A World Without America II [Invite Only, See Within / OOC ]

[Bojikami]

FYI, I don't think many nations who don't fuck their cousins will back your rebellion if it looks like it's just a front for the Habsburgs to expand their political influence. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

Austria is very close and very powerful. We can make a Balkan pincer. It's strategy.

Cossacks will help in removal of kebab.

[Unicario]

Prussia will... I guess silently hope that Maria Theresa and her entire kin die suddenly and their empire implodes.

[Luziyca]

Prussia will... I guess silently hope that Maria Theresa and her entire kin die suddenly and their empire implodes.

It can be worse. You could have a Tsar of Siberia on your hands.

[Unicario]

Prussia will... I guess silently hope that Maria Theresa and her entire kin die suddenly and their empire implodes.

It can be worse. You could have a Tsar of Siberia on your hands.

Considering all my plans went up in flames and now I have to find a way to avoid getting rape-trained by a Russo-Austrian military alliance, I'd say it's already pretty bad as it is. And I can't bank France helping Prussia because that'd be metagaming and would be liable to piss some people off. Then again, they're my countries... so...

[Ruridova]

Prussia will... I guess silently hope that Maria Theresa and her entire kin die suddenly and their empire implodes.

I don't think the Greek government would appreciate the ensuing succession crisis.


Speaking of the Greek kings, it's worth noting two things: first, Maximilian will probably take some sort of regnal name to sound more Greek, and second, that the children of Maximilian Francis will probably be Greek Orthodox.

[United Marxist Nations]

It can be worse. You could have a Tsar of Siberia on your hands.

Considering all my plans went up in flames and now I have to find a way to avoid getting rape-trained by a Russo-Austrian military alliance, I'd say it's already pretty bad as it is. And I can't bank France helping Prussia because that'd be metagaming and would be liable to piss some people off. Then again, they're my countries... so...

I'm not sure it will be an overt alliance so much as a... protection of our common interests.

[The Vaktovian Empire]

And I have a feeling Spain is going to get screwed by more than just New Spain, and New Granada.....


And since Uni has such an oppessision to me being a nation (Portugal) I plan on taking over in the future, I guess my second nation will have to be something else, albeit also a challenge. What nations are still available that are in Europe at this time?

[Ruridova]

Greece might also seek the help of their Orthodox brothers in Russia..

[The Vaktovian Empire]

What nations are still available that are in Europe at this time?

[United Marxist Nations]

What nations are still available that are in Europe at this time?

Sweden, Denmark, Portugal, and all of the Italian states are free.

[The Vaktovian Empire]

Sweden, Denmark, Portugal, and all of the Italian states are free.

Italian states as in?

[United Marxist Nations]

Sweden, Denmark, Portugal, and all of the Italian states are free.

Italian states as in?

Italian states in 1748: http://users.dickinson.edu/~rhyne/232/Two/It_1748.jpg

[Ruridova]

Sweden, Denmark, Portugal, and all of the Italian states are free.

Not all of the Italian states. I'm 2 Sicilies.

[Ruridova]

NS Name: Ruridova
Nation Claimed: the Hellenic State
Head of State: King Alexandros Apsvorgoi (Maximilian Franz von Habsburg)
Head of Government: Prime Minister Georgios Angelopolous
Capital: Athens
Government type (as of 1773): interim government (to become constitutional parliamentary monarchy)

Edited to reflect new plans for Greece.

[Unicario]

NS Name: Ruridova
Nation Claimed: the Hellenic State
Head of State: King Alexandros Apsvorgoi (Maximilian Franz von Habsburg)
Head of Government: Prime Minister Georgios Angelopolous
Capital: Athens
Government type (as of 1773): interim government (to become constitutional parliamentary monarchy)

Edited to reflect new plans for Greece.

>mrw Habsburg Greece

[Ruridova]

Edited to reflect new plans for Greece.

>mrw Habsburg Greece

Well the present plan for Greece is for there to be a conservative faction that supports the monarchy and a liberal faction that is split between those who want to make the monarchy essentially powerless and those who want to outright abolish it.

So if you're going to see the Hapsburgs removed, then you're going to have to support the constitutionalists and republicans- which would have implications for Prussia herself..

EDIT: Did I mention I want Alexandros/Maximilian Franz to marry into the House of Romanov to cement the Russo-Hellene alliance? So I want the country to be Hapsburg Greece with a hint of Romanov.

[Unicario]

>mrw Habsburg Greece
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Well the present plan for Greece is for there to be a conservative faction that supports the monarchy and a liberal faction that is split between those who want to make the monarchy essentially powerless and those who want to outright abolish it.

So if you're going to see the Hapsburgs removed, then you're going to have to support the constitutionalists and republicans- which would have implications for Prussia herself..

Considering my original plan was for Prussia to undergo a massive campaign to unify Germany after a huge liberal upheaval in the 1780s, I don't think that would've been an issue. Now, considering the aggressive Habsburg cousin-fuckers in Vienna, looks like I can't afford to be a liberal haymaker, and will have to retreat into conservatism to keep those inbreeding false Germans out.

[Unicario]

Considering all my plans went up in flames and now I have to find a way to avoid getting rape-trained by a Russo-Austrian military alliance, I'd say it's already pretty bad as it is. And I can't bank France helping Prussia because that'd be metagaming and would be liable to piss some people off. Then again, they're my countries... so...

I'm not sure it will be an overt alliance so much as a... protection of our common interests.

"common interests" being "in what ways can we beat up on those Prussians".

[Pimps Inc]

Do I have to wait until the next century to initiate the Mexican Independence.

[Unicario]

Do I have to wait until the next century to initiate the Mexican Independence.

Nope, but you have to wait until the American Revolution, whenever Bojikami determines it shall start flaring up (preferrably in the realm of OTL's start).

[Unicario]

EDIT: Did I mention I want Alexandros/Maximilian Franz to marry into the House of Romanov to cement the Russo-Hellene alliance? So I want the country to be Hapsburg Greece with a hint of Romanov.

[Ruridova]

EDIT: Did I mention I want Alexandros/Maximilian Franz to marry into the House of Romanov to cement the Russo-Hellene alliance? So I want the country to be Hapsburg Greece with a hint of Romanov.

I am trying to guarantee a successful war of independence here.

[Pimps Inc]

Do I have to wait until the next century to initiate the Mexican Independence.

Nope, but you have to wait until the American Revolution, whenever Bojikami determines it shall start flaring up (preferrably in the realm of OTL's start).

But there won't be a United States, right?

[United Marxist Nations]

EDIT: Did I mention I want Alexandros/Maximilian Franz to marry into the House of Romanov to cement the Russo-Hellene alliance? So I want the country to be Hapsburg Greece with a hint of Romanov.

He may as well be, because homie don't play marriage alliances this early.

[Unicario]

Nope, but you have to wait until the American Revolution, whenever Bojikami determines it shall start flaring up (preferrably in the realm of OTL's start).

But there won't be a United States, right?

No, but there will be nations in North America to counter you.