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The Vaktovian Empire
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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:18 am

Unicario wrote:
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Are we really not gonna give any of my powers nukes? I mean, I'm sure I can come up with a reason for one of them to have them by 1960.


None of your powers have the capacity to create nuclear weapons.


Not even Brazil? Or Sweden, or Norway?

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Asian Union
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Motto: "The virtue of liberty shall live forever"
Japanese: アジア連合 (Ajia rengō)
Chinese (Traditional): 亞洲聯盟 (Yàzhōu liánméng)
Chinese (Simplified): 亚洲联盟 (Yàzhōu liánméng)
Thai: เอเชียยูเนี่ยน (Xecheīy yū neī̀yn)
Turkish: Asya Birliği
Bengali: এশিয়ান ইউনিয়ন (Ēśiẏāna i'uniẏana)
Gujarati: એશિયન યુનિયન (Ēśiyana yuniyana)
Arabic: الاتحاد الآسيوي
Vietnamese: Liên minh châu
Lao: ສະຫະພາບອາຊີ (sahaphab asi)
Dutch: Aziatische Unie


Formerly known as:
- Pan-Asian Open Market Agreement (PAOMA, 1895-1942)
- Asian Coal, Steel and Industrial Community (ACSIC, 1942-1956)
- Asian Economic Community (AEC, 1956-1967)
- Pan-Asian Economic and Political Cooperation Community (PAEPCC, 1967-1980)
Founded as Asian Union in 1980


Capitals:
Tokyo (home to Asian Union's parliament)
Kyoto (home to the Asian Currency Union's HQ)
Beijing (home to the Asian Human Rights Court)
Shanghai (home to the Asian Environmental Regulation Department)

Currency: Asian yen (YEN)
- Rupee (Arunachal Pradesh)
- Lira (Rum, Arabia, Tunis, Tripoli, Cyrenaica)
- Yuan (China + dominions, Japanese Formosa)
- won (Japanese Korea)
- "new guilder" (Netherlands + Indonesia)


Anthem: Asia Heroically Stands in the Universe

General Secretary of the Asian Union: Dr. Rochus Reynder (Indonesia/Netherlands)
Deputy Secretary of the Asian Union: Ms. Bao Lin (Lanfang)
President of the Asian Currency Union: Mr. Daisuke Matsumoto (Japan)
President of the Parliamentary Assembly: Mr. Jin Chu (Japan)
President of the Environmental Protection Agency: Mr. Zhong Wu (China)
Head Judge of the Asian Human Rights Court: The Hon. Judge, Galip Katırcı (Rum)

Members:
[Most of Asia, to be compiled :)]
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Postby Ruridova » Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:57 pm

Would the EU be a thing, though?
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"For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat; I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink; I was a stranger and you invited me in; I needed clothes and you clothed me; I was sick and you looked after me; I was in prison and you came to visit me... Truly, whatever you did for one of the least of my brothers and sisters, you did for me."
- the Gospel of Matthew, 25:35-40

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Postby Ruridova » Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:05 pm

Nuclear powers in order of first detonation

Dominion of Canada (1945) - Result of Fukushima Project
Holy Roman Empire (1946) - Result of Valkyrie Project
Japanese Empire (1947) - Result of Fukushima Project
United Kingdom of Great Britain (1948) - Result of Fukushima Project
Confederate States of America (1948) - Result of Operation Rio Bravo
Russian Empire (1949) - Arsenal lost in 1991
Free Republic of Quebec (1950) - Result of Operation Rio Bravo
Realm of the Magyars (1951) - Result of Valkyrie Project
Rumite Empire (1954)
French State (1960)
Chinese Empire (1964)
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (1965)
Czechoslovak Republic (1968)
Empire of Roma-Italia (1969)
Republic of India (1974)
Republic of South Africa (1979) - Arsenal disassembled in 1995
Republic of Namibia (1981) - Arsenal disassembled in 1991
Republic of Mozambique (1981) - Arsenal disassembled in 2003
Tawantinsuyo (1984)
United Russian Republic (1991) - Arsenal taken from Russian Empire
Republic of Finland (1991) - Arsenal taken from Russian Empire, disassembled in 1993
Republic of Pakistan (1998)
Caucasian Free State (2006)

Nuclear Sharing Programs

- Asian Union Nuclear Defense Initiative (incomplete list)
Japan, China, Rum Empire, India, Pakistan - nuclear-armed powers

Member states/protected by the Five Powers:
Empire of Ethiopia
Republic of Mozambique
Kingdom of Madagascar
Kingdom of Kenya
Kingdom of Thailand
Federal Republic of Indochina
Dominion of Malaysia
Indonesia (member of the United Kingdom of the Netherlands)
Sultanate of Tripoli
Sultanate of Cyrenaica
Emirate of Tunis
Sultanate of Hashemite Arabia
Republic of Kazakhstan
Republic of Turkmenistan
Republic of Tajikstan
Kingdom of Xintudi
Kingdom of Kyrgyzstan
Kingdom of Arunachal Pradesh
Kingdom of Uzbekistan
Republic of the Maldives
Lanfang Republic

- Unofficial members:
Dominion of Australia
Dominion of New Zealand

- OAS Mutual Defense Program

Nuclear Nations:
Confederate States
Quebec
Tawantisuyu
Nuclear-Share Nations
Al-Mayiquh
Venezuela
Brazil
Other Members
Rio Grande
Tehuantepec
Central America
Guyane
(any other American nations)
Республіка Рюрідова - Королівство Вілкія
"For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat; I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink; I was a stranger and you invited me in; I needed clothes and you clothed me; I was sick and you looked after me; I was in prison and you came to visit me... Truly, whatever you did for one of the least of my brothers and sisters, you did for me."
- the Gospel of Matthew, 25:35-40

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Postby Unicario » Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:15 pm

Ruridova wrote:Would the EU be a thing, though?


I imagine it might, in a different shape. A little bit less cohesive than OTL. If there isn't an EU, then I'll have the Dutch either adopt the yen or keep the guilder. IDK.
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Postby Ruridova » Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:46 pm

Unicario wrote:
Ruridova wrote:Would the EU be a thing, though?


I imagine it might, in a different shape. A little bit less cohesive than OTL. If there isn't an EU, then I'll have the Dutch either adopt the yen or keep the guilder. IDK.

I mean, I have no plans for the mark to be dropped and the Euroreich to form. And the Czechoslovak issue would be a bitch.
Республіка Рюрідова - Королівство Вілкія
"For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat; I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink; I was a stranger and you invited me in; I needed clothes and you clothed me; I was sick and you looked after me; I was in prison and you came to visit me... Truly, whatever you did for one of the least of my brothers and sisters, you did for me."
- the Gospel of Matthew, 25:35-40

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Postby Unicario » Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:52 pm

Ruridova wrote:
Unicario wrote:
I imagine it might, in a different shape. A little bit less cohesive than OTL. If there isn't an EU, then I'll have the Dutch either adopt the yen or keep the guilder. IDK.

I mean, I have no plans for the mark to be dropped and the Euroreich to form. And the Czechoslovak issue would be a bitch.


OK, so I might have the Netherlands join the AU's currency union so it permits greater interoperability with the colonies and such. The Dutch would get the advantage of being a direct partner with China and Japan, and Japan would get the benefit of European countries using their currency.

The Dutch would call it the "new guilder", the Rumites would call it the lira, etc. ^^
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Postby Unicario » Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:18 pm

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IBM PC XT: Powered by the Motorola 68000 platform
Macintosh: Powered by the Intel 8088 microprocessor.

Bondi-blue iMac? You've got an Intel Pentium III!
Dell Optiplex from 1998? You've got a PowerPC G3!

2005: Microsoft transititions their software from the Motorola-IBM PowerPC platform... to the Nishi Processor. :P

OS/2 however, can't really let go of the past, and stays on the PowerPC platform, but opens up to Nishi.

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Poland can into personal computing, Poland can into innovation! Commodore is born in Poland because Jack Tramiel never flees dem Nazis.
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:36 pm

Ruridova wrote:
Unicario wrote:
I imagine it might, in a different shape. A little bit less cohesive than OTL. If there isn't an EU, then I'll have the Dutch either adopt the yen or keep the guilder. IDK.

I mean, I have no plans for the mark to be dropped and the Euroreich to form. And the Czechoslovak issue would be a bitch.

Not only that, Italy and the USSR would not join such a capitalist organisation.
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Postby Unicario » Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:38 pm

Bojikami wrote:
Ruridova wrote:I mean, I have no plans for the mark to be dropped and the Euroreich to form. And the Czechoslovak issue would be a bitch.

Not only that, Italy and the USSR would not join such a capitalist organisation.


Rum: "We like the Asian yen. Good currency."
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Postby Luziyca » Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:47 pm

Poland should go into space in 2000.
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Postby Unicario » Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:53 pm

Luziyca wrote:Poland should go into space in 2000.


No, Poland cannot into space. Is law.
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:19 pm

Unicario wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Poland should go into space in 2000.


No, Poland cannot into space. Is law.

The USSR may into space around 1961. As a prelude to their nuclear arms program...
(I am talking about the ICBM which will be first tested in the deserts of the Ilkhanate and won't be known to the world until the radiation leaks into neighboring countries. Thus forcing the premier to address the world on the situation.)
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:58 pm

Unicario wrote:http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/AlternateHistory/AWorldWithoutAmerica

I made this. :P

You forgot about Ruthenia, Tsar Oleksandr and the slaughter of millions of Crimeans.
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Postby Luziyca » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:10 pm

Bojikami wrote:
Unicario wrote:http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/AlternateHistory/AWorldWithoutAmerica

I made this. :P

You forgot about Ruthenia, Tsar Oleksandr and the slaughter of millions of Crimeans.

She'll get to it eventually.
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Postby Unicario » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:56 pm

Other people can contribute...
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Unicario wrote:Other people can contribute...

Oh, alright. I'll add parts when I get on my PC.
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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Sun Aug 10, 2014 8:15 pm

Unicario wrote:http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/AlternateHistory/AWorldWithoutAmerica

I made this. :P


Can I not into website?

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Postby Luziyca » Sun Aug 10, 2014 8:33 pm

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:
Unicario wrote:http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/AlternateHistory/AWorldWithoutAmerica

I made this. :P


Can I not into website?

It's working for me. Must be your computer.
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Postby Ruridova » Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:40 am

Can the Kennedy Assassination be one of Indonesia's deeds, seeing that Indonesia is going to make 11/22/1963 suck terribly anyways, and that Lee Harvey Oswald would probably not have the motive, and that it would be a nice sign of how CS-Japan relations have totally reversed since 12/7/1891 to have them go to war as allies instead of opponents?
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"For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat; I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink; I was a stranger and you invited me in; I needed clothes and you clothed me; I was sick and you looked after me; I was in prison and you came to visit me... Truly, whatever you did for one of the least of my brothers and sisters, you did for me."
- the Gospel of Matthew, 25:35-40

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Postby Unicario » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:27 am

Ruridova wrote:Can the Kennedy Assassination be one of Indonesia's deeds, seeing that Indonesia is going to make 11/22/1963 suck terribly anyways, and that Lee Harvey Oswald would probably not have the motive, and that it would be a nice sign of how CS-Japan relations have totally reversed since 12/7/1891 to have them go to war as allies instead of opponents?


I can do that. November 22, 1963, Durmadi, the son of the Indonesian Sultan, will blow John F. Kennedy's brains out. *nod*
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Postby Unicario » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:35 am

Ruridova wrote:Can the Kennedy Assassination be one of Indonesia's deeds, seeing that Indonesia is going to make 11/22/1963 suck terribly anyways, and that Lee Harvey Oswald would probably not have the motive, and that it would be a nice sign of how CS-Japan relations have totally reversed since 12/7/1891 to have them go to war as allies instead of opponents?


I have a head canon that the Japanese and Confederates began to revive their relations significantly in the 1930s, where Japan helps build the Golden Gate Bridge, and the Confederacy helps Japan revive it's economy after the serious decay that sets in leading into 1937.

In 1947, Japan detonates it's atomic bomb, and a year later, the CSA does, there is a short nuclear arms race between the two before Emperor Alexander II and the CS President meet at Sangoshima or Pearl Harbor and hash out a way to end the arms race. By 1963, Japan and CSA are "friendly rivals". When Kennedy is assassinated, the CSA and Japan formally ally for the first time ever, mending what was left of the bad blood between the two.
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Postby Ruridova » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:55 am

Unicario wrote:
Ruridova wrote:Can the Kennedy Assassination be one of Indonesia's deeds, seeing that Indonesia is going to make 11/22/1963 suck terribly anyways, and that Lee Harvey Oswald would probably not have the motive, and that it would be a nice sign of how CS-Japan relations have totally reversed since 12/7/1891 to have them go to war as allies instead of opponents?


I have a head canon that the Japanese and Confederates began to revive their relations significantly in the 1930s, where Japan helps build the Golden Gate Bridge, and the Confederacy helps Japan revive it's economy after the serious decay that sets in leading into 1937.

In 1947, Japan detonates it's atomic bomb, and a year later, the CSA does, there is a short nuclear arms race between the two before Emperor Alexander II and the CS President meet at Sangoshima or Pearl Harbor and hash out a way to end the arms race. By 1963, Japan and CSA are "friendly rivals". When Kennedy is assassinated, the CSA and Japan formally ally for the first time ever, mending what was left of the bad blood between the two.

US President in 1947 would be Strom Thurmond. You'd probably want to hold the conference after Adlai Stevenson's election in 1950.
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Postby Unicario » Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:00 am

Ruridova wrote:
Unicario wrote:
I have a head canon that the Japanese and Confederates began to revive their relations significantly in the 1930s, where Japan helps build the Golden Gate Bridge, and the Confederacy helps Japan revive it's economy after the serious decay that sets in leading into 1937.

In 1947, Japan detonates it's atomic bomb, and a year later, the CSA does, there is a short nuclear arms race between the two before Emperor Alexander II and the CS President meet at Sangoshima or Pearl Harbor and hash out a way to end the arms race. By 1963, Japan and CSA are "friendly rivals". When Kennedy is assassinated, the CSA and Japan formally ally for the first time ever, mending what was left of the bad blood between the two.

US President in 1947 would be Strom Thurmond. You'd probably want to hold the conference after Adlai Stevenson's election in 1950.


I was thinking of 1952 or 1953.
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