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The Union of Courland
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Postby The Union of Courland » Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:38 am

Tag.
This is the law of the jungle,
As old and as true as the sky,
The wolf that shall keep it may prosper,
But the wolf that shall break it must die,
As the creeper that girdles the tree trunk,
The law runneth forwards and back,
For the strength of the pack is the wolf,
And the strength of a wolf is the pack.
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Oscalantine
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Postby Oscalantine » Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:39 am

Norwegian Vinland wrote:Could I reserve Austria Hungary


Austrian Hungary... sounds... greatly normal.
Well, I just approved Britain, so no complains. But how is this different from the average AH that happened IRL?

The Union of Courland wrote:Tag.


Yush~!!

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Postby Southern Babylonia » Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:47 am

Taggity.
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The Union of Courland
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Postby The Union of Courland » Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:49 am

Can I reserve Brittany, with Puerto Rico, Ifni, and the Liberian Coast as colonies? Obviously, the colonies won't be called what they are. Liberia would be New Brittany, Ifni was already named If I by the Moroccans, and I'll work on Rico's name.
This is the law of the jungle,
As old and as true as the sky,
The wolf that shall keep it may prosper,
But the wolf that shall break it must die,
As the creeper that girdles the tree trunk,
The law runneth forwards and back,
For the strength of the pack is the wolf,
And the strength of a wolf is the pack.
-Unknown

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Postby Norwegian Vinland » Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:32 am

Oscalantine wrote:
Norwegian Vinland wrote:Could I reserve Austria Hungary


Austrian Hungary... sounds... greatly normal.
Well, I just approved Britain, so no complains. But how is this different from the average AH that happened IRL?

The Union of Courland wrote:Tag.


Yush~!!

I just wanted the territory, but I was going to make it the Danubian Federation.

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Oscalantine
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Postby Oscalantine » Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:39 am

Norwegian Vinland wrote:
Oscalantine wrote:
Austrian Hungary... sounds... greatly normal.
Well, I just approved Britain, so no complains. But how is this different from the average AH that happened IRL?



Yush~!!

I just wanted the territory, but I was going to make it the Danubian Federation.



OOOOO transylvania?! So reverse hapsberg union?!

I thought that you would take more of wallacha and lands directly north of ottomans. But... sure, ill reserve the claims ^^

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Postby Norwegian Vinland » Sun Jul 26, 2015 4:42 am

Oscalantine wrote:
Norwegian Vinland wrote:I just wanted the territory, but I was going to make it the Danubian Federation.



OOOOO transylvania?! So reverse hapsberg union?!

I thought that you would take more of wallacha and lands directly north of ottomans. But... sure, ill reserve the claims ^^


Image

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Postby Kosovo12345 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 4:45 am

Save me The Sino Union! China, Korea, and Japan!

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Oscalantine
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Postby Oscalantine » Sun Jul 26, 2015 5:11 am

Norwegian Vinland wrote:(Image)


Sure. Reserved ^^

Although... Venetian realm and Croatia will need to be separated. I know I am playing favorites, but Venetian lands are too wealthy for you to gobble up with Austria ^^;;; Hopefully you are alright with that.

Kosovo12345 wrote:Save me The Sino Union! China, Korea, and Japan!


As... a Korean with too much interest in my country's history... I cannot see that working. Just cannot.

Mind you... you CAN... if you go ALL the way back to first Han Dynasty and work your way up from Old Joeson period... ... ... but then again...
Yeah. If you don't know what Old Joeson period is, then I cannot help you. I know enough about my nation and Chinese and Japanese history to know that it takes a REAL special app to accomplish this. Show me the history section at the very least, and I'll approve the reserve.

Plus, the claim as China itself is a MASSIVE reserve. For the sake of fairness, I cannot allow beyond mainland China unless you can convince me through your app that you REALLY have a good history behind your claims.

The Union of Courland wrote:Can I reserve Brittany, with Puerto Rico, Ifni, and the Liberian Coast as colonies? Obviously, the colonies won't be called what they are. Liberia would be New Brittany, Ifni was already named If I by the Moroccans, and I'll work on Rico's name.


Awesome. I'll keep that in mind for reserve.


Reserve for Mainland France, Corsica, Algeria, Guiana, Senegal, Vietnam, Martinique, Guadeloupe, and Polynesia came in~!!
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Postby The Union of Courland » Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:11 am

The Union of Courland wrote:Can I reserve Brittany, with Puerto Rico, Ifni, and the Liberian Coast as colonies? Obviously, the colonies won't be called what they are. Liberia would be New Brittany, Ifni was already named If I by the Moroccans, and I'll work on Rico's name.

Rico's name will be Ynys Cyfoetheg. Rich Island in Welsh, which is the closest to Brittonic I could get.
This is the law of the jungle,
As old and as true as the sky,
The wolf that shall keep it may prosper,
But the wolf that shall break it must die,
As the creeper that girdles the tree trunk,
The law runneth forwards and back,
For the strength of the pack is the wolf,
And the strength of a wolf is the pack.
-Unknown

Nurse Redheart is best pony.
Proud Supporter of Luna and the New Lunar Republic. Down with the Tyrant Celestia! If you support the Solar Empire, TG me.
Sanabel wrote:I control the Holy See with its transvestite pope who identifies as an ogre.

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Postby Arvenia » Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:16 am

Reserve me for the Shai Dynasty (Northeast China, Xilin Gol, Tongliao, Hulunbuir, Hinggan, Chifeng, Rason, North Hamgyong, Ryanggang, Khabarovsk Krai, Primorsky Krai and Sakhalin Island), aka Khagan!
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Postby Oscalantine » Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:21 am

Arvenia wrote:Reserve me for the Shai Dynasty (Northeast China, Xilin Gol, Tongliao, Hulunbuir, Hinggan, Chifeng, Rason, North Hamgyong, Ryanggang, Khabarovsk Krai, Primorsky Krai and Sakhalin Island), aka Khagan!


What, no Jeju-do and Hawaii? XDDD

Sorry, I remember seeing you in many of my RPs. Thank you SO much for coming~!! Welcome and reserved!

EDIT Rason, North Hamgyong... ? What is your history again? From 1200 Genghis Khan?

I realize I am getting a bit defensive about Korea... but I thought I should ask since I gave the other Sino union a hard time.

The Union of Courland wrote:
The Union of Courland wrote:Can I reserve Brittany, with Puerto Rico, Ifni, and the Liberian Coast as colonies? Obviously, the colonies won't be called what they are. Liberia would be New Brittany, Ifni was already named If I by the Moroccans, and I'll work on Rico's name.

Rico's name will be Ynys Cyfoetheg. Rich Island in Welsh, which is the closest to Brittonic I could get.


Could we talk about geography after the app? ^^;;; I am having a heavenly time thinking of my own profile while needing to work on reserve maps XDDD
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Postby The Union of Courland » Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:23 am

Oscalantine wrote:
Arvenia wrote:Reserve me for the Shai Dynasty (Northeast China, Xilin Gol, Tongliao, Hulunbuir, Hinggan, Chifeng, Rason, North Hamgyong, Ryanggang, Khabarovsk Krai, Primorsky Krai and Sakhalin Island), aka Khagan!


What, no Jeju-do and Hawaii? XDDD

Sorry, I remember seeing you in many of my RPs. Thank you SO much for coming~!! Welcome and reserved!

Is my reservation noted?
This is the law of the jungle,
As old and as true as the sky,
The wolf that shall keep it may prosper,
But the wolf that shall break it must die,
As the creeper that girdles the tree trunk,
The law runneth forwards and back,
For the strength of the pack is the wolf,
And the strength of a wolf is the pack.
-Unknown

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Postby Claven » Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:25 am

Dammit, I want to join so badly (T.T)

Why must you tempt me so P2TM?!
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Postby Claven » Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:27 am

Say, if i do join, could I make an independent Assyrian/Mesopotamian civilization? If so, could I reserve Mesopotamia?
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Their promiscuity? Scary.
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Postby Oscalantine » Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:30 am

Claven wrote:Say, if i do join, could I make an independent Assyrian/Mesopotamian civilization? If so, could I reserve Mesopotamia?


Wow, are we seeing Persia or Babylon somehow surviving all this time? ... wait, you said Assyria, so that's WAY back from the stone ages (not literally... more like Bronze Age if I got my history correct).

As long as you are PERFECTLY fine bringing up from that point in divergence and explain how you survived through changing world... I welcome you with open arms for such creativity!

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Postby The Union of Courland » Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:30 am

Oscalantine wrote:
Arvenia wrote:Reserve me for the Shai Dynasty (Northeast China, Xilin Gol, Tongliao, Hulunbuir, Hinggan, Chifeng, Rason, North Hamgyong, Ryanggang, Khabarovsk Krai, Primorsky Krai and Sakhalin Island), aka Khagan!


What, no Jeju-do and Hawaii? XDDD

Sorry, I remember seeing you in many of my RPs. Thank you SO much for coming~!! Welcome and reserved!

The Union of Courland wrote:Rico's name will be Ynys Cyfoetheg. Rich Island in Welsh, which is the closest to Brittonic I could get.


Could we talk about geography after the app? ^^;;; I am having a heavenly time thinking of my own profile while needing to work on reserve maps XDDD

Brittany is easy enough to find, just search it up. Ifni is in Southern Morocco, it's the smallest province I believe, and if you play Victoria 2 the Liberian Coast is pretty easy to find.
This is the law of the jungle,
As old and as true as the sky,
The wolf that shall keep it may prosper,
But the wolf that shall break it must die,
As the creeper that girdles the tree trunk,
The law runneth forwards and back,
For the strength of the pack is the wolf,
And the strength of a wolf is the pack.
-Unknown

Nurse Redheart is best pony.
Proud Supporter of Luna and the New Lunar Republic. Down with the Tyrant Celestia! If you support the Solar Empire, TG me.
Sanabel wrote:I control the Holy See with its transvestite pope who identifies as an ogre.

The New Greek Republic wrote:What's red and bad for your teeth?
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Postby Oscalantine » Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:31 am

The Union of Courland wrote:
Oscalantine wrote:
What, no Jeju-do and Hawaii? XDDD

Sorry, I remember seeing you in many of my RPs. Thank you SO much for coming~!! Welcome and reserved!

Is my reservation noted?


Brittany? As long as you are alright with Mighty France as your neighbor (reservation just came in) you are golden ^^

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Postby Claven » Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:42 am

Oscalantine wrote:
Claven wrote:Say, if i do join, could I make an independent Assyrian/Mesopotamian civilization? If so, could I reserve Mesopotamia?


Wow, are we seeing Persia or Babylon somehow surviving all this time? ... wait, you said Assyria, so that's WAY back from the stone ages (not literally... more like Bronze Age if I got my history correct).

As long as you are PERFECTLY fine bringing up from that point in divergence and explain how you survived through changing world... I welcome you with open arms for such creativity!


I was thinking more of a Persian empire crumbling before Alexander, and well like the Diadochi but not Greek. And I suppose it would be Assyrian mostly in name. Aramaic already becoming the lingua franca of the region and all that. Still, it would take quite some time for me to fix everything. Like the seljuqs, and arabs, and mongols, and other MidEast nations. Gonna take a lot of time though.
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Oscalantine
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Postby Oscalantine » Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:47 am

Claven wrote:
Oscalantine wrote:
Wow, are we seeing Persia or Babylon somehow surviving all this time? ... wait, you said Assyria, so that's WAY back from the stone ages (not literally... more like Bronze Age if I got my history correct).

As long as you are PERFECTLY fine bringing up from that point in divergence and explain how you survived through changing world... I welcome you with open arms for such creativity!


I was thinking more of a Persian empire crumbling before Alexander, and well like the Diadochi but not Greek. And I suppose it would be Assyrian mostly in name. Aramaic already becoming the lingua franca of the region and all that. Still, it would take quite some time for me to fix everything. Like the seljuqs, and arabs, and mongols, and other MidEast nations. Gonna take a lot of time though.


Sounds pretty epic. Give me you EXACTLY territories and I'll try to reserve your nation ^^

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Postby Claven » Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:49 am

http://postimg.org/image/jp5emf51p/full/

I was also thinking bout taking Elam, but then, well, I would like to see how they would evolve. But we dont know as much about them as the Mesopotamians :(

They'll be my first target though, as well as Israel *begins the reenactment of the bible*
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Protectorate: Penguinlanda
Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest



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The Unified Earth Government
Finsternia
Completed!! Open for business!! TG me!!
Cumberlanda wrote:Not exactly frightened at their military.
Their promiscuity? Scary.
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Oscalantine
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Postby Oscalantine » Sun Jul 26, 2015 7:02 am

Claven wrote:http://postimg.org/image/jp5emf51p/full/

I was also thinking bout taking Elam, but then, well, I would like to see how they would evolve. But we dont know as much about them as the Mesopotamians :(

They'll be my first target though, as well as Israel *begins the reenactment of the bible*


XDDD.... that was the easier reserve map edit I could ask for. Done~!!

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Postby The Union of Courland » Sun Jul 26, 2015 7:02 am

Full Nation Name : Second Kingdom of Brittany
Majority/Official Culture : Breton, subgroup of Celtic Culture
Territorial Core : Historical Brittany, Ynys Cyfoetheg(Puerto Rico), New Brittany(Liberian Coast), and the Moroccan city of Ifni.
Territorial Claim : No claims.
Capital City : Brest, Province of Finistére, Northeast Brittany
Population : Can't find at reliable resources, so I'm going with around 1,500,000 on the mainland, and 75,000 in all the colonies.

Government Type : Constitutional Monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies : Colonial
Government Focus : Continue to build up economy, get/expand colonies.
Head of State : Queen Helene of Mecklenburg-Schwerin
Head of Government : Queen Helene of Mecklenburg-Schwerin
Government Description : Constitutional Monarchy, the Queen and Parliament both have joint power over the government. The Constitution establishes a Free Market Economy an allows the people to vote for Parliament members, 5 from each province, with there being 5 provinces in total. The colonies send 1 representative each.

Majority/State Religion : Roman Catholic
Religious Description : Same as RL

Economic Ideologies : Capitalist Free Market Economy
Major Production : Goods from colonies, such as Cash Crops from Ynys Cyfoetheg and New Brittany, and Silk/Lace from Brittany itself.
Economic Description : The economy is currently booming, trade with other nations fueled by products from the colonies is the backbone of the economy.

Army Strength : 60,000 strong, the Army is not as funded as the Navy. Still could kick a small African Army because of its technological superiority. 50,000 troops are stationed on the mainland, 1,000 stationed in Ifni, 2,000 stationed on Ynys Cyfoetheg, and 7,000 stationed in New Brittany.
Army Weakness : Less focus than on the Navy, only 50,000 troops stationed on the mainland.
Naval Strength : 3,000 people, consists of 25 Frigates, 10 Man-of-Wars, and two experimental Ironclads. Heavily funded.
Naval Weakness : The fleet is very slow, as all ships have to move at once.
Further Military Description : Not as advanced, but most focus in the ground troops is on artillery, with two regiments (each regiment is 5,000 on the mainland) dedicated to cannons. This is because the thought process is that the cannons will obliterate most of an invading force, and the cavalry will mop up the stragglers. The cavalry itself has 3 Regiments, and the other 5 mainland regiments are foot soldiers. Ifni has all foot soldiers, Ynys Cyfoetheg has 1,000 of each, and New Brittany has 2,000 Cavalry, 1,000 artillery, and 5,000 foot soldiers.

National Goals : Expand current colonies, snuggle up with big brother France or bigger brother UK, continue to build upon current economy.
National Issues : People in the colonies are demanding more representation, and are threatening to rebel if they don't have as much representation as the provinces.
National Figures of Interest : Not really.
National Ambition/Aspirations : The people don't have one fixed goal, other than resisting annexation.

History : IRL, the French invaded and annexed Brittany. Instead, the French were to worried about problems elsewhere that they never invaded Brittany. Brittany joined Portugal in being one of the first countries to send a merchant fleet around the Cape, 20 or so gears after the Portuguese did so. The set up a colony in what is now called Liberia, and they named it New Brittany once it grew bigger. They sent a fleet across the Atlantic along with most of Europe during the "Scramble for North America", managing to nab RL Puerto Rico during the chaos, naming the island Ynys Cyfoetheg, or Rich Island in Britton. Afterwords, with the French threat growing bigger, they decided to stop their expansion and focus on improving the Army. After the Duke made some bad decisions, the people overthrew the Grand Duchy and installed a King. When the ideas of liberalism spread from the Renaissance, the people revolted once again, and what was called the Reign of Terror began in Brittany. The people executed many royals, and only after several years was the current constitution established, restoring the monarchy, but with elements of democracy. The only problems now are that the colonies are demanding more representation in the government, and they have threatened to rebel if their demands are not answered.

Comparison Points – Political : 3
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 2
Comparison Points – Economy : 3
Comparison Points – Military : 2
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10

Done.
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This is the law of the jungle,
As old and as true as the sky,
The wolf that shall keep it may prosper,
But the wolf that shall break it must die,
As the creeper that girdles the tree trunk,
The law runneth forwards and back,
For the strength of the pack is the wolf,
And the strength of a wolf is the pack.
-Unknown

Nurse Redheart is best pony.
Proud Supporter of Luna and the New Lunar Republic. Down with the Tyrant Celestia! If you support the Solar Empire, TG me.
Sanabel wrote:I control the Holy See with its transvestite pope who identifies as an ogre.

The New Greek Republic wrote:What's red and bad for your teeth?
A brick.

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Oscalantine
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Postby Oscalantine » Sun Jul 26, 2015 7:10 am

Alright... that's enough waiting...

I'm reserving myself Singapore, coasts of Malay Peninsula, interior coasts of Gulf of Thailand, Sumatra, Brunei, and few islands in the Philippines.

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The Union of Courland
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Postby The Union of Courland » Sun Jul 26, 2015 7:17 am

Did France still have it's own revolution? Because I plan on having a member of the House of Orleans be Monarch if they where kicked from France like they were IRL.
This is the law of the jungle,
As old and as true as the sky,
The wolf that shall keep it may prosper,
But the wolf that shall break it must die,
As the creeper that girdles the tree trunk,
The law runneth forwards and back,
For the strength of the pack is the wolf,
And the strength of a wolf is the pack.
-Unknown

Nurse Redheart is best pony.
Proud Supporter of Luna and the New Lunar Republic. Down with the Tyrant Celestia! If you support the Solar Empire, TG me.
Sanabel wrote:I control the Holy See with its transvestite pope who identifies as an ogre.

The New Greek Republic wrote:What's red and bad for your teeth?
A brick.

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