearance. Plus there's always the chance of exposure in a society that wouldn't be as accepting as we are today.

Again, I'm not so sure why it would be more difficult. As a woman, she would be afforded much more privacy, or at least potential privacy than a woman pretending to be a man, which would only serve to improve her chances of disguise.

As to masculine characteristics, I don't think they would be all that obvious. The women who had the most successful careers as men tended to have masculine traits and, since there would be no reason to disguise themselves in the Order, there is probably already a high proportion of masculine looking women among the female lancers and rangers.

[Internationalist Bastard]

I'll just not participate. I just wanted a fun character, I didn't want to derail everything. I'm sorry

[SaintB]

I'll just not participate. I just wanted a fun character, I didn't want to derail everything. I'm sorry

Stick to your guns man, you aren't derailing anything by starting a conversation about 15th century transsexuals. What Onti want's is some proof that you can handle a character like that. Add some more flavor to the biography and jazz up your RP example.

[Ontorisa]

I'll just not participate. I just wanted a fun character, I didn't want to derail everything. I'm sorry

Stay with your idea bud. It's an unorthodox, but interesting idea that you have rolling here. I mean, it didn't really happen in history, but sure, I don't mind.

[Sasutary Island]

The Order of the Stag Application

Basics

Name: Kenneth Packard
Age: 29
Gender: Male
Appearance: Well-built, 1.75 metres tall, of average girth. Kenneth's skin is light, his face and arms tanned slightly. Kenneth's face is akin to Petyr Baelish, though he only sports a stubble and his sand-coloured hair is combed over to the left. There is a scar running across his neck where an arrow had been lodged from years before.
Height: 175 cm
Weight: 72 kilograms

Military Information

Role: Ranger
Specialization: Heavy Swordsman/Guard
Equipment: Family Greatsword "Valiance" (141 cm, 3.3 kg), Warhammer (1.1 kg), Black Brigandine over Brown Tunic with Black Cape, Brown Leather Boots, sometimes wears a Flat-topped Helmet with an Aventail.
Any Past Military Experiences: Has served with the Order for the past 11 years of his life.

Miscellaneous

Personality: Kenneth is a Gregarious person, who is both Charitable and Just by nature. Since young, his good nature has brought him many friends and is often the 'strong man' in the group. Being a steaming social animal, Kenneth still enjoys his peace and quiet and will often distance himself from company. From young Kenneth has been said to possess a towering intellect, good in Language, History and Mathematics. Even his tutors praised him for his thrift and swindling skills at the market.

Kenneth however is a proud person, and would often not listen to the advice of others.
Strengths: A Kind, Just, Charitable person; is intellectually superior to most. Has a decent command on swordfighting and infantry tactics thanks to drilling from his father.
Weaknesses: Is proud of his lineage and though intelligent, he often dismisses useful advice thanks to his large ego. Kenneth is also highly distrusting towards figures of authority.
Fears: Kenneth lives in almost constant fear of being killed while serving in the Order. He has also heard news that his younger brother has hired sellswords to hunt Kenneth down and kill him.
Ambitions: Become Commander, reclaim his lost inheritance from his younger brother.

Biography Kenneth was the second son of House Packard, a wealthy patrician family with investments throughout the Land. With a large manor on the outskirts of Prostlilia, the Packards were a well-off bunch, and any problems they encountered, be it thugs or troublesome peasants, could be solved with Gold. Kenneth's older brother, Karl, was murdered when he was 13, pushed off a balcony from the top of the family manor; though there was no damnable evidence linking it to the third and youngest son, William, Kenneth remained largely suspicious of his little brother for the rest of his teenage years. His father, Sir Bruce, would not hear of the guilt of his son; he held a great fondness towards his sons, William especially.

Bruce would often be overseas on business trips, so Kenneth had the company of the court and servants, who noted Kenneth's skill with words and numbers. The Priest would tutor Kenneth in the ways of governance, to which he paid little attention, more interested in spending his time with the debutantes at the nearby market square. Attending a school 2 hours away from the Manor, he mingled with other children of both rich and poor backgrounds, baffling them with complicated speech and foreign tongues which often attracted the envy of other boys. When Kenneth was 14, Bruce gave Kenneth a sword he had got while on his travels. Though slightly blunt and chipped, Bruce got to work teaching Kenneth the techniques of melee combat. Spending a great deal on a library of sword and military manuals, he made Kenneth spend hours each day memorising the compendiums and practicing his swings on straw-stuffed dummies. In the heat of the summer sun, Kenneth came home soaking wet from the sword practice, bringing with him his friends who had tagged along for sword practice. Being heir to the Packard's estate and wealth, Kenneth was handed the family's Greatsword at the age of 16. It was an ornate piece, the handguard decorated with Gold and Silver. Lions, dragons and eagles carefully carved into beautiful mosaics on the blade itself. For someone as young as Kenneth the magnificent blade was simply too heavy, but he accepted the gift with open arms, taking time each night to oil it and kept it on his mantlepiece in his room.

A year later, Kenneth volunteered to join the Order of the Stag, pursuaded by his mother Elena (who was having an incestuous relationship with William) to sign on for the Order, promising that all would be fine at the Manor and that the inheritance was safe. What he didn't know was that, upon joining the Order, William's claim to the Packard wealth would be supported by his mother, and Kenneth would be removed from the picture forever. Bruce returned from a business trip later that week, not knowing Kenneth had left; William crushed his father with a hammer the night he returned. A council convened on the issue of the Packard inheritance; without Kenneth there to stake his claim, all Packard lands went to the conniving brother. Kenneth was nearly at the wall when a group of hired bandits ambushed him in the woods. Dismounted when his horse was startled and bolted away, Kenneth picked up the family's greatsword from the floor and fended off the bandits as best he could. The moon-light from a cloudless night made the sword glint like a mirror. Swinging wildly like a cornered lion, he grew ever weaker with each swing, before one of them closed in to finish the job. With an audible gasp and straining his arms, he lifted the longsword over his shoulders and struck down on his opponent, cleaving him down the centre with a great big cut from the right shoulder down to the pelvis. The crimson blood of the bandit soaked his shirt.

By this time Kenneth was exhausted, and gave more half-arsed swings to keep the bandits away. Slowly closing in once more on the man, one of the assassins managed to slash Kenneth's right calf, bringing him down to his knees. As another bandit came in to deliver the final blow with a mace, Kenneth picked up the greatsword and in one great motion slashed upwards, slicing the man's left leg straight off; writhing in pain the man rolled on the floor clutching his leg before dying from the shock. With this final display of defiance, Kenneth scared the assassins away, later reporting to William that Kenneth had managed to get away from their grasp. Kenneth kept the man's mace as his own, and found his mount near a stream nearby. By morning the next day he had arrived at the wall and signed himself on for the Order of the Stag, if only it meant reprieve from his brother's assassins. With his greatsword, Kenneth had been lucky to have been able to bring along a set of armour that he owned with him for the journey to the Wall. Leaving behind all he loved and stood to inherit, however, would continue to haunt him in his sleep for the next few months.

He gave great work to the Order, serving as sentry and going out on expeditions with his new mates into the wilderness. By 24, Kenneth had proved his mettle and was promoted to Lancer, and among his new duties, he coached the men on swordfighting techniques. For hours each day he's hone his skills while sparing with others, preferring the great power and shock of a two-handed sword over the speed of a falchion or reach of a pike. At the age of 26, while defending the wall against a small party of Orcs, Kenneth was wounded by an arrow; the arrow had pierced his chainmail coif and was lodged in his windpipe. Almost choking on his own blood, the surgeon managed to dislodge the arrow and stop the bleeding. By that time, however, Kenneth had lost so much blood he was barely awake. Like the mace, Kenneth kept the arrowhead as well, as a morbid momento to a past he'd rather forget. After the incident, as an acknowledgement of his efforts with the Order of the Stag and his sacrifices, he was promoted to Ranger.
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[Ontorisa]

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Accepted. Please post your application to the Archive Thread


Also, with Sasutary Island's acceptance, we've reached our Ranger limit.

[SaintB]

Who am I missing? I only count three Rangers.

[Ontorisa]

Who am I missing? I only count three Rangers.

The limit is 3 rangers.

[Elerian]

No invite?

*shakes head*

Tsk tsk tsk

[SaintB]

Who am I missing? I only count three Rangers.

The limit is 3 rangers.

I thought it was 5.

[Ontorisa]

No invite?

*shakes head*

Tsk tsk tsk

I wasn't sure if you wanted to <3

The limit is 3 rangers.

I thought it was 5.

I changed it because I just realized how OP rangers are. Like they're ridiculously OP.

[SaintB]

No invite?

*shakes head*

Tsk tsk tsk

I wasn't sure if you wanted to <3

I thought it was 5.

I changed it because I just realized how OP rangers are. Like they're ridiculously OP.

I just thought rangers were like in the Blackwatch. They go into the wilderness for scouting and raids and stuff.

[Ontorisa]

I changed it because I just realized how OP rangers are. Like they're ridiculously OP.

I just thought rangers were like in the Blackwatch. They go into the wilderness for scouting and raids and stuff.

No, it's an illustrious and highly toted position in the Order. It means you're the best of the best and are good at pretty much everything.

[House of Judah]

No invite?

*shakes head*

Tsk tsk tsk

I wasn't sure if you wanted to <3

I thought it was 5.

I changed it because I just realized how OP rangers are. Like they're ridiculously OP.

What if an old friend showed up with a really cool ap? Like, an old friend (who used a different name then) who produced a bastard whoremonger in the House of Syanlins or a smart-ass hacking special ops soldier for Icebreaker?