Tales of Two Horizons OOC-Open

[Jaslandia]

Calt dropped Japan.

You want me to be Japan.

Facing off against that China.

Lul fuk no.

What about Serbia? It's a pretty large and powerful nation.

[Lunas Legion]

You want me to be Japan.

Facing off against that China.

Lul fuk no.

What about Serbia? It's a pretty large and powerful nation.

It's bordered by the Hungary-blob which can and will clobber the crap out of it though.

[Jaslandia]

What about Serbia? It's a pretty large and powerful nation.

It's bordered by the Hungary-blob which can and will clobber the crap out of it though.

Hey, I'm Epirus and I'm expecting a declaration of war before I even put my first IC post up, but you don't see me complaining. But seriously, Serbia is one of the two major powers still open in Europe (the other one being Iberia). Some small states like Hamburg, Weimar, and Holstein are also open, and most of South America is still open.

[Senkaku]

Calt dropped Japan.

You want me to be Japan.

Facing off against that China.

Lul fuk no.

Facing off? Who said anything about facing off?

[The Jonathanian States]

It's bordered by the Hungary-blob which can and will clobber the crap out of it though.

Hey, I'm Epirus and I'm expecting a declaration of war before I even put my first IC post up, but you don't see me complaining. But seriously, Serbia is one of the two major powers still open in Europe (the other one being Iberia). Some small states like Hamburg, Weimar, and Holstein are also open, and most of South America is still open.

>Serbia
>Major

ICD, if you're interested in carrying on the discussion we can move it somewhere else, just tell me where and I'll deliver you my response.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Hey, I'm Epirus and I'm expecting a declaration of war before I even put my first IC post up, but you don't see me complaining. But seriously, Serbia is one of the two major powers still open in Europe (the other one being Iberia). Some small states like Hamburg, Weimar, and Holstein are also open, and most of South America is still open.

>Serbia
>Major

ICD, if you're interested in carrying on the discussion we can move it somewhere else, just tell me where and I'll deliver you my response.

tg is fine

>Serbia
>Expert Kebab Removers

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

Who to align myself with... France seems good. Is anyone playing France? I need help beating up Valencia and Catalonia.

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

Apparently France doesn't like Catalonia and Valencia, and likes me. Perfect. France, help me beat up Catalonia and Valencia and Milan to complete my dream of Greater Genoa-Savoy.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Apparently France doesn't like Catalonia and Valencia, and likes me. Perfect. France, help me beat up Catalonia and Valencia and Milan to complete my dream of Greater Genoa-Savoy.

Touch Milan and our merchants will have a very bad talk with you.

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

Apparently France doesn't like Catalonia and Valencia, and likes me. Perfect. France, help me beat up Catalonia and Valencia and Milan to complete my dream of Greater Genoa-Savoy.

Touch Milan and our merchants will have a very bad talk with you.

You cannot get in the way of Genoan Irridentism. Milan is already economically owned by us at this point, and will become part of Greater Genoa-Savoy.

[Liecthenbourg]

Touch Milan and our merchants will have a very bad talk with you.

You cannot get in the way of Genoan Irridentism. Milan is already economically owned by us at this point, and will become part of Greater Genoa-Savoy.

You Italians are amusing to watch bicker.
Britain laughs.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

You cannot get in the way of Genoan Irridentism. Milan is already economically owned by us at this point, and will become part of Greater Genoa-Savoy.

You Italians are amusing to watch bicker.
Britain laughs.

Britain plz naval buddies

[Liecthenbourg]

You Italians are amusing to watch bicker.
Britain laughs.

Britain plz naval buddies

I could consider it.

TG me your opinions of the various European powers; then we'll talk.

[Reatra]

Why does Mali have the best gun tech in the world? I would imagine their main trading partner is the Mamluks (salt'n'gold caravans ftw), and the Europeans are all just barely sitting on the coast.

Other than that, I'd like to see a more detailed history.


Edit:

On a different subject, let me be clear- the Song will likely end up going to war against Nusantara. Both for political reasons in the court, and because it was going to happen sooner or later since there's nearly half a billion Chinese who kind of need more farmland.

Definitely not best in the world at all, just only barely behind.

[Yaana Noore]

Apparently France doesn't like Catalonia and Valencia, and likes me. Perfect. France, help me beat up Catalonia and Valencia and Milan to complete my dream of Greater Genoa-Savoy.

Beating up Catalonia is most agreeable.

[Liecthenbourg]

Apparently France doesn't like Catalonia and Valencia, and likes me. Perfect. France, help me beat up Catalonia and Valencia and Milan to complete my dream of Greater Genoa-Savoy.

Beating up Catalonia is most agreeable.

Did you mention something about a Pro-Britain Foreign Minister?

That wont sit well with him

[Lunas Legion]

You want me to be Japan.

Facing off against that China.

Lul fuk no.

Facing off? Who said anything about facing off?

You're an Asian land power with lots of resources.

Japan's a resource-strapped Asian sea power.

Yeah, there's going to be tension, if not outright war.

>Serbia
>Major

ICD, if you're interested in carrying on the discussion we can move it somewhere else, just tell me where and I'll deliver you my response.

tg is fine

>Serbia
>Expert Kebab Removers

There's no kebab to remove though. If there were kebab within removal range, I would be Serbia, but there is no kebab to remove from Serbia.

[Yaana Noore]

Beating up Catalonia is most agreeable.

Did you mention something about a Pro-Britain Foreign Minister?

That wont sit well with him

Pro-British foreign minister? You're forgetting the Pro-British King and Prime Minister. Who says a cordial understanding can't be reached?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

hon hon señor France gib louisiane

[Senkaku]

Why does Mali have the best gun tech in the world? I would imagine their main trading partner is the Mamluks (salt'n'gold caravans ftw), and the Europeans are all just barely sitting on the coast.

Other than that, I'd like to see a more detailed history.


Edit:

On a different subject, let me be clear- the Song will likely end up going to war against Nusantara. Both for political reasons in the court, and because it was going to happen sooner or later since there's nearly half a billion Chinese who kind of need more farmland.

Definitely not best in the world at all, just only barely behind.

Military Information: A rifle-armed and trained force
The New Model Army is only about five decades old
Army Size: the latest in gun technology

Hmmmmmm. You stand corrected.

I'm fine with the Malinese having very recently (not fifty fucking years ago) established a notBeiyang Army type thing a few years ago, but at this point rifles should not be common at all. They should probably be mostly using smoothbores (your notBeiyang guys, that is). And Mali still doesn't have much pressure from Europe to modernize, since the Europeans at this point are still sitting on the coast dying of malaria and yellow fever and Ebola.
You don't have to actually wank every nation you play, Reat.

Change this, and add much more detailed history, and you're accepted.

[Senkaku]

Facing off? Who said anything about facing off?

You're an Asian land power with lots of resources.

Japan's a resource-strapped Asian sea power.

Yeah, there's going to be tension, if not outright war.

To be fair, China is also Asia's pre-eminent sea power.

But after Kublai tried twice and failed, they've had the good sense to mostly leave Japan alone. The Japanese don't really hurt them- Japan probably actually has enough of a niche to try and open to the world or build a little empire without the Chinese getting on their case. They're far more concerned with the steppe, India, Nusantara, etc.

[Lunas Legion]

You're an Asian land power with lots of resources.

Japan's a resource-strapped Asian sea power.

Yeah, there's going to be tension, if not outright war.

To be fair, China is also Asia's pre-eminent sea power.

But after Kublai tried twice and failed, they've had the good sense to mostly leave Japan alone. The Japanese don't really hurt them- Japan probably actually has enough of a niche to try and open to the world or build a little empire without the Chinese getting on their case. They're far more concerned with the steppe, India, Nusantara, etc.

The problem is everywhere that Japan can go that has actual value, China will be there first.

Besides, I've been... Persuaded to do Conquistador II: Electric Boogaloo, a.k.a Spain Stronk Liberate Colonies.

[Caltarania]

To be fair, China is also Asia's pre-eminent sea power.

But after Kublai tried twice and failed, they've had the good sense to mostly leave Japan alone. The Japanese don't really hurt them- Japan probably actually has enough of a niche to try and open to the world or build a little empire without the Chinese getting on their case. They're far more concerned with the steppe, India, Nusantara, etc.

The problem is everywhere that Japan can go that has actual value, China will be there first.

Besides, I've been... Persuaded to do Conquistador II: Electric Boogaloo, a.k.a Spain Stronk Liberate Colonies.

kek

[Lunas Legion]

The problem is everywhere that Japan can go that has actual value, China will be there first.

Besides, I've been... Persuaded to do Conquistador II: Electric Boogaloo, a.k.a Spain Stronk Liberate Colonies.

kek

U wot m9?

[Reatra]

Definitely not best in the world at all, just only barely behind.

Military Information: A rifle-armed and trained force
The New Model Army is only about five decades old
Army Size: the latest in gun technology

Hmmmmmm. You stand corrected.

I'm fine with the Malinese having very recently (not fifty fucking years ago) established a notBeiyang Army type thing a few years ago, but at this point rifles should not be common at all. They should probably be mostly using smoothbores (your notBeiyang guys, that is). And Mali still doesn't have much pressure from Europe to modernize, since the Europeans at this point are still sitting on the coast dying of malaria and yellow fever and Ebola.
You don't have to actually wank every nation you play, Reat.

Change this, and add much more detailed history, and you're accepted.

Alright, well I meant latest as in the latest in what the Europeans/Arabs can give us. And this isn't wanked too hard. I mean no Mongols means stronger Islam means more advanced Islam means more Muslims for me means more technology means Europe explores earlier to get Asian goods by going west or around Africa means earlier yet less insane need for slaves means I don't fall means West Africa doesn't experience its historical cataclysmic drop in population means a far more advanced and stable Mali.