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by Conwy-Shire » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:00 pm
Jaslandia wrote:Relations with the Two Sicilies are cautious. While Epirus hopes that Naples can be a friend, at the same time, there are strong concerns that the Kingdom of Two Sicilies intends to conquer Epirus in the future.
by Jaslandia » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:07 pm
But seriously, I put that in there because I figured even if you haven't invaded yet, there would be some hints that it's coming (increasingly distant relationship, military buildup, making diplomatic entreaties to Epirus's enemies, etc). Should I remove that part?by Terminus Alpha » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:12 pm
Kryskov wrote:Lunas Legion wrote:
Yes, because then I can use it as a staging point for my invasion of the rest of Hesperia.
Also, me any Kry (Catalonia) were having the PoD for stuff in Iberia back in the War of the Castillian Succession which ends in a Castillian defeat, as that's the only logical place for a indie Catalonia to emerge that we could find, which conflicts with Hesperian history.
If Hesperia is willing, we can simply change it to an Iberian succession feud instead. It probably wouldn't change the history beyond that at all.
by Conwy-Shire » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:15 pm
Jaslandia wrote:We may be mind-readers, but unfortunately, we still haven't mastered the Force.
. It would be easy to notice the buildup of military forces in Lecce though - so kudos to your spies hahaby Jaslandia » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:18 pm
Conwy-shire wrote:Jaslandia wrote:We may be mind-readers, but unfortunately, we still haven't mastered the Force.
Nah, I don't mind if the Epirote people are smart enough to see the inevitable
by Alleniana » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:41 pm
Senkaku wrote:Guys. Cut it out with the arguing, or at least spoiler it or take it to telegrams. You're cluttering the place up at this point.
That especially goes for Allen and Jon.
The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:Senkaku wrote:I don't want to hear anything more about it, ICD. Am I clear?
The Doge is not a monarch. He is elected for life by the city's aristocracy. Thus oligarchical republic.
The United Kingdom is organized as a republic with a hereditary figurehead monarch at the top. Canada just technically has her as the head of state and she doesn't actually do anything in either one.
Doesn't matter in the Timeline anyways, Since Venice has been reformed and streamlined into a normal C-Mon
Reatra wrote:Senkaku wrote:Hmmmmmm. You stand corrected.
I'm fine with the Malinese having very recently (not fifty fucking years ago) established a notBeiyang Army type thing a few years ago, but at this point rifles should not be common at all. They should probably be mostly using smoothbores (your notBeiyang guys, that is). And Mali still doesn't have much pressure from Europe to modernize, since the Europeans at this point are still sitting on the coast dying of malaria and yellow fever and Ebola.
You don't have to actually wank every nation you play, Reat.
Change this, and add much more detailed history, and you're accepted.
Alright, well I meant latest as in the latest in what the Europeans/Arabs can give us. And this isn't wanked too hard. I mean no Mongols means stronger Islam means more advanced Islam means more Muslims for me means more technology means Europe explores earlier to get Asian goods by going west or around Africa means earlier yet less insane need for slaves means I don't fall means West Africa doesn't experience its historical cataclysmic drop in population means a far more advanced and stable Mali.
by The imperial canadian dutchy » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:44 pm
Alleniana wrote:Senkaku wrote:Guys. Cut it out with the arguing, or at least spoiler it or take it to telegrams. You're cluttering the place up at this point.
That especially goes for Allen and Jon.
:c but it's productiveThe imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
Doesn't matter in the Timeline anyways, Since Venice has been reformed and streamlined into a normal C-Mon
Oh, hmm, alright. I guess Switzerland would still be happier with a former-republic-constitutional-monarchy than an absolute like there are in some other parts of the country.Liecthenbourg wrote:You Italians are amusing to watch bicker.
Britain laughs.
*suddenly Imperium Romanum*
*provincium Britannia*Reatra wrote:
Alright, well I meant latest as in the latest in what the Europeans/Arabs can give us. And this isn't wanked too hard. I mean no Mongols means stronger Islam means more advanced Islam means more Muslims for me means more technology means Europe explores earlier to get Asian goods by going west or around Africa means earlier yet less insane need for slaves means I don't fall means West Africa doesn't experience its historical cataclysmic drop in population means a far more advanced and stable Mali.
Eh, honestly, with regards to the whole issue, guns is no big deal. Lots of money, buy lots of good guns, fine, whatever. But without a modernised army structure, without people who know how to properly use and maintain and comprehend these guns, and to keep them in top shape and produce good ammunition, it's not very useful. You need an army suited to guns to use these guns, and people who can keep them working the way they're meant to, and Mali has neither. Furthermore, if they have them now, we can infer that big purchases are being made, which means considerably decreased amount of gold. Since they can't produce them, it also means that these very same guns will be worn out and backwards before soon, when a new purchase must be made, or they can go on with old pooey guns.
So, IMO, not really an issue, if Mali has the money, let them.The Jonathanian States wrote:Which reminds me:
OPs, what's the status on Holstein? Has the danish PU turned into a Scandinavian one? Or are they independent?
Also Hannover; British PU?
Reminded me this of Stephen Colbert.
by Fascist Republic Of Bermuda » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:47 pm
Application
Name: Republic of Nova Gallia/République de Nouvelle Gallia/Nova Gallia
Symbols: Flag (for cunning use)|Coat of Arms
Claims: 76
Power: Minor Power.
Government Structure: Federal Constitutional Presidential Republic
Ideology/Policy: Liberalism, Economic Interventionism, Nationalism
Leaders: President Pierre-Louis Castex
Vice President Joseph Papineau
Capital City: Québec City
Population: 1,750,000
Primary Ethnic Group: French-Canadian
Minority Ethnic Groups: Anglo-Canadian, Scandinavian, Native American
Description of Ethnicity: Nova Gallians are a mixture of Francophone and Anglophone Europeans. Natives exist, but are oppressed.
Language: French
Religion: A large majority of Nova Gallians are Roman Catholic. The biggest minority religion is the varying sects of Protestantism.
Foreign Relations: Pro-UK, Anti-France. Tense relations with Columbia over border disputes
Military Information: Largely equipped with smoothbores and older artillery, the outdated Nova Gallian military leaves much to be desired, but is competent for the tasks it does, largely policing the frontier. Divided into 4 Army Corps of about 10,000 each.
Army Size: 40,000 standing.
Navy Size: 1 Ship of the line
4 Brigs
7 Sloops
Economic Policy: Interventionism
Economic Situation: Decent. Not very industrialized, but retains several important natural resources, and is thus largely dependent on purchases of finished goods in exchange for Nova Gallia's vast natural resources.
Infrastructure: Decent in New France, Ontario, and Acadia. Both Rupertsland and Haute-Louisiane has abysmal infrastructure and are very rural.
Imports & Exports: Exports: Lumber, Maple Syrup, Coal, Moose products, Fish, Grain, Fur
Imports: Industrial Goods
Currency: Nova Gallian Livre
History: 1763: First Treaty of Paris signed. French and Indian War ends. Parts of New France ceded to the United Kingdom.
1776: Columbian Revolutionary War. New France used as springboard for French troops and supplies to Columbia.
1783: Second Treaty of Paris signed. Columbia free.
1786: Inspired by Columbia's freedom, talk of independence begins to circulate.
1789: French Revolution begins.
1791: Revolutionary committees form, seeking independence.
1792: French monarchy abolished. Colonial government struggles to maintain order.
1799: Napeolon Bonaparte seizes power in France. Colonial government declares its disagreement. Revolutionary ranks swell.
1800: French troops sent to maintain control of the colony. Governor hung for high treason, infuriating the populace.
1802: Battle of Sept-Îles first notable confrontation between French troops and colonial militias.
1803: Nova Gallia (so named by the declaration) officially declares independence. War breaks out. Revolutionaries receive funding from Coalition powers.
1812: After 9 grueling years of guerrilla warfare, French troops withdraw to prepare for Napoleon's invasion of Russia.
1813: Napoleon surrenders to Coalition via the Treaty of Chaumont. France, among other things, is forced to recognize Nova Gallia.
1815: Massive government restructuring. The Republic of Nova Gallia as we know it today emerges.
1819: Hudson Bay Purchase: Ontatio and Rupertsland bought from Great Britian. With it comes the land soon to be christened Haute-Louisiane.
1824: York Factory Agreement. Western provinces of Nova Gallia organized. York Factory renamed to Fort Bourbon.
Miscellaneous: divided into Provinces.
RP Example: Sure.
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by The imperial canadian dutchy » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:16 pm
Fascist Republic Of Bermuda wrote:Work in Progress.Application[/spoiler]
Name: Republic of Nova Gallia/République de Nouvelle Gallia/Nova Gallia
Symbols: Flag (for cunning use)|Coat of Arms
Claims: 76
Power: Minor Power.
Government Structure: Federal Constitutional Presidential Republic
Ideology/Policy: Liberalism, Economic Interventionism, Nationalism
Leaders: President Pierre-Louis Castex
Capital City: Québec City
Population: 1,750,000
Primary Ethnic Group: French-Canadian
Minority Ethnic Groups: Anglo-Canadian, Scandinavian, Native American
Description of Ethnicity: Nova Gallians are a mixture of Francophone and Anglophone Europeans. Natives exist, but are oppressed.
Language: French
Religion: A large majority of Nova Gallians are Roman Catholic. The biggest minority religion is the varying sects of Protestantism.
Foreign Relations:
Military Information:
Army Size:
Navy Size:
Economic Policy: Interventionism
Economic Situation:
Infrastructure:
Imports & Exports: Exports: Lumber, Maple Syrup, Coal, Moose products, Fish, Grain, Fur
Imports: Industrial Goods
Currency: Nova Gallian Livre
History: TBA (New France remains French, gains independence during Napoleonic Wars, purchases Rupert's Land from GB?)
Miscellaneous:
RP Example:
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by Rudaslavia » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:19 pm
Application
Name: Kingdom of Tuscany (Italian: Regno di Toscana)Demonym: Tuscan (Italian: toscano)
Symbols:
Claims: 34, with familial connections in the Papal States.
Power: Tertiary Power
Government Structure: Absolute monarchy, including a Crown-appointed "consiglio consultivo" of ministers. The kingdom is divided into ten administrative provinces: Arezzo, Florence (supervised directly by the sovereign), Grosseto, Livorno, Lucca, Massa and Carrara, Pisa, Pistoia, Prato, and Siena. The monarch assigns a title-holding governor to each province, but the majority of political influence lies with the Crown alone.
Ideology/Policy: Pan-Italianism, Italian nationalism, absolutism, economic and societal order, religious conformity, and technological development.
Leaders:King - Ignatius IV (Ignazio Maria Umberto de' Taura, House of Taura)
Capital City: Florence
Prime Minister - Ottone di Valerio (Ottone Teofilo di Valerio, Conte di Santa Fiora, House of Valerio)
Population: 2,877,736
Primary Ethnic Group: Italian (roughly 96%)
Minority Ethnic Groups: Swiss, French, Austrian
Description of Ethnicity: A historically cultured and artistic people whose homeland served as the beating heart of the Renaissance.
Language: Italian (Tuscan dialect)
Religion: Roman Catholicism, which is officially endorsed by the state. Although freedom of religion is a protected right, non-Catholics (Muslims in particular) are often persecuted behind closed doors.
Foreign Relations: Prior to the French Revolutionary Wars, Tuscany was largely uninvolved with foreign dealings outside of Italy. However, after regaining independence in 1814, the kingdom became engrossed Europe's economic affairs. Tuscany is usually classified as a neutral power. Its monetary interests lie with neutrality, and the Florentine government has done everything in its power to maintain such a status. But the reign of Ignatius IV has seen a substantial rise in Italian nationalism. Under Ignatius, Tuscany has renewed its positive ties with the other Italian states and hopes to unify Italy once more.
The Tuscan government's secretive persecution of non-Catholics has created tension with the Protestant nations of northern Europe. Said tensions have not yet caused serious repercussions, but some politicians (particularly in Germany) are growing irked with the situation. The King's aspirations of uniting Italy have also put him at odds with the Vatican, which aims to defend its unquestioned rule over the Papal States.
Pro: Kingdom of the Two Sicilies, Republic of Venice, Italian states (excluding the Papal States)
Friendly: Switzerland, Austro-Bavarian Empire
Neutral: Iberia, France, the Netherlands, Britain, Russia, most other nations
Tense: Kingdom of Prussia, Piedmont-Corsica (which it partially blames for the Napoleonic Wars), Epirus, most Islamic powers
Hostile: The Papal States
Military Information: In recent years, Tuscany has become famed for its powerful navy. Emulating sophisticated Anglo-Dutch designs, the Tuscan Royal Navy (Italian: Regia Marina Tuscano) utilizes its modernized ships to maintain a sphere of influence across Italy's northwestern coast. During the Napoleonic Wars, the ousted Tuscan government continuously harassed French forces at Corsica until Napoleon's abdication.
The Tuscan Royal Army (Italian: Regio Esercito Tuscano) is considerably smaller than its naval counterpart. The kingdom's modest population size limits its capacity for an immense land force. Therefore, Tuscan officials have taken to a "quality over quantity" military grade. As of 1835, the Royal Army is looking to replace its standard issue flintlock rifles with breech-loading weaponry.
King Ignatius has also acquired recognition for hiring the elite Swiss Guard of Tuscany (Italian: Guardia Svizzera della Toscana). Highly trained and attentively loyal, the Swiss Guard acts as His Majesty's own personal regiment (and, at times, his secret police force).
Army Size: The Tuscan Royal Army is comprised of approximately 6,840 active troops. It is divided into three distinct corps.
Navy Size: The Tuscan Royal Navy and its sister component, the Tuscan Royal Marines, comprise the majority of the kingdom's military force. Tuscany is a major naval power, and it boasts an imposing fleet for a state of its small size.
Economic Policy: As the birthplace of modern banking, Tuscany places great emphasis on the maintenance of a strong economy. The kingdom actively promotes foreign investment and provides banking services to manufacturers across the continent.
Economic Situation: The Kingdom of Tuscany is amongst the wealthiest states in Europe. Its smaller military demands less fiscal upkeep, allowing for the dispersal of more funds into the market. But despite the nation's great prosperity, most of the affluence is concentrated on the upper classes. While booming cities like Florence and Siena enjoy the fruits of economic success, many smaller municipalities have fallen victim to the cruelties of industrialization. As the years progress, the rich become richer and the poor poorer. There is a buzzing sensation of unrest amongst the lower classes...but at this time, the monarchy dismisses the notion of revolt as both unrealistic and unfeasible.
Infrastructure:
Imports & Exports:Imports: Gunpowder, Eastern/North African luxury goods, metals, New World crops (especially coffee beans)
Currency: Tuscan florin
Exports: Mediterranean crops, weaponry (mainly artillery and firearms), fine wines, horses
History:
Miscellaneous:
RP Example:
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by Baja California y Sonora » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:25 pm
Baja California y Sonora wrote:
by Alleniana » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:27 pm
Only things I can pick out are:by Reatra » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:32 pm
by The imperial canadian dutchy » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:38 pm
Alleniana wrote:
Yeah, I guess that's as good as Switzerland is going to get, isn't it?
Will you stay that way though?
Also, for the Americans, would it be fair to say that Switzerland has been a great influence on the republics of the New World? Also, hm, 1835, we're barely out of the hairiness of post-American-colonialism. All wars of independence concluded?
@Senkaku, I read your app, and I didn't object as much as I expected to
Why call it east-capital (Dongjing) when it's more westerly than both north-(Beijing) and south-capital(Nanjing)?
What was the motivation for conquering Somalia? I can see Zanzibar, being rich, but the Somalian land is pretty poor...
What are water tankers?
Surely the Mongols are a bit more martially inclined; they were renowned for picking up military technology as they went, and I can't imagine gunpowder would be any different, after a defeat or two
Is the ~70 million extra pop from food imports and expanded borders?
by Senkaku » Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:06 pm
Alleniana wrote:
Yeah, I guess that's as good as Switzerland is going to get, isn't it?
Will you stay that way though?
Also, for the Americans, would it be fair to say that Switzerland has been a great influence on the republics of the New World? Also, hm, 1835, we're barely out of the hairiness of post-American-colonialism. All wars of independence concluded?
@Senkaku, I read your app, and I didn't object as much as I expected to
Why call it east-capital (Dongjing) when it's more westerly than both north-(Beijing) and south-capital(Nanjing)?
What was the motivation for conquering Somalia? I can see Zanzibar, being rich, but the Somalian land is pretty poor...
What are water tankers?
Surely the Mongols are a bit more martially inclined; they were renowned for picking up military technology as they went, and I can't imagine gunpowder would be any different, after a defeat or two
Is the ~70 million extra pop from food imports and expanded borders?
by Alleniana » Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:14 pm
Senkaku wrote:Alleniana wrote:Yeah, I guess that's as good as Switzerland is going to get, isn't it?
Will you stay that way though?
Also, for the Americans, would it be fair to say that Switzerland has been a great influence on the republics of the New World? Also, hm, 1835, we're barely out of the hairiness of post-American-colonialism. All wars of independence concluded?
@Senkaku, I read your app, and I didn't object as much as I expected to
Why call it east-capital (Dongjing) when it's more westerly than both north-(Beijing) and south-capital(Nanjing)?
What was the motivation for conquering Somalia? I can see Zanzibar, being rich, but the Somalian land is pretty poor...
What are water tankers?
Surely the Mongols are a bit more martially inclined; they were renowned for picking up military technology as they went, and I can't imagine gunpowder would be any different, after a defeat or two
Is the ~70 million extra pop from food imports and expanded borders?
I would respond right now, but I've been accepted, I'm Vice-OP, and I'm about to have dinner with my family.
Maybe later, Allen. We can talk about this kind of thing in the HQ, not here.
by Altito Asmoro » Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:57 pm
Senkaku wrote:Why does Mali have the best gun tech in the world? I would imagine their main trading partner is the Mamluks (salt'n'gold caravans ftw), and the Europeans are all just barely sitting on the coast.
Other than that, I'd like to see a more detailed history.
Edit:
On a different subject, let me be clear- the Song will likely end up going to war against Nusantara. Both for political reasons in the court, and because it was going to happen sooner or later since there's nearly half a billion Chinese who kind of need more farmland.
by Altito Asmoro » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:07 pm
by Alleniana » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:23 pm
by Senkaku » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:01 pm
Alleniana wrote:
China; the best way I could imagine to defeat it is naval superiority. IIRC, it doesn't have a lot of little, nippy manoeuverable ships, and anyway, European navies are probably at least equal. Bombard the Mekong and prevent grain from getting through; in fact, you might not even need naval superiority. Just have a lot of privateers and things, base them out of the Philippines, Ryukyu, Korea and other hard-to-reach/access places, and frustrate their trade ships. Unlike, for example, the Spanish empire in the Americas, the Chinese one provides food and is vital to its survival. If Japan, Nusantara and the British teamed up, and simultaneously incited revolts and blocked shipping routes, China would be forced to come to terms lest it go into famine. Of course, it could really ramp up its ship production, which the British couldn't keep up with due to being so far away and having other commitments, but anyway, that's how I'd do it. Frustrate rice imports, incite enemies, poke at the giant until it can't stand it any longer.
Strategically easier than the Swiss uniting Germany
by Conwy-Shire » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:08 pm
Kisinger wrote:I have to drop Hungary for the moment because every time I fucking join an RP shit always happens....
Fuck you life!
by Jaslandia » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:20 pm
Kisinger wrote:I have to drop Hungary for the moment because every time I fucking join an RP shit always happens....
Fuck you life!
by The imperial canadian dutchy » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:27 pm
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