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Postby Rephesus » Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:13 pm

The Bruneian delegation spoke,

Although Morocco was clearly defeated in the conflict, we like to the the world is beyond the point where barbaric militarism can result in annexation of sovereign land. The land stolen by Spain in its militaristic 'treaty' was never and should never be the property of Madrid. The people of Morocco rightfully own such land and blatant imperialism needs to be punished, not rewarded. Additionally, it is unclear of whom the aggressor was as Spain did not allow the UN to investigate, and Morocco spoke no opposition, thus it is not difficult to conclude that there were clear motives behind the Spanish invasion. The Spanish government has no right to steal Moroccan land or displace its citizens, such imperialistic acts go against the very foundations of this assembly.

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Postby Roski » Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:15 pm

Rephesus wrote:The Bruneian delegation spoke,

Although Morocco was clearly defeated in the conflict, we like to the the world is beyond the point where barbaric militarism can result in annexation of sovereign land. The land stolen by Spain in its militaristic 'treaty' was never and should never be the property of Madrid. The people of Morocco rightfully own such land and blatant imperialism needs to be punished, not rewarded. Additionally, it is unclear of whom the aggressor was as Spain did not allow the UN to investigate, and Morocco spoke no opposition, thus it is not difficult to conclude that there were clear motives behind the Spanish invasion. The Spanish government has no right to steal Moroccan land or displace its citizens, such imperialistic acts go against the very foundations of this assembly.


Morocco invaded Spanish territory. What of the cold war, where the Soviet Union and the United Kingdom split Europe in half, without consulting the other victors, or the nations they just liberated from Nazi rule?
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Postby Ptolemais » Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:19 pm

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Morocco invaded Spanish territory. What of the cold war, where the Soviet Union and the United Kingdom split Europe in half, without consulting the other victors, or the nations they just liberated from Nazi rule?


The Japanese delegation would like to remind Germany that no international investigation was carried out, and all we have is Spain's word.
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Postby Forty Twoania » Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:35 pm

Rephesus wrote:The Bruneian delegation spoke,

Although Morocco was clearly defeated in the conflict, we like to the the world is beyond the point where barbaric militarism can result in annexation of sovereign land. The land stolen by Spain in its militaristic 'treaty' was never and should never be the property of Madrid. The people of Morocco rightfully own such land and blatant imperialism needs to be punished, not rewarded. Additionally, it is unclear of whom the aggressor was as Spain did not allow the UN to investigate, and Morocco spoke no opposition, thus it is not difficult to conclude that there were clear motives behind the Spanish invasion. The Spanish government has no right to steal Moroccan land or displace its citizens, such imperialistic acts go against the very foundations of this assembly.

Neither Spain nor Morocco made any objection to UN involvement because none was proposed. Saying Spain objected to UN involvement is a lie. Their were numerous red flags that occurred during the Pre-war period in which the UN could have mediated but no such attempt was made, Spain was forced to declare war after Morocco refused to withdraw from the Spanish Isla de Perejil

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Spain believes that that it is very difficult to oppresses and dominate mostly the non existant people living in the Great Spanish Empire of less than 10 acres. And to the ~200 new people now living in Ceuta we apologize for violating your rights as human being with freedom of speech and the right to vote, something not forced on you by the Moroccan government.
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Postby Rephesus » Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:39 pm

The Burmese delegate spoke,

By the same definition, sir, one could justify the Soviet occupation of various eastern dictatorships. By refusing the proposal that has the interests of both the Spanish and Moroccan, -including Sahrawi- peoples in mind, Madrid shows its refusal to give up land that rightfully belongs to the people of Morocco.

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Postby Forty Twoania » Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:54 pm

Rephesus wrote:The Burmese delegate spoke,

By the same definition, sir, one could justify the Soviet occupation of various eastern dictatorships. By refusing the proposal that has the interests of both the Spanish and Moroccan, -including Sahrawi- peoples in mind, Madrid shows its refusal to give up land that rightfully belongs to the people of Morocco.

The Treaty only keeps in mind the interests of Morocco. It robs Ceuta and Melillia of their security against Morocco. It calls the Sahrawi Republic a puppet, completely ignores the will of the Sahrawi people to become independent from their former oppressors and insures that their undeveloped economy will immediately crash do to the canceling of the Agreement between Spain and the Sahrawi.

Spain would like to hear exactly how Spain can be compared to the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany ,as you said earlier, when it has annexed largely unpopulated areas only to insure the security of Ceuta and Melilla and the few people living in those annexed areas have been offered joint Spanish-Moroccan Citizenship or double the compensation for their property if they wish to leave
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Postby Rephesus » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:05 pm

Burma would like to clarify that the Burmese delegation never made a comparison to the Nazi invasion of Europe.

The Vietnamese delegation would like to reiterate that this land belongs to the Moroccan people and Spain had no right to annex it. Additionally We would like to enquire as to how far Spain will go to ensure 'security'. The end of the conflict assured the security of Ceuta and Melilla and thus there is and never will be a need to annex the land of a sovereign nation for personal desire.

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Postby Forty Twoania » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:08 pm

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Forty Twoania wrote:Spain wishes to remind Laos that the Sahrawi people have been oppressed by Morocco for over 20 years after Spain's withdrawal from the region and that the Sahrawi Republic is a Republic not a puppet they are free to elect their own government.

Spain's annexed territory is minuscule and has little economic value it was only ceded to insure the protection of both Ceuta and Melilla, which was occupied by Moroccan forces

The War started when Morocco attempted to annex the Spanish Island of Perejil throughout the war no Spanish troops occupied Morocco


The Vietnamese delegation responds,

The delegation from Vietnam would like to remind Spain that the oppression of a peoples such as those in Catalonia does not and never will justify the invasion of a territory and so called 'liberation' simply for the establishment of a puppet state loyal to Madrid.

We would also like to remind the Spanish delegation that all annexed territory belongs to the people of Morocco and it is their right to govern their own territory, not that of Madrid Bureaucrats and Oil Barons.

We would also like to remind Spain that due to the veto of the resolution for a UN investigation of the war, Spain's analysis on the catalyst for the war cannot officially be recognized by the United Nations and would like to further remind Spain that Morocco currently does not claim the island as its own following the treaty Fez was forced to sign at Spanish Gunpoint.

The use of a superior military to bully a nation of lesser economic standing into submission disgusts the Vietnamese delegation and furthermore we would like to voice our discontent to the Spanish delegation for attempting to legitimize such a brutal conflict which resulted in so many civilian casualties.

The people in Catalonia are not oppressed they are free to voice their opinions as Spanish citizenship. The movement for separation from Spain has dropped considerably since the end of the economic recession as predicted by the Spanish Government

The Government of the Sahrawi is elected by the Sahrawi not by Spain

No land with economic value was annexed by Spain

No such resolution was proposed. Spain does not have Veto powers. Morocco claimed the island before the war and it could be interpreted by Morocco, if the treaty proposed by Spain is revoked, that Morocco is free to claim territories rightfully own by Spain

Again Morocco provoked Spain by putting Moroccan troops on Spanish soil.
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Postby Forty Twoania » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:13 pm

Rephesus wrote:Burma would like to clarify that the Burmese delegation never made a comparison to the Nazi invasion of Europe.

The Vietnamese delegation would like to reiterate that this land belongs to the Moroccan people and Spain had no right to annex it. Additionally We would like to enquire as to how far Spain will go to ensure 'security'. The end of the conflict assured the security of Ceuta and Melilla and thus there is and never will be a need to annex the land of a sovereign nation for personal desire.

We apologize for the miscommunication that statement is direct at Laos

The Fall of Melilla proved that putting Melilla back in its original territorial position would threaten its security as it has already been proved that it is undefendedable. Ceuta wasnt occupied but it would have been if the war had continued. The end of one war doesn't mean the end of all wars
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Postby Graknopia » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:16 pm

Forty Twoania wrote:
Rephesus wrote:Burma would like to clarify that the Burmese delegation never made a comparison to the Nazi invasion of Europe.

The Vietnamese delegation would like to reiterate that this land belongs to the Moroccan people and Spain had no right to annex it. Additionally We would like to enquire as to how far Spain will go to ensure 'security'. The end of the conflict assured the security of Ceuta and Melilla and thus there is and never will be a need to annex the land of a sovereign nation for personal desire.

We apologize for the miscommunication that statement is direct at Laos

The Fall of Melilla proved that putting Melilla back in its original territorial position would threaten its security as it has already been proved that it is undefendedable. Ceuta wasnt occupied but it would have been if the war had continued. The end of one war doesn't mean the end of all wars

Upon the end of this resolution China would support a resolution giving Spain full authority over disputed-Islands. (If it passes)
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Postby Galter Gulcher » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:15 pm

Russia vetoes Resolution:056849
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Postby Graknopia » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:28 pm

Galter Gulcher wrote:Russia vetoes Resolution:056849

The People's Republic of China requests a reason to the veto
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Postby Graknopia » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:50 pm

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Date: [Insert Date]

United Nations Security Session


[Resolution Number:(0-56850)]





Preamble


[The removal of the Russian Federation from permanent UN Security Council Seat.]

What you propose?


1.) Russian Belligerence
A. The Russian Federation shows continued aggression towards European and Asian nations alike

B. The Russian Federation has no regard for the world economy, nor the regard for the safety of civilians

C. The Russian Federation's continued support for terrorists in Ukraine.


2.) Russian Economy
A. The Russian economy cannot feasibly support itself internally at this point along with the continued upkeep of its armed forces

B. A large scale mobilization would further cripple its economy


3.) Political Leaders

A. Noting that the majority of Russian leaders have no regard for human life and the stability of the economy, as shown in part 1

B. Russian President Vladimir Putin is unfit to lead a country, and continues to undermine UN efforts to bring peace and security to the world

C. Noting that the Russian Federation is the most corrupt country of the UN SC members, citing the most recent events at the Olympics of Putin handing out political favors to wealthy businessmen.


What should we expect if this is enacted?


[Hereby removes the Russian Federation as a permanent UN Security Council Member.]

Signed,

[Insert your Name]
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Postby Hobbesistan » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:56 pm

The U.S votes AYE
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Postby Talanzaar » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:57 pm

Italy votes aye!
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Postby Galter Gulcher » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:57 pm

Russia votes Nay!
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:58 pm

The Republic of Colombia votes Yay to Resolution 0-56850 proposed by the People's Republic of China.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:00 pm

The Republic of India votes Yay to Resolution 0-56850 proposed by the People's Republic of China. We believe the Russian Federation is a danger to the world and thus it should not form part of such important organization as the United Nations Security Council.
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Postby Waztaskio » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:19 pm

Kurdistan has now be given observer status in the United Nations SC, due to no real opposition.

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Postby Graknopia » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:20 pm

Waztaskio wrote:Kurdistan has now be given observer status in the United Nations SC, due to no real opposition.

China is against..
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:21 pm

Waztaskio wrote:Kurdistan has now be given observer status in the United Nations SC, due to no real opposition.


The Republic of India is against granting Kurdistan observer status.
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Postby Galter Gulcher » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:21 pm

Waztaskio wrote:Kurdistan has now be given observer status in the United Nations SC, due to no real opposition.


Russia is against.
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Postby Ptolemais » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:36 pm

Japan abstains on the issue of Iraqi(?) Kurdistan gaining non-member observer status.
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Postby Waztaskio » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:37 pm

Never mind then, Kurdish is denied from observer status mainly due to China.

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Postby Columbion » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:42 pm

Waztaskio wrote:Never mind then, Kurdish is denied from observer status mainly due to China.


What? the original vote was that I was accepted. Is this a democracy or a dictatorship? I demand the observer status be returned.

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