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by Bojikami » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:24 pm
by Ruridova » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:25 pm
by Epraria » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:06 am
by The Vaktovian Empire » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:16 pm
by Unicario » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:25 pm
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:And yes, yes I did just create two non-real African tribes in the Southwest of the West Africa region. I mean, throw in a bit of creative history in the mix, right? Realize that post is also moderately believable and contemporary, so it isn't breaking any boundaries of credibility or believeableness. However, I won't be applying for either of those because they are basically NPC's I will be building around Spanish culture but also introducing original African culture and techniques to. Kinda of a bit of a project.
@Uni, so she doesn't get upset.... Realize that the Kelmaria State does not go over the IRL border of Guinea, which I will be adding them to a Prototype map of which you can edit to update for your "official" version, because I want to make sure the borders are right. In effect, Kelmaria and Gatemalia, and whatever other small tribes I encorporate into this little pet project won't go out of the sphere of the general IRL lands of Liberia, Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Guinea-Bissau (where Spain currently possesses a colony as far as the map anyway as of right now)
by Unicario » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:31 pm
by The Vaktovian Empire » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:35 pm
Unicario wrote:The Vaktovian Empire wrote:And yes, yes I did just create two non-real African tribes in the Southwest of the West Africa region. I mean, throw in a bit of creative history in the mix, right? Realize that post is also moderately believable and contemporary, so it isn't breaking any boundaries of credibility or believeableness. However, I won't be applying for either of those because they are basically NPC's I will be building around Spanish culture but also introducing original African culture and techniques to. Kinda of a bit of a project.
@Uni, so she doesn't get upset.... Realize that the Kelmaria State does not go over the IRL border of Guinea, which I will be adding them to a Prototype map of which you can edit to update for your "official" version, because I want to make sure the borders are right. In effect, Kelmaria and Gatemalia, and whatever other small tribes I encorporate into this little pet project won't go out of the sphere of the general IRL lands of Liberia, Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Guinea-Bissau (where Spain currently possesses a colony as far as the map anyway as of right now)
Doesn't matter, Egypt wants no European settlement of West Africa. At all. Period. Egypt will relentlessly pursue a campaign to weaken your influence or outright break it.
EDIT: Also, where does Spain have colonies in West Africa? I call hax.
by Unicario » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:36 pm
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:Unicario wrote:
Doesn't matter, Egypt wants no European settlement of West Africa. At all. Period. Egypt will relentlessly pursue a campaign to weaken your influence or outright break it.
EDIT: Also, where does Spain have colonies in West Africa? I call hax.
I never said I had colonies in West Africa.....
(where Spain currently possesses a colony as far as the map anyway as of right now)
by The Vaktovian Empire » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:37 pm
Unicario wrote:VETO. Vaktovian Empire never applied to play as "Gatemalia" or whatever. Therefore he cannot RP their existence. Disregard Vak's last post.
EDIT:
VETO 2: Somehow your little tribes have urbanized, turned into westernized powers and become "prosperous" overnight? Nope, bullshit. Retcon.
VETO 3: Your tribes have spontaneously appeared as *Kingdoms*, when most of West Africa, the pre-existing power base had long-term origin, primarily around the remnants of the Songhai and Mali Empires.
by The Vaktovian Empire » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:38 pm
by Unicario » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:39 pm
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:Unicario wrote:VETO. Vaktovian Empire never applied to play as "Gatemalia" or whatever. Therefore he cannot RP their existence. Disregard Vak's last post.
EDIT:
VETO 2: Somehow your little tribes have urbanized, turned into westernized powers and become "prosperous" overnight? Nope, bullshit. Retcon.
VETO 3: Your tribes have spontaneously appeared as *Kingdoms*, when most of West Africa, the pre-existing power base had long-term origin, primarily around the remnants of the Songhai and Mali Empires.
1. Never applied because they were a NPC.
2. Never said urbanization, besides in the port cities, based on the 6 month effect Spain has been talking to the specific African state in question.
3. There were many warlords in Africa, mine is just going by the title of King, because of simplicity sake and again, Western influence.
4. Consider this my formal resignation from this RP.
by The Vaktovian Empire » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:43 pm
Unicario wrote:The Vaktovian Empire wrote:
1. Never applied because they were a NPC.
2. Never said urbanization, besides in the port cities, based on the 6 month effect Spain has been talking to the specific African state in question.
3. There were many warlords in Africa, mine is just going by the title of King, because of simplicity sake and again, Western influence.
4. Consider this my formal resignation from this RP.
1. You can't play an NPC as a non-OP, especially because of the fact you're using it entirely as a means of expanding Egypt's power.
2. "6 month effect", this is the first time you've mentioned them in the entire RP. No, quit making excuses
3. Yeah, but your little Kingdom was born out of nowhere, never mentioned before, because the tribe is imaginary.
4. ... @_@
by Unicario » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:44 pm
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:Unicario wrote:
1. You can't play an NPC as a non-OP, especially because of the fact you're using it entirely as a means of expanding Egypt's power.
2. "6 month effect", this is the first time you've mentioned them in the entire RP. No, quit making excuses
3. Yeah, but your little Kingdom was born out of nowhere, never mentioned before, because the tribe is imaginary.
4. ... @_@
3. Yeah, tribe is imaginary because guess what... isn't the point of this RP to have semi-realism involved? There was no legit state controlling ALL the territory in Africa in 1775. So yeah, I did make them up. I was trying to be creative. The Spanish were never going to effectively conquer either, it was just, as I said, a pet project, that I would be doing to occupy my time since I have no major adversaries atm and the IC is getting dull. But ya know, don't read into my posts and just skim them over not trying to conceive what I might actually be trying to do, because who am I right?
EDIT: Yeah, resignation is in the books.
by The Vaktovian Empire » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:55 pm
by Unicario » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:57 pm
by United Marxist Nations » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:01 pm
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:And yes, yes I did just create two non-real African tribes in the Southwest of the West Africa region. I mean, throw in a bit of creative history in the mix, right? Realize that post is also moderately believable and contemporary, so it isn't breaking any boundaries of credibility or believeableness. However, I won't be applying for either of those because they are basically NPC's I will be building around Spanish culture but also introducing original African culture and techniques to. Kinda of a bit of a project.
@Uni, so she doesn't get upset.... Realize that the Kelmaria State does not go over the IRL border of Guinea, which I will be adding them to a Prototype map of which you can edit to update for your "official" version, because I want to make sure the borders are right. In effect, Kelmaria and Gatemalia, and whatever other small tribes I encorporate into this little pet project won't go out of the sphere of the general IRL lands of Liberia, Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Guinea-Bissau (where Spain currently possesses a colony as far as the map anyway as of right now)
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by Luziyca » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:09 pm
by Bojikami » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:10 pm
by Luziyca » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:12 pm
Bojikami wrote:Vak, you need to calm down. I've no qualms against you making fictional tribes, but you didn't even apply for these tribes, and somehow they are fully modern without any real explanation? I'm sorry, that's implausible, even in a world with the NGF, a modernised China, and other gamey things. You can only push the thing so far, you know?
by Unicario » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:12 pm
Luziyca wrote:Bojikami wrote:Vak, you need to calm down. I've no qualms against you making fictional tribes, but you didn't even apply for these tribes, and somehow they are fully modern without any real explanation? I'm sorry, that's implausible, even in a world with the NGF, a modernised China, and other gamey things. You can only push the thing so far, you know?
Indeed. Though Bojikami, I really doubt that your China was as modern as mine was in AWWA1. I mean, the Qing went as far as colonizing Africa, for crying out loud!
by Bojikami » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:13 pm
Luziyca wrote:Bojikami wrote:Vak, you need to calm down. I've no qualms against you making fictional tribes, but you didn't even apply for these tribes, and somehow they are fully modern without any real explanation? I'm sorry, that's implausible, even in a world with the NGF, a modernised China, and other gamey things. You can only push the thing so far, you know?
Indeed. Though Bojikami, I really doubt that your China was as modern as mine was in AWWA1. I mean, the Qing went as far as colonizing Africa, for crying out loud!
by Luziyca » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:16 pm
Unicario wrote:I just want it to go on the record that I have a really large amount of power encoded in the RP's rules that let me exercise influence over the world's affairs and people's canons, but I don't like doing that, so I do try to be relatively fair, but sometimes I just can't.Luziyca wrote:Indeed. Though Bojikami, I really doubt that your China was as modern as mine was in AWWA1. I mean, the Qing went as far as colonizing Africa, for crying out loud!
Luz, shush, your China was carried on the back of Japan.
Bojikami wrote:Luziyca wrote:Indeed. Though Bojikami, I really doubt that your China was as modern as mine was in AWWA1. I mean, the Qing went as far as colonizing Africa, for crying out loud!
The Ming are on tier with Europe, but I don't forsee anything like African colonisation until like the 1800s like everyone else.
by Bojikami » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:17 pm
Luziyca wrote:Unicario wrote:I just want it to go on the record that I have a really large amount of power encoded in the RP's rules that let me exercise influence over the world's affairs and people's canons, but I don't like doing that, so I do try to be relatively fair, but sometimes I just can't.
Luz, shush, your China was carried on the back of Japan.
Yeah, I understand that.
Also, ha.Bojikami wrote:The Ming are on tier with Europe, but I don't forsee anything like African colonisation until like the 1800s like everyone else.
Ah, I did not realize that. Korea may try and have a go at it in the 1800s. Also, there will be a revolution in 1848 in Korea that causes the Empire of Korea to be formed.
by Unicario » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:23 pm
by Luziyca » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:25 pm
Bojikami wrote:Luziyca wrote:Yeah, I understand that.
Also, ha.
Ah, I did not realize that. Korea may try and have a go at it in the 1800s. Also, there will be a revolution in 1848 in Korea that causes the Empire of Korea to be formed.
I did tell you that China would be willing to elevating Korea to normal tributary status in the 1800s. You can still be an empire and be under the tributary system (example: Empire of Dai Viet)
Unicario wrote:For all formality, I hereby accept Vak's resignation and hereby cast him out.
That being said, is anybody overly opposed to be using OP power to invoke a Capellite vs. Bourbonnaise civil war in Spain? I figure it's a good plot element to throw in now that Vak left. France is still agitating for Bourbon restoration, and Capello can't have complete support from his nobility.
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