215BC-2014AD MegaCampaign OOC[Always open,6 players needed]

[Vermandois]

But just one more question:
If this rp will eventually go to 2014, then what about the other lands now not included on the map?
Will they be 'discovered' later on or will they just be kept out the whole time?

They'll be "discovered" later the real map is of the entire world, I just shrunk it.

[Limborg]

Why? It should still be RP'ed realisticly.. Godmodding is just a no. People just should add greated debt when it comes to tactics in battles with such general.

greater debt?

More detail.

Why? It should still be RP'ed realisticly.. Godmodding is just a no. People just should add greated debt when it comes to tactics in battles with such general.



How so? You could just start with some random nations who get one, and just "remove" that country from the list. In that way eventually everybody would get one if they survive long enough. You could also take into account on wich nations could use one.. Its fun to see a nation who's kinda trapped or so to get one so he can create some more space for his own... Dunno, just an idea.. But i have to say, it should be worked out in a clear system or so becouse of the reasons you two named.

Got an idea that's fair.
A nation can get the general only if it didn't get it before, once all the nations got it once a new loop starts.
A general is elected every 10 years to a random nation and it expires after 20 years or until it has been used in a war.
A nation may only have 1 general at a time.

How's that?

Souds good

Got an idea that's fair.
A nation can get the general only if it didn't get it before, once all the nations got it once a new loop starts.
A general is elected every 10 years to a random nation and it expires after 20 years or until it has been used in a war.
A nation may only have 1 general at a time.

How's that?

I just don't see the point of generals... tbh, it just seems like added bother. Why cannot we just rp *realistically* that our nation at some point gets a great military leader and expands. Not more than realistic...

Problem is, then every nation would do that everytime their previous general died... "godly" generals like Hannibal, Alexander, Napoleon and such didn't arrised all the time you know

[Phillippanoa]

Problem is, then every nation would do that everytime their previous general died... "godly" generals like Hannibal, Alexander, Napoleon and such didn't arrised all the time you know

I said realistically

[Limborg]

Problem is, then every nation would do that everytime their previous general died... "godly" generals like Hannibal, Alexander, Napoleon and such didn't arrised all the time you know

I said realistically

Yeah but you know how those things go...

[Phillippanoa]

I said realistically

Yeah but you know how those things go...

that's what OPs are for...

[Vermandois]

Yes my minions...continue to bump this thread so more people arrive...
MWAHAHAHAHAHA.
I'm just going to leave the RP as it is about the generals(No generals for now)...

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Another thing I want to do is to give myself everyone's Wealth per year to quarter of the number of provinces he has
(Provinces) / 4 = (WealthPerYear)
With a minimum value of 1 so everyone has at-least 1 wealth per year. Wealth will be used as currency and maybe trade agreements will increase both nation's WealthPerYear by 1.

Wealth can be traded via deals:
Declare war on A and I'll give you 100 wealth

Maybe it can be used to research technology and even build colonies or reinforce armies.

What do you think? If we won't find any good use for wealth It'll be removed completely.

[Alahana]

Hmmm, it could get complicated with the wealth system, but it'll bring more realism into the game.
So I'd say give it a shot to include wealth, when it gets to complicated then you can remove it if necessary.

[Limborg]

Yes my minions...continue to bump this thread so more people arrive...
MWAHAHAHAHAHA.
I'm just going to leave the RP as it is about the generals(No generals for now)...

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Another thing I want to do is to give myself everyone's Wealth per year to quarter of the number of provinces he has
(Provinces) / 4 = (WealthPerYear)
With a minimum value of 1 so everyone has at-least 1 wealth per year. Wealth will be used as currency and maybe trade agreements will increase both nation's WealthPerYear by 1.

Wealth can be traded via deals:
Declare war on A and I'll give you 100 wealth

Maybe it can be used to research technology and even build colonies or reinforce armies.

What do you think? If we won't find any good use for wealth It'll be removed completely.

I first thought it would be good for armies and such, but then i realised that it couldn't be tracked in any way.. But for colonizations and technology its a very good way.

Starting colony costs [amount] wealth.
Updating technology costs [amount] wealth.

I also would like you to consider a way to lose wealth. like when at war or so..
something like:

declare war costs [amount] wealth.
being occupied costs [amount] wealth per occupied province..

Something like that.. It would urge people to use some kind of tactic in the matter of expension and war.
And as above named, if it wouldn't work out, just remove it.

[Inuitland]

Carthage - Open slot
Ruler - Mago Gisgon

Government: Elective(every 4 years) - Republic
Provinces: 51
Wealth: 24(+5)
Technology: 8

Armies:
Land: 51/51
Navy: 33/33

Foreign relations:
War against Rome

[Vermandois]

Yes my minions...continue to bump this thread so more people arrive...
MWAHAHAHAHAHA.
I'm just going to leave the RP as it is about the generals(No generals for now)...

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Another thing I want to do is to give myself everyone's Wealth per year to quarter of the number of provinces he has
(Provinces) / 4 = (WealthPerYear)
With a minimum value of 1 so everyone has at-least 1 wealth per year. Wealth will be used as currency and maybe trade agreements will increase both nation's WealthPerYear by 1.

Wealth can be traded via deals:
Declare war on A and I'll give you 100 wealth

Maybe it can be used to research technology and even build colonies or reinforce armies.

What do you think? If we won't find any good use for wealth It'll be removed completely.

I first thought it would be good for armies and such, but then i realised that it couldn't be tracked in any way.. But for colonizations and technology its a very good way.

Starting colony costs [amount] wealth.
Updating technology costs [amount] wealth.

I also would like you to consider a way to lose wealth. like when at war or so..
something like:

declare war costs [amount] wealth.
being occupied costs [amount] wealth per occupied province..

Something like that.. It would urge people to use some kind of tactic in the matter of expension and war.
And as above named, if it wouldn't work out, just remove it.

Yes. wealth is also used to field armies.
Every X units you use you pay Y wealth and the same with navy units.

Carthage - Open slot
Ruler - Mago Gisgon

Government: Elective(every 4 years) - Republic
Provinces: 51
Wealth: 24(+5)
Technology: 8

Armies:
Land: 51/51
Navy: 33/33

Foreign relations:
War against Rome

Been a while since I had a application to run through!
*Added

6 players and we're starting!

[Limborg]

I first thought it would be good for armies and such, but then i realised that it couldn't be tracked in any way.. But for colonizations and technology its a very good way.

Starting colony costs [amount] wealth.
Updating technology costs [amount] wealth.

I also would like you to consider a way to lose wealth. like when at war or so..
something like:

declare war costs [amount] wealth.
being occupied costs [amount] wealth per occupied province..

Something like that.. It would urge people to use some kind of tactic in the matter of expension and war.
And as above named, if it wouldn't work out, just remove it.

Yes. wealth is also used to field armies.
Every X units you use you pay Y wealth and the same with navy units.

but are you going to track that? considering that alot of nations will add larger armies frequently (i think, not sure ofcourse)
Anyhow, what where your thoughts on the ideas i had on it?

[Alahana]

If possible I'd like to change my faction leader to Mithridates III. I thought in this time period it would be Mithridates II that had power, but his reign ended in 220BC when his son Mithridates III took over, so to be historical correct it should be Mithridates the III and not the II. I apologize for my mistake and any inconvenience I caused.

[Vermandois]

If possible I'd like to change my faction leader to Mithridates III. I thought in this time period it would be Mithridates II that had power, but his reign ended in 220BC when his son Mithridates III took over, so to be historical correct it should be Mithridates the III and not the II. I apologize for my mistake and any inconvenience I caused.

For a minute I thought I was wrong for putting in Mithridates III.
*Updated

[Limborg]

Damn, just realized that i make 20,25 (to be precise) wealth profit each year

[United Great Britian]

I want Egypt as is.

[Vermandois]

I want Egypt as is.

You got it
*Added

[United Great Britian]

I want Egypt as is.

You got it
*Added

Where is IC?

[Vermandois]

You got it
*Added

Where is IC?

I'm waiting until all the nations are taken before starting.
And there's still discussion whenever wealth should be used and on what.

[United Great Britian]

Where is IC?

I'm waiting until all the nations are taken before starting.
And there's still discussion whenever wealth should be used and on what.

I think it should be used in big problems.

[Alahana]

Where is IC?

I'm waiting until all the nations are taken before starting.
And there's still discussion whenever wealth should be used and on what.

I'd say on treaties (if the other party asks for wealth as counteroffer), on armies/navies, and on creating colonies/cities

[Vermandois]

I'm waiting until all the nations are taken before starting.
And there's still discussion whenever wealth should be used and on what.

I'd say on treaties (if the other party asks for wealth as counteroffer), on armies/navies, and on creating colonies/cities

That's kinda like the current proposal:
Gain money from:
Owning provinces
Peace treaties & deals
Occupy enemies

Waste money on:
Armies&Navies
Colonies
Peace treaties & deals
Technology advancement
Being occupied

[Alahana]

I'd say on treaties (if the other party asks for wealth as counteroffer), on armies/navies, and on creating colonies/cities

That's kinda like the current proposal:
Gain money from:
Owning provinces
Peace treaties & deals
Occupy enemies

Waste money on:
Armies&Navies
Colonies
Peace treaties & deals
Technology advancement
Being occupied

I'd say keep this and the wealth system shouldn't be to complicated while making at realistic.
Keeping this, and only this should be balancing the complications of the wealth system and the realism perfectly. At least I think.

[Limborg]

That's kinda like the current proposal:
Gain money from:
Owning provinces
Peace treaties & deals
Occupy enemies

Waste money on:
Armies&Navies
Colonies
Peace treaties & deals
Technology advancement
Being occupied

I'd say keep this and the wealth system shouldn't be to complicated while making at realistic.
Keeping this, and only this should be balancing the complications of the wealth system and the realism perfectly. At least I think.

I agree, adding more would only make it complicated and such things don't work. Its good as it is, not to complicated and pretty clear.
Now there only needs to be a decision on what should cost how much... And i think that eventually the costs aso should change. (especially during gun time and discovertime if you know what i mean) anyhow, thats a thing for later.

[Alahana]

I'd say keep this and the wealth system shouldn't be to complicated while making at realistic.
Keeping this, and only this should be balancing the complications of the wealth system and the realism perfectly. At least I think.

I agree, adding more would only make it complicated and such things don't work. Its good as it is, not to complicated and pretty clear.
Now there only needs to be a decision on what should cost how much... And i think that eventually the costs aso should change. (especially during gun time and discovertime if you know what i mean) anyhow, thats a thing for later.

I'd say each army would coast 1/4 of 1 wealth/year. So when you gain 1 wealth/year you can maintain 4 armies. same for navies.
Treaties&deals should be agreed during negotiations so the nations can decide for themselves.
Occupation could be something like the nation that owns the territory gains 1/2 of the wealth and the occupier gains the other half.
And what is gained from provinces, I'd say something like 1/2 to 1 wealth/year.
Technological advancement and colonies should have a fixed amount, but I have no idea what would be realistic.

[Vermandois]

*Added poll to know how should I use wealth!
Vote now!