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Postby Lenyo » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:39 am

Ha, Revolutionary France is unstoppable. :lol:
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Postby Cymrea » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:38 am

Oscalantine wrote:Moving on... [Cambria has finally realized its colonial destiny!] I thought I'll only see Spanish colonies, but we will see Cambrian ones as well ^^.

Awww...very cool! :)
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Postby Tracian Empire » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:40 am

I'm finally back, the triumphus will start tonight or tomorrow morning.
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Postby Imperialisium » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:14 pm

Currently catching up on the IC
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Oscalantine
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Postby Oscalantine » Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:31 am

I made a short break myself, so no worries ^^

Alright... my last conversation with Nova left a bit of mark on me: time to make some executive decisions.


  1. This RP will now be semi-closed, with last members pending be Persia. I will be TGing him sometime today.
  2. Inactive members as of now is Soviet Charous, who will be notified and... if not responding, promptly booted for more space in the map.
  3. This has ALWAYS been in the OP, but I was not enforcing it... now I will: all colonization / annexation of territories now HAVE to be notified to OP or Co-OP.


The last one... I finally lost. It doesn't pertain to Nova, although Nova has been the one who voiced it and has gotten the worst of my inability as OP: I just cannot read every post to a detail that I need to. I tried to be as diligent as possible, and for the most part, I have kept up with everyone. However, some posts are either too long or too detailed for me to understand with a skim, and that leaves a lot folks unsatisfied.

I apologize T~T [/bows]. I wish I was a better OP. But I just cannot do what most OPs can do, and I am making everyone suffer by keeping it under a rug or laughing it over with a joke.

And... Soviet HAS contacted me prior to reboot about his coming. However, it is almost second week of January and he still hasn't shown up in the RP. So many of those who had difficulty... I know Benuty and Elerian especially... have made time for me and kept me updated. I thank them, and I also have to cut Soviet's hiatus sometime. I will give Soviet one last TG, and if he doesn't respond with a few days, I will have to remove him to free up some spot in the RP.




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Oscalantine wrote:"I am not your buddy, guy!"

"But I am your guy, buddy..."


T~T

Come'on, friend.

You either stopped the joke because it was too old or you just didn't get that I was having fun XDDD
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Postby Conwy-Shire » Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:47 am

Oscalantine wrote:Come'on, friend.

You either stopped the joke because it was too old or you just didn't get that I was having fun XDDD

I twisted the joke to stop the joke from progressing - and yes I think it is getting a tad bit aged
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Oscalantine
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Postby Oscalantine » Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:53 am

Conwy-shire wrote:
Oscalantine wrote:Come'on, friend.

You either stopped the joke because it was too old or you just didn't get that I was having fun XDDD

I twisted the joke to stop the joke from progressing - and yes I think it is getting a tad bit aged


Man, it was a PERFECT setup, though! And... you HAD to expect it coming, seeing how you ended the sentence XDDD

... but I do agree to your complaint about not having Courland in the map. Sweden is getting their arse handed by Neo Russian Empire. And with Rome rivaling Poland... Russia will dominate the entire East Europe without Couronian intervention... which cannot be made in this case T~T

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Postby Vulkanas » Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:40 pm

Full Nation Name : The Swedish Empire
Majority/Official Culture : Swedish (though Norwegian, Finnish, Icelandic, etc. are accepted)
Territorial Core : The Light Blue provinces on this map.
Territorial Claim : The pink provinces on this map.
Capital City : Stockholm
Population : 6 million (this can be adjusted if necessary, I couldn't find much historical data)

Government Type : Constitutional Monarchy, with multiple parliaments (similar to the IRL United Kingdom)
Government Ideology/Policies : Imperialist, Scientific
Government Focus : Science & innovation, industrial development
Head of State : King Gustav V Adolf af Vasa
Head of Government : Prime Minister Fredrik Sundström
Government Description : The King is officially the ruler, and all law must be passed through him before being put into practice. There is a Swedish parliament, which handle all the national affairs of Sweden (in which only people in the region of Sweden get to vote) as well as overall international affairs and empire-wide law. The Swedish Parliament handles business for overseas territories as well. There is also a Norwegian Parliament, which has limited powers for national affairs in Norway only (similarly to how the Scottish parliament works in the IRL UK).

Majority/State Religion : No official state religion, however of those who practice religion Protestantism is most common
Religious Description : ---

Economic Ideologies : Mercantilism, but with Socialist ideas becoming more prominent (i.e. The state owning things).
Major Production : Timber, Fish, Copper & steel, ships.
Economic Description : A prominent but small economy in world trade, which relies mostly on the exports of raw materials. Industry is somewhat behind that of other European nations.

Army Strength : Environmental hardiness, well-equipped, well disciplined
Army Weakness : Quite small
Naval Strength : High quality ships, abundance of materials, many trade ships
Naval Weakness : A less than encouraging naval history (think Vasa, Götheburg, etc)
Further Military Description : Will be added soon

National Goals : Reconquer Finland and Estonia, increase industrial strength, cultivate more science
National Issues : The economy needs to grow, Norway needs further integration, methods must be found of improving infrastructure despite harsh climate.
National Figures of Interest : Well there's Alfred Nobel who will invent dynamite very soon, but nobody else really.
National Ambition/Aspirations : Becoming a true great power.

History : History is the same of that of IRL Sweden until 1814. Sweden does not form a union with Norway until 1833, when Sweden, along with the Hansa (see the Hansa Federation app history), defeat Denmark. Norway acts as some kind of compensation for the loss of Finland to Russia and Courland in the Napoleonic wars. Sweden also attempts at some colonial efforts, yielding the territories of Nya Goteborg (IRL South Georgia), Julön (IRL Christmas Island), and Stillahavsöarna (IRL New Caledonia and several other Pacific Islands).
EDIT - In a slight attempt to almost go along with the IC, Norway is very very poorly integrated.
I can expand a little by adding earlier history in the future if necessary.

Comparison Points – Political : 3
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 1
Comparison Points – Economy : 4
Comparison Points – Military : 2
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10
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Postby Zionatra » Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:30 pm

Vulkanas wrote:Full Nation Name : The Swedish Empire
Majority/Official Culture : Swedish (though Norwegian, Finnish, Icelandic, etc. are accepted)
Territorial Core : The Light Blue provinces on this map.
Territorial Claim : The pink provinces on this map.
Capital City : Stockholm
Population : 6 million (this can be adjusted if necessary, I couldn't find much historical data)

Government Type : Constitutional Monarchy, with multiple parliaments (similar to the IRL United Kingdom)
Government Ideology/Policies : Imperialist, Scientific
Government Focus : Science & innovation, industrial development
Head of State : King Gustav V Adolf af Vasa
Head of Government : Prime Minister Fredrik Sundström
Government Description : The King is officially the ruler, and all law must be passed through him before being put into practice. There is a Swedish parliament, which handle all the national affairs of Sweden (in which only people in the region of Sweden get to vote) as well as overall international affairs and empire-wide law. The Swedish Parliament handles business for overseas territories as well. There is also a Norwegian Parliament, which has limited powers for national affairs in Norway only (similarly to how the Scottish parliament works in the IRL UK).

Majority/State Religion : No official state religion, however of those who practice religion Protestantism is most common
Religious Description : ---

Economic Ideologies : Mercantilism, but with Socialist ideas becoming more prominent (i.e. The state owning things).
Major Production : Timber, Fish, Copper & steel, ships.
Economic Description : A prominent but small economy in world trade, which relies mostly on the exports of raw materials. Industry is somewhat behind that of other European nations.

Army Strength : Environmental hardiness, well-equipped, well disciplined
Army Weakness : Quite small
Naval Strength : High quality ships, abundance of materials, many trade ships
Naval Weakness : A less than encouraging naval history (think Vasa, Götheburg, etc)
Further Military Description : Will be added soon

National Goals : Reconquer Finland and Estonia, increase industrial strength, cultivate more science
National Issues : The economy needs to grow, Norway needs further integration, methods must be found of improving infrastructure despite harsh climate.
National Figures of Interest : Well there's Alfred Nobel who will invent dynamite very soon, but nobody else really.
National Ambition/Aspirations : Becoming a true great power.

History : History is the same of that of IRL Sweden until 1814. Sweden does not form a union with Norway until 1833, when Sweden, along with the Hansa (see the Hansa Federation app history), defeat Denmark. Norway acts as some kind of compensation for the loss of Finland to Russia and Courland in the Napoleonic wars. Sweden also attempts at some colonial efforts, yielding the territories of Nya Goteborg (IRL South Georgia), Julön (IRL Christmas Island), and Stillahavsöarna (IRL New Caledonia and several other Pacific Islands).
EDIT - In a slight attempt to almost go along with the IC, Norway is very very poorly integrated.
I can expand a little by adding earlier history in the future if necessary.

Comparison Points – Political : 3
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 1
Comparison Points – Economy : 4
Comparison Points – Military : 2
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10


Good luck I think the germans and Couronians are gunna munch your clay.

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The Ik Ka Ek Akai
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:17 pm

Zionatra wrote:
Vulkanas wrote:Full Nation Name : The Swedish Empire
Majority/Official Culture : Swedish (though Norwegian, Finnish, Icelandic, etc. are accepted)
Territorial Core : The Light Blue provinces on this map.
Territorial Claim : The pink provinces on this map.
Capital City : Stockholm
Population : 6 million (this can be adjusted if necessary, I couldn't find much historical data)

Government Type : Constitutional Monarchy, with multiple parliaments (similar to the IRL United Kingdom)
Government Ideology/Policies : Imperialist, Scientific
Government Focus : Science & innovation, industrial development
Head of State : King Gustav V Adolf af Vasa
Head of Government : Prime Minister Fredrik Sundström
Government Description : The King is officially the ruler, and all law must be passed through him before being put into practice. There is a Swedish parliament, which handle all the national affairs of Sweden (in which only people in the region of Sweden get to vote) as well as overall international affairs and empire-wide law. The Swedish Parliament handles business for overseas territories as well. There is also a Norwegian Parliament, which has limited powers for national affairs in Norway only (similarly to how the Scottish parliament works in the IRL UK).

Majority/State Religion : No official state religion, however of those who practice religion Protestantism is most common
Religious Description : ---

Economic Ideologies : Mercantilism, but with Socialist ideas becoming more prominent (i.e. The state owning things).
Major Production : Timber, Fish, Copper & steel, ships.
Economic Description : A prominent but small economy in world trade, which relies mostly on the exports of raw materials. Industry is somewhat behind that of other European nations.

Army Strength : Environmental hardiness, well-equipped, well disciplined
Army Weakness : Quite small
Naval Strength : High quality ships, abundance of materials, many trade ships
Naval Weakness : A less than encouraging naval history (think Vasa, Götheburg, etc)
Further Military Description : Will be added soon

National Goals : Reconquer Finland and Estonia, increase industrial strength, cultivate more science
National Issues : The economy needs to grow, Norway needs further integration, methods must be found of improving infrastructure despite harsh climate.
National Figures of Interest : Well there's Alfred Nobel who will invent dynamite very soon, but nobody else really.
National Ambition/Aspirations : Becoming a true great power.

History : History is the same of that of IRL Sweden until 1814. Sweden does not form a union with Norway until 1833, when Sweden, along with the Hansa (see the Hansa Federation app history), defeat Denmark. Norway acts as some kind of compensation for the loss of Finland to Russia and Courland in the Napoleonic wars. Sweden also attempts at some colonial efforts, yielding the territories of Nya Goteborg (IRL South Georgia), Julön (IRL Christmas Island), and Stillahavsöarna (IRL New Caledonia and several other Pacific Islands).
EDIT - In a slight attempt to almost go along with the IC, Norway is very very poorly integrated.
I can expand a little by adding earlier history in the future if necessary.

Comparison Points – Political : 3
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 1
Comparison Points – Economy : 4
Comparison Points – Military : 2
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10


Good luck I think the germans and Couronians are gunna munch your clay.


Speaking of, where is that silly Couri player?

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Postby Conwy-Shire » Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:57 pm

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:Speaking of, where is that silly Couri player?

you forced my hand, foiled I am
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Postby Oscalantine » Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:02 am

Guys for the last time...

1) no one besides Hansa and Korea currently OWNS ironclad. Even they have very few of them.

2) those who can develop them as of now are in Western or Oriental tech group... as in, those in Far East or Western Europe unless otherwise recognized.

3) among those who cannot... what they have is a primitive version that cannot move to high seas IF they have developed them.


My executive ruling on exceptions to these rules is that it never occurred in the spectrum of the IC posts. Please make note of this.

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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:58 am

Conwy-shire wrote:
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:Speaking of, where is that silly Couri player?

you forced my hand, foiled I am


I shall henceforth call your people Couri, or maybe Couroni

#Indicize

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Oscalantine
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Postby Oscalantine » Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:28 am

Vulkanas wrote:-snip-


... ... ... ^^;;;

Vulkanas? The RP is semi-closed. Though you may want to know this. But enough about that, since I was wanting that nation filled up.

I cannot approve this. There just isn't enough detail to determine where is your AH in. Yes, you used a lot of current nation's names, but that's it. There is no detail in the application that is uniquely your own. I give you my blessing when the quality of apps that came before are in such better quality than this. Sorry ^^;;;

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Postby Tracian Empire » Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:13 am

Oscalantine wrote:Guys for the last time...

1) no one besides Hansa and Korea currently OWNS ironclad. Even they have very few of them.

2) those who can develop them as of now are in Western or Oriental tech group... as in, those in Far East or Western Europe unless otherwise recognized.

3) among those who cannot... what they have is a primitive version that cannot move to high seas IF they have developed them.


My executive ruling on exceptions to these rules is that it never occurred in the spectrum of the IC posts. Please make note of this.


Ironclads with Greek fire throwing siphōns mounted on board..

I can't wait for the Classis to get ironclads sometime in the future.
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Postby Vulkanas » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:20 am

Oscalantine wrote:... ... ... ^^;;;

Vulkanas? The RP is semi-closed. Though you may want to know this. But enough about that, since I was wanting that nation filled up.

I cannot approve this. There just isn't enough detail to determine where is your AH in. Yes, you used a lot of current nation's names, but that's it. There is no detail in the application that is uniquely your own. I give you my blessing when the quality of apps that came before are in such better quality than this. Sorry ^^;;;

Ok.
I might have another go then because you said you wanted it to be filled, but I will change things - especially the history, since you didn't seem to like it very much. Just one question: thinking of the events in the IC, would you rather I did a union between Sweden and Norway, or just Sweden?
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Postby Oscalantine » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:33 am

Vulkanas wrote:Ok.
I might have another go then because you said you wanted it to be filled, but I will change things - especially the history, since you didn't seem to like it very much. Just one question: thinking of the events in the IC, would you rather I did a union between Sweden and Norway, or just Sweden?


Thanks for having a positive outlook in this ^^. I really appreciate it.

That being said, I'll reserve the region for you: the old guy probably dropped out and his reserve has been 2 weeks in making... so I am going to opt him out. I would remind him if only he had any presence in this OOC...

Anyhow, I don't mind either way: as long as you have a point of divergence (that's why the title is as such XDDD) you should be fine. I guess what really irked me is lack of detail in the application as a whole. Try looking at some of the other apps in the first OP, and you'll see the level of excellence that everyone has put int ^^;;;

Tracian Empire wrote:Ironclads with Greek fire throwing siphōns mounted on board..

I can't wait for the Classis to get ironclads sometime in the future.


Scary... although I wonder if heating up ironclad would be an effective tactic. I understand that heated metallic box could be fatal (that's how most tank drivers die nowadays, right? Simply being roasted within their own tank hulls), but would it be when they are floating in the water? Dunno, and I cannot wait to find out XDDD




Finished AMAZING session on the EU4. I am uploading them so I hope to share with everyone soon ^^;;;

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Postby Tracian Empire » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:58 am

Oscalantine wrote:
Vulkanas wrote:Ok.
I might have another go then because you said you wanted it to be filled, but I will change things - especially the history, since you didn't seem to like it very much. Just one question: thinking of the events in the IC, would you rather I did a union between Sweden and Norway, or just Sweden?


Thanks for having a positive outlook in this ^^. I really appreciate it.

That being said, I'll reserve the region for you: the old guy probably dropped out and his reserve has been 2 weeks in making... so I am going to opt him out. I would remind him if only he had any presence in this OOC...

Anyhow, I don't mind either way: as long as you have a point of divergence (that's why the title is as such XDDD) you should be fine. I guess what really irked me is lack of detail in the application as a whole. Try looking at some of the other apps in the first OP, and you'll see the level of excellence that everyone has put int ^^;;;

Tracian Empire wrote:Ironclads with Greek fire throwing siphōns mounted on board..

I can't wait for the Classis to get ironclads sometime in the future.


Scary... although I wonder if heating up ironclad would be an effective tactic. I understand that heated metallic box could be fatal (that's how most tank drivers die nowadays, right? Simply being roasted within their own tank hulls), but would it be when they are floating in the water? Dunno, and I cannot wait to find out XDDD




Finished AMAZING session on the EU4. I am uploading them so I hope to share with everyone soon ^^;;;


Well, since the Greek Fire also burn on water, it would burn on everything around the ironclad. If the fire gets inside, it would be even worse. Still, it would be an interesting addition to the power of an ironclad.
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Postby Oscalantine » Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:15 am

Alright. Done uploading ^^

Firstly... [My goal for this Session]. Japan has been expanding... in fact, OVEREXPANDING. They have been spending mil points on suppressing rebels (point of reference is that Cheng... same tech ground, same tech idea... has 2 mil levels ahead of Japan) among many other things. I feel like with tech 15 coming around... it will be now or never. I NEED to break Japan before the grow too big and thin about attacking me ^^



[France is Defender of Faith, btw.]

[And French expansion continues.] I didn't put it on the screenshot, but I found out why France is winning in a lot of this: France has THE LARGEST amount of Heavy Ships in the world... with high 30's ships to Cambria's ten's (despite the fact that Cambria has THE highest naval force limit at 280's)

[Thought I wanted to put this... so Hansa of them]
[And... Poland's days are numbered]

[Christendom v Austrasia: round two]
... [And... Austrasia lost AGAIN.] I find it hard to believe that Christendom is SO POWERFUL. I mean... SERIOUSLY. How in the world are they doing that over and over again against ALL ODDS?!

[Essentially? World War XDDD]

[I met Aztec. This is insane.]

[Uuuh... Saxahvall. You are in one-path to SUICIDE]

[Chuk-Jae-Do... one goal for my campaign completed ^^]

And now... my campaign against Japan. No offense, Ty, but Dai Nippon Teikoku is SO powerful... So expansive... that if I don't deal with it NOW... I just will not win. I was 3 tech levels ahead, Cheng is still my ally, I got ALL the morale modifiers, and I finally have 70+ ducats per month capital inflow. It was either I break, so Japan breaks.

[So this was what the overall alliance was between parties.] Holy War Casus Beli... and stuff.

Cheng started messing with Manchuria, and Japanese soldiers were in Manchuria, so I attacked the Southernmost tip of Japanese Islands with my troops. And there I see... Japanese forces coming for me in full. [Why didn't you stay in Manchuria?!]

[Japan STILL Has better morale?!?!]

[Moral of the day: just shoot them dead with your cannons before soldiers can get too close XDDD]

[So this is what better Artillery Modifier does ^^]

So basically the war was all downhill from there. Japanese army was completed destroyed... wiped en-mass battalion at a time. Few mishaps here and there, but overall, I didn't even need to do war of attrition. While I feel like artillery combat modifier is INSANE now, I also know that Japan STILL had more morale that I did when I was THREE tech levels higher. For the life of me, this is scary... and I am glad that I shot first #preemptive_strike_FTW.


And... finally, Religious War happened in Europe. Hansa joined against Catholics in Protestant league despite being Catholic... and so did Christendom, of all nations (probably because Austrasia is emperor... but still a bit weird ^^;;;)

And... just four words... just four: [Protestant] [League] [is SCREWED].

A light of hope, though: [The shining star of Christendom is in Evangelical Union]

I have world views... but I'll just post Americas, since I already have too many screenshots ^^
[#see.Novacom]
[Cambrian Colonies~!]
[South America... Brazil is kicking arse!!]

That's all ~

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Postby Lenyo » Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:25 am

Oscalantine wrote:And... just four words... just four: [Protestant] [League] [is SCREWED].

Nice: France, Rome, and Russia teamed up to curb stomp protestantism. So AH. Wait, Christendom went protestant? The pope is protestant? What? How?

Also the Azteks just control the Pacific Ocean in your EU4 game. :p
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Postby Oscalantine » Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:31 am

Lenyo wrote:
Oscalantine wrote:And... just four words... just four: [Protestant] [League] [is SCREWED].

Nice: France, Rome, and Russia teamed up to curb stomp protestantism. So AH. Wait, Christendom went protestant? The pope is protestant? What? How?

Also the Azteks just control the Pacific Ocean in your EU4 game. :p


It HAS to be a mechanic of being rival to the emperor. Papal State still exists... that white dot in the middle of France is still Papal States XDDD. The true Pope is under the protection of the Republic~

Yee. Aztec is such a powerhouse in this scenario. I sort of wanted Pacific for myself to connect Panama to Nippon to Malacca, but that dream is a bit ruined. Still, good to see anything BUT Colonized Americas. ^^

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Postby Vulkanas » Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:44 am

My Revised App. Anything can be changed if necessary.

Full Nation Name : The Kingdom of Sweden
Majority/Official Culture : Swedish (though Norwegian, Finnish, Icelandic, etc. are accepted)
Territorial Core : The Light Blue provinces on this map.
Territorial Claim : The pink provinces on this map.
Capital City : Stockholm
Population : 4 million (this can be adjusted if necessary, I couldn't find much historical data)

Government Type : Constitutional Monarchy, with multiple parliaments (similar to the IRL United Kingdom)
Government Ideology/Policies : Imperialist, Scientific
Government Focus : Science & innovation, industrial development
Head of State : King Charles XIV Bernadotte
Head of Government : Prime Minister Fredrik Sundström (Social Democratic Party)
Government Description : The King is officially the ruler, and all law must be passed through him before being put into practice. There is a Swedish parliament, which handle all the national affairs of Sweden (in which only people in the region of Sweden get to vote) as well as overall international affairs and empire-wide law. The Swedish Parliament handles business for overseas territories as well. There is also a Norwegian Parliament, which has limited powers for national affairs in Norway only (similarly to how the Scottish parliament works in the IRL UK).

Majority/State Religion : No official state religion, however of those who practice religion Protestantism is most common
Religious Description : ---

Economic Ideologies : Mercantilism, but with Socialist ideas becoming more prominent (i.e. The state owning things).
Major Production : Timber, Fish, Copper & steel, ships.
Economic Description : A prominent but small economy in world trade, which relies mostly on the exports of raw materials. Industry is somewhat behind that of other European nations.

Army Strength : Environmental hardiness, well-equipped, well disciplined
Army Weakness : Quite small
Naval Strength : High quality ships, abundance of materials, many trade ships
Naval Weakness : A less than encouraging naval history (think Vasa, Götheburg, etc)
Further Military Description : The army's size is just 200,000 and the colonies have very little protection. Warships are not in abundance, but trading ships are.

National Goals : Reconquer Finland and Estonia, increase industrial strength, cultivate more science
National Issues : The economy needs to grow, Norway needs further integration, methods must be found of improving infrastructure despite harsh climate.
National Figures of Interest : Well there's Alfred Nobel who will invent dynamite very soon, but I'm not sure if he counts yet. Dynamite will improve mining greatly though.
National Ambition/Aspirations : Becoming a true great power.

History :
- For centuries, the Swedes and other Norsemen were famed merchant seamen, well known for their far-reaching trade. By the 10th Century AD, the creation of better ships, high quality weapons, and a quest for better things had set Swedes on global journeys, spreading their name across Europe, Russia, Asia, even across the Atlantic Ocean.
- During the 11th and 12th centuries, Sweden gradually became a unified Christian kingdom that later included Finland. Until 1060, the kings of Uppsala ruled most of modern Sweden except the southern and western coastal regions, which remained under Danish rule. The Vikings sailed rivers, plundered, and brought back wealth to an otherwise remote kingdom.
- Sweden faced a difficult period after the ways of the Vikings were abandoned - troubles with the black death and internal civil wars. In 1327, the Danes imposed the Union of Kalmar upon Sweden and Norway. While the Swedish nobility agreed at the time, Sweden's people were soon to fight for their freedom. There were conflicts between Sweden and Denmark for decades, even centuries. Sweden found its independence in the 16th century, when Gustavus Adolphus Vasa led Swedes to disintegrate the Kalmar Union, crushed attempts to restore it, introduced the Swedish Lutheran Church, and his inventive military tactics established modern Sweden, and set its trajectory to become a great power.
From 1560 onwards Sweden grew from strength to strength, winning wars against Denmark, Norway, even Russia. Sweden was at the height of its glory. Until 1700...
- The Great Northern War was the turning point in Sweden's expansion. A Coalition of Russia, Norway, Denmark, and several other states removed much of Sweden's power. Finland was lost, the Baltic provinces gone, and the economy brought down by years of war. It was a slow recovery.
- Sweden joined in the 'Enlightenment culture' of the day in the arts, architecture, science and learning. A new law in 1766 established for the first time the principle of freedom of the press—a notable step towards liberty of political opinion. The Academy of Science was founded in 1739 and the Academy of Letters, History, and Antiquities in 1753. The outstanding cultural leader was Carl Linnaeus (1707–78), whose work in biology and ethnography had a major impact on European science.
- Following half a century of parliamentary domination came the reaction. King Gustav III came to the throne in 1771, and in 1772 led a coup d'état, with French support, that established him as an 'enlightened despot,' who ruled at will. The Age of Freedom and bitter party politics was over. He was a well educated patron of the arts and music. His edicts reformed the bureaucracy, repaired the currency, expanded trade, and improved defence. The population had reached 2.0 million and the country was prosperous. Gustav III weakened the nobility and promoted numerous major social reforms. He felt the Swedish monarchy could survive and flourish by achieving a coalition with the newly emerged middle classes against the nobility. He personally disliked the French Revolution, but he decided to promote additional antifeudal reforms to strengthen his hand among the middle classes.
(This is what I would consider to be the "point of divergence". History before this point is reasonably accurate to what actually happened IRL. After this point I still stay quite close to what actually happened, but notable things have been changed.)
- When Gustav declared war on Russia and did poorly he was assassinated by a conspiracy of nobles angry that he tried to restrict their privileges for the benefit of the peasants. Under King Charles XIII, Sweden joined various coalitions against Napoleon, but was badly defeated and lost much of its territory. The king was overthrown by the army, which in 1810 decided to bring in one of Napoleon's marshals, Bernadotte, as the heir apparent. He had a Jacobin background and was well-grounded in revolutionary principles, but put Sweden in the coalition that opposed Napoleon. He served as a quite conservative king Charles XIV John of Sweden.
- Sweden experimented briefly with overseas colonialism, gaining the territories of Nya Göteborg (IRL South Georgia), Julön (IRL Christmas Island), and Stillahavsöarna (IRL New Caledonia and several other Pacific Islands).
- During Charles XIV reign, the first stage of the Industrial Revolution reached Sweden. This first take-off was founded on rural forges, textile proto-industries and sawmills. The 19th early century was marked by the emergence of a liberal opposition press, favour of free enterprise, the introduction of taxation and voting reforms, the installation of a national military service, and the rise in the electorate of three major party groups—Social Democratic Party, Liberal Party, and Conservative Party.
- An increased science funding saw the founding of technical institutions such as the Kungliga Tekniska Högskolan and a decline in the religious population, with atheism becoming more popular. Despite this, the move to having no set state religion was internationally controversial.
- An unlikely alliance between the Hansa Federation and Sweden in 1833 saw Denmark conquered by the Germans and Norway granted to the Swedes. A union was established and a system of separate parliaments introduced (as explained above in the government section).
- And so, we find ourselves in the present. Sweden is a country with little industry, a small empire, poor Norwegian integration, no money, a weak army, but what it does have, is solidarity, hardiness, innovation, spirit, and most of all, potential. Sweden is not a great power. But the people believe it can be once more. The present is bleak, with strong neighbours that desire land, and the risk of intervention from other great powers. But people are inspired. Inspired to learn, invent, discover. Will they discover a great future for Sweden?

Comparison Points – Political : 3
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 1
Comparison Points – Economy : 4
Comparison Points – Military : 2
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10

Please tell me if there is anything that needs to be changed or elaborated upon.
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Lenyo
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Ex-Nation

Postby Lenyo » Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:58 am

All hail the new Sweden! Your app looks cool to me. Feel free to export raw materials to France and import processed goods from France. Also the more you to leans towards a republic - the less monarchical you are - the better your relations will be with France.
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Rygondria » Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:47 am

i kinda have writers block for writing for the netherlands.i try to think somthing up

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Democratic Socialists

Postby Imperialisium » Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:38 pm

Courland did you send me something in the IC like we discussed? I may have missed it otherwise I really only have a reply for Tracian.
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