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Postby Arvenia » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:43 am

Arvenia wrote:NS Name: Arvenia
Nation Name:
Informal - China
Formal - Xing Dynasty
Head of State: Liandong Emperor
Head of Government: Chancellor Xi Tang
Flag: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130113035253/althistory/images/c/c5/Flag-of-North-China.png
Claims: China (without Tibet), Hainan Island, Chinese Spratly Islands and Inner Mongolia (The official territory of your country)
Capital City: Beijing

Government Form: Imperial Democratic Semi-Parliamentary Hereditary Monarchy
Ideology: Legalism (Political, not economic)
Foreign Policy: Xing sees NATO as a friend and the USSR as a threat. (How does your nation see the world? What is its stance or position on issues outside its country?)
Civil Freedoms /10: 5
Political Freedoms /10: 5
Economic Freedoms /10: 10

Military Name: Chinese Defense Force
Military Size:
Active - 4,000,000
Reserve - 6,000,000
Military Strength (from 1 to 10): 8

Description of Your Nation's Economy: It is stabile and works good thanks to trade. It's economic system is Provisionist (Third Way).
Description of Your Nation's Government: Democratic empire under the Third Way. Having 10 parties and election held every 10 years. A monarch is succeeded through heir.
Population of Your Nation: 1,20,000,000

Alternate History: The Xing family took the Nationalists' place in the civil war against Mao Zedong and his army while the Nationalists ruled Taiwan. In 1950, Xing won the civil war, the Xing Dynasty was established, the Chinese Communist Party is purged and Mao Zedong is executed in Tianamnen Square. Xing fought a brief conflict against the USSR in 1969 and supported NATO. (Explain what has differed from the original timeline. Remember that any time that is appropriate for your nation is the POD.)
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Postby New Jordslag » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:44 am

Arvenia wrote:
Arvenia wrote:NS Name: Arvenia
Nation Name:
Informal - China
Formal - Xing Dynasty
Head of State: Liandong Emperor
Head of Government: Chancellor Xi Tang
Flag: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130113035253/althistory/images/c/c5/Flag-of-North-China.png
Claims: China (without Tibet), Hainan Island, Chinese Spratly Islands and Inner Mongolia (The official territory of your country)
Capital City: Beijing

Government Form: Imperial Democratic Semi-Parliamentary Hereditary Monarchy
Ideology: Legalism (Political, not economic)
Foreign Policy: Xing sees NATO as a friend and the USSR as a threat. (How does your nation see the world? What is its stance or position on issues outside its country?)
Civil Freedoms /10: 5
Political Freedoms /10: 5
Economic Freedoms /10: 10

Military Name: Chinese Defense Force
Military Size:
Active - 4,000,000
Reserve - 6,000,000
Military Strength (from 1 to 10): 8

Description of Your Nation's Economy: It is stabile and works good thanks to trade. It's economic system is Provisionist (Third Way).
Description of Your Nation's Government: Democratic empire under the Third Way. Having 10 parties and election held every 10 years. A monarch is succeeded through heir.
Population of Your Nation: 1,20,000,000

Alternate History: The Xing family took the Nationalists' place in the civil war against Mao Zedong and his army while the Nationalists ruled Taiwan. In 1950, Xing won the civil war, the Xing Dynasty was established, the Chinese Communist Party is purged and Mao Zedong is executed in Tianamnen Square. Xing fought a brief conflict against the USSR in 1969 and supported NATO. (Explain what has differed from the original timeline. Remember that any time that is appropriate for your nation is the POD.)
RP Sample: Ride of the Valkyries 1944
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App fixed again!

You also can't have 1,200,000,000 people. Even 900,000,000 would be a bit of a stretch for China. Try something in the 800 millions.
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Postby Arvenia » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:49 am

Arvenia wrote:NS Name: Arvenia
Nation Name:
Informal - China
Formal - Xing Dynasty
Head of State: Liandong Emperor
Head of Government: Chancellor Xi Tang
Flag: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130113035253/althistory/images/c/c5/Flag-of-North-China.png
Claims: China (without Tibet), Hainan Island, Chinese Spratly Islands and Inner Mongolia (The official territory of your country)
Capital City: Beijing

Government Form: Imperial Democratic Semi-Parliamentary Hereditary Monarchy
Ideology: New Confucianism (Political, not economic)
Foreign Policy: Xing sees NATO as a friend and the USSR as a threat. (How does your nation see the world? What is its stance or position on issues outside its country?)
Civil Freedoms /10: 5
Political Freedoms /10: 5
Economic Freedoms /10: 10

Military Name: Chinese Defense Force
Military Size:
Active - 8,000,000
Reserve - 12,000,000
Military Strength (from 1 to 10): 8

Description of Your Nation's Economy: It is stabile and works good thanks to trade. It's economic system is Provisionist (Third Way).
Description of Your Nation's Government: Democratic empire under the Third Way. Having 10 parties and election held every 10 years. A monarch is succeeded through heir.
Population of Your Nation: 800,000,000

Alternate History: The Xing family took the Nationalists' place in the civil war against Mao Zedong and his army while the Nationalists ruled Taiwan. In 1950, Xing won the civil war, the Xing Dynasty was established, the Chinese Communist Party is purged and Mao Zedong is executed by decapitation in Tianamnen Square. Xing fought a brief conflict against the USSR in 1969 and supported NATO. (Explain what has differed from the original timeline. Remember that any time that is appropriate for your nation is the POD.)
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App fixed for the third time!
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Postby New Jordslag » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:56 am

Arvenia wrote:
Arvenia wrote:NS Name: Arvenia
Nation Name:
Informal - China
Formal - Xing Dynasty
Head of State: Liandong Emperor
Head of Government: Chancellor Xi Tang
Flag: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130113035253/althistory/images/c/c5/Flag-of-North-China.png
Claims: China (without Tibet), Hainan Island, Chinese Spratly Islands and Inner Mongolia (The official territory of your country)
Capital City: Beijing

Government Form: Imperial Democratic Semi-Parliamentary Hereditary Monarchy
Ideology: New Confucianism (Political, not economic)
Foreign Policy: Xing sees NATO as a friend and the USSR as a threat. (How does your nation see the world? What is its stance or position on issues outside its country?)
Civil Freedoms /10: 5
Political Freedoms /10: 5
Economic Freedoms /10: 10

Military Name: Chinese Defense Force
Military Size:
Active - 8,000,000
Reserve - 12,000,000
Military Strength (from 1 to 10): 8

Description of Your Nation's Economy: It is stabile and works good thanks to trade. It's economic system is Provisionist (Third Way).
Description of Your Nation's Government: Democratic empire under the Third Way. Having 10 parties and election held every 10 years. A monarch is succeeded through heir.
Population of Your Nation: 800,000,000

Alternate History: The Xing family took the Nationalists' place in the civil war against Mao Zedong and his army while the Nationalists ruled Taiwan. In 1950, Xing won the civil war, the Xing Dynasty was established, the Chinese Communist Party is purged and Mao Zedong is executed by decapitation in Tianamnen Square. Xing fought a brief conflict against the USSR in 1969 and supported NATO. (Explain what has differed from the original timeline. Remember that any time that is appropriate for your nation is the POD.)
RP Sample: Ride of the Valkyries 1944
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App fixed for the third time!

Seems good.
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New Jordslag wrote:Then we can have another New York. No such thing as too many New Yorks.


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Postby Epraria » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:38 am

What's open?
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



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Postby New Jordslag » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:42 am

Epraria wrote:What's open?

Well, we need a North Korea. South Korea and I will ruthlessly destroy you though.

So... How about Italy? Middle power, economy is strong and growing, and lots of story to build off of, such as the large Italian Communist Terrorist group murdering politicians.
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New Jordslag wrote:Then we can have another New York. No such thing as too many New Yorks.


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Postby Epraria » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:46 am

New Jordslag wrote:
Arvenia wrote:App fixed for the third time!

Seems good.

Yes ignore that 8 million active and 12 million reserves would wreck the Chinese economy or that he doesn't explain just how the f*ck this Xing family manages to get into the civil war and beat the communists who after 1945 had essentially all the public support and that most people really didn't want a new imperial dynasty. Then comes how the heck the Xing fought the USSR in 1969 without it escalating. The USSR is a super power and China is most likely a great power. How did that not escalate?
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
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98% of all Internet users would cry if Facebook broke down. If you are part of that 2% who simply would sit back and laugh, copy and paste this into your sig.
Myansaland wrote:
HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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Postby Arvenia » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:00 am

Epraria wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Seems good.

Yes ignore that 8 million active and 12 million reserves would wreck the Chinese economy or that he doesn't explain just how the f*ck this Xing family manages to get into the civil war and beat the communists who after 1945 had essentially all the public support and that most people really didn't want a new imperial dynasty. Then comes how the heck the Xing fought the USSR in 1969 without it escalating. The USSR is a super power and China is most likely a great power. How did that not escalate?

The Xing-Soviet conflict lasted for the same duration as the real-life Sino-Soviet conflict. Also, what military population recommends to prevent the economy from being wrecked? Plus, the Xing family got support from the Allies and Taiwan, more support than what Mao Zedong's faction gets.
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Postby Epraria » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:08 am

Arvenia wrote:
Epraria wrote:Yes ignore that 8 million active and 12 million reserves would wreck the Chinese economy or that he doesn't explain just how the f*ck this Xing family manages to get into the civil war and beat the communists who after 1945 had essentially all the public support and that most people really didn't want a new imperial dynasty. Then comes how the heck the Xing fought the USSR in 1969 without it escalating. The USSR is a super power and China is most likely a great power. How did that not escalate?

The Xing-Soviet conflict lasted for the same duration as the real-life Sino-Soviet conflict. Also, what military population recommends to prevent the economy from being wrecked? Plus, the Xing family got support from the Allies and Taiwan, more support than what Mao Zedong's faction gets.

the RL Sino-Soviet conflict was a bunch of border clashes not a full scale war and even if these Xing got support from the allies during the civil war so did the Nationalists. The Nationalists would not just let the Xing take over and make China into an Empire again. The nationalists would have fought against both the Communists and Xing. The RL nationalists fought on until 1950. Also why would the allies support a newcomer to the Chinese civil war when the Nationalists had already fought with the Allies against Japan and the fact that the Nationalists wanted to create a democratic Republic not an Empire. Also i seriously doubt you understand what the Communists got from the Soviets following WW2. The communists basically got all of Manchuria handed to them together with a lot of soviet equipment plus the most important thing of them all the support of the people.
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

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Postby Arvenia » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:44 am

Epraria wrote:
Arvenia wrote:The Xing-Soviet conflict lasted for the same duration as the real-life Sino-Soviet conflict. Also, what military population recommends to prevent the economy from being wrecked? Plus, the Xing family got support from the Allies and Taiwan, more support than what Mao Zedong's faction gets.

the RL Sino-Soviet conflict was a bunch of border clashes not a full scale war and even if these Xing got support from the allies during the civil war so did the Nationalists. The Nationalists would not just let the Xing take over and make China into an Empire again. The nationalists would have fought against both the Communists and Xing. The RL nationalists fought on until 1950. Also why would the allies support a newcomer to the Chinese civil war when the Nationalists had already fought with the Allies against Japan and the fact that the Nationalists wanted to create a democratic Republic not an Empire. Also i seriously doubt you understand what the Communists got from the Soviets following WW2. The communists basically got all of Manchuria handed to them together with a lot of soviet equipment plus the most important thing of them all the support of the people.

Dude, the Xing family was a vassal of the Qing Dynasty and supported the Nationalists during the Xinhai Revolution. The Xing is very Nationalist like the Nationalists, but wants to create a peaceful Chinese empire, purge bad ideologies like Fascism and Communism, support NATO and re-establish relations between the Chinese and the Japanese.
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Postby Epraria » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:49 am

Arvenia wrote:
Epraria wrote:the RL Sino-Soviet conflict was a bunch of border clashes not a full scale war and even if these Xing got support from the allies during the civil war so did the Nationalists. The Nationalists would not just let the Xing take over and make China into an Empire again. The nationalists would have fought against both the Communists and Xing. The RL nationalists fought on until 1950. Also why would the allies support a newcomer to the Chinese civil war when the Nationalists had already fought with the Allies against Japan and the fact that the Nationalists wanted to create a democratic Republic not an Empire. Also i seriously doubt you understand what the Communists got from the Soviets following WW2. The communists basically got all of Manchuria handed to them together with a lot of soviet equipment plus the most important thing of them all the support of the people.

Dude, the Xing family was a vassal of the Qing Dynasty and supported the Nationalists during the Xinhai Revolution. The Xing is very Nationalist like the Nationalists, but wants to create a peaceful Chinese empire, purge bad ideologies like Fascism and Communism, support NATO and re-establish relations between the Chinese and the Japanese.

Just because your nationalistic doesn't mean you will be the BFF's of the Nationalists during the civil war if you decide to enter the civil war and create an empire when they want a republic. They will fight you for dominance of China. The fact that the Xing are nobles will only make the nationalists and people dislike them more.
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

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Postby Arvenia » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:10 am

Epraria wrote:
Arvenia wrote:Dude, the Xing family was a vassal of the Qing Dynasty and supported the Nationalists during the Xinhai Revolution. The Xing is very Nationalist like the Nationalists, but wants to create a peaceful Chinese empire, purge bad ideologies like Fascism and Communism, support NATO and re-establish relations between the Chinese and the Japanese.

Just because your nationalistic doesn't mean you will be the BFF's of the Nationalists during the civil war if you decide to enter the civil war and create an empire when they want a republic. They will fight you for dominance of China. The fact that the Xing are nobles will only make the nationalists and people dislike them more.

Then Xing Dynasty will be like Japan after WW2, Sweden and Great Britain! These nations are constitutional monarchies!
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Postby New Jordslag » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:23 am

Arvenia wrote:
Epraria wrote:Just because your nationalistic doesn't mean you will be the BFF's of the Nationalists during the civil war if you decide to enter the civil war and create an empire when they want a republic. They will fight you for dominance of China. The fact that the Xing are nobles will only make the nationalists and people dislike them more.

Then Xing Dynasty will be like Japan after WW2, Sweden and Great Britain! These nations are constitutional monarchies!

Constitutional Monarchies have to have popular support to last. The people of China did not support a Constitutional Monarchy. Unless you can change the events that led to the fall of the Qing Dynasty in a way that doesn't make the people hate Monarchism, it's a no-go. So please, explain.
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Postby Benian Republic » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:32 am

hmm, I wonder what's happening in Andorra...
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Postby New Jordslag » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:33 am

Benian Republic wrote:hmm, I wonder what's happening in Andorra...

Probably staying neutral.

Unless for some reason the Spanish Prince agrees with the French Prince for once and Andorra joins aids NATO.
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Postby Benian Republic » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:38 am

New Jordslag wrote:
Benian Republic wrote:hmm, I wonder what's happening in Andorra...

Probably staying neutral.

Unless for some reason the Spanish Prince agrees with the French Prince for once and Andorra joins aids NATO.

Hmm... well I wonder how Antigua and baruba are doing.
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Postby New Jordslag » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:40 am

Benian Republic wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Probably staying neutral.

Unless for some reason the Spanish Prince agrees with the French Prince for once and Andorra joins aids NATO.

Hmm... well I wonder how Antigua and baruba are doing.

Aiding NATO, most likely.
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Postby Arvenia » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:02 am

New Jordslag wrote:
Arvenia wrote:Then Xing Dynasty will be like Japan after WW2, Sweden and Great Britain! These nations are constitutional monarchies!

Constitutional Monarchies have to have popular support to last. The people of China did not support a Constitutional Monarchy. Unless you can change the events that led to the fall of the Qing Dynasty in a way that doesn't make the people hate Monarchism, it's a no-go. So please, explain.

Eh, then I remake my history where the Nationalists were crushed by Mao Zedong's army in 1946 and the Xing family later crushed the PRC in 1950.
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Postby Arvenia » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:04 am

Arvenia wrote:NS Name: Arvenia
Nation Name:
Informal - China
Formal - Xing Dynasty
Head of State: Liandong Emperor
Head of Government: Chancellor Xi Tang
Flag: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130113035253/althistory/images/c/c5/Flag-of-North-China.png
Claims: China (without Tibet), Hainan Island, Chinese Spratly Islands and Inner Mongolia (The official territory of your country)
Capital City: Beijing

Government Form: Imperial Democratic Semi-Parliamentary Hereditary Monarchy
Ideology: New Confucianism (Political, not economic)
Foreign Policy: Xing sees NATO as a friend and the USSR as a threat. (How does your nation see the world? What is its stance or position on issues outside its country?)
Civil Freedoms /10: 5
Political Freedoms /10: 5
Economic Freedoms /10: 10

Military Name: Chinese Defense Force
Military Size:
Active - 8,000,000
Reserve - 12,000,000
Military Strength (from 1 to 10): 8

Description of Your Nation's Economy: It is stabile and works good thanks to trade. It's economic system is Provisionist (Third Way).
Description of Your Nation's Government: Democratic empire under the Third Way. Having 10 parties and election held every 10 years. A monarch is succeeded through heir.
Population of Your Nation: 800,000,000

Alternate History: The Nationalists lost the war against the Communists in 1946 and exiled to Taiwan. PRC was immedietaly formed. However, in 1948, the Xing family, a vassal of the old Qing Dynasty, rebelled against the PRC with help from the USA. In 1950, Xing won the second civil war, the PRC was disbanded, the Xing Dynasty was established, the Chinese Communist Party is purged, Tibet became a free nation and Mao Zedong is executed by decapitation in Tianamnen Square. Xing fought a brief conflict against the USSR in 1969 and supported NATO. (Explain what has differed from the original timeline. Remember that any time that is appropriate for your nation is the POD.)
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History changed!
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Postby Epraria » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:09 am

Arvenia wrote:
Arvenia wrote:NS Name: Arvenia
Nation Name:
Informal - China
Formal - Xing Dynasty
Head of State: Liandong Emperor
Head of Government: Chancellor Xi Tang
Flag: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130113035253/althistory/images/c/c5/Flag-of-North-China.png
Claims: China (without Tibet), Hainan Island, Chinese Spratly Islands and Inner Mongolia (The official territory of your country)
Capital City: Beijing

Government Form: Imperial Democratic Semi-Parliamentary Hereditary Monarchy
Ideology: New Confucianism (Political, not economic)
Foreign Policy: Xing sees NATO as a friend and the USSR as a threat. (How does your nation see the world? What is its stance or position on issues outside its country?)
Civil Freedoms /10: 5
Political Freedoms /10: 5
Economic Freedoms /10: 10

Military Name: Chinese Defense Force
Military Size:
Active - 8,000,000
Reserve - 12,000,000
Military Strength (from 1 to 10): 8

Description of Your Nation's Economy: It is stabile and works good thanks to trade. It's economic system is Provisionist (Third Way).
Description of Your Nation's Government: Democratic empire under the Third Way. Having 10 parties and election held every 10 years. A monarch is succeeded through heir.
Population of Your Nation: 800,000,000

Alternate History: The Nationalists lost the war against the Communists in 1946 and exiled to Taiwan. PRC was immedietaly formed. However, in 1948, the Xing family, a vassal of the old Qing Dynasty, rebelled against the PRC with help from the USA. In 1950, Xing won the second civil war, the PRC was disbanded, the Xing Dynasty was established, the Chinese Communist Party is purged, Tibet became a free nation and Mao Zedong is executed by decapitation in Tianamnen Square. Xing fought a brief conflict against the USSR in 1969 and supported NATO. (Explain what has differed from the original timeline. Remember that any time that is appropriate for your nation is the POD.)
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History changed!

Eh no. If the reds won the civil war in 46' they would total control of china and would already urged the Xing for being bourgeoisie and enemies of the revolution.
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Postby Arvenia » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:16 am

Epraria wrote:
Arvenia wrote:History changed!

Eh no. If the reds won the civil war in 46' they would total control of china and would already urged the Xing for being bourgeoisie and enemies of the revolution.

Nooooooo! Then I should be a Capitalist Vietnam!
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Postby Benian Republic » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:24 am

NS Name: Benian Republic
Nation Name: Republic of Ireland, Eire
Head of State Gerry Adams
Image

Flag:
Image

Claims: (The official territory of your country) The whole island of Ireland, The Irish islands including rockall.
Capital City: Dublin
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Government Form: unitary, parliamentary republic
Ideology: (Political, not economic) Isolationist
Foreign Policy: Isolationist
Civil Freedoms /10: 8
Political Freedoms /10: 8
Economic Freedoms /10: 7

Military Name: Óglaigh na hÉireann
Military Size:
9,500 Active
4,371 Reserve
Military Strength (from 1 to 10:) 6

Description of Your Nation's Economy: Mostly pharmaceutical and agriculture based as well as some tourism.
Description of Your Nation's Government: A Strong government for the people to be able to put their needs in.
Population of Your Nation: 3.7 million

Alternate History: (Explain what has differed from the original timeline. Remember that any time that is appropriate for your nation is the POD.)
The republic barely regains northern Ireland in a referendum which passed due to a large amount of northern Ireland unionists immigrating to other nations such as the United States and mainland Britain, The immigration was caused by the massive economic problems that ripped across northern Ireland too fast for the British tax payer to bail them out as well as another variant of the mad cow disease affecting a lot of the sheep and cow farmers live stock and a few small spats of drought all over Ireland.
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Postby Arvenia » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:31 am

NS Name: Arvenia
Nation Name:
Formal - United Republic of Vietnam
Informal - Vietnam

Head of State: President Nguyen Van Thiêu
Head of Government: Vice President Vu Van Mau
Flag:Image
Claims: Vietnam
Capital City: Saigon
Language: Vietnamese, Cambodian, French and English

Government Form: Federal Presidential Democratic Republic
Ideology: Vietnamese Nationalism
Foreign Policy: Friendly towards USA and hostile towards USSR
Civil Freedoms /10: 5
Political Freedoms /10: 5
Economic Freedoms /10: 10

Military Name: Vietnamese Defense Force
Military Size:
Active - 486,838
Reserve - 710,000

Military Strength (from 1 to 10): 6

Description of Your Nation's Economy: Vietnam maintains a free-market economy under capitalism. It is stabile and better than what South Vietnam had before.
Description of Your Nation's Government: Like the USA, it is a republic with a President and a Vice President. It has many parties. Among those parties are the nation's two major parties, the National Social Democratic Front and the United National Liberation Front.
Population of Your Nation: 19,800,000

Alternate History: In 1970, South Vietnam won the Vietnam War after the SVA bombed the capital of North Vietnam with napalm strikes, so hard that the capital was destroyed and the North Vietnamese leader was killed. The FNL was reformed as the political UNFL. Vietnam was since the end of the Vietnam War been an united democracy under capitalism. Hanoi was since the bombing been nothing but a ruined city without population, thus URV has only 58 provinces and 4 municipalities.
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Postby Republika Srpska Party » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:33 am

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Postby New Jordslag » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:34 am

Arvenia wrote:NS Name: Arvenia
Nation Name:
Formal - United Republic of Vietnam
Informal - Vietnam

Head of State: President Nguyen Van Thiêu
Head of Government: Vice President Vu Van Mau
Flag:(Image)
Claims: Whole Vietnam and Hainan Island
Capital City: Saigon

Government Form: Federal Presidential Democratic Republic
Ideology: Vietnamese Nationalism
Foreign Policy: Friendly towards USA and hostile towards USSR
Civil Freedoms /10: 5
Political Freedoms /10: 5
Economic Freedoms /10: 10

Military Name: Vietnamese Defense Force
Military Size:
Active - 486,838
Reserve - 710,000

Military Strength (from 1 to 10): 6

Description of Your Nation's Economy: Vietnam maintains a free-market economy under capitalism. It is stabile and better than what South Vietnam had before.
Description of Your Nation's Government: Like the USA, it is a republic with a President and a Vice President. It has many parties. Among those parties are the nation's two major parties, the National Social Democratic Front and the United National Liberation Front.
Population of Your Nation: 19,800,000

Alternate History: In 1970, South Vietnam won the Vietnam War as the NVA became weakened, USA made it's military powerful and the FNL was reformed as the political UNLF. Vietnam was since the end of the Vietnam War been an united democracy under capitalism. The nation also took Hainan Island from the PRC during a brief Sino-Vietnamese border conflict in 1972 and made it a Vietnamese province.
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