A War to End All Wars[WWI Roleplay, OOC]

[Max Worshippers]

They'd have to attack Belgium or Spain or something for the UK to take up arms against them.

If they don't attack Belgium, the German war plans will go to shit. Literally their entire plan for war against France for dozens of years had been the Schlieffen plan; the moment the mobilisation button was hit, everything was set into action for that one, single plan. Unless you get Wilhelm II to randomly override literally everything, pissing off most of the army in the process, they're going to enact the Schlieffen plan. The only other strategy is to stop the bullrush and pile on the numbers at the French border, which would take longer, be extremely disorganised, and only be a stopgap measure until a proper other strategy was devised, which would probably fall to bits because of the annoyed generals, messed up battle plans already, troops taking heavy casualties, etc.

1. I haven't mobilized yet. Therefore the Schlieffen plan has not been enacted yet.
2. I think that if I can lull the French into attacking me I can successfully counter attack.
3. I can defend Elsasss-Lothringren very well and fight a war of attrition.
4. With a position so close to Paris I can bombard it nightly.

[Das Kaiserreich der Cruor]

Here you go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYziyzv ... f8Y0slKEjw

Germany doesn't need to invade Belgium if they seek British help BEFORE the war. That's what AH did with Germany before declaring war on Serbia.

[Fascist Republic Of Bermuda]

Reserve Romania.

[Paketo]

If they don't attack Belgium, the German war plans will go to shit. Literally their entire plan for war against France for dozens of years had been the Schlieffen plan; the moment the mobilisation button was hit, everything was set into action for that one, single plan. Unless you get Wilhelm II to randomly override literally everything, pissing off most of the army in the process, they're going to enact the Schlieffen plan. The only other strategy is to stop the bullrush and pile on the numbers at the French border, which would take longer, be extremely disorganised, and only be a stopgap measure until a proper other strategy was devised, which would probably fall to bits because of the annoyed generals, messed up battle plans already, troops taking heavy casualties, etc.

1. I haven't mobilized yet. Therefore the Schlieffen plan has not been enacted yet.
2. I think that if I can lull the French into attacking me I can successfully counter attack.
3. I can defend Elsasss-Lothringren very well and fight a war of attrition.
4. With a position so close to Paris I can bombard it nightly.

the only way to bombard paris will be the Paris Gun

[Soviet Chernarus]

Here you go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYziyzv ... f8Y0slKEjw

Germany doesn't need to invade Belgium if they seek British help BEFORE the war. That's what AH did with Germany before declaring war on Serbia.

But they didn't, and according to the IC it takes place right after the assassination of the Archduke.

[Paketo]

Here you go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYziyzv ... f8Y0slKEjw

Germany doesn't need to invade Belgium if they seek British help BEFORE the war. That's what AH did with Germany before declaring war on Serbia.

no, germany gave them a blank check afterwards saying, any amount you want, we will give it if you declare war

[Soviet Chernarus]

Maybe you could just completely prevent the entire war if Germany pressured Austria-Hungary into not declaring war on Serbia? Dunno if it would be plausible in a real life scenario but its just right after the assassination

[Max Worshippers]

Here you go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYziyzv ... f8Y0slKEjw

Germany doesn't need to invade Belgium if they seek British help BEFORE the war. That's what AH did with Germany before declaring war on Serbia.

no, germany gave them a blank check afterwards saying, any amount you want, we will give it if you declare war

Tanganyika and Namibia are awfully expensive.

[Paketo]

Maybe you could just completely prevent the entire war if Germany pressured Austria-Hungary into not declaring war on Serbia? Dunno if it would be plausible in a real life scenario but its just right after the assassination

no, everyone wants war. they want to prove that they are superior to their neighbors. everyone is just wanting for that spark and the archduke is that spark

[Max Worshippers]

Maybe you could just completely prevent the entire war if Germany pressured Austria-Hungary into not declaring war on Serbia? Dunno if it would be plausible in a real life scenario but its just right after the assassination

no, everyone wants war. they want to prove that they are superior to their neighbors. everyone is just wanting for that spark and the archduke is that spark

Yeah Germany needs this war.

[Das Kaiserreich der Cruor]

Here you go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYziyzv ... f8Y0slKEjw

Germany doesn't need to invade Belgium if they seek British help BEFORE the war. That's what AH did with Germany before declaring war on Serbia.

no, germany gave them a blank check afterwards saying, any amount you want, we will give it if you declare war

I'd quote two posts at once, but I don't think I can.

The two posts above are both pretty wrong. Germany did give Austria a blank check, however they promised to protect Austria should Russia mobilize, in which they did and so the war escalated from there.

@Chernarus post about UK

The war doesn't immediately start with the assassination of the Archduke. There's about a month or so in between, in which is the time that Austria gave Serbia the ultimatum, Russia gearing up for war, Austria getting Germany's back, etc. The UK declared war on Germany a day after the German invasion of Belgium. France joined because of their alliance with Russia. Should Germany or Austria-Hungary go to the UK and ask for a military alliance or whatever, the UK could consider. The British and the French are both kind of EH on their relation. It's just really going to depend on what the countries in the RP do.

@Chernarus post about AH&Serbia

War in the RP will be forced anyway if it doesn't happen by 1925.

[Soviet Chernarus]

no, germany gave them a blank check afterwards saying, any amount you want, we will give it if you declare war

I'd quote two posts at once, but I don't think I can.

The two posts above are both pretty wrong. Germany did give Austria a blank check, however they promised to protect Austria should Russia mobilize, in which they did and so the war escalated from there.

@Chernarus post about UK

The war doesn't immediately start with the assassination of the Archduke. There's about a month or so in between, in which is the time that Austria gave Serbia the ultimatum, Russia gearing up for war, Austria getting Germany's back, etc. The UK declared war on Germany a day after the German invasion of Belgium. France joined because of their alliance with Russia. Should Germany or Austria-Hungary go to the UK and ask for a military alliance or whatever, the UK could consider. The British and the French are both kind of EH on their relation. It's just really going to depend on what the countries in the RP do.

@Chernarus post about AH&Serbia

War in the RP will be forced anyway if it doesn't happen by 1925.

Okay, that makes sense.

[Alleniana]

If they don't attack Belgium, the German war plans will go to shit. Literally their entire plan for war against France for dozens of years had been the Schlieffen plan; the moment the mobilisation button was hit, everything was set into action for that one, single plan. Unless you get Wilhelm II to randomly override literally everything, pissing off most of the army in the process, they're going to enact the Schlieffen plan. The only other strategy is to stop the bullrush and pile on the numbers at the French border, which would take longer, be extremely disorganised, and only be a stopgap measure until a proper other strategy was devised, which would probably fall to bits because of the annoyed generals, messed up battle plans already, troops taking heavy casualties, etc.

or belgium gives them military access

dirty floppy waffle them then

If they don't attack Belgium, the German war plans will go to shit. Literally their entire plan for war against France for dozens of years had been the Schlieffen plan; the moment the mobilisation button was hit, everything was set into action for that one, single plan. Unless you get Wilhelm II to randomly override literally everything, pissing off most of the army in the process, they're going to enact the Schlieffen plan. The only other strategy is to stop the bullrush and pile on the numbers at the French border, which would take longer, be extremely disorganised, and only be a stopgap measure until a proper other strategy was devised, which would probably fall to bits because of the annoyed generals, messed up battle plans already, troops taking heavy casualties, etc.

1. I haven't mobilized yet. Therefore the Schlieffen plan has not been enacted yet.
2. I think that if I can lull the French into attacking me I can successfully counter attack.
3. I can defend Elsasss-Lothringren very well and fight a war of attrition.
4. With a position so close to Paris I can bombard it nightly.

1. Not enacted, but you have literally no war plans other than the Schlieffen. You'd have to redraw years worth of planning in a single night.
2. ^
3. Attrition won't win you the war; they have the numbers
4. What? From where?

[Max Worshippers]

or belgium gives them military access

dirty floppy waffle them then

1. I haven't mobilized yet. Therefore the Schlieffen plan has not been enacted yet.
2. I think that if I can lull the French into attacking me I can successfully counter attack.
3. I can defend Elsasss-Lothringren very well and fight a war of attrition.
4. With a position so close to Paris I can bombard it nightly.

1. Not enacted, but you have literally no war plans other than the Schlieffen. You'd have to redraw years worth of planning in a single night.
2. ^
3. Attrition won't win you the war; they have the numbers
4. What? From where?

1. I can defend the now much smaller Western front very well, and wait for France to attack.
3. 8,500,000 VS 13,000,000 Better trained and equipped Troops (And a much larger navy and airforce).
4. Sorry I overestimated the Paris gun. (Fuck)

[Paketo]

dirty floppy waffle them then

1. Not enacted, but you have literally no war plans other than the Schlieffen. You'd have to redraw years worth of planning in a single night.
2. ^
3. Attrition won't win you the war; they have the numbers
4. What? From where?

1. I can defend the now much smaller Western front very well, and wait for France to attack.
3. 8,500,000 VS 13,000,000 Better trained and equipped Troops (And a much larger navy and airforce).
4. Sorry I overestimated the Paris gun. (Fuck)

but your entire military plan is to capture paris within six weeks then take on russia

[Das Kaiserreich der Cruor]

1. I can defend the now much smaller Western front very well, and wait for France to attack.
3. 8,500,000 VS 13,000,000 Better trained and equipped Troops (And a much larger navy and airforce).
4. Sorry I overestimated the Paris gun. (Fuck)

but your entire military plan is to capture paris within six weeks then take on russia

If he can get the British on his side, he won't need to worry about that as much. He'll just have to hold out on the German-French front, while the British attempt to launch amphibious assaults into France and try to get into Paris.

Yet again, whether Belgium follows the British or not can be important as well. Although a minor power, Belgium can be an annoyance.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Belgium will only fight the war if we are invaded bc we are bound to neutrality.

However, our borders will be heavily defended should the war avoid us and if anyone so much as sets foot on Belgian land without an invite we are at war.

[Paketo]

but your entire military plan is to capture paris within six weeks then take on russia

If he can get the British on his side, he won't need to worry about that as much. He'll just have to hold out on the German-French front, while the British attempt to launch amphibious assaults into France and try to get into Paris.

Yet again, whether Belgium follows the British or not can be important as well. Although a minor power, Belgium can be an annoyance.

i think that by now it is guaranteed that britain will remain neutral unless belgium is attacked. Britain has signed several treaties with france and fear germany much more than france as the german fleet is growing to possibly challenge the royal navy

[Moguchiy]

Belgium will only fight the war if we are invaded bc we are bound to neutrality.

However, our borders will be heavily defended should the war avoid us and if anyone so much as sets foot on Belgian land without an invite we are at war.

Operation Kidnap A British Guy engaged.

[Max Worshippers]

Belgium will only fight the war if we are invaded bc we are bound to neutrality.

However, our borders will be heavily defended should the war avoid us and if anyone so much as sets foot on Belgian land without an invite we are at war.

Operation Kidnap A British Guy engaged.

Dress French Speaking Germans as French Soldiers and march into Belgium through Luxembourg (Operation Omlette du Fromage).

[Alleniana]

dirty floppy waffle them then

1. Not enacted, but you have literally no war plans other than the Schlieffen. You'd have to redraw years worth of planning in a single night.
2. ^
3. Attrition won't win you the war; they have the numbers
4. What? From where?

1. I can defend the now much smaller Western front very well, and wait for France to attack.
3. 8,500,000 VS 13,000,000 Better trained and equipped Troops (And a much larger navy and airforce).
4. Sorry I overestimated the Paris gun. (Fuck)

1. The Schlieffen plan has been planned down to the battalion; to the village, to the supply truck. How can you hope to even begin to devise a plan of that magnitude when war has already begun?
3. Russia? Like, tens of millions?
4. np

Belgium will only fight the war if we are invaded bc we are bound to neutrality.

However, our borders will be heavily defended should the war avoid us and if anyone so much as sets foot on Belgian land without an invite we are at war.

even serbs
whywhywhywhywhy

Operation Kidnap A British Guy engaged.

Dress French Speaking Germans as French Soldiers and march into Belgium through Luxembourg (Operation Omlette du Fromage).

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[Saarth]

I think from now on everyone should date their post, so its clear when everything is going on.
Also, Germanies entire plan for France revolved around invading Belguim. If they don't do that then they either have a sloppy made on the spot plan that gets a lot of Germans killed, or they take forever to make a plan, by which the Frwnch have likely invaded.


EDIT: And Portugal, don't you have an alliance with Britain and Japan?

[Alleniana]

I better IC post

[Paketo]

I better IC post

Yep

[Alleniana]

I better IC post

Yep

I posted that 6 hours ago, fully intending to post ICly, and still haven't.

Doing it now.