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Postby Der Kaiser Mikey III » Sun Mar 06, 2016 7:23 pm

Conquest: Rise of Kings


IC: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=370537&p=27950385#p27950385

Map of Derria


http://i.imgur.com/4z6hqEv.jpg
Distance Wise Think:
put Stockholm at the northern end of 3 and Tunis on the southern end of 6.
Reykjavik would then be the most northern top part of 1.
Copenhagen/Edinburgh would be north end of 2.
London would be at the Solace River mouth, just north of 5,
Rome would be at the Bann River mouth, in the south of 5.





Introduction


Derria is an ancient land with histories that go back thousands of years. This is before the land was united under one King, this is the time of the Conquest, when Derria was still a land of opportunity and new beginnings.

Having been thrown from their seat of power across the Alesian sea, the rulers of the Dmesian Empire have since relocated themselves to their holdings in the West, and so their eyes to the rest of Derria. Young, rash Emperor Dius Roche-Yves of House D'Altieri, guided by his formidable Vassal Mordred of House Thorne, Marquis of Imperial Sturmingia, has begun an effort to prepare for war, moving armies further South and encroaching into the lands of the Kingdom of Vorzov, Sturmingian Lord Mordred's rivals to the West. Though the Northeast is dominated by the Dmesian Imperial Fleet and legions, the South is an open land of opportunity, one that prior to Dmesian colonization and subjugation Sturmingia had neglected to explore. This is an era of expansion, and with land ripe for the taking Derria is an opportunity bestowed by the Gods for any strong enough to seize their destiny.


This RP is like ASOIAF in that you will be controlling a noble house and its members in the realm of Derria. The setting is medieval in a made up world created by the players. Politics, intrigue, diplomacy, war and romance are major themes of the RP. There are Royal Houses, followed by Great Houses and lesser houses. I also mention that like in GoT and this being a low fantasy RP magic does exist but is extremely uncommon and many don't believe in it. We probably won't be utilizing magic.

To determine climate, North is colder and south is hotter. If you look at the map, Derria is the center continent where this RP is centered around. It is Europe/Westeros like. Houses you make should be predominantly European/Westeros like. In the East you have the Dellitan City States which are like the Italian City States and the Free Cities in ASOIAF. They are big trading partners with Derria it won't really be explored. In the Northeast you have the Dmesian Empire, formerly also encompassing the Dellitan territories as well as Realm 7. They are a Merovingian type Dynasty with Roman like historical roots and influence. To the west you have Shahronistan, a Persian like civilization, and the setting of great religious, trade influenced tension that will eventually result in a Paragonian Crusade. The far south of the Derrian continent is a mysterious, swampy wetlands and is populated with a people with a completely different culture. They are nomadic tribes which Derrians consider barbarian and uncivilized. Kind of like the Wildlings in ASOIAF but in the swamp. These tribes are prone to raiding along the southern border of Derria. The Faith of the Paragon is the Religion of the Land, from Vorzov and Dmesius to the Deletion territories, with Sturmingia and Shahronistan being the only exceptions and having respectively different pagan systems known commonly as Spirit Worship. The Imperium of Dmesius is the only place where peace has been maintained without religious uprisings.




Before you apply you should know this is not a typical RP. It's more a joint story telling effort. All significant events such as who wins a battle are planned out by the players and what happens is decided on the basis of what is best for the story. You may not try to "pull a fast one" on other players to get the upper hand. We also work on a fluid timeline. There is a general "present" but players are allowed to do flashback posts. Finally, this is a heavy character RP. You would control multiple characters that you develop. Exploring your character's thoughts, feelings, fears and motivations is a requirement. If any of these isn't your thing then don't apply.

King: Ruler of a Kingdom, beholden to none or in rare instances an Emperor or High King
Lord: Head of a Great House, owes fealty to the King. Owns large region.
Earl, Count, Baron: Head of a lesser house, must be a vassal to a Great House. All are held equally in ranking but Earls hold more land/wealth than Counts, and Counts more than Barons. Same goes for military sizes. Barons do not have castles.
Knight: May be a hedge knight, a knight to a Baron, Count, or Lord. Owns at most a manor or keep. May have a small company of men at arms.




(player, house name, position, head of house)
Der Kaiser Mikey III, Altieri, Royal House of the Empire, Emperor Dius XVI
Thorne, Imperial Marquis of Sturmingia, Lord Mordred Thorne
Eridanus 3, Sviterk, Kings of Svitjod (7), King Damian Julian Sviterk
Thallein, Ruthann, Lords of Thalia, Earl Banastre Ruthven
Taganian Unfied States, Payne, Imperial Viceroy's of Payne Warden (2), Lord Jordan Payne
Kaledoria, Trönde, Lords of Varangia, Leif Trönde
Evenia, Starforge, Lords of Starfall, Lord Caius Starforge
Zaporizhian Host, Ciliensis, Kings of The Odeniant (3), Grand Prince Aquilaine VI Johne Ciliens
Dalria, Clan Torolf, High Chief of Myre (6), Kain "The Bear" Torolf
The Peoples East Africa, Tauron, Kings of The Roughlands (5), King Barrios Tauron
Trazentiocheia, Jyvaster, Earls of Gnolvarsen, Lord Valras Jyvaster
Zoblus, Artabanes, Kings of Myrrh (4), Regent Illaphos Faenymion


The main religion of Derria is the Church of the Paragon. Whoever takes the High Priest position can makeup whatever the hell this is as they go. Though the Church does not have as much power like it did in medieval Europe, and is corrupt and run locally. This can be a faction, and whomsoever plays them shall have to unify them before starting large scale conflict, though as m,mentioned eventually I want to see a crusade. The old religion is just dubbed "Spirit Worship" and is a minority religion with parallels to paganism. I'll let one great house aside from Thorne and their region take this religion kinda like the Starks if they want. But its up to you to make up whatever the hell it is. Just add if you want to do so in notes on your app. Many lesser houses can take this religion too, but you have to be vassal to the Great House that dubs it as their religion, or keep it a secret that may be used against you.


1. General RP Etiquette
2. Stick to the medieval/GoT theme
3. If you are a great house remember that your armies are feudal armies. Look up what that means.
4. No gunpowder. No Greek Fire. No weapons, equipment, devices or technology that did not exist in RL medieval times.
5. The religion of the land is the Church of the Paragon or "Spirit Worship" should you choose that. Only one great house though.
6. Army sizes when we RP are as follows: 50,000-70,000 For Kingdoms including Vassals, 25,000 max for each Great House including their vassals, Earls-5000, Counts-2000, Barons-500, Landed Knights-100. Remember these are all maximums
7. Magic is uncommon in this world but I'll allow you to do something magical if you clear it with me first.
8. While this RP has a Game of Thrones feel, reading GoT or watching the show is not a requirement for this RP. Though I highly encourage it because both the show and books are awesome!
10. This is more of a character RP despite your control of factions.
11. Once you are accepted, have at least 3-5 strong posts in the IC and are active in the RP you may advertise any RP you are running in this OOC.
12. Adding any major family members, other than what is stated in your app, after your first IC post requires approval from me. You may add new characters, even major ones without approval.
13. DO NOT APPLY UNLESS YOU SERIOUSLY PLAN TO PARTICIPATE THE WHOLE WAY THROUGH. THIS RP HAS BEEN RUNNING FOR OVER A YEAR NOW AND WE NEED DEDICATED RPERS. Also, don't sit around waiting for things to happen. I'll try and guide the RP but it is up to you to be proactive in creating an interesting storyline for your house and characters.


Those applying to be Great Houses (Lords):

If you look at the map, you must choose a territory on the map marked by numbers (VASSALS: Choose one corresponding with your rank within a numbered territory). There are numbers 1 through 7.As of right now, all Realms have been claimed. ONLY VASSAL POSITIONS AVAILABLE


Application: Don't worry about describing your military yet. There's another app for that. If you do not create a great house you must be a vassal to one of the existing great houses or wait until I accept other great house applicants. Please delete everything in parenthesis.

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1478 (leave this in your app)
[b]NS Nation Name:[/b]
[b]Name of House:[/b]
[b]Banner of House (describe or post a picture)[/b]
[b]Description of House:[/b]
[b]If not mentioned, brief description of House's relationship and feelings towards The Empire:[/b]
[b]Head of House (name, age, and sex):[/b]
[b]Nobility Ranking (King, Lord, Earl, Count, Baron, Knight): [/b]
[b]If not a King who are you a vassal to (wait for a few Kingdom/ Great House apps before you answer):[/b]
[b]Brief Description of Head of House (history, personality, appearance): [/b]
[b]Relevant House Members (names, age, sex, and brief description):[/b]
[b]Name of the Land your house rules over:[/b]
[b]Land Claim if a Kingdom(1-6), or Great House (General area of specific province):[/b]
[b]Geography (Climate must match your position on the map. North is colder, south is hotter):[/b]
[b]RP sample (1-3,):[/b]Sorry, I just don't like RPing with people who post too short, are too ridiculous, or have bad writing skills. Delete in your app please.
[b]Notes (anything else you want to add):[/b]


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[b]Nation:[/b]
[b]House:[/b]
[b]Industry:[/b]
[b]Trade Stance:[/b]
[b]Army Types & #:[/b]
[b]Navy Types & #:[/b]
[b]Strengths:[/b]
[b]Weaknesses:[/b]


My app and example.

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Name of House: D'Altieri (and Cadet House Thorne)
Banner of House (describe or post a picture): Golden Double Eagle upon a Light Blue (Thorne Wine Red) Background
http://i.imgur.com/NQghNoJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TwlIcHR.png
Description of House: The House of Altieri is an ancient Dynasty having ruled the Empire of Dmesius for a thousand years, though the past few hundred have seen the family decline due to inbreeding, madness, and internal conflict between various cadet branches. Having been deposed from the Capitol Alais in the Dellitan isles, the young Emperor Dius has fled across the sea to the West, and his cousin Mordred's Sturmingian holdings in search of support, armies, and a base to conquer enough territory to eventually reclaim his Empire. Though mad, impatient, vicious, and unpleasant in nature the Emperor seems to listen to Mordred, who is both older, more dangerous, yet also more calculating, and certainly more personable.

If not mentioned, brief description of House's relationship and feelings towards The Empire: Not applicable
Head of House (name, age, and sex): His Imperial Majesty Dius XVI Roche-Yves D'Altieri, 22, M
Nobility Ranking (Lord, Earl, Count, Baron, Knight): Royalty
If not a Lord who are you a vassal to: Nobody
Brief Description of Head of House (history, personality, appearance): A pale, thin, delicate young man with white iris' and dark, red tinted sleek, straight long hair. He is an unpleasant individual with an overconfidence and god complex, combined with little regard for any but himself. This attitude and tendency toward cruelty led him to destroy most of his own Empire, choosing to kill the majority of his own blood relatives over stupid feuds and arguments and thus destabilize the solid noble bloodline and loyalty his predecessors had worked hard to build. He is a flamboyant man, dressing in fine velvets and silks, and his notorious white tiger pelt cape. His Dmesian accent is very noticeable, and the Derrian nobility often laugh at him behind his back for his aristocratic pronunciations, though his rage is also famous and something most try to avoid. He has been dubbed Dius 'The Swift' for his temper and skill as a rider. Very few have seen his face, as he often wears a ceremonial ivory, gold framed mask in his likeness.
Relevant House Members (names, age, sex, relation to head of house):
Mordred De Thorne, 33, Male, Marquis of Sturmingia
Leanly muscled and tall, he is the greatest swordsman in the land. Boasting the pale skin and classic white iris of the Dmesian Royalty, he also exhibits the sharper features of the Northmen, along with thick dark hair which he keeps in a single, extremely long braid. He is a calm man of fine taste and mystical study, with a mind for commerce, military affairs, and conquest. Where the Emperor is the face of rulership, Mordred is the brain behind the operation, working closely with Princess Philippa to manage the storm of damage that seems to follow Dius XVI.

Princess Philippa Antoinette, 26, Female, sister of Dius XVI
Black haired, pale skin, tall, thin, attractive for the most part. Philippa Antoinette is a strong politician and skillfully manipulates the Imperial court members to influence affairs of the Crown on behalf of her brother the King. She is a more cutthroat and morally loose character but is so only for the betterment of the realm and her family.


Name of the Land your house rules over: The Dmesian Empire, encompassing both the Dmesian Crownlands as well as the Imperial Principality of Sturmingia
Geography: To the east it is very rocky and mountainous, with a plethora of minerals and metal resources. Farming is near impossible. Though treacherous and constantly stormy, they manage to keep a steady flow of trade. Snow is common and Winters are harsh, though the summers are moist and cool with a constant fog and cloud cover.
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Postby Dalria » Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:26 pm

Tag, looks interesting! If anything could I reserve 6?
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Postby Eridanus 3 » Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:14 pm

Taggity tag tag. Reserve 7 please.


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Postby Zoblus » Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:44 pm

Tag
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Postby Der Kaiser Mikey III » Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:37 am

Dalria wrote:Tag, looks interesting! If anything could I reserve 2?

Two reserved
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Postby Der Kaiser Mikey III » Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:37 am

Eridanus 3 wrote:Taggity tag tag. Reserve 7 please.

Seven reserved
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What the hell are they doing snowboarding when they should be in the kitchen making a damn sandwich.

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Postby The National Dominion of Hungary » Mon Mar 07, 2016 8:56 am

Reserve 1 please

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Postby Zaporizhian Host » Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:04 am

Tag.
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Postby Zoblus » Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:09 am

Reserve 4 please
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Postby Taganian Unfied States » Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:11 am

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1,4 reserved
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Postby Zaporizhian Host » Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:48 am

I'll reserve 3 if possible.
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Postby Der Kaiser Mikey III » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:20 pm

Zaporizhian Host wrote:I'll reserve 3 if possible.

done
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What the hell are they doing snowboarding when they should be in the kitchen making a damn sandwich.

<b>My Political Views</b><br>I am a far-right social libertarian<br>Right: 7.82, Libertarian: 6.3<br><img src="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/36x33.gif"><br><a href="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/political-spectrum-quiz.html">Political Spectrum Quiz</a><br>

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Postby Stolen Idol » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:51 pm

Interesting enough the current history just feels like meanless names to me.
So, maybe that is putting me off from forming a great house of my own. So, the southern land has never been touched by an outside power before?

I'm still interested but I think I might wait for history and culture be fleshed out.
I'm interested in playing a knight/paladin so anyone who decides to app for the church let me know.

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Postby Asterdan » Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:09 pm

Can I reserve 5?
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Postby Eridanus 3 » Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:40 pm

My work in progress app...

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NS Nation Name: Eridanus 3
Name of House: Julian
Banner of House A blue and white checkered flag divided by an orange bar sinister.
Description of House: The house of Julian is an old and respected house, if not well favored. They have controlled the Isle of Sweet Providence for centuries, and were behind the founding of both the Church of the Paragon, and the Idellic Lector de Pax (leader of the Church) has long been a member of the Julian family. The family has deep ties to the Imperial throne as well. The kingdom unified the Isles of Providence (Sweet and Bitter) not long ago, in the aftermath of the civil wars and strife that drove the Empire off of the Eastern Islands.
If not mentioned, brief description of House's relationship and feelings towards The Empire: Good, but tensions are high due to recent events.
Head of House (name, age, and sex): Damian Julian Sviterk
Nobility Ranking (King, Lord, Earl, Count, Baron, Knight): King
If not a King who are you a vassal to (wait for a few Kingdom/ Great House apps before you answer): N/A
Brief Description of Head of House (history, personality, appearance):
Relevant House Members (names, age, sex, and brief description):
Name of the Land your house rules over: Kingdom of Svitjod
Land Claim if a Kingdom(1-6), or Great House: 7
Geography: Temperate to Artic, dependent on latitude.
RP sample (1-3,):Sorry, I just don't like RPing with people who post too short, are too ridiculous, or have bad writing skills. Delete in your app please.
Notes (anything else you want to add):


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Asterdan wrote:Can I reserve 5?

reserved
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What the hell are they doing snowboarding when they should be in the kitchen making a damn sandwich.

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Postby Dalria » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:39 pm

Ill get my app up tonight.

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Postby Bhikkustan » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:43 pm

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Postby Kaledoria » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:43 pm

Sounds cool, maybe I make a Lord or powerful Duke (or Earl, if you prefer that title)

Could you lay out the Army size thing a bit more, because imo nothing describes feudal armies worse then one fix limit. ;)

- 25,000 max for great houses including vassals: You do not make distinction between Kings and Lords here, intentional?
- Are retainers, garrisons, millitas and levies really all treated the same? This usually leads to people only using armies consisting entirely of retinues.
- Shouldn't there be a limit to demesne troops (yeah, all I know about feudal times I learned from Crusader Kings 2), or the Kings will simply say: My King has 20,000 men from his own holdings and 5,000 from vassals. Revolts? Lol.
- Do we automatically assume that the feudal contract force the vassals to provide their entire forces to their liege, no matter whether this is an offensive or defensive war, an internal matter of the Kingdom and no matter the cassus beli?
- What about a vassals vassals? The Duke of Westshire in the Lordship of Northborough has never sworn fealty to the King of Middleland, so he really does not see and reason to sent his troops to force that King's dodgy claim on the county of Osterstätten across the Kingdom's border.

There should not be hard and fix rules for that (in fact, it's more historically accurate if there is not) but some guideline, that we have a common ground would be good.





Oh, and what "medieval times" technology are you talking about?
While I do like the dirty, dirty 900s, I think a good middle ground is the 1200s. First "heavy" crossbows, Trebuchets for those that can effort the time and personal to have them build. Swords and Chainmail sufficiently common among the nobility, scale mail and rigid cuir broile (or whatever the spelling), too.
Or of course, the glorious 1400s: Plate mail, rapiers, mobile (kind of) trebuchets, Carrack that can finally master the high seas ...
(This also matters in terms of population density and urbanization)


About the Map:
- I assume, 1 is both the white and the brownish grey lands in the north,
- The Islands of the Former Provinces will not belong to a player realm.
- The Katarae Wetlands will not belong to anyone?
- The lands south of 1 belong to 2??
- The lands southwest of 6 belong to noone?
- The black continent in the east does not really exist, Shahronistan does exists but will not be a player realm.

I like making maps maybe I try to give that one a shot tomorrow (Do you still have the green/blue png without paint-additions?).
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Postby Bhikkustan » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:49 pm

Can I invent a religion?
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Postby Stolen Idol » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:54 pm

Bhikkustan wrote:Can I invent a religion?


The major religion so far has no details too it yet besides a name.

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Postby Asterdan » Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:11 pm

Actually, scratch my reservation, I think I'd rather be a lesser house, an Earl.
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Postby Der Kaiser Mikey III » Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:57 pm

Kaledoria wrote:Sounds cool, maybe I make a Lord or powerful Duke (or Earl, if you prefer that title)

Could you lay out the Army size thing a bit more, because imo nothing describes feudal armies worse then one fix limit. ;)

- 25,000 max for great houses including vassals: You do not make distinction between Kings and Lords here, intentional?
- Are retainers, garrisons, millitas and levies really all treated the same? This usually leads to people only using armies consisting entirely of retinues.
- Shouldn't there be a limit to demesne troops (yeah, all I know about feudal times I learned from Crusader Kings 2), or the Kings will simply say: My King has 20,000 men from his own holdings and 5,000 from vassals. Revolts? Lol.
- Do we automatically assume that the feudal contract force the vassals to provide their entire forces to their liege, no matter whether this is an offensive or defensive war, an internal matter of the Kingdom and no matter the cassus beli?
- What about a vassals vassals? The Duke of Westshire in the Lordship of Northborough has never sworn fealty to the King of Middleland, so he really does not see and reason to sent his troops to force that King's dodgy claim on the county of Osterstätten across the Kingdom's border.

There should not be hard and fix rules for that (in fact, it's more historically accurate if there is not) but some guideline, that we have a common ground would be good.





Oh, and what "medieval times" technology are you talking about?
While I do like the dirty, dirty 900s, I think a good middle ground is the 1200s. First "heavy" crossbows, Trebuchets for those that can effort the time and personal to have them build. Swords and Chainmail sufficiently common among the nobility, scale mail and rigid cuir broile (or whatever the spelling), too.
Or of course, the glorious 1400s: Plate mail, rapiers, mobile (kind of) trebuchets, Carrack that can finally master the high seas ...
(This also matters in terms of population density and urbanization)


About the Map:
- I assume, 1 is both the white and the brownish grey lands in the north,
- The Islands of the Former Provinces will not belong to a player realm.
- The Katarae Wetlands will not belong to anyone?
- The lands south of 1 belong to 2??
- The lands southwest of 6 belong to noone?
- The black continent in the east does not really exist, Shahronistan does exists but will not be a player realm.

I like making maps maybe I try to give that one a shot tomorrow (Do you still have the green/blue png without paint-additions?).

Firstly, to answer the map questions (And I always welcome help with map making, hell yeah!)

1 encompasses that spit of grassland too, they have small farming capabilities there.

Correct, Shahronistan, The Wetlands, and the Dellitan states will remain as a simply 'There type of thing, though trade with them is a common capability. They are non player and I or you may reference them or create minor ordeals with them, and considering most major things are discussed OOC I encourage ideas.

the black continent in the east will be revealed at a way later time, as we have plenty of material for this part of the story.


Technology will be early-mid medieval period, think first-second crusades.
In regard to nobility and the distinction between Great Lords and Kings, This is feudal and when it comes down to power the higher scale often times encompassed a King, and well as several Great Lords, in competition in regard to power and wealth. This is all up to players to agree upon, I look forward to seeing the apps emerge
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Postby Der Kaiser Mikey III » Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:58 pm

Asterdan wrote:Actually, scratch my reservation, I think I'd rather be a lesser house, an Earl.

Noted, though I'd wait to see more Great House apps emerge to choose
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