1850 : Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC][CLOSED]

[Kosovo12345]

You know what. Everything I said, take that and put it inow the trash. Give me.places that are open

[Oscalantine]

Hello, is someone want to answer my question?

Hello. Just answered. Sure. I shall reserve Japan.... and then what?

[Mandicoria]

You can be the colonial territories (Haiti, Greenland, Bermuda, the Azores) if you want. It'd relieve a big burden if someone else could control the militias and diplomacy of the colonies. XD

I was thinking an expanded Swedish Pomerania if that's not claimed yet, or maybe an autonomous Baltic state.

Oh, well, the only area really considered a Sattelite (And even then, it's just an area with good autonomy levels) is Copenhagen.

[Of the Quendi]

Sorry if I snapped at you, dude. But I specified the ONLY rule that I had in the OP, and that was to have a terrific history. You metaphorically spat at my rules and this very RP when you didn't write history section... I didn't realize you did it out of necessity.

Again, if Kenny isn't going to go through with it, I can reserve Russia for you. I hate allowing one nation to hoard so much land... but I am fine as long as Kenny is willing to give up his reserve.

And I will write a perfectly fine history. But writing a history independent of what is in other people's histories doesn't make any sense. If I write in my history that Russia invaded China in 1781 and badly defeated it and someone applies for China and writes that in 1781 China was in a golden age ruled by its greatest emperor ever thats a problem. By keeping the history blank to start with I am trying to not push my history down anyone's throat but be flexible about what my country would or would not be.

[The New Byzantine II]

I have a question, is it okay if Japan unite into an empire 20 years earlier?

I am allowing a LOT of things. Japan becoming imperial 20 years earlier is fine as long as it is good history.

BUT... do keep in mind that a lot of claims are occurring. Take a look and ask me what kind of territories you would like.

Well, I would like to reserve as Japan but if it's reserved already, I might play as Sublime State of Persia or an Iberian Union between Portugal and Spain.

[Oscalantine]

You know what. Everything I said, take that and put it inow the trash. Give me.places that are open

Hmmm... hold up. I am having trouble with reserves myself. So much people just bombarded me today and I have NO clue if I need to revise the reserve map. Brb.

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All land claims for a bit is first-come-first serve. Meaning that even if I did not approve of the reserve, any reserve from this point onwards will be considered reserved unless I say otherwise.

... sorry, gotta figure out which land has been reserved while I was out reading Bible. ... ... .. and make my Guidance... and revise the map... all that junk.

If someone wants to help by through Co-OP, drop me a TG. That would be seriously helpful with keeping reserves in check.

[Benuty]

I am allowing a LOT of things. Japan becoming imperial 20 years earlier is fine as long as it is good history.

BUT... do keep in mind that a lot of claims are occurring. Take a look and ask me what kind of territories you would like.

Well, I would like to reserve as Japan but if it's reserved already, I might play as Sublime State of Persia or an Iberian Union between Portugal and Spain.

The problem with Iberia currently is that the Andalusians are the dominant force within the area, and they control possibly 70% or more the land there.

[Oscalantine]

I am allowing a LOT of things. Japan becoming imperial 20 years earlier is fine as long as it is good history.

BUT... do keep in mind that a lot of claims are occurring. Take a look and ask me what kind of territories you would like.

Well, I would like to reserve as Japan but if it's reserved already, I might play as Sublime State of Persia or an Iberian Union between Portugal and Spain.

YOU ARE RESERVED AS JAPAN.

Man, everyone is confused nowadays

[Oscalantine]

Sorry if I snapped at you, dude. But I specified the ONLY rule that I had in the OP, and that was to have a terrific history. You metaphorically spat at my rules and this very RP when you didn't write history section... I didn't realize you did it out of necessity.

Again, if Kenny isn't going to go through with it, I can reserve Russia for you. I hate allowing one nation to hoard so much land... but I am fine as long as Kenny is willing to give up his reserve.

And I will write a perfectly fine history. But writing a history independent of what is in other people's histories doesn't make any sense. If I write in my history that Russia invaded China in 1781 and badly defeated it and someone applies for China and writes that in 1781 China was in a golden age ruled by its greatest emperor ever thats a problem. By keeping the history blank to start with I am trying to not push my history down anyone's throat but be flexible about what my country would or would not be.

I understand that there will be a paradox, but that's what AH is good for... assume normal history unless stated, and let's just have fun without weird spacetime conundrum issue ^^

[Princess Kenny]

Well, that escalated quickly while I was busy eating.

I'll just reserve Russia for now, at the moment I'll be thinking of AH ideas for Russia.

[Oscalantine]

Well, that escalated quickly while I was busy eating.

I'll just reserve Russia for now, at the moment I'll be thinking of AH ideas for Russia.

Good. Reserved. This has been the most hectic 10 minutes of my OP life in this thread XDDD

[Kosovo12345]

Alright, I'm saving Greece that includes constanople

[The Union of Courland]

Guidance Name : Fall of the French Kingdom
Guidance Description : The French Revolution and Reign of Terror befalls France and spread into Brittany, causing many royals to be executed or lynched. In France, it results in the death of the French Monarchy and the retreat of the House of Orleans, also it's near collapse. In Brittany, it resulted in he death of the curent ruling House in Brittany, which in turn result use in the House of Orleans establishing itself in Brittany after leaving France.
Affected Area : Mostly France and Brittany, but also spread liberal idea throughout Europe.

[Mandicoria]

Alright, I'm saving Greece that includes constanople

I do believe that was already reserved.

[Tracian Empire]

Alright, I'm saving Greece that includes constanople

I do believe that was already reserved.

My app will come asap. Fear the glorious Roman Empire!

[Oscalantine]

Alright, I'm saving Greece that includes constanople

I do believe that was already reserved.

I just added that... Someone wanted to be Byzantium

[Benuty]

Full Nation Name : The American Commonwealth
Majority/Official Culture : Anglo-American
Territorial Core :
http://i.imgur.com/QxsvU1h.png (The portion which occupies the Eastern part of what would be the U.S obviously).
Territorial Claim : None at the moment
Capital City : Philadelphia, Commonwealth Province
Population : 19.35 million

Government Type : Parliamentarian Republicanism
Government Ideology/Policies : To maintain the preservation, and the interests of the Commonwealth
Government Focus : To preserve their independence while expanding relations with fellow nations in the Americas, and also restoring relations with the Homeland. A greater goal of working towards the end of international slavery is present as well. Also potentially fund independence movements within colonies that are being exploited.
Head of State : Governor-General Lewis Cass
Head of Government : Lord Protector (the title Oliver Cromwell used lol) Martin Van Buren
Government Description : The government is based off the Parliamentarian system of Westminister, but in a modified form since the Commonwealth focuses on a separation of powers principle. The executive is often a ceremonial position due to the government being an infusion of the real life Articles of Confederation, New Jersey Plan, and the ideals of the Enlightenment during revolutionary France. The Commonwealth is somewhat a confederation due to the diversity of functions each province deals with especially in how their own governments are formatted. While the legislature is the most powerful branch of the government it is kept in line by the parties, and the voters.

Majority/State Religion : Secularism discourages an official government religion.
Economic Ideologies : Encouragingly capitalistic with tones of moderate government intervention, and control.
Major Production : Agricultural products typically come from the Southern Provinces which have thankfully diversified from the Cotton monopoly. New England is famous for its mercantile trade navies, fisheries, and lumber mills. Meanwhile Industrialization has spread across the provinces of the Ohio river valley, and throughout the Northern Provinces. Mining is turning out to be dominant in the province of Sylvania (Western Virginia) along with Kentucky, Pennsylvania, and Franklin (eastern Tennessee).
Economic Description : An economic powerhouse in certain areas yet while railroads have increasingly interconnected the country certain areas are either undeveloped for reasons unknown or intentionally.

Army Strength : The Army for the protection of the Commonwealth has its roots dating back all the way to Oliver Cromwell since they were formed out of the remnants of Cromwell's private army. A disciplined force of 30,000 is divided into armies of 5,000 stationed across the various dominions (region grouping of provinces). There also 50,000 registered militia members across the various parts of the Commonwealth.
Army Weakness : The officer corp is divided between the older more conservative bureaucracy, and the younger more politically active youth. There is also conflict due to wealthy members of society being able to purchase ranks (which was a real thing in Britain), and those who entered in through more traditional ways. The Commonwealth militia can be summoned by Parliament, but the provinces can refuse to let them assemble or direct where they can actually go
Naval Strength : While the armies may have suffered defeat in the civil war the navy had a different story. Unfortunately with the war lost many of the ships were used in the mass exodus which took tens of thousands to the American colonies over a series of months. Part of this fleet would go on to form the Merchant Navy while the other formed the Naval Forces of the Commonwealth. The naval fleet size is officially around 70 ships of various categories in total.

Naval Weakness : While not as problematic the officer corp is still regimented in their traditions, and mannerisms. Certain ships crews will sometimes impress (force) locals of the ports they visits as workers for the ship. There are times where crews will go rogue, and turn to pirating or helping the slavers in Africa.
Further Military Description : Unlike certain areas of civil society the military has been able to integrate the Native, and African units with that of the majority populace despite the domineering conservative way of thinking. There is also some debate on the issue of working with non government militias since those type of organizations aren't held to strict standards like the ones owned by the provinces.

National Goals : To create a transcontinental railway that will connect the East, and the West. Also spreading that rail system throughout the entirety of the Americas as a sign of cooperation with their neighbors. To ensure the death of slavery within the Americas by underground movements, and the spread of abolitionism while also inspiring those oppressed by restrictive government or denied the right to suffrage.

National Issues :
1) Addressing the spread of Marxist, and Socialist ideology, and literature throughout the Commonwealth by ensuring the country isn't threatened from instability.
2) Working to solve the problem of contracted servitude within the Southern provinces since the freedman are slaves in all, but name. There is a movement to guarantee greater rights not just for them, but other minorities as well, and solve the issue of voting rights.
3) Keep the peace in the Native Territorial Province to prevent conflicts between the Native tribal civilizations, and the settlers coming in through illegal means to exploit the land.
4) Focus on the building of a Transcontinental Railroad to unite North America, and then expand it southward.

National Figures of Interest : Karl Marx, and Friedrich Engels have come to the Commonwealth, and have begun spreading their ideology amongst the literate freedman, and those who view the system of contracted servitude as slavery in all, but name. Debate clubs, and literature societies along with newspapers have spread across the Commonwealth, and society is entering a new era as the Springtime of Nations dies. I will reveal others as the plot progresses within the role play.

National Ambition/Aspirations : Spread the ideals of the Commonwealth not by conquest, but rather through exchange of ideals. Also ensure the security of their neighbors, and those civilizations often regarded as primitive.

History :
1) War against the tyranny of Charles I (1642-1646)
2) The Great Exodus (1646-1650)
3) Surviving in this vast land. (1647-1649)
4) Forming a new country a better one (1646-1650)
5) Declaration of the Commonwealth (1646)
6) Era of Silence (1646-1850) *Hopefully it will end this year
7) The Young Parliament (1646-1650)
8 ) The Golden Parliament (1650-1710)
9) The Quebec Company Crisis (1700-1710)
10) The Intermediate Parliament (1710-1750)
11) Treaty of Oglethorpe concerning the future of the Native Civilizations (1732)
12) The Enlightened Parliament (1750-1810)
14) The Reactionary Parliament (1810-1825)
15) The Great Debate of Slavery (1810-1840)
16) The Moderate Parliament (1825-1840)
17) The Liberal Parliament (1840-1850)

Comparison Points – Political : 3
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 1
Comparison Points – Economy : 3
Comparison Points – Military : 3
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : /10

That ten point system a great way to ensure a nation would have to commit suicide in order to benefit at all.

[Kosovo12345]

That's it! Im.Mexico

[Oscalantine]

For the sake of... all things holy... because everyone seems to be unable to fight off desire to conquer Korea...

I'll do Korea, and I'll try to keep justice to what it does. I'll keep the old territory +Korea, and I'll try my best to explain things.

[Oscalantine]

That's it! Im.Mexico

YES! You shall be reserved! And NOT a moment too late, since I am updating map now!

[Benuty]

That's it! Im.Mexico

As in traditional Mexico or a former colony of another nation?

[Oscalantine]

For now... I just reserved Modern day Mexico in of itself. Tell me if you want anything more, and I'll add'em to the pile in next patch of map

[The Union of Courland]

For now... I just reserved Modern day Mexico in of itself. Tell me if you want anything more, and I'll add'em to the pile in next patch of map

Could you make the map more obvious? I'm having a hard time finding my claims.

[Kosovo12345]

Mexico and if app acdepted, Texas

[Oscalantine]

For now... I just reserved Modern day Mexico in of itself. Tell me if you want anything more, and I'll add'em to the pile in next patch of map

Could you make the map more obvious? I'm having a hard time finding my claims.

Actually, I am graying them out in purpose. to distinguish them from real applications that will come later. When I accept your app, I will color them in using brighter colors and give you capital and name and the whole works.

Mind you... I am getting closer to doing yours. I just want to get my own stuff straightened out before I attempt to fix everyone else's.

Speaking of... uploading latest version of map now... let me know if there are anything that looks odd to you.