AWWA-Yesterday, Today, and Forever(OOC-Closed)

[Ruridova]

ATL QUOTES

"...the Venezuelans are very good at this sort of thing. I'm speaking to you from behind a pair of fake Ray-Bans, wearing a fake Armani jacket, carrying a fake Louis Vuitton bag, in which we find a fake iPad and a fake iPhone. And if we consult my fake Omega watch, we see that it's 2:35, probably, which means that it's time to pop into the fake Starbucks over there for a cup of fake coffee. It seems, then, that the expression 'copyright infringement' doesn't translate very well into Venezuelan Spanish."
- Jeremy Clarkson, host of the British TV show Top Gear


OTL, this quote was said(in a slightly different state) by Clarkson in an episode in China. Seeing that ATL Venezuela has no recognition of any international copyright law, it makes more sense for the stereotype about shitty bootleg products and the quote to be applied to Venezuela.

[Luziyca]

I think the Confederates will hate the play that Guyane pumped out...

[Unicario]

ATL QUOTES

"...the Venezuelans are very good at this sort of thing. I'm speaking to you from behind a pair of fake Ray-Bans, wearing a fake Armani jacket, carrying a fake Louis Vuitton bag, in which we find a fake iPad and a fake iPhone. And if we consult my fake Omega watch, we see that it's 2:35, probably, which means that it's time to pop into the fake Starbucks over there for a cup of fake coffee. It seems, then, that the expression 'copyright infringement' doesn't translate very well into Venezuelan Spanish."
- Jeremy Clarkson, host of the British TV show Top Gear

"If we were to have a war between the German Empire and Canada, I think France would probably win."
- Takeshi Kitano on Comedy Hour during the 2014 Czechoslovak War

"Yesterday, December Seventh, 1891, a date which will live in infamy, the Empire of Japan was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Confederate States of America. We will gain the inevitable triumph, so help us Meiji..."
- Emperor Alexander I addressing an emergency meeting of the Japanese Senate on December 8, 1891.

"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
- Incorrectly attributed to Thomas A. Hendricks, President of the CSA on December 8, 1891, real source unknown.

"You cannot invade the Japanese mainland. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
- Unknown Confederate military commander on Okinawa, 1892

"Liberty secured by submission to foreign will is not liberty at all."
- Kim Il-sung, 1964

"We the People of the Empire of Japan, hold these truths to be self-evident, that all humans, of all creeds, races, colors and faiths are equal, and are invested by their creator with the capacity to great good, and great evil, and the capacity to know right from wrong, therefore their sovereign right to personal liberties shall never be infringed upon..."
- Preface to the Japanese Constitution, ratified 1789

[Ruridova]

I think the Confederates will hate the play that Guyane pumped out...

The CSA views the Guyanese as more of a minor nuisance, like a less despotic but more self-righteous Caucasia.

[Ruridova]

ATL QUOTES

"...the Venezuelans are very good at this sort of thing. I'm speaking to you from behind a pair of fake Ray-Bans, wearing a fake Armani jacket, carrying a fake Louis Vuitton bag, in which we find a fake iPad and a fake iPhone. And if we consult my fake Omega watch, we see that it's 2:35, probably, which means that it's time to pop into the fake Starbucks over there for a cup of fake coffee. It seems, then, that the expression 'copyright infringement' doesn't translate very well into Venezuelan Spanish."
- Jeremy Clarkson, host of the British TV show Top Gear

"If we were to have a war between the German Empire and Canada, I think France would probably win."
- Takeshi Kitano on Comedy Hour during the 2014 Czechoslovak War

"Yesterday, December Seventh, 1891, a date which will live in infamy, the Empire of Japan was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Confederate States of America. We will gain the inevitable triumph, so help us Meiji..."
- Emperor Alexander I addressing an emergency meeting of the Japanese Senate on December 8, 1891.

"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
- Incorrectly attributed to Thomas A. Hendricks, President of the CSA on December 8, 1891, real source unknown.

"You cannot invade the Japanese mainland. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
- Unknown Confederate military commander on Okinawa, 1892

"Liberty secured by submission to foreign will is not liberty at all."
- Kim Il-sung, 1964

"We welcome change and brotherhood, for we believe that freedom and brotherhood go together, that the advance of world peace can only strengthen the cause of human liberty. There is one sign the German government can make that would be unmistakable, that would advance dramatically the cause of freedom and peace. Chancellor Kohl, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Holy Roman Empire and its allies of Hungary and Denmark, if you seek reconciliation, come here to this gate. Chancellor Kohl, open this gate. Chancellor Kohl, tear down this wall!
...
"As I looked out a moment ago from the town hall, looking towards Bratislava just across the Iron Curtain, I noticed words crudely spray-painted upon the wall, perhaps by a young German. It said, 'This wall will fall. Beliefs become reality.' Yes, across Central Europe, this wall will fall. For it cannot withstand fraternity; it cannot withstand truth. This wall cannot withstand freedom."
- Ronald Reagan, 1987, speaking in the German town of Kittsee, near the Czechoslovak border

"We the People of the Empire of Japan, hold these truths to be self-evident, that all humans, of all creeds, races, colors and faiths are equal, and are invested by their creator with the capacity to great good, and great evil, and the capacity to know right from wrong, therefore their sovereign right to personal liberties shall never be infringed upon..."
- Preface to the Japanese Constitution, ratified 1789

"We, the People, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and ensure the blessings of liberty unto ourselves and our posterity do ordain and establish this Constitution for the Confederate States of America."
- Preamble to the CS Constitution, ratified 1834

(Coming once I'm on my computer:
Ain't I a Woman, S. Truth
On Nuclear Disarmament, C. Sagan
I Have a Dream, MLK
Inaugural Address, JFK
Arlington Address, T. Hendricks
Some apocryphal quote about Pearl Harbor)

[Bojikami]

ATL QUOTES

"...the Venezuelans are very good at this sort of thing. I'm speaking to you from behind a pair of fake Ray-Bans, wearing a fake Armani jacket, carrying a fake Louis Vuitton bag, in which we find a fake iPad and a fake iPhone. And if we consult my fake Omega watch, we see that it's 2:35, probably, which means that it's time to pop into the fake Starbucks over there for a cup of fake coffee. It seems, then, that the expression 'copyright infringement' doesn't translate very well into Venezuelan Spanish."
- Jeremy Clarkson, host of the British TV show Top Gear

"If we were to have a war between the German Empire and Canada, I think France would probably win."
- Takeshi Kitano on Comedy Hour during the 2014 Czechoslovak War

"Yesterday, December Seventh, 1891, a date which will live in infamy, the Empire of Japan was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Confederate States of America. We will gain the inevitable triumph, so help us Meiji..."
- Emperor Alexander I addressing an emergency meeting of the Japanese Senate on December 8, 1891.

"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
- Incorrectly attributed to Thomas A. Hendricks, President of the CSA on December 8, 1891, real source unknown.

"You cannot invade the Japanese mainland. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
- Unknown Confederate military commander on Okinawa, 1892

"Liberty secured by submission to foreign will is not liberty at all."
- Kim Il-sung, 1964

"We welcome change and brotherhood, for we believe that freedom and brotherhood go together, that the advance of world peace can only strengthen the cause of human liberty. There is one sign the German government can make that would be unmistakable, that would advance dramatically the cause of freedom and peace. Chancellor Kohl, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Holy Roman Empire and its allies of Hungary and Denmark, if you seek reconciliation, come here to this gate. Chancellor Kohl, open this gate. Chancellor Kohl, tear down this wall!
...
"As I looked out a moment ago from the town hall, looking towards Bratislava just across the Iron Curtain, I noticed words crudely spray-painted upon the wall, perhaps by a young German. It said, 'This wall will fall. Beliefs become reality.' Yes, across Central Europe, this wall will fall. For it cannot withstand fraternity; it cannot withstand truth. This wall cannot withstand freedom."
- Ronald Reagan, 1987, speaking in the German town of Kittsee, near the Czechoslovak border

"We the People of the Empire of Japan, hold these truths to be self-evident, that all humans, of all creeds, races, colors and faiths are equal, and are invested by their creator with the capacity to great good, and great evil, and the capacity to know right from wrong, therefore their sovereign right to personal liberties shall never be infringed upon..."
- Preface to the Japanese Constitution, ratified 1789

"We, the People, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and ensure the blessings of liberty unto ourselves and our posterity do ordain and establish this Constitution for the Confederate States of America."
- Preamble to the CS Constitution, ratified 1834

"The great strength of the totalitarian state is that it forces those who fear it to imitate it."
-Oleksandr Kostiuk, 1903

"Death solves all problems. No man, no problem."

"Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed."
-Stanislav Pavlenko

"The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them in parliament."
-Grigori Petrovsky, on western governments

"It is about time this "Axis of Evil" is dealt a good blow and is put back into their place."
-Horatius Agrioli, 1894

"The truth is that men are tired of liberty."

"Every anarchist is a baffled dictator."
-Benito Mussolini, 1901

"The socialist movement in Venezuela and the feeling of Pan-LatinAmericanism are inseparable."
-Che Guevara

"What the northerners do not understand is that Venezuela, and other south American nations do not apperecite being fearmongered into the same hegemonic empires from which we struggled to break free."
-Esteban Lopez, 1897

"The end may justify the means as long as there is something that justifies the end."
-Antoni Belinsky, to Stanislav Pavlenko on the Balkan Wars.

"Saying you do not believe in the use of force is like saying you do not believe in gravity."
-Antoni Belinsky, 1891

"It is easy to romanticize poverty, to see poor people as inherently lacking agency and will. It is easy to strip them of human dignity, to reduce them to objects of pity. This has never been clearer than in the view of Africa from the American media, in which we are shown poverty and conflicts without any context."

"I am the hero of Africa."
-His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Amadi Nkruma, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the Roman Empire in Africa in General and Chad in Particular*

*Yes. He is ATL's Idi Amin.

[Unicario]

ATL QUOTES

"...the Venezuelans are very good at this sort of thing. I'm speaking to you from behind a pair of fake Ray-Bans, wearing a fake Armani jacket, carrying a fake Louis Vuitton bag, in which we find a fake iPad and a fake iPhone. And if we consult my fake Omega watch, we see that it's 2:35, probably, which means that it's time to pop into the fake Starbucks over there for a cup of fake coffee. It seems, then, that the expression 'copyright infringement' doesn't translate very well into Venezuelan Spanish."
- Jeremy Clarkson, host of the British TV show Top Gear

"If we were to have a war between the German Empire and Canada, I think France would probably win."
- Takeshi Kitano on Comedy Hour during the 2014 Czechoslovak War

"Yesterday, December Seventh, 1891, a date which will live in infamy, the Empire of Japan was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Confederate States of America. We will gain the inevitable triumph, so help us Meiji..."
- Emperor Alexander I addressing an emergency meeting of the Japanese Senate on December 8, 1891.

"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
- Incorrectly attributed to Thomas A. Hendricks, President of the CSA on December 8, 1891, real source unknown.

"You cannot invade the Japanese mainland. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
- Unknown Confederate military commander on Okinawa, 1892

"Liberty secured by submission to foreign will is not liberty at all."
- Kim Il-sung, 1964

"We welcome change and brotherhood, for we believe that freedom and brotherhood go together, that the advance of world peace can only strengthen the cause of human liberty. There is one sign the German government can make that would be unmistakable, that would advance dramatically the cause of freedom and peace. Chancellor Kohl, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Holy Roman Empire and its allies of Hungary and Denmark, if you seek reconciliation, come here to this gate. Chancellor Kohl, open this gate. Chancellor Kohl, tear down this wall!
...
"As I looked out a moment ago from the town hall, looking towards Bratislava just across the Iron Curtain, I noticed words crudely spray-painted upon the wall, perhaps by a young German. It said, 'This wall will fall. Beliefs become reality.' Yes, across Central Europe, this wall will fall. For it cannot withstand fraternity; it cannot withstand truth. This wall cannot withstand freedom."
- Ronald Reagan, 1987, speaking in the German town of Kittsee, near the Czechoslovak border

"We the People of the Empire of Japan, hold these truths to be self-evident, that all humans, of all creeds, races, colors and faiths are equal, and are invested by their creator with the capacity to great good, and great evil, and the capacity to know right from wrong, therefore their sovereign right to personal liberties shall never be infringed upon..."
- Preface to the Japanese Constitution, ratified 1789

"We, the People, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and ensure the blessings of liberty unto ourselves and our posterity do ordain and establish this Constitution for the Confederate States of America."
- Preamble to the CS Constitution, ratified 1834

"The great strength of the totalitarian state is that it forces those who fear it to imitate it."
-Oleksandr Kostiuk, 1903

"Death solves all problems. No man, no problem."

"Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed."
-Stanislav Pavlenko

"The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them in parliament."
-Grigori Petrovsky, on western governments

"It is about time this "Axis of Evil" is dealt a good blow and is put back into their place."
-Horatius Agrioli, 1894

"The truth is that men are tired of liberty."

"Every anarchist is a baffled dictator."
-Benito Mussolini, 1901

"The socialist movement in Venezuela and the feeling of Pan-LatinAmericanism are inseparable."
-Che Guevara

"What the northerners do not understand is that Venezuela, and other south American nations do not apperecite being fearmongered into the same hegemonic empires from which we struggled to break free."
-Esteban Lopez, 1897

"The end may justify the means as long as there is something that justifies the end."
-Antoni Belinsky, to Stanislav Pavlenko on the Balkan Wars.

"Saying you do not believe in the use of force is like saying you do not believe in gravity."
-Antoni Belinsky, 1891

"It is easy to romanticize poverty, to see poor people as inherently lacking agency and will. It is easy to strip them of human dignity, to reduce them to objects of pity. This has never been clearer than in the view of Africa from the American media, in which we are shown poverty and conflicts without any context."

"I am the hero of Africa."
-His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Amadi Nkruma, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the Roman Empire in Africa in General and Chad in Particular*

*Yes. He is ATL's Idi Amin.

"I am the only rightful Emperor of Asia. Asia shall be one house under my rule."
- Emperor Puyi after being declared Regent by the Kenpaitei, 1979

"The blood of the fascists shall water the gardens of Japan, and we shall forever relish in their defeat, for they shall not hold up against the triumph of the people."
- Empress Akane, 1979

"The final solution to the infidel question is extermination. I shall rid the world of all others but Indonesian Muslims. Every nation shall burn under the mighty boots of Indonesia, and we shall rid the world of Japan, of China, of Britain, of Germany and of the Confederacy, the Islamic World shall be enlightened under one house!"
- Admiral Wahyu of Indonesia, 1958

[Unicario]

Lots of famous people born in Brooklyn. Oh, this is going to be delightfully fun. I take it back, Mickey Rooney won't be loathed for Breakfast at Tiffany's... because he's going to be Japanese-born... so we'd just go "OH YOU."

[Bojikami]

Lots of famous people born in Brooklyn. Oh, this is going to be delightfully fun. I take it back, Mickey Rooney won't be loathed for Breakfast at Tiffany's... because he's going to be Japanese-born... so we'd just go "OH YOU."

(Image)

Not to mention that Trotsky was born in Ukraine...

[Unicario]

Imperial Baseball League

Team Name - Year Founded

Tokyo Tigers - 1869
Yokohama Koi - 1869
Osaka Samurai - 1869
Niigata Warriors - 1869
Okayama Kings - 1870
Fukuoka Bishops - 1872
Hiroshima Blacksmiths - 1873
Nagasaki Whales - 1873
Toyohara Tribals - 1880
Fukushima Kami - 1881
Pusan Swordfish - 1881
Seoul Suns - 1881
Pyongyang - 1881
Taipei Eagles - 1882
Okinawa Islanders - 1882
Akikoshi Death Warriors - 1884
Hanoi Hurricanes - 1884
Hue Hell-Raisers - 1884
Saigon Smashers - 1886
Luang Prabang Lions - 1887
Panomping Penguins - 1888
Singapore Silence - 1888
Takaishi Atlantics - 1889

[The Vaktovian Empire]

Could someone explain the significance of Takeshi Kitano's quote about Germany and Canada?

[Unicario]

Could someone explain the significance of Takeshi Kitano's quote about Germany and Canada?

Germany got it's ass beaten by Czechs, Hungarians and Danes, and Canada got nearly overran by Quebecois and Confederates. He's implying that if the two went to war, France, who is known for also backing out of wars like a pussy, would win.

[The Vaktovian Empire]

Could someone explain the significance of Takeshi Kitano's quote about Germany and Canada?

Germany got it's ass beaten by Czechs, Hungarians and Danes, and Canada got nearly overran by Quebecois and Confederates. He's implying that if the two went to war, France, who is known for also backing out of wars like a pussy, would win.

Hey. We only backed out of one war.

[Unicario]

Doesn't change anything.

[Ruridova]

Lots of famous people born in Brooklyn. Oh, this is going to be delightfully fun. I take it back, Mickey Rooney won't be loathed for Breakfast at Tiffany's... because he's going to be Japanese-born... so we'd just go "OH YOU."

(Image)

Not to mention that Trotsky was born in Ukraine...

Nuuu don't take my Zionist kibbutzim-exporting kickass communist pls

[Bojikami]

Not to mention that Trotsky was born in Ukraine...

Nuuu don't take my Zionist kibbutzim-exporting kickass communist pls

But you took the Geneva conventions from me...

[Ruridova]

Nuuu don't take my Zionist kibbutzim-exporting kickass communist pls

But you took the Geneva conventions from me...

But Trotsky exporting communism to Rum. And Russia. And the CSA. And probably Germany too.

[Unicario]

But you took the Geneva conventions from me...

But Trotsky exporting communism to Rum. And Russia. And the CSA. And probably Germany too.

Except would those countries realistically have communist revolutions in them?

[Ruridova]

But Trotsky exporting communism to Rum. And Russia. And the CSA. And probably Germany too.

Except would those countries realistically have communist revolutions in them?

Not necessarily revolutions(well, Germany will have the 1910s rebellions, and that DDR idea is still a possibility, and there will be a rebellion in Russia where the communists play a role), but communism would be far more prominent in those countries than in RL(the only exemption being Russia). Also, because communism isn't as stigmatized in the CSA as ATL, we all get to point and laugh at Joseph McCarthy as the CSA realizes immediately that he's a lunatic.

[Bojikami]

Except would those countries realistically have communist revolutions in them?

Not necessarily revolutions(well, Germany will have the 1910s rebellions, and that DDR idea is still a possibility, and there will be a rebellion in Russia where the communists play a role), but communism would be far more prominent in those countries than in RL(the only exemption being Russia). Also, because communism isn't as stigmatized in the CSA as ATL, we all get to point and laugh at Joseph McCarthy as the CSA realizes immediately that he's a lunatic.

And all because of one writer? Ruri, this timeline has plenty of leftist writers or the potential for such.

[Unicario]

I might have someone question why the von Lichts change their name all the time.

[Ruridova]

Not necessarily revolutions(well, Germany will have the 1910s rebellions, and that DDR idea is still a possibility, and there will be a rebellion in Russia where the communists play a role), but communism would be far more prominent in those countries than in RL(the only exemption being Russia). Also, because communism isn't as stigmatized in the CSA as ATL, we all get to point and laugh at Joseph McCarthy as the CSA realizes immediately that he's a lunatic.

And all because of one writer? Ruri, this timeline has plenty of leftist writers or the potential for such.

Is it really that important to you that I retcon Trotsky being a Zionist leader and the author of Animal Farm? Because it screws up several things in the plotlines I've created, and unless you really really really want him, I don't want to fuck all this up.

[Ruridova]

I might have someone question why the von Lichts change their name all the time.

I think there's an explanation on the TVTropes page, actually.

[Bojikami]

And all because of one writer? Ruri, this timeline has plenty of leftist writers or the potential for such.

Is it really that important to you that I retcon Trotsky being a Zionist leader and the author of Animal Farm? Because it screws up several things in the plotlines I've created, and unless you really really really want him, I don't want to fuck all this up.

Ruri I'm sure that the Zionist leader can go to a Russian, as I'm sure there are several prominent Russian Jews.

And you could just give Animal farm to a von licht.

[Unicario]

I might have someone question why the von Lichts change their name all the time.

I think there's an explanation on the TVTropes page, actually.

"The von Lichts almost always adopt local names when they show up in a new country. Fon Likht, Light, Fengliguoda, de Lict, af Lys, Martali..."

That's still weird, the Eichemann family only changed names once, when Ferdinand fled Rum for an internal exile, and they kept the name all the way into the 21st century.