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The Broken Russian States
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:34 pm

Talanzaar wrote:
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I choose b


Ok, if the Pope resigns, thats great, I won't attack.

If not, he will die.

I will surround the Vatican with troops so nobody tries to leave.

Italy, as we are really the Only European nations standing right now, we need to focus on Russia. We need to be the United States
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Postby Limborg » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:34 pm

Talanzaar wrote:
The Broken Russian States wrote:
I choose b


Ok, if the Pope resigns, thats great, I won't attack.

If not, he will die.

I will surround the Vatican with troops so nobody tries to leave.


I would watch out if i where you... Vatican will send its army :P

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Postby Ptolemais » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:35 pm

Talanzaar wrote:
Ok, if the Pope resigns, thats great, I won't attack.

If not, he will die.

I will surround the Vatican with troops so nobody tries to leave.


I'm still dumbfounded by how much attention you're giving them. Italy has nothing better to do, when the world is on the brink of war, but to surround the Vatican with soldiers and plot the assassination of a senile old man with a funny hat? :eyebrow:
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Postby Talanzaar » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:37 pm

The Broken Russian States wrote:
Talanzaar wrote:
Ok, if the Pope resigns, thats great, I won't attack.

If not, he will die.

I will surround the Vatican with troops so nobody tries to leave.

Italy, as we are really the Only European nations standing right now, we need to focus on Russia. We need to be the United States


Ok, I understand, but what the Vatican is doing directly effects Italy, its a domestic issue. Promoting terrorism can end up being a big mess for me and I can't deal with international affairs if my nation is practically bordering a terrorist hub.

Can someone give me a brief rundown on who is invading who around the world?

And BRS, what are your opinions on Russia? What course of action are you planning on taking?
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Postby Equalium » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:38 pm

Germany has no control in the EU. Belgium does. And so does Denmark.

This is why we need Belgium and Denmark.
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:40 pm

Britain and France should hurry up and come back in case some IRA bastards fuck up the meeting.

If Peru gets bombed, Ireland gets burned, and the IRA with it. You don't bomb a fucking peace meeting.
If Argentina gets bombed, same as above, unless the IRA doesn't do it, and someone else does.

If peace talks fail for the latter, World War 3 will begin. Russia and the Soviet Bloc vs NATO.

Fuck.
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:40 pm

Equalium wrote:Germany has no control in the EU. Belgium does. And so does Denmark.

This is why we need Belgium and Denmark.


Since we don't, Italy and Germany do.
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Postby Ptolemais » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:41 pm

Equalium wrote:Germany has no control in the EU. Belgium does. And so does Denmark.

This is why we need Belgium and Denmark.


I think for the sake of moving forward, the active EU countries can direct EU policy as long as it's not wildly unrealistic. Germany has multitudes greater influence in the EU than Denmark or Belgium.
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Postby Limborg » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:41 pm

Equalium wrote:Germany has no control in the EU. Belgium does. And so does Denmark.

This is why we need Belgium and Denmark.


Belgium and Denmark? How do they have the power in the EU?

As a EU citzen, i never heard about Denmark wanting anything.. Belgium is only the place where it happens, Belgium itself doesn't have much influence at all... The ones who have influence are Germany, France and the UK.

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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:41 pm

The Broken Russian States wrote:
Equalium wrote:Germany has no control in the EU. Belgium does. And so does Denmark.

This is why we need Belgium and Denmark.


Since we don't, Italy and Germany do.

The Bundeswehr is purely defensive. Even within the bounds of modern defense, you need UN approval to operate outside of Germany.
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The Broken Russian States
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:42 pm

Ptolemais wrote:
Equalium wrote:Germany has no control in the EU. Belgium does. And so does Denmark.

This is why we need Belgium and Denmark.


I think for the sake of moving forward, the active EU countries can direct EU policy as long as it's not wildly unrealistic. Germany has multitudes greater influence in the EU than Denmark or Belgium.


All I did was deny him because he has severe human rights violations. And the EU is very much against those.
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Postby Cyllea » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:43 pm

Who plays Brazil and Venezuela? And is anyone else playing other South American States? Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Bolivia..?

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Postby Ptolemais » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:43 pm

Oh, and the Middle East conflict is actually just as great a threat to the EU as it is for the US. Most EU energy comes from Russia and the Middle East. If Russia controls the Middle East, the EU is at the mercy of Moscow.

The EU would mobilize battlegroups to prevent that.
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Postby Talanzaar » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:44 pm

So Italy is going to get sucked into WW3 with Germany and NATO against Russia & Friends?

That is going to screw over the whole world. Guys, lets try to make peace happen.
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Postby Ptolemais » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:45 pm

The Broken Russian States wrote:
All I did was deny him because he has severe human rights violations. And the EU is very much against those.


The EU doesn't really care about that. Everyone engages in Realpolitik these days. The EU has been vigorously courting Ukraine to gain some territory from Russia. RL, the EU would jump at the opportunity to get Ukraine on board.
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:45 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
The Broken Russian States wrote:
Since we don't, Italy and Germany do.

The Bundeswehr is purely defensive. Even within the bounds of modern defense, you need UN approval to operate outside of Germany.


I need UN approval to have more than 370k, and that is a waste of time.

AND since there is no USA to stand up to Russia's shenanigans, I have to do it. Italy has to do it. Britain and France do.
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Postby Winovia » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:46 pm

Ptolemais wrote:Oh, and the Middle East conflict is actually just as great a threat to the EU as it is for the US. Most EU energy comes from Russia and the Middle East. If Russia controls the Middle East, the EU is at the mercy of Moscow.

The EU would mobilize battlegroups to prevent that.

So WWIII
EU & NATO vs. Russia
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:47 pm

Talanzaar wrote:So Italy is going to get sucked into WW3 with Germany and NATO against Russia & Friends?

That is going to screw over the whole world. Guys, lets try to make peace happen.


That's what has to happen. No fucking way NATO will beat Russia. Especially since China has been getting cozy with them.
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:48 pm

Talanzaar wrote:
The Broken Russian States wrote:Italy, as we are really the Only European nations standing right now, we need to focus on Russia. We need to be the United States


Ok, I understand, but what the Vatican is doing directly effects Italy, its a domestic issue. Promoting terrorism can end up being a big mess for me and I can't deal with international affairs if my nation is practically bordering a terrorist hub.

Can someone give me a brief rundown on who is invading who around the world?

And BRS, what are your opinions on Russia? What course of action are you planning on taking?



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Postby The Broken Russian States » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:49 pm

Cyllea wrote:Who plays Brazil and Venezuela? And is anyone else playing other South American States? Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Bolivia..?


I don't remember, but Venezuela does not like any one, Brazil doesn't know what to do, and no other states are taken but the four.
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:50 pm

Ptolemais wrote:Oh, and the Middle East conflict is actually just as great a threat to the EU as it is for the US. Most EU energy comes from Russia and the Middle East. If Russia controls the Middle East, the EU is at the mercy of Moscow.

The EU would mobilize battlegroups to prevent that.


Peace first.
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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:50 pm

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:

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Postby The Broken Russian States » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:50 pm

Winovia wrote:
Ptolemais wrote:Oh, and the Middle East conflict is actually just as great a threat to the EU as it is for the US. Most EU energy comes from Russia and the Middle East. If Russia controls the Middle East, the EU is at the mercy of Moscow.

The EU would mobilize battlegroups to prevent that.

So WWIII
EU & NATO vs. Russia


Yep. Now you know how this could get fucked hard.
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Postby Aldelxane » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:52 pm

The Broken Russian States wrote:
Winovia wrote:So WWIII
EU & NATO vs. Russia


Yep. Now you know how this could get fucked hard.

Unless they agree to destroy all of their WMDs first, it's probably going to end in apocalypse.

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Postby The Broken Russian States » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:52 pm

Ok.

Because the United States is inactive, we need to give NATO to the control of Germany, and Italu, the most active members. Turkey can't have it because they want to invade Russia directly.

NATO can not respond until both nations agree, so we have checks and balances.
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