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Postby Bhikkustan » Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:52 pm

Full Nation Name : The Kingdom of Siam
Majority/Official Culture : [[What your people identify themselves with… French, Chinese, Iroquois, Touareg, etc.]] Southeast Asian with a few Europeans.
Territorial Core : [[place where you have absolute control over]] Thailand and any left over neighbours.
Territorial Claim : [[OPTIONAL]] [[region NOT your core where your nation’s ambition lies]] all of Southeast Asia and the Philippines
Capital City : [[Its IRL location and name]] Ahyuttha
Population : 18 million

Government Type : [[Monarchy, Republic, etc.]] monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Militant, Imperialist, Expansionist, etc.]] Compassionate and nationalistic, quite expansionist.
Government Focus : [[Tell me a little bit about what is your government’s focus… be it military, economy, culture, legitimacy, etc.]] Our governments focus is to bring Siam to the fore of world superpowers, and usher Asia into an age of peace and Buddhist enlightenment. They focus on welfare and education, while keeping defence well funded.
Head of State : [[highest-ranking individual in the nation according to rule of law]] King Rama III
Head of Government : [[highest-ranking defacto ruler]] King Rama III
Government Description : The government is ruled by the king, and they are very concerned for the people. They are not corrupt, and have a medium government size. The people vote in a president from two candidates, and they are made sure that they are fanatically loyal to the king.

Majority/State Religion : [[OPTIONAL]] [[It does not have to be IRL religion]] Buddhism.
Religious Description : [[OPTIONAL]] The population of Siam are fervently buddhist, and there are many great temples spread out across the land. The bishops and abbots of the temples hold significant power, but do not abuse it.

Economic Ideologies : [[Capitalism, Mercantilism, Socialism, Communism, etc.]] The people are very centrist, allowing anyone to set up small business, but supporting those who fail.
Major Production : Seafood and rice, agricultural.
Economic Description : The economy of Siam is well run, with significant government funding and support. The economy is led by the fishing industry, and the bay of Thailand is full of fishing ships. There is also a lot of farming, with rice being a major export. On a domestic scale, many people own small carts and businesses, and hawkers are common.

Army Strength : with 180,000 men filled with nationalistic pride, the infantry are rightfully feared. They are also very well trained, and very able in melee. They are nearly fanatically loyal, and will hardly ever flee, even in the face of impossible odds. There are also 500,000 civilian militia, who take up arms when the nation is in danger.
Army Weakness : The army is quite outdated, and this is reflected in their artillery, with many outdated cannons.
Naval Strength : The navy is large for the size of the nation, and has natural harbours. There are 100 ships of the line, and many smaller ships.
Naval Weakness : As with the army, the ships are relatively outdated.
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]] The Siamese military is a matter of national pride. They all wear brilliant purple uniforms with golden silk lining, and distinct helmets which have been nicknamed dragonhelms. All soldiers are fanatically loyal and brave to the point of insanity. They are very well trained, ably making up for their old equipment. Each man is also armed with a steel sword, giving them the edge against most foes. This blade has been their saviour in many battles in which they are simply outgunned by more modern weapons. Several men also wield glaives, to stave off cavalry charges.

National Goals : to bring peace and prosperity to Southeast Asia.
National Issues : [[what needs to be fixed in order for your nation to achieve its true potential]] The kingdom has few allies, and need some more. Also, they need to modernise their army.
National Figures of Interest : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]] General Kaijon. A brilliant tactical commander, he leads the Siamese army in there battles. A respected leader, he leads with the same hardships as his men.
National Ambition/Aspirations : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]] To become an empire to last for all time.

History : [[Can be in paragraph or bulletpoint timeline.]]
-1350: the Khmer empire falls, and King Rammet took over much of Thailand and Southeast Asia.
-1400: after wars with neighbouring states, the Rammetian kingdom took over more land, growing into a larger state.
-1450: the kingdom moves its capital to Ayutthaya, and rename themselves the Kingdom of Siam.
-1530-1532: Dutch settlers attempt to invade during an event known as the Dutch wars. The Dutch are eventually repulsed during the battle of Sathorn, giving national pride and proving the young Kingdom in the field of battle. A Dutch viewer during the battle of Sathorn quoted that "as our men attacked the Siamese line, the air reported with the crack of thousands of muskets, and our men quailed with fear as they advanced. Their artillery, placed on the crest of a nearby hill, ploughed cannonballs deep through our tightly packed men. They advanced, and soon our position was enveloped by these fanatical soldiers, each one armed with a short sword. Our men broke, and Duke Hans himself was cut down in the ensuing rout. It was a dark day in Dutch history, and invading Siam was a mistake we will not commit again."
-1600: the Kingdom makes trade deals with neighbouring states, forging an age of economic growth.
-1630: the Kingdom defeats a Burmese invasion, and takes Burmese land. (Main point of divergence)
-1750: the Siamese army purchased thousands of muskets from china, in an attempt to modernise their military. Most of these muskets are still in active service today.
-1800: The kingdom once again turns its eye to expansion, and takes a little ground.
-1841: King Rama III ascends to the throne at the age of 30, and brings cultural reforms and welfare to the people of Siam.
Comparison Points – Political : [[How much national focus is gone into administrating the government, i.e. espionage, royal marriages, counter-intelligence, etc.]] 1
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : [[How much national focus is gone into religious and or cultural aspects, i.e. asking for excommunication, call for crusade, soviet revolution in other nations, etc.]] 4
Comparison Points – Economy : [[How much national focus is gone into economic matters, i.e. embargo/blockade efficiency, lasting through war of attrition, simply feeding your people better, etc.]] 3
Comparison Points – Military : [[How much national focus is gone into military, i.e. discipline, morale, better tacticians/generals, etc.]] 2
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10
Will add more if necessary.
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Postby Oscalantine » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:42 pm

Awesome~! Welcome to the RP... but I need a few things from you first.

History is... well, as much as I should not question the form of quantity, it is lacking a lot of words. Could you take a look at other apps and give a bit more meat to your history?

Next... I suppose it is because of lack of history, but I don't understand what was the point of divergence. What made your nation AH compared to IRL Siam? What makes it unique? No nation in this RP is quite like its IRL counterparts... France is a republic, Korea has an empire, Rome exists, Papacy took control of Italy, Hansa has unified Germany, GB has denounced Catholicism for Druidism... or something, China has a new dynasty after Mongol Empire which existed for centuries before finally dissolving, Japan has earlier empire under a different modernization method, so on and so forth.

Finally... this is optional, but... take a look at my RP rules and how I decide the victor of wars and battles. Your army strength and navy strength and weakness is a bit lackluster, leading to a problem where you may not be able to compete with other nations should your land is besieged or you are invading another nation.
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Postby Eurasian Hegemony » Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:47 pm

Sooooooo what did I miss?

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Postby Fridur » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:20 am

I'm guessing the areas for CSA are taken?

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Postby Bhikkustan » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:56 am

Oscalantine wrote:Awesome~! Welcome to the RP... but I need a few things from you first.

History is... well, as much as I should not question the form of quantity, it is lacking a lot of words. Could you take a look at other apps and give a bit more meat to your history?

Next... I suppose it is because of lack of history, but I don't understand what was the point of divergence. What made your nation AH compared to IRL Siam? What makes it unique? No nation in this RP is quite like its European counterparts... France is a republic, Korea has an empire, Rome exists, Papacy took control of Italy, Hansa has unified Germany, GB has denounced Catholicism for Druidism... or something, China has a new dynasty after Mongol Empire which existed for centuries before finally dissolving, Japan has earlier empire under a different modernization method, so on and so forth.

Finally... this is optional, but... take a look at my RP rules and how I decide the victor of wars and battles. Your army strength and navy strength and weakness is a bit lackluster, leading to a problem where you may not be able to compete with other nations should your land is besieged or you are invading another nation.

I will fix these, thanks for your help. :bow:

Edit: fixed, the point of divergence is they were established earlier and won the war against Burma and won a war against Dutch colonialists.
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Postby Conwy-Shire » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:23 am

Here we go;
Full Nation Name : Karaļvalsts Kurzeme (Latvian) - The Kingdom of Courland
Majority/Official Culture : Couronian
Territorial Core : http://imgur.com/7nb62JI.jpg (Estonia, Latvia, Pskov, Ingria, St Helena, Mauritius & Reunion, ile de Mateba)
Territorial Claim : http://i.imgur.com/MYpAxey.jpg (I know this is extensive and threatens a great many nations, but this only delineates how far Courland would expand if it had the choice to annex as much land as it wanted to without repercussions)
Capital City : Mitau (IRL Jelgava)
Population :
European: ~ 3,454,300 (Latvia, Estonia and Finland) [using populstat]
Colonial: ~ 46,765,600 (Nigeria, Madagascar, Bengal) [using populstat]

Government Type : Administrative Monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies : Imperialistic
Government Focus : Technology, Military, Navy
Head of State : Friedrich Casimir von Biron
Head of Government : Friedrich Casimir von Biron
Government Description :
An absolute monarchy where upon succession a new sovereign dictates which areas of government will be allotted to bureaucrats and administrative peers, which can be added to or retracted at the sovereign's discretion. This gives the head of state absolute power in all things, limited only by their personal focus and issues facing the kingdom at the time.

Majority/State Religion : Couronian Protestantism
Religious Description : based on the Ninety-Five Theses and English Reformation, with the Archbishop of Riga as the foremost of the Couronian clergy.

Economic Ideologies : Capitalist, fairly Mercantile but with a nominally free market, Rural Isolationism (economic) pervades the eastern reaches
Major Production : Maritime supplies, agricultural products, Iron, Textiles, Military equipment
Colonial Production: Lumber, Precious Metals
Economic Description : on-par with the majority of European states, yet slightly weaker than powerhouses such as the Hanseatic Federation

Army Strength : The Couronian Armed Forces are extremely well trained, and armed with weapons produced in Courland by national institutions; they are also extremely well-suited to winter warfare and have almost unlimited supply-lines within Courland. The CAF also hold to an entrenched tradition, utilising small numbers of primitive mechanical guns and skilled engineer corps, dating to the days of the Livonian brothers of the sword, stressing the elite and verbose nature of the Army.
Army Weakness : Deep divide between the Home armies and colonial armies
Naval Strength : Blue-Water Navy, National Rating system, well organised and staffed (7,000 Naval personnel)
Naval Weakness : Small, late steel-and-sail era
Army Equipment:
The Couronian Armed forces employ the Biron Model 6, or the BM-6 Gewehr, which utilises a front-to-rear combustion pattern, bolt-action loading system; the Rifle in many ways resembles the French Chassepot. The BM-6 Gewehr is the standard issue rifle in the CAF, with limited circulation in the Couronian Navy amongst a small sub-caste of 'marines'. The single-shot mechanism requires extensive reloading, and as such the standard field-dress for infantry includes a row of cartidge-holders running down the inside of the rifleman's left sleeve; it is integrated into the sleeve so that a rifleman can aim, use the bolt-action, and re-place a cartridge into the Gewehr with minimal movement and in a fluid action.
Military Organisation :
Home Armies: 34,543 soldiers

Army Group Goldingen
- The 1st Line Infantry Division (3,000 men)
- The 2nd Line Infantry Division (3,000 men)
- The 3rd Line Infantry Division (3,000 men)
- The 1st Chevalier Corps (2,000 men)
- The 1st Mobile emplacement Corps (1,500)
11,500

Army Group Pskov
- The 4th Line Infantry Division (3,000 men)
- The 1st Foot Guards Division (2,000 men)
- The 2nd Foot Guards Division (2,000 men)
- The 3rd Foot Guards Division (2,000 men)
- The 2nd Chevaliers Corps (1,500 men)
- The 2nd Mobile emplacement Corps (1,000 men)
11,500

Army Group Ingria
- The 5th Line Infantry Division (3,000 men)
- The 1st Hussar Regiment (1,000 men)
- The 2nd Hussar Regiment (1,500 men)
- The 1st Royal Fusiliers (3,000 men)
- The 2nd Royal Fusiliers (3,000 men)
11,500

Colonial Armies: 506,000 soldiers:

Army Group Harcourt:
- 1st Harcourt Guards (3,000 men)
- 2nd Harcourt Guards (3,000 men)
- 3rd Harcourt Guards (3,000 men)
- 1st Harcourt Chevaliers (2,000 men)
- 2nd Harcourt Chevaliers (2,000 men)
- 1st Harcourt Artillery Corps (2,000 men)
- Couronian Minutemen Divisions (30,000 men maximum)
- Native Guerrillas and draft minutemen (179,000 men maximum)
224,000

Army Group Bengal:
- 1st Company Guards (3,000 men)
- 2nd Company Guards (3,000 men)
- 3rd Company Guards (3,000 men)
- 1st Company Chevaliers (2,000 men)
- 2nd Company Chevaliers (2,000 men)
- 1st Company Artillery Corps (2,000 men)
- Company Minutemen Divisions (30,000 men maximum)
- Sepoys and draft minutemen (197,000 men maximum)
242,000

Army Group Biron:
- 1st Biron Minutemen (2,000 men)
- 2nd Biron Minutemen (2,000 men)
- 1st Biron emplacement corps (2,000 men)
- 1st Biron Coastal Engineers (1,500 men)
- 1st Biron Highland Fusiliers (2,500 men)
10,000

Couronian Foreign Legion:
- 1st Adjutant Company of Goldingen (3,000 men)
- 2nd Adjutant Company of Pskov (3,000 men)
- 3rd Adjutant Company of Ingria (3,000 men)
- Colonial Force Divisions (21,000 men overall)
30,000

National Goals : Secure Baltic Primacy, Consolidate and entrench core territory
National Issues : small population, colonies are fairly underdeveloped
National Figures of Interest : Gotthard Kettler (first Duke of Courland), Jacob Kettler (First King of Courland), Ernst Johann von Biron (first Biron King of Courland), Huyldrich Žižka (Leader of the Couronian Reformation)
National Ambition/Aspirations : Become an Internationally Recognised power

History :

- 1207: The Livonian Crusade subjugates the last Baltic tribes in Estonia and Latvia
- 1215: Terra Mariana (The Land of Mary) is established as a direct subject of the Holy See
- 1216-1264: The Livonian Order slowly integrate the lands of Terra Mariana into their fold
- 1265: The Livonian Brothers of the Sword construct a castle at Mitau, utilising it as a base for the Order independent of affiliated archbishoprics.
- 1265: The Livonian Order declare themselves independent of the subjection of the Holy See, and Terra Mariana becomes land under the management of the Livonian monastic Order
- 1300's: The Livonian Order become increasingly secular, resisting annexation from Poland, Lithuania and other neighbourly states
- 1450: as Ivan III resists the Mongol rulership of Rus', the Livonian Order annex Pskov and focus on converting the Orthodox Russians to Catholicism
- 1471-1478: The Livonian Order go to war with the republic of Novgorod, leading to the treaty of Dorpat, which allows the Order to annex Ingria from the declining Republic before its eventual annexation by Russia
- 1521: The Livonian Order is heavily reprimanded and threatened by the Pope for opposing the Diet of Worms
- 1531: Heavily influenced by Luther's Ninety-Five Theses and the Augsburg Confession, Huyldrich Žižka begins preaching protestant ideals in Dorpat
- 1558: The preachings of Huyldrich Žižka come to the attention of Gotthard Kettler, the new Grandmaster of the Livonian Order, who desires to sever ties with the papacy due to recurring issues
13th Jan) Huyldrich Žižka is summoned to Mitau, where he holds a secret audience with Gotthard Kettler
1st Feb) Gotthard Kettler officially severs ties with the papacy in a declaration titled: "Pax Livonia", the declaration is posted in streets, announced by heralds, and distributed to every sovereign nation in Europe. State religion is changed to Protestantism
8th Feb) Gotthard Kettler Secularises the Order, establishing himself as Duke of Courland and converting the komturei into Couronian provinces
- 1560-1650: Internal struggles wrack the new Duchy of Courland, due to the conflict between the protestant state, and catholic and orthodox minorities.
- 1650: Jacob Kettler declares Courland a sovereign kingdom, ending a century of internal turmoil by instituting many freedoms (such as freedom of religion), and the current administrative monarchy is formed
- 1651: Courland joins the colonial race, establishing Fort Jacob on St. Helene (1652) and claims Mauritius and Reunion (1654)
- 1682: Jacob Kettler dies heirless, leading to the election of Ernst Johann von Biron, the grandson of a stableboy. His election to the position of King requires the signing of the "Couronian Liberty" (search: Golden Liberty in wikipedia), which entrenched the rights of the nobility in all matters but succession.
- 1685: Couronian Sailors scour the West-African coastline near St Helene for a coastal naval base, settling on an island within the Mouth of the Congo River, they name it New Riga, but refuse to colonise the riverbanks out of fear of the native population's aggressive ways
- 1690-1844: The Couronian Kingdom remains stable and unchanging, state-sponsored military designs are adopted, and legal/civil principle remain in-line with the rest of Western Europe
- 1844: Friedrich Casimir von Biron ascends to the throne of Courland after the death of his father (Johann von Biron), he restricts the Couronian Liberty to emergency powers, granting more power to the rising bureaucratic sub-class of administrators
- 1852: The Kingdom of Courland institutes a policy of 'Souveränpolitik', where the sovereignty of the state must now rely on its interaction with other states, bringing Courland out unto the International Stage

Treaties:
Couronian-Hanseatic Pact
- Defensive and Offensive "Full" Alliance
- Legacy Exchange (Exchange of military doctrines and tactics)
- Technology Exchange (technological and political stuff)
- Free Trade Agreement (no tariffs between the two countries + trading preference)
- Infrastructural Support Network (Hanseatic Civil Engineering corps. stationed in Mitau)
- Academic Exchange (Academies and Universities in both nations are open to prospective [with limitations] students from either nation)
- Embassy Agreement (Couronian Embassy in Hamberg, Hanseatic Embassy in Mitau)
- Guaranteed Port access and discounted Sound Toll (decreased toll for Couronian ships passing through the Øresund strait)
Treaty of Stockholm
- A full military alliance with 25-year pledge of non-aggression
- A tariff reduction of 50% on trade between our nations in the Baltic Sea Superceded by Baltic Free Trade Agreement
- Open military and civilian borders
- Mutual recognition of overseas dominions and colonial territories
- The cession of Finnish Lappland to Courland
- Industrial exchange
Dhaka Accords
- Right to expand the territory of the East-India company to the existing borders of Nepal
- Exclusive trading rights with Nepal
- Recruitment of Nepali army elements into a Couronian Ghurka Division
- Industrial rights for arms manufacturing within Nepal
- Technological exchange
- dedication of 75% arms-manufacturing produce within Nepal to the NAF
- Goodwill Pledge
Comparison Points – Political : 2
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 1
Comparison Points – Economy :2
Comparison Points – Military : 5
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10
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Postby Oscalantine » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:24 am

Eurasian Hegemony wrote:Sooooooo what did I miss?


Map is almost updated, and I changed the RP's status to Semi-OPEN since there is lack of lands for everyone.

Apart from that... nothing much? 2 new people joined with third on the way ^^

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Postby Conwy-Shire » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:25 am

Oscalantine wrote:Map is almost updated, and I changed the RP's status to Semi-OPEN since there is lack of lands for everyone.

Apart from that... nothing much? 2 new people joined with third on the way ^^

Haha, just as I post

quick, quick, feedback before you finalize the map update :p
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I will start the Invasion of the Neo-Akkadian Empire soon, slowly but surely. They will yield in front of Rome's glory!
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:00 am

Siam has 1/7th of its population in the military? That's absurd. There's no way a 19th century nation could sustain such a huge military. There's no way you could arm, feed and clothe them all.
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Postby Cymrea » Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:14 am

Oscalantine wrote:GB has denounced Catholicism for Druidism... or something.

Cambria (Britain) has chosen to revive Briton paganism in the form of Druidism, in place of Protestantism. Many Catholics also converted, and now Druidism is the primary faith - not the only one. Druidism is tolerant of other faiths.

At some point, I'm going to expand upon this spirituality in my Cymrea Factbook. :)

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Postby Cymrea » Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:01 am

Cymrea wrote:Returns on investment, primarily from toll fees, are expected to continue well into the Twenty-first Century. By which time, Cambria and her allies will surely be colonising the moon!


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Postby Novacom » Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:52 am

As an aside blockading Isla da Gonave with any pirates or in general is flat out dumb, Lucian Goldknuckle holds sway there and he is in essence the pirate godfather, not to mention it'll really piss off Bloody Mary and no way Lemon Coat would do it either :P

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Postby Wasp Town » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:08 pm

Novacom wrote:As an aside blockading Isla da Gonave with any pirates or in general is flat out dumb, Lucian Goldknuckle holds sway there and he is in essence the pirate godfather, not to mention it'll really piss off Bloody Mary and no way Lemon Coat would do it either :P

Arrrgh?
So whats up with the pirates anyways? I saw that there is an even going on a'boot em, but I am not sure of the details.

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Postby Novacom » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:24 pm

Wasp Town wrote:
Novacom wrote:As an aside blockading Isla da Gonave with any pirates or in general is flat out dumb, Lucian Goldknuckle holds sway there and he is in essence the pirate godfather, not to mention it'll really piss off Bloody Mary and no way Lemon Coat would do it either :P

Arrrgh?
So whats up with the pirates anyways? I saw that there is an even going on a'boot em, but I am not sure of the details.


In essence there was going to be a pirate nation formed but it all went south leaving the pirates thrashing around wildly in what you could call death throes...

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Postby Bhikkustan » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:43 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:Siam has 1/7th of its population in the military? That's absurd. There's no way a 19th century nation could sustain such a huge military. There's no way you could arm, feed and clothe them all.

Changed this. It was because my original army/pop were too small.
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Postby Cymrea » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:51 pm

Bhikkustan wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Siam has 1/7th of its population in the military? That's absurd. There's no way a 19th century nation could sustain such a huge military. There's no way you could arm, feed and clothe them all.

Changed this. It was because my original army/pop were too small.

At a population of 18 million, 1% maximum for your military is 180,000, including regulars and reserves. :)
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Wasp Town
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Postby Wasp Town » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:55 pm

Cymrea wrote:
Bhikkustan wrote:Changed this. It was because my original army/pop were too small.

At a population of 18 million, 1% maximum for your military is 180,000, including regulars and reserves. :)

Unless he is still primitive enough to be using Levies and Citizen-Soldiers.

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Bhikkustan
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Postby Bhikkustan » Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:06 pm

Wasp Town wrote:
Cymrea wrote:At a population of 18 million, 1% maximum for your military is 180,000, including regulars and reserves. :)

Unless he is still primitive enough to be using Levies and Citizen-Soldiers.

Should I increase pop or something because my army is going to be destroyed at 180000 men.
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Novacom
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Postby Novacom » Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:08 pm

Bhikkustan wrote:
Wasp Town wrote:Unless he is still primitive enough to be using Levies and Citizen-Soldiers.

Should I increase pop or something because my army is going to be destroyed at 180000 men.


Erm you do know most people arn't going to have massive armies yes you have a china but thats what diplomacy is for...

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Bhikkustan
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Postby Bhikkustan » Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:10 pm

Ok I'll shrink it. Might keep militia though, as it fits my description.
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The Greater Dutch Republic
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Postby The Greater Dutch Republic » Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:37 pm

Bhikkustan wrote:Ok I'll shrink it. Might keep militia though, as it fits my description.

Maybe you can do that thing that RL Siam did when they rapidly industrialized so they didn't get bitch slapped by Europe.
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Old Tyrannia
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Thu Sep 03, 2015 3:15 pm

Also, your head of state should be the king. If you're going to play as a constitutional monarchy of some sort then the monarch would be head of state and chief executive (prime ministet, chancellor or what have you) would be head of government. I wouldn't use the title "president" for a head of government either, that would be extremely unusual as presidents are usually heads of state in republics.
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Bhikkustan
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Postby Bhikkustan » Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:20 pm

The Greater Dutch Republic wrote:
Bhikkustan wrote:Ok I'll shrink it. Might keep militia though, as it fits my description.

Maybe you can do that thing that RL Siam did when they rapidly industrialized so they didn't get bitch slapped by Europe.

I probably will.
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Oscalantine
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Postby Oscalantine » Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:29 pm

I.... am... going to KILL a man... ... ... if anyone talks ANY more about blasted numbers.

It doesn't matter, it never WILL matter... and I WILL not tolerate anyone nitpicking someone's nation based on numbers. Because ANYONE throwing numbers in this RP's IC post will automatically lose... simply because the rules favor those who are descriptive and use literary words.

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