Luna Primum (Political/Character RP) - OOC

[G-Tech Corporation]

Now, I like diversified political parties as much as the next guy, but at this point I feel that the fact that 6/7 of all of the factions are one-player parties, and to some extent I feel like there are too many parties for the small number of people we have, and I worry that we will eventually get 30 factions each with one, or maybe two if your lucky, real members, and the party is really just that one person plus manufactured votes. And again, I am not claiming that we should have two faactions and no NPCs whatsoever, I am just saying that maybe limit how many more factions can be created, or possibly merge some that are too similar to count as seperate.

Though I agree with you to an extent, I'm not going to force anyone to merge political parties. However, I will attempt to find a solution. Could you list the political parties that you think are too similar?

I'd just keep the current factions, cap people at 50, and only allow new characters to join existing factions.

[Neo-Chicago]

Maybe add a bloc system and or coalition system?

Actually, I was going to request forming an alliance with a few other parties in my first IC post. I was thinking I would make the IC list of factions look something like this:

The Separatist Alliance
Faction 1
Faction 2
Faction 3

The Judaeo-Christian Confederation
Faction 4
Faction 5

etc.

Though I agree with you to an extent, I'm not going to force anyone to merge political parties. However, I will attempt to find a solution. Could you list the political parties that you think are too similar?

I'd just keep the current factions, cap people at 50, and only allow new characters to join existing factions.

Alright, I'll do that. I'm going to reduce faction numbers back to normal, and change a few numbers around. For instance, if someone had 6-8. and I put them at 8, I'll move them to 6. If anyone has a problem with this, I'll gladly listen to their concerns.

[Laboratory Mouse]

I'm curious to see how this system will work.

What system, the Lunar Council?

The whole RP, dear boy!

Now, I like diversified political parties as much as the next guy, but at this point I feel that the fact that 6/7 of all of the factions are one-player parties, and to some extent I feel like there are too many parties for the small number of people we have, and I worry that we will eventually get 30 factions each with one, or maybe two if your lucky, real members, and the party is really just that one person plus manufactured votes. And again, I am not claiming that we should have two faactions and no NPCs whatsoever, I am just saying that maybe limit how many more factions can be created, or possibly merge some that are too similar to count as seperate.

I can appreciate you putting your concerns out there in an intelligent way. Maybe we can brainstorm some kind of system or solution before the IC is posted.

Actually, I was going to request forming an alliance with a few other parties in my first IC post. I was thinking I would make the IC list of factions look something like this:

The Separatist Alliance
Faction 1
Faction 2
Faction 3

The Judaeo-Christian Confederation
Faction 4
Faction 5
etc

This could work. I don't want to be an arse, but not everyone who posted is going to be around long in the IC anyway. Meaning, the faction surplus issue will likely solve itself since inactive ones can be retcon'd out of the IC verse. Not only that, but IC the faction surplus might settle itself, as alliances are formed, some factions might merge with others, some may 'conquer' others. Like the two religious factions. Since they're both Abrahamic, they might but heads initially (one Catholic and one Christian), but over time, they might merge, or they might fight and end up being disbanded. As for an immediate solution? It's your RP and I'm not going to tell you what you SHOULD do. I'll give an idea though. Maybe end faction apps for now and have future interested players join one of the existing ones. I know that when I made my faction I was under the impression that the RP wouldn't gain as much interest as it did. I think, as far as factions go, we have all the 'tropes' ready to go.

We have the religious fanatics. We have the space corporation. We have the loyalists. We have the moderate separatists. We have the technocrats. And we have the extreme separatist 'racists'. We're looking pretty capped at the moment.

[Blorbs]

How I am seeing the resolution of the faction problem is going well, and yeah ending all new applications for new factions is probably a good idea. Any factions that themselves team up would probably merge relatively soon, and if there are any giant gaps where alot of people would want to be those factions will probably sprout out pretty fast.

[Neo-Chicago]

Alright, I ended up with a surplus of eight, so unless anyone wants to disband their faction, we're just going to have fifty-eight colonists now. No more factions will be created now, however, once further shipments of colonists arrive in the IC, I'll allow new factions. I'm leaving factions as-is now, and I'm going to explain in depth the new "Bloc" system in the IC, which I've decided to post early, either tonight, or later this evening.

[Blorbs]

One thing I would like to say is I feel that the Apollo Independance Coalition is just that, a coalition, that would probably dispand relatively soon once their base ideals go away and the less defined parts of the faction begin to shine, and I would expect it to split in two at that point, especially due to the lack of any really leftern factions.

[Neo-Chicago]

One thing I would like to say is I feel that the Apollo Independance Coalition is just that, a coalition, that would probably dispand relatively soon once their base ideals go away and the less defined parts of the faction begin to shine, and I would expect it to split in two at that point, especially due to the lack of any really leftern factions.

That applies to almost every faction, really.

[Laboratory Mouse]

One thing I would like to say is I feel that the Apollo Independance Coalition is just that, a coalition, that would probably dispand relatively soon once their base ideals go away and the less defined parts of the faction begin to shine, and I would expect it to split in two at that point, especially due to the lack of any really leftern factions.

That applies to almost every faction, really.

What makes you say that?

[Blorbs]

One thing I would like to say is I feel that the Apollo Independance Coalition is just that, a coalition, that would probably dispand relatively soon once their base ideals go away and the less defined parts of the faction begin to shine, and I would expect it to split in two at that point, especially due to the lack of any really leftern factions.

That applies to almost every faction, really.

I would disagree. The AIC has very few actual traits, with it's only real designation is being with a limited government (How? In what areas?) and being secular. The Sons of the Stars has an even worse version of this to the extent that it literaly has no opinion whatsoever on anything other than things that matter only on the moon, however the Free State of Luna and the two christain factions all have well defined politics in more than things relevent only on this specific situation, along with Gaia Fortuna and the Liber Charter.

All this is also not helped by the lack of a left, seperatist faction, which there is nothing to fill in the gap, causing some level of disparity in the AIC and the members will probably begin to become very divided soon enough.

[Neo-Chicago]

That applies to almost every faction, really.

What makes you say that?

Well, a large majority of the factions are focused on the moon, and nothing but the moon, though I'd argue that's something of a long-term goal. Still, I suppose we'll see what happens when it happens.

[Laboratory Mouse]

That applies to almost every faction, really.

I would disagree. The AIC has very few actual traits, with it's only real designation is being with a limited government (How? In what areas?) and being secular. The Sons of the Stars has an even worse version of this to the extent that it literaly has no opinion whatsoever on anything other than things that matter only on the moon, however the Free State of Luna and the two christain factions all have well defined politics in more than things relevent only on this specific situation, along with Gaia Fortuna and the Liber Charter.

All this is also not helped by the lack of a left, seperatist faction, which there is nothing to fill in the gap, causing some level of disparity in the AIC and the members will probably begin to become very divided soon enough.

Well, G did say in his app that the Sons could become militaristic in time. They'd have to have the right (or wrong) interactions with other factions. Keep in mind that the Sons are strictly scientists who have an interest in what space can offer. From what I gather, they ain't too worried about politics and Earthen imperialism. Not everyone has to have a grasp on every single aspect of what's going on right out the gate. Beyond that, I'm not sure what you mean when you talk about "well defined politics in more than things relevant only on this specific situation". The Free State really isn't that similar to the AIC or any other independence-minded faction. They are a collective of 'racists' who might actually want some kind of war with Earth. To cripple its population so as to create a permanent reminder that Spacenoids are better, and to keep their hands off of their resources. The Liber Charter is basically a corporate libertarian collective; what America would be better off as. Not much to say there except "obligatory space corporation confirmed". Gaia is interesting, however, in that they are explicitly loyal to Earth. They likely are something like the UN in space, and might even pave the way for the UN to establish a lunar presence (if they don't get murked).

What makes you say that?

Well, a large majority of the factions are focused on the moon, and nothing but the moon, though I'd argue that's something of a long-term goal. Still, I suppose we'll see what happens when it happens.

The Free State is focused on Luna, for now, but they have all of space in mind. From manufactured space colonies, to the other planets themselves. Space, as they see it, is theirs for the taking. I'd say they're the odd faction out in terms of focus, seeing as how they see SPACE as theirs. Not just Luna.

[Dalria]

How many men can I increase my faction's population by?

[Dukats]

How many men can I increase my faction's population by?

The OP said that we can't change the numbers for now.

[Neo-Chicago]

I would disagree. The AIC has very few actual traits, with it's only real designation is being with a limited government (How? In what areas?) and being secular. The Sons of the Stars has an even worse version of this to the extent that it literaly has no opinion whatsoever on anything other than things that matter only on the moon, however the Free State of Luna and the two christain factions all have well defined politics in more than things relevent only on this specific situation, along with Gaia Fortuna and the Liber Charter.

All this is also not helped by the lack of a left, seperatist faction, which there is nothing to fill in the gap, causing some level of disparity in the AIC and the members will probably begin to become very divided soon enough.

Well, G did say in his app that the Sons could become militaristic in time. They'd have to have the right (or wrong) interactions with other factions. Keep in mind that the Sons are strictly scientists who have an interest in what space can offer. From what I gather, they ain't too worried about politics and Earthen imperialism. Not everyone has to have a grasp on every single aspect of what's going on right out the gate. Beyond that, I'm not sure what you mean when you talk about "well defined politics in more than things relevant only on this specific situation". The Free State really isn't that similar to the AIC or any other independence-minded faction. They are a collective of 'racists' who might actually want some kind of war with Earth. To cripple its population so as to create a permanent reminder that Spacenoids are better, and to keep their hands off of their resources. The Liber Charter is basically a corporate libertarian collective; what America would be better off as. Not much to say there except "obligatory space corporation confirmed". Gaia is interesting, however, in that they are explicitly loyal to Earth. They likely are something like the UN in space, and might even pave the way for the UN to establish a lunar presence (if they don't get murked).

This has seriously confused me about your faction, by the way. Why do they despise Earth, and demonize them right out of the gate, despite the fact that they themselves are native Earthlings, and furthermore, were literally living on the planet a few days ago?

[Laboratory Mouse]

Well, G did say in his app that the Sons could become militaristic in time. They'd have to have the right (or wrong) interactions with other factions. Keep in mind that the Sons are strictly scientists who have an interest in what space can offer. From what I gather, they ain't too worried about politics and Earthen imperialism. Not everyone has to have a grasp on every single aspect of what's going on right out the gate. Beyond that, I'm not sure what you mean when you talk about "well defined politics in more than things relevant only on this specific situation". The Free State really isn't that similar to the AIC or any other independence-minded faction. They are a collective of 'racists' who might actually want some kind of war with Earth. To cripple its population so as to create a permanent reminder that Spacenoids are better, and to keep their hands off of their resources. The Liber Charter is basically a corporate libertarian collective; what America would be better off as. Not much to say there except "obligatory space corporation confirmed". Gaia is interesting, however, in that they are explicitly loyal to Earth. They likely are something like the UN in space, and might even pave the way for the UN to establish a lunar presence (if they don't get murked).

This has seriously confused me about your faction, by the way. Why do they despise Earth, and demonize them right out of the gate, despite the fact that they themselves are native Earthlings, and furthermore, were literally living on the planet a few days ago?

Living on Earth a few days ago, but I'm assuming the experiment has been in-progress since the 80s-90s. Even then, that's being liberal with the timeframe. It takes ages to coordinate something of this...er...breadth. Please tell me they didn't instantly get this project rolling. Please.

[Stolen Idol]

Name: James Gob

Gender: Male
Age: 33


Qualifications: Master in Agriculture from wageningen.
Appearance: White, blonde and blue eyed. Youthful Apperance.
Faction: None
Role: Botanist
Motivation: To use the moon to showcase farming techniques and to encourage alternative political ideals and philosophies. As he believes that the moon colony has a powerful effect on the future of society.
Other Information:"I grew up quite easy and comfortable as one can with a sliver spoon up their ..."moon". Ha, sorry couldn't resist. Anyway, my parents were hippies. They got together at Woodstock conceived yours truly and been together ever since. My father came from a long line of farmers. From him came my green thumb, from my mother the ablitity to speak to the trees." James burst into a rabid laughter before calming to a wide smile for a moment as he found his voice again. "My mother she is or was amazing. Only she could lead a small commune of stoned hippies into a multi million dollar business. Known as the Deep Earth Organization perhaps you heard of it? I spent my youth traveling all over the world with them. Going from third world to third world. To see the things I saw at that age. Had a powerful effect on me. Not really at that time. I was just a kid then, you understand? I didn't think about how close I was to the threats of war, famine, sickness and suffering. I never saw any actually, spent all my time playing soccer or whatever with the village kids.
That kind of perspective lead to two overwhelming revolutions in myself. First was the strong desire for the evolution of our world. Followed by a pressure to actually do something about it.
Which again lead to two things. Alpha and Omega, man. Yin and Yang, The beginning and the end.
Look I know you guys know all about me. I haven't much to hide. It's all been on the boob tube and whatever. Sure most of it's propgranda. The big cats trying to discredit me. How you make the man who has came up with the way to stop world hunger into a bad guy is beyond me. They gave a good run at it. I know they feel like I can't be any threat up here. As if I'll trade the world for a rock. Why they forget is the whole world will be watching me now. All they have to do is look up.

Why should you want me on the station you ask?
You wanna eat don't cha?
RP Example: See above
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[Neo-Chicago]

This has seriously confused me about your faction, by the way. Why do they despise Earth, and demonize them right out of the gate, despite the fact that they themselves are native Earthlings, and furthermore, were literally living on the planet a few days ago?

Living on Earth a few days ago, but I'm assuming the experiment has been in-progress since the 80s-90s. Even then, that's being liberal with the timeframe. It takes ages to coordinate something of this...er...breadth. Please tell me they didn't instantly get this project rolling. Please.

The experiment has been in the works for that long, yes, but purely on a theoretical level. The combined efforts of NASA, the ESA, the RSC, and CNSA, as well as several other space agencies brought the project to fruition. The preliminary design stages make up most of that time, and this coalition of space agencies, informally the WSA, contracted an outside corporation to construct the habitation building. The public was really only made aware about three years ago, when this WSA recruited colonists, and put the colonists with no experience through, for lack of a better term, astronaut training. Then, there was about a year of time to give the colonists the chance to make preparations to leave Earth, say goodbye to their loved ones, etc.

Also, Stolen Idol, legitimately unsure what that was all about, if you want to make an app, don't copy-paste someone else's, and then edit the information.

[Laboratory Mouse]

Living on Earth a few days ago, but I'm assuming the experiment has been in-progress since the 80s-90s. Even then, that's being liberal with the timeframe. It takes ages to coordinate something of this...er...breadth. Please tell me they didn't instantly get this project rolling. Please.

The experiment has been in the works for that long, yes, but purely on a theoretical level. The combined efforts of NASA, the ESA, the RSC, and CNSA, as well as several other space agencies brought the project to fruition. The preliminary design stages make up most of that time, and this coalition of space agencies, informally the WSA, contracted an outside corporation to construct the habitation building. The public was really only made aware about three years ago, when this WSA recruited colonists, and put the colonists with no experience through, for lack of a better term, astronaut training. Then, there was about a year of time to give the colonists the chance to make preparations to leave Earth, say goodbye to their loved ones, etc.

Hm. While the FS is still plausible based on what you just told me, I forgot to point out that they don't start out as hardcore as the app. I'm developing their views with the story. Plus, the app is a general explanation. It doesn't account for variables. Of which, there are nigh infinite.

Also, plagiarism two posts above?

[Stolen Idol]

Living on Earth a few days ago, but I'm assuming the experiment has been in-progress since the 80s-90s. Even then, that's being liberal with the timeframe. It takes ages to coordinate something of this...er...breadth. Please tell me they didn't instantly get this project rolling. Please.

The experiment has been in the works for that long, yes, but purely on a theoretical level. The combined efforts of NASA, the ESA, the RSC, and CNSA, as well as several other space agencies brought the project to fruition. The preliminary design stages make up most of that time, and this coalition of space agencies, informally the WSA, contracted an outside corporation to construct the habitation building. The public was really only made aware about three years ago, when this WSA recruited colonists, and put the colonists with no experience through, for lack of a better term, astronaut training. Then, there was about a year of time to give the colonists the chance to make preparations to leave Earth, say goodbye to their loved ones, etc.

Also, Stolen Idol, legitimately unsure what that was all about, if you want to make an app, don't copy-paste someone else's, and then edit the information.

My phone won't copy and paste so I just steal a app from someone with reply button. Forgot to delete the Rp link. Doh! Sorry.

Check my app now I fixed it.

[Neo-Chicago]

The experiment has been in the works for that long, yes, but purely on a theoretical level. The combined efforts of NASA, the ESA, the RSC, and CNSA, as well as several other space agencies brought the project to fruition. The preliminary design stages make up most of that time, and this coalition of space agencies, informally the WSA, contracted an outside corporation to construct the habitation building. The public was really only made aware about three years ago, when this WSA recruited colonists, and put the colonists with no experience through, for lack of a better term, astronaut training. Then, there was about a year of time to give the colonists the chance to make preparations to leave Earth, say goodbye to their loved ones, etc.

Also, Stolen Idol, legitimately unsure what that was all about, if you want to make an app, don't copy-paste someone else's, and then edit the information.

My phone won't copy and paste so I just steal a app from someone with reply button. Forgot to delete the Rp link. Doh! Sorry.

Check my app now I fixed it.

You're very obviously trolling, so your application is not going to be accepted, along with the countless other problems with it. By the time I list everything that's wrong with it, there's going to be a real Lunar Colony.

[Laboratory Mouse]

By the time I list everything that's wrong with it, there's going to be a real Lunar Colony.

DAMN!

[Stolen Idol]

Perhaps I am guilty of a quickly typed app.
as I mentioned before I'm currently using my phone. Which I find annoying due to it hinders the quality of my posts. Since editing is quite troublesome I don't use it when IC.
I would edit my app but you seem to suggest that wouldn't cut it.
Would you permit me to try again?
;_;

[Blorbs]

Why should you want me on the station you ask?
You wanna eat don't cha?

1. Not enough explination
2. You never say how you will get us to eat
3. There is not enough space on the colony to support all fifty colonists with food
4. Agricultural space is already taken up by Algae farms run by my carachter Maxphe
5. Your character has no experience or qualifications for anything whatsoever, other than a phony claim to 'speak with the trees'

[Neo-Chicago]

Perhaps I am guilty of a quickly typed app.
as I mentioned before I'm currently using my phone. Which I find annoying due to it hinders the quality of my posts. Since editing is quite troublesome I don't use it when IC.
I would edit my app but you seem to suggest that wouldn't cut it.
Would you permit me to try again?
;_;

Well, in addition to what Blorbs said, you don't even have a backstory. I find it hard to believe that this was on accident, since you literally deleted it from the post.

[Blorbs]

Perhaps I am guilty of a quickly typed app.
as I mentioned before I'm currently using my phone. Which I find annoying due to it hinders the quality of my posts. Since editing is quite troublesome I don't use it when IC.
I would edit my app but you seem to suggest that wouldn't cut it.
Would you permit me to try again?
;_;

Well, in addition to what Blorbs said, you don't even have a backstory. I find it hard to believe that this was on accident, since you literally deleted it from the post.

What I said was literally only about those two lines. I have a whole plethera of problems I have with the rest of your post.

You can always resubmit, but due to the very low quality I doubt that, on your phone or not, you can make an acceptable application. And it's not that we really need every single detail, but it's that if you are incapable of producing a good aplication then you are probably also incapable of coherent, logical RPing.