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Postby Organized States » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:49 pm

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Organized States wrote:I replaced the Loyalists with your Monarchists. We don't need too many North Korean Warlords running around with WMDs.

Just so you know, the Monarchists are anti-DPRK.

Just saw this a minute ago, would your faction mind being more dictatorial. I'm trying to make so that the North Koreans are fighting amongst each other to be the next Dear Leader.
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"In the old days, the navigators used magic to make themselves strong, but now, nothing; they just pray. Before they leave and at sea, they pray. But I, I make myself strong by thinking—just by thinking! I make myself strong because I despise cowardice. Too many men are afraid of the sea. But I am a navigator."-Mau Piailug
"I regret that I have only one life to give to my island." -Ricardo Bordallo, 2nd Governor of Guam
"Both are voyages of exploration. Hōkūle‘a is in the past, Columbia is in the future." -Colonel Charles L. Veach, USAF, Astronaut and Navigation Enthusiast

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Postby Organized States » Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:15 pm

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"In the old days, the navigators used magic to make themselves strong, but now, nothing; they just pray. Before they leave and at sea, they pray. But I, I make myself strong by thinking—just by thinking! I make myself strong because I despise cowardice. Too many men are afraid of the sea. But I am a navigator."-Mau Piailug
"I regret that I have only one life to give to my island." -Ricardo Bordallo, 2nd Governor of Guam
"Both are voyages of exploration. Hōkūle‘a is in the past, Columbia is in the future." -Colonel Charles L. Veach, USAF, Astronaut and Navigation Enthusiast

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Postby Marsisian » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:54 pm

Organized States wrote:
Marsisian wrote:Just so you know, the Monarchists are anti-DPRK.

Just saw this a minute ago, would your faction mind being more dictatorial. I'm trying to make so that the North Koreans are fighting amongst each other to be the next Dear Leader.

They're not really dictatorial, that wouldn't make sense. They just want to kick the UN forces out of the country. Authoritarian they can be, though.
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Postby Civilana » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:59 pm

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Military Leader(s): General Jean-Marc Chastain
Type: Democratic republic
Public Strategic Goals: To strategize Europe along with other European military powers
Unspoken Goals (Same as the US if you are a member of the Coalition (UN mission): To help out allies and destroy the menacing enemy
Previous RP: NaN
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:05 pm

Reserving China, will submit an app very soon! This looks super cool. :)
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:09 pm

Application:
NS Name: Senkaku
RP Nation: the People's Republic of China
National Leader: President Linh Kai
Military Leader(s): Central Military Commission
Type: Semi-democratic republic/autocratic single-party state
Public Strategic Goals: To stabilize the Korean situation and ensure China's borders are secure.
Unspoken Goals (Same as the US if you are a member of the Coalition (UN mission): To finish off the irritating and increasingly troublesome Pyongyang regime, keep the South Korean regime away from the Manchurian border, install a new, friendlier, pro-China regime in the North.
Previous/Ongoing RPs:


One, two, three, four. Hopefully that's sufficient, I could get more if necessary.
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Postby Organized States » Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:53 pm

Senkaku wrote:Application:
NS Name: Senkaku
RP Nation: the People's Republic of China
National Leader: President Linh Kai
Military Leader(s): Central Military Commission
Type: Semi-democratic republic/autocratic single-party state
Public Strategic Goals: To stabilize the Korean situation and ensure China's borders are secure.
Unspoken Goals (Same as the US if you are a member of the Coalition (UN mission): To finish off the irritating and increasingly troublesome Pyongyang regime, keep the South Korean regime away from the Manchurian border, install a new, friendlier, pro-China regime in the North.
Previous/Ongoing RPs:


One, two, three, four. Hopefully that's sufficient, I could get more if necessary.

Accepted.
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"In the old days, the navigators used magic to make themselves strong, but now, nothing; they just pray. Before they leave and at sea, they pray. But I, I make myself strong by thinking—just by thinking! I make myself strong because I despise cowardice. Too many men are afraid of the sea. But I am a navigator."-Mau Piailug
"I regret that I have only one life to give to my island." -Ricardo Bordallo, 2nd Governor of Guam
"Both are voyages of exploration. Hōkūle‘a is in the past, Columbia is in the future." -Colonel Charles L. Veach, USAF, Astronaut and Navigation Enthusiast

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Postby Organized States » Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:54 pm

Civilana wrote:Application:
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RP Nation: France
National Leader: President Jacques Semphrey-Beaulieu
Military Leader(s): General Jean-Marc Chastain
Type: Democratic republic
Public Strategic Goals: To strategize Europe along with other European military powers
Unspoken Goals (Same as the US if you are a member of the Coalition (UN mission): To help out allies and destroy the menacing enemy
Previous RP: NaN

Accepted. I will be watching to see how you progress though considering how new you are.
Thank God for OS!- Deian
"In the old days, the navigators used magic to make themselves strong, but now, nothing; they just pray. Before they leave and at sea, they pray. But I, I make myself strong by thinking—just by thinking! I make myself strong because I despise cowardice. Too many men are afraid of the sea. But I am a navigator."-Mau Piailug
"I regret that I have only one life to give to my island." -Ricardo Bordallo, 2nd Governor of Guam
"Both are voyages of exploration. Hōkūle‘a is in the past, Columbia is in the future." -Colonel Charles L. Veach, USAF, Astronaut and Navigation Enthusiast

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Postby Organized States » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:22 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Organized States wrote:Just saw this a minute ago, would your faction mind being more dictatorial. I'm trying to make so that the North Koreans are fighting amongst each other to be the next Dear Leader.

They're not really dictatorial, that wouldn't make sense. They just want to kick the UN forces out of the country. Authoritarian they can be, though.

Ah. I get it. Go ahead. Authoritarian will work.
Thank God for OS!- Deian
"In the old days, the navigators used magic to make themselves strong, but now, nothing; they just pray. Before they leave and at sea, they pray. But I, I make myself strong by thinking—just by thinking! I make myself strong because I despise cowardice. Too many men are afraid of the sea. But I am a navigator."-Mau Piailug
"I regret that I have only one life to give to my island." -Ricardo Bordallo, 2nd Governor of Guam
"Both are voyages of exploration. Hōkūle‘a is in the past, Columbia is in the future." -Colonel Charles L. Veach, USAF, Astronaut and Navigation Enthusiast

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Postby Organized States » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:29 pm

Bump
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"In the old days, the navigators used magic to make themselves strong, but now, nothing; they just pray. Before they leave and at sea, they pray. But I, I make myself strong by thinking—just by thinking! I make myself strong because I despise cowardice. Too many men are afraid of the sea. But I am a navigator."-Mau Piailug
"I regret that I have only one life to give to my island." -Ricardo Bordallo, 2nd Governor of Guam
"Both are voyages of exploration. Hōkūle‘a is in the past, Columbia is in the future." -Colonel Charles L. Veach, USAF, Astronaut and Navigation Enthusiast

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Postby Kargintina » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:48 pm

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RP Nation: Russian Federation
National Leader: President Ivan Kanovich
Military Leader(s): Admiral Vlad Kovov, leader of the Far East Flotilla, Colonel Leninsky Vuduvic, leader of the 18th Spetsnaz brigade (Far East)
Type: Federation
Public Strategic Goals: Get UN to back down. End civil war in North Korea
Unspoken Goals (Same as the US if you are a member of the Coalition (UN mission) Stop American influence in Asia, Unite the Koreas under North Korea, Stop Chinese influence in Korea.
Previous RP:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=298236

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Postby Organized States » Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:38 pm

Kargintina wrote:Application:
NS Name:Kargintina
RP Nation: Russian Federation
National Leader: President Ivan Kanovich
Military Leader(s): Admiral Vlad Kovov, leader of the Far East Flotilla, Colonel Leninsky Vuduvic, leader of the 18th Spetsnaz brigade (Far East)
Type: Federation
Public Strategic Goals: Get UN to back down. End civil war in North Korea
Unspoken Goals (Same as the US if you are a member of the Coalition (UN mission) Stop American influence in Asia, Unite the Koreas under North Korea, Stop Chinese influence in Korea.
Previous RP:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=298236

Accepted.
Thank God for OS!- Deian
"In the old days, the navigators used magic to make themselves strong, but now, nothing; they just pray. Before they leave and at sea, they pray. But I, I make myself strong by thinking—just by thinking! I make myself strong because I despise cowardice. Too many men are afraid of the sea. But I am a navigator."-Mau Piailug
"I regret that I have only one life to give to my island." -Ricardo Bordallo, 2nd Governor of Guam
"Both are voyages of exploration. Hōkūle‘a is in the past, Columbia is in the future." -Colonel Charles L. Veach, USAF, Astronaut and Navigation Enthusiast

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Postby Organized States » Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:54 pm

I know this sounds like a weird request, but could all of you guys use the real life equipment that your nations are currently using? For example, Senkaku would use the J-20 and the J-11 or the J-31 and I would use the F-35/F-22. Now, with Vietnam and Mars, I will make exceptions. As soon as we have material support playing in, that's when I will allow for North Koreans getting Su-27s or something.

IC will be up in a little.
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"In the old days, the navigators used magic to make themselves strong, but now, nothing; they just pray. Before they leave and at sea, they pray. But I, I make myself strong by thinking—just by thinking! I make myself strong because I despise cowardice. Too many men are afraid of the sea. But I am a navigator."-Mau Piailug
"I regret that I have only one life to give to my island." -Ricardo Bordallo, 2nd Governor of Guam
"Both are voyages of exploration. Hōkūle‘a is in the past, Columbia is in the future." -Colonel Charles L. Veach, USAF, Astronaut and Navigation Enthusiast

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Postby Republic of Vietnam » Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:05 pm

Organized States wrote:I know this sounds like a weird request, but could all of you guys use the real life equipment that your nations are currently using? For example, Senkaku would use the J-20 and the J-11 or the J-31 and I would use the F-35/F-22. Now, with Vietnam and Mars, I will make exceptions. As soon as we have material support playing in, that's when I will allow for North Koreans getting Su-27s or something.

IC will be up in a little.

Um,
Vietnam would be like RoK in term of equipment.
We do have some ships of our own, though.

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Postby Senkaku » Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:37 pm

Organized States wrote:I know this sounds like a weird request, but could all of you guys use the real life equipment that your nations are currently using? For example, Senkaku would use the J-20 and the J-11 or the J-31 and I would use the F-35/F-22. Now, with Vietnam and Mars, I will make exceptions. As soon as we have material support playing in, that's when I will allow for North Koreans getting Su-27s or something.

IC will be up in a little.

How is that a weird request?

And for Vietnam, I'm sure they could just look up what sort of weaponry the Vietnamese military uses.
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Postby Marsisian » Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:38 pm

I'd probably guess that the Monarchists have more support around the Yalu River, near the Chinese and Russian borders.
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:40 pm

Marsisian wrote:I'd probably guess that the Monarchists have more support around the Yalu River, near the Chinese and Russian borders.

By monarchists you mean the Lee Dynasty supporters?

They'd still be pretty hardcore Juche Commies. And no, the Chinese would rather either create their own puppet movement or have a more reasonable junta take power, since the Lees have destroyed the country and made China look bad for supporting them.
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Postby Republic of Vietnam » Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:40 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Organized States wrote:I know this sounds like a weird request, but could all of you guys use the real life equipment that your nations are currently using? For example, Senkaku would use the J-20 and the J-11 or the J-31 and I would use the F-35/F-22. Now, with Vietnam and Mars, I will make exceptions. As soon as we have material support playing in, that's when I will allow for North Koreans getting Su-27s or something.

IC will be up in a little.

How is that a weird request?

And for Vietnam, I'm sure they could just look up what sort of weaponry the Vietnamese military uses.

No.
I am basically South Vietnam.
SO I can't use AKs.
Or Soviet/Russian and Chinese stuff.

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Postby Marsisian » Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:42 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Marsisian wrote:I'd probably guess that the Monarchists have more support around the Yalu River, near the Chinese and Russian borders.

By monarchists you mean the Lee Dynasty supporters?

They'd still be pretty hardcore Juche Commies. And no, the Chinese would rather either create their own puppet movement or have a more reasonable junta take power, since the Lees have destroyed the country and made China look bad for supporting them.

Not the Lee Dynasty, an Elective Monarchy, it's not committed to one specific Dynasty instead electing them the "democratic" and authoritarian rigged way.

They wouldn't support the DPRK's ideologies, which includes Juche or Communism. More like State Capitalism.
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Postby Marsisian » Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:45 pm

Wait... does the OP think that my faction wants to restore the Lees?
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:54 pm

Republic of Vietnam wrote:
Senkaku wrote:How is that a weird request?

And for Vietnam, I'm sure they could just look up what sort of weaponry the Vietnamese military uses.

No.
I am basically South Vietnam.
SO I can't use AKs.
Or Soviet/Russian and Chinese stuff.


Why the hell not?

Marsisian wrote:
Senkaku wrote:By monarchists you mean the Lee Dynasty supporters?

They'd still be pretty hardcore Juche Commies. And no, the Chinese would rather either create their own puppet movement or have a more reasonable junta take power, since the Lees have destroyed the country and made China look bad for supporting them.

Not the Lee Dynasty, an Elective Monarchy, it's not committed to one specific Dynasty instead electing them the "democratic" and authoritarian rigged way.

They wouldn't support the DPRK's ideologies, which includes Juche or Communism. More like State Capitalism.


Okaayyy, I may have to withdraw. Between what Vietnam just said and this, I'm realizing I may have misunderstood what this was about. I thought it was a real-world scenario with a few name changes about the fall of the DPRK. Clearly this is a completely different world, if we have South Vietnam in 2021 and all that jazz, so... yeah.

Sorry I misunderstood! Bye!
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Postby Republic of Vietnam » Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:55 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Republic of Vietnam wrote:No.
I am basically South Vietnam.
SO I can't use AKs.
Or Soviet/Russian and Chinese stuff.


Why the hell not?

Do you see Taiwan or South Korea doing this?

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Postby Senkaku » Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:55 pm

Marsisian wrote:Wait... does the OP think that my faction wants to restore the Lees?

I think so. He did mention it to you.


Organized States wrote:
Marsisian wrote:Just so you know, the Monarchists are anti-DPRK.

Just saw this a minute ago, would your faction mind being more dictatorial. I'm trying to make so that the North Koreans are fighting amongst each other to be the next Dear Leader.
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Postby Corenea » Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:56 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Republic of Vietnam wrote:No.
I am basically South Vietnam.
SO I can't use AKs.
Or Soviet/Russian and Chinese stuff.


Why the hell not?

Marsisian wrote:Not the Lee Dynasty, an Elective Monarchy, it's not committed to one specific Dynasty instead electing them the "democratic" and authoritarian rigged way.

They wouldn't support the DPRK's ideologies, which includes Juche or Communism. More like State Capitalism.


Okaayyy, I may have to withdraw. Between what Vietnam just said and this, I'm realizing I may have misunderstood what this was about. I thought it was a real-world scenario with a few name changes about the fall of the DPRK. Clearly this is a completely different world, if we have South Vietnam in 2021 and all that jazz, so... yeah.

Sorry I misunderstood! Bye!

I don't know why we have South Vietnam in the first place. I thought we're keeping this real world as possible with only a different dynasty in North Korea
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