AWWA Part III-The Great War(OOC-Now Closed)

[Ruridova]

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Eurasiplads/Eurasitér

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Date: August 19, 2014 - ongoing
Location: primarily Denmark and Hungary
Smaller protests in Czechoslovakia, Poland, Germany
Causes: German suzerainty over Denmark, Hungary
Repression of popular movements and democratic governance by Germany
Central European War(Crisis of 2014)
Goals: End of German control over Denmark, Hungary
Recognition of Czechoslovakia
Return of Slesvig-Holsten to Denmark
Allowance of national democratic governance in Denmark, Hungary
Admission of Denmark and Hungary to the Eurasian Union
Methods: demonstrations, internet activism, civil disobedience, civil and governmental resistance, hacktivism, military action
Result: AU, EAU, OAS pass sanctions against Germany
Creation of Danish Folketing, PM
Transfer of Hungarian executive powers from King to Palatine
Hungarian recognition of and peace accords with Czechoslovakia
EAU announces probable membership for Denmark, Hungary
Beginning of War for Slesvig-Holsten
Participants:
Anti-German:
Kingdom of Denmark
- Royal Family
- Folketinget
- Royal Defense Force
- Royal Police Force
- civilian protestors
Realm of the Magyars
- Hungarian Armed Forces
- Royal Family
- the Palatinate
- National Assembly
- civilian protestors
Supported by:
Eurasian Union
- Republic of Poland
- Czechoslovak Republic
- Baltic Union
Asian Union
- Chinese Empire
Organization of American States
- Dominion of Canada
- Confederate States of America
misc. opposition within Germany
Pro-German:
Holy Roman Empire
- German Imperial Military
- Chancellery
- Volkskongreß
Commanders:
Anti-German:
Denmark
- Charlotte Amalienshavn
- Helle Thorning Schmidt
- Peter Bartram
- Per Ludvigsen
- Frank Trojahn
- Henrik Dam
- Bjarne Laustsen
Hungary
- Lajos Wittelsbach
- Viktor Orban
- Csaba Hende
- Tibor Benkő
- Albert Sáfár
Pro-German:
Holy Roman Empire
- Ernst August von Hannover
- Angela Merkel
- Ursula von der Leyen
- Volker Wieker
- Andreas Krause
- Karl Müllner
Numbers:
Denmark
- 24,000 active duty troops
- 51,000 reserve troops
- 22,000 policemen
- 700,000 to 2,100,000 protesters
Hungary
- 34,000 active duty troops
- 59,000 reserve troops
- 400,000 to 1,700,000 protesters
Germany
- 144,000 active duty troops
- 182,000 reserve troops
Casualties:
Anti-German:
Killed: ~400
Injured: ~1,900
Pro-German:
Killed: ~250
Injured: ~1,500

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The Eurasiplads(Danish) or Eurasitér(Hungarian), both meaning "Eurasian square", refers to a series of ongoing protests in Denmark and Hungary against German suzerainty over those countries.

The first protests began in the early hours of August 19th, when several hundred protesters gathered in Copenhagen's Rådhuspladsen. The protests spread across the country in a matter of hours, with the protestors demanding the end of German interference in Denmark and the cessation of Schleswig-Hostein to Denmark. On August 20th, the Danish government came out in favor of the protests, denying attempts by Germany to halt the protests by force, with the government promising the creation of a national legislature(which Germany had denied the country for decades). The following day, protests began in Hungary, which quickly resulted in Hungary's government siding with Denmark, concluding peace with Czechoslovakia and transferring powers to the civilian government. It was also on the 21st that sanctions from the AU, EAU, and OAS came into effect against Germany, and that both Hungary and Denmark formally filed for EAU membership. On August 22nd, Germany invaded Denmark, sparking the ongoing War for Slesvig-Holstein, though by the following day they had halted the German advance.

[Bojikami]

WARNING: May or may not be cannon. Also, it is mostly incomplete as I am unsure of who would be supporting who.
Second Iranian Revolution

Date: July 22nd 1987-December 19th 1990

Location: Northern Iran, Tehran

Causes: Increasing western influence in Iran, Rapid liberalisation

Goals: Implement a pro-western, secular and capitalist state.
Leave ComIntern

Methods: Riots, violent uprising

Result: Revolution fails due to the intervention of Soviet special forces and the defeat of the revolutionaries outside of Tehran.
Iran is forced by ComIntern to become a secular state and implement more socialist policies.
Islamic Republic of Iran becomes the Democratic Peoples Republic of Iran

Belligerents:
Anti-Communist:
Iranian Liberation Army

Pro-Communist:
Islamic Republic of Iran
-Iranian Peoples Army
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
-Soviet Spetsnaz
The Union of Italy
-Italian Red Army
The Revolutionary Republic of Venezuela
-109th Special Forces Battalion

[Ruridova]

WARNING: May or may not be cannon. Also, it is mostly incomplete as I am unsure of who would be supporting who.

The CSA, the Four Former Puppets(Quebec, Rio Grande, al-Mayiquh, Tehuantepec), Denmark, and North New Guinea would oppose the Soviet invasion of the country, decrying it as an interference by the USSR in the affairs of a sovereign country, saying that a communist invasion of Iran constitutes an unjust invasion of Iranian internal affairs. Germany and Hungary would oppose it because Czechoslovakia and Galicia like the USSR. Czechoslovakia and Galicia would support the USSR because Germany opposed the USSR. Yugoslavia and Russia would likely try to avoid picking a side, but most Yugoslavians and Russians would agree with the majority of my nations(perhaps saying that Iran is to Ukr-Rom as Germany is to Hungary and Denmark). Caucasia would oppose everyone.

[Bojikami]

WARNING: May or may not be cannon. Also, it is mostly incomplete as I am unsure of who would be supporting who.

The CSA, the Four Former Puppets(Quebec, Rio Grande, al-Mayiquh, Tehuantepec), Denmark, and North New Guinea would oppose the Soviet invasion of the country, decrying it as an interference by the USSR in the affairs of a sovereign country, saying that a communist invasion of Iran constitutes an unjust invasion of Iranian internal affairs. Germany and Hungary would oppose it because Czechoslovakia and Galicia like the USSR. Czechoslovakia and Galicia would support the USSR because Germany opposed the USSR. Yugoslavia and Russia would likely try to avoid picking a side, but most Yugoslavians and Russians would agree with the majority of my nations(perhaps saying that Iran is to Ukr-Rom as Germany is to Hungary and Denmark). Caucasia would oppose everyone.

Iran asked for our help, though.

[Ruridova]

The CSA, the Four Former Puppets(Quebec, Rio Grande, al-Mayiquh, Tehuantepec), Denmark, and North New Guinea would oppose the Soviet invasion of the country, decrying it as an interference by the USSR in the affairs of a sovereign country, saying that a communist invasion of Iran constitutes an unjust invasion of Iranian internal affairs. Germany and Hungary would oppose it because Czechoslovakia and Galicia like the USSR. Czechoslovakia and Galicia would support the USSR because Germany opposed the USSR. Yugoslavia and Russia would likely try to avoid picking a side, but most Yugoslavians and Russians would agree with the majority of my nations(perhaps saying that Iran is to Ukr-Rom as Germany is to Hungary and Denmark). Caucasia would oppose everyone.

Iran asked for our help, though.

IRL, when the actual USSR invaded its allies to make them more hardline, it was generally not with their permission or support. I was assuming that ATL USSR would handle reform similarly to the OTL USSR.

[Bojikami]

Iran asked for our help, though.

IRL, when the actual USSR invaded its allies to make them more hardline, it was generally not with their permission or support. I was assuming that ATL USSR would handle reform similarly to the OTL USSR.

This USSR around 1987 would be under the rule of Lutsenko, the reformer.

[Ruridova]

IRL, when the actual USSR invaded its allies to make them more hardline, it was generally not with their permission or support. I was assuming that ATL USSR would handle reform similarly to the OTL USSR.

This USSR around 1987 would be under the rule of Lutsenko, the reformer.

Ok.

[Luziyca]

Basically...

Neutral (not Caucasia crazy)
China
Kyrgyzstan
Kenya
Madagascar
Turkmenistan
Uzbekistan
Maldives
Supporters of liberal King during the Troubles in Ireland

Anti-Soviet
Tajikistan
Supporters of conservative King during the Troubles in Ireland

Pro-Soviet
Arunachal Pradesh
Shengdan/Christmas Island
Portugal
Mouraterra

[Unicario]

The Jews of Israel ATL won't get their "promised land" to themselves, since Rum would actively try to discourage mass Jewish settlement in Palestine, and try to spread the Jews out to other places. Zionism would be considered a crime in Rum because it involves the mass removal of Arabs from Palestine, and the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine, which involves removing Rumite authority, and therefore, it is considered seditious and "democratically unjust" to the people who live there. Most "Israeli" people in Rum are not Zionists, since they feel Rum does ample to protect their rights.

Pro-USSR

- Empire of Japan (Comintern member, voted for the intervention in Iran)
- Empire of Ethiopia
- Socialist Federal Republic of Indochina (Comintern member)
- The Netherlands
- Rumite Empire (neutral officially, leans toward the socialists since the Islamic Republic is too radical for the Caliph's liking)
- Hashemite Arabia
- Malaya

Anti-USSR

- Tawantinsuyu
- United Republics of Central America
- Kingdom of Thailand
- Republic of Mozambique

[Ruridova]

The Jews of Israel ATL won't get their "promised land" to themselves, since Rum would actively try to discourage mass Jewish settlement in Palestine, and try to spread the Jews out to other places. Zionism would be considered a crime in Rum because it involves the mass removal of Arabs from Palestine, and the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine, which involves removing Rumite authority, and therefore, it is considered seditious and "democratically unjust" to the people who live there. Most "Israeli" people in Rum are not Zionists, since they feel Rum does ample to protect their rights.

There are two major alternatives to Israel, as I see it
- the Jewish Autonomous Oblast in Russia
- the Confederate States of America

[Ruridova]

So I made an alignment chart for my nations in the RP:

I only used mine because of the fake quotations, and I didn't want to put words in someone's mouth.

The faux quotes do have people they were said by ATL, though:
Quebec/Lawful Good- Pierre Trudeau, speaking as a guest before the Canadian House of Commons, 1970.
Denmark/Neutral Good- Charlotte Amalienshavn, Queen of Denmark, to the press during the Eurasiplads crisis, 2014.
Confederacy/Chaotic Good- Martin Luther King, Jr., to the NAACP shortly before the March on Washington began, 1963.
Republican Russia/Lawful Neutral- Boris Yeltsin, in his first speech as Prime Minister to the Republican Duma, 1991.
North New Guinea/True Neutral- Wolfram Muhlfeld, Chancellor, speaking to the press about the Yugoslav Wars, 1997.
Czechoslovakia/Chaotic Neutral- Aleksandr Dubcek, speaking to a crowd in Prague during the Crisis of 1971.
Germany/Lawful Evil- Ernst August, Holy Roman Emperor, giving a speech before the Volkskongreß during the Crisis of 2014.
Imperial Russia/Neutral Evil- Dmitriy II Romanov, to CBC reporter Brian Williams on Alaskan amnesty for Edward Snowden, 2013.
Caucasia/Chaotic Evil- Grigol Svanidze, on the 100th anniversary of Caucasia's founding, 1935.

[Unicario]

All I know is that Tawantinsuyu would be Lawful Neutral; Japan would be Chaotic Good, Indonesia would be Chaotic Evil, and the Netherlands would be Chaotic Neutral.

[Luziyca]

The Jews of Israel ATL won't get their "promised land" to themselves, since Rum would actively try to discourage mass Jewish settlement in Palestine, and try to spread the Jews out to other places. Zionism would be considered a crime in Rum because it involves the mass removal of Arabs from Palestine, and the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine, which involves removing Rumite authority, and therefore, it is considered seditious and "democratically unjust" to the people who live there. Most "Israeli" people in Rum are not Zionists, since they feel Rum does ample to protect their rights.

There are two major alternatives to Israel, as I see it
- the Jewish Autonomous Oblast in Russia
- the Confederate States of America

1) Erm... you're going to need to find a different spot for it. The area of the OTL Jewish Autonomous Oblast remains Manchurian.

But for Zionists, there are several options.

- Crimea will be willing to admit Jews to settle Northern Crimea so to dilute the population of the Ukrainians who lived there so to justify continued discrimination (it officially ended in 1923, but from 1923 to 1959, we discriminated against "communists" which were basically the same thing as Ukrainians)
- Portugal will be willing to take Jews to settle Portuguese Morocco after the 1920s to dilute the influence of the Muslims
- Ireland may take Jews of Celtic origin but more because they are Celts
- Manchuria is also available for persecuted Jews in the Orient where they can found some towns on the Shanta (Mountain Tower) Island

[Ruridova]

Erm... you're going to need to find a different spot for it. The area of the OTL Jewish Autonomous Oblast remains Manchurian.

Siberia's pretty damn big. I'll find a place.

[Luziyca]

Erm... you're going to need to find a different spot for it. The area of the OTL Jewish Autonomous Oblast remains Manchurian.

Siberia's pretty damn big. I'll find a place.

Yeah. I know you will find a way.

As for the Shanta Islands, we'd encourage settlement of these islands since perhaps Russia could claim the islands as theirs, but China controls them.

[Ruridova]

Siberia's pretty damn big. I'll find a place.

Yeah. I know you will find a way.

As for the Shanta Islands, we'd encourage settlement of these islands since perhaps Russia could claim the islands as theirs, but China controls them.

The what islands, now?

If they're on the map, it would probably make sense to stick with what's on the map.

[Luziyca]

Yeah. I know you will find a way.

As for the Shanta Islands, we'd encourage settlement of these islands since perhaps Russia could claim the islands as theirs, but China controls them.

The what islands, now?

These. I envision that we could have some sort of dispute over them like the OTL Malvinas/Falklands.

[Ruridova]

The what islands, now?

These.

First, you have to spell the name right if you want me to find them.

Secondly, why would Russia want them? There is literally no one there, Russia has no historical or demographic claim, and no resource worth fighting over. There is literally no reason to fight for them. The most reasonable course for Russia would be for Russia to encourage that China make them into a nature preserve.

[Luziyca]

These.

First, you have to spell the name right if you want me to find them.

Secondly, why would Russia want them? There is literally no one there, and no resource worth fighting over. The most reasonable course for Russia would be for Russia to encourage that China make them into a nature preserve.

Shanta would be the Chinese name over them, or 山塔島.

Secondly, I plan on having some communities be built there, so about 20,000 people live on the archipelago. Most will live on the Bolshoy Shantar Island/Shanta Island, in the city of Shancheng, the northernmost city in the Empire (about 12,500 people in Shancheng, about 4,000 in villages on the island, and the rest on the other islands).

[Ruridova]

First, you have to spell the name right if you want me to find them.

Secondly, why would Russia want them? There is literally no one there, and no resource worth fighting over. The most reasonable course for Russia would be for Russia to encourage that China make them into a nature preserve.

Shanta would be the Chinese name over them, or 山塔島.

Secondly, I plan on having some communities be built there, so about 20,000 people live on the archipelago. Most will live on the Bolshoy Shantar Island/Shanta Island, in the city of Shancheng, the northernmost city in the Empire (about 12,500 people in Shancheng, about 4,000 in villages on the island, and the rest on the other islands).

You want 20,000 people to live on four or five barren, isolated islands with rough terrain, a total area of about 2,100 sq km and no population IRL, and no resources worth speaking of? Only 3,000 people live on the Falklands, which are 12,200 sq km. 2,500 live on Svalbard, which is 61,000 sq km. 2,000 people live on Novaya Zemlya, which is 55,200 sq km. Hell, only 31,000 people live in Nunavut, which is 2,000,000 sq km.

[Luziyca]

Shanta would be the Chinese name over them, or 山塔島.

Secondly, I plan on having some communities be built there, so about 20,000 people live on the archipelago. Most will live on the Bolshoy Shantar Island/Shanta Island, in the city of Shancheng, the northernmost city in the Empire (about 12,500 people in Shancheng, about 4,000 in villages on the island, and the rest on the other islands).

You want 20,000 people to live on four or five barren, isolated islands with rough terrain, a total area of about 2,100 sq km and no population IRL, and no resources worth speaking of? Only 3,000 people live on the Falklands, which are 12,200 sq km. 2,500 live on Svalbard, which is 61,000 sq km. 2,000 people live on Novaya Zemlya, which is 55,200 sq km. Hell, only 31,000 people live in Nunavut, which is 2,000,000 sq km.

Okay. How about 6,000 then? Or should I make it a little lower?

[Bojikami]

Second Iranian Revolution

Date: July 22nd 1987-December 19th 1990

Location: Northern Iran, Tehran

Causes: Increasing western influence in Iran, Rapid liberalisation

Goals: Implement a pro-western, secular and capitalist state.
Leave ComIntern

Methods: Riots, violent uprising

Result: Revolution fails due to the intervention of Soviet special forces and the defeat of the revolutionaries outside of Tehran.
Iran is forced by ComIntern to become a secular state and implement more socialist policies.
Islamic Republic of Iran becomes the Democratic Peoples Republic of Iran

Belligerents:
Anti-Communist:
Iranian Liberation Army

Supporting, no forces deployed:
Tawantinsuyu
United Republics of Central America
Kingdom of Thailand
Republic of Mozambique
Tajikistan
Supporters of the Irish King
The Confederate States of America
Quebec
Rio Grande
Al-Mayiquh
Tehuantepec
Denmark
North New Guinea
Germany
Hungary

Pro-Communist:
Islamic Republic of Iran
-Iranian Peoples Army
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
-Soviet Spetsnaz
The Union of Italy
-Italian Red Army
The Revolutionary Republic of Venezuela
-109th Special Forces Battalion

Supporting, no forces deployed:
Empire of Japan
Empire of Ethiopia
Socialist Federal Republic of Indochina
The Netherlands
Rumite Empire
Hashemite Arabia
Malaya
Arunachal Pradesh
Shengdan/Christmas Island
Portugal
Mouraterra
Czechoslovakia
Galicia

[Ruridova]

You want 20,000 people to live on four or five barren, isolated islands with rough terrain, a total area of about 2,100 sq km and no population IRL, and no resources worth speaking of? Only 3,000 people live on the Falklands, which are 12,200 sq km. 2,500 live on Svalbard, which is 61,000 sq km. 2,000 people live on Novaya Zemlya, which is 55,200 sq km. Hell, only 31,000 people live in Nunavut, which is 2,000,000 sq km.

Okay. How about 6,000 then? Or should I make it a little lower?

Less than 2,000.

[Luziyca]

Okay. How about 6,000 then? Or should I make it a little lower?

Less than 2,000.

Kay, 1,900 on Shanta Island/Bolshoy Shantar, and 200 on the other three islands.

[Ruridova]

Less than 2,000.

Kay, 1,900 on Shanta Island/Bolshoy Shantar, and 200 on the other three islands.

Less than 2,000. You're a fifth as large as the Falklands, and have even less strategic relevance, even less resources...