American Civil War [Reboot/ Open Sign Up]

[Zeinbrad]

Canada is a NATO Nation. As such, Canada has weapons at least on par with US weapons. I'd have to do research, but I'm pretty sure that Canada's army is pretty good. Of course, the US is top dog, but that doesn't mean that I can't get to the top.

A-10, your argument is invalid.

[Lolloh]

Is it??? Canada would probably have SOMETHING. A few bombers can take out those nice little A10s lined up in rows on your airfields.

[Zeinbrad]

Is it??? Canada would probably have SOMETHING. A few bombers can take out those nice little A10s lined up in rows on your airfields.

Still using bombers in 2028, your argument is invalid.

Also, F-35 and F-22, your argument is double invalid.

AND, Supercarriers, your argument is triple invalid.

[Hobbesistan]

Is it??? Canada would probably have SOMETHING. A few bombers can take out those nice little A10s lined up in rows on your airfields.

Still using bombers in 2028, your argument is invalid.

Also, F-35 and F-22, your argument is double invalid.

AND, Supercarriers, your argument is triple invalid.

I don't think the entire supercarrier fleet would remain intact

One may just secede to florida, yaknow
<_<

[Lolloh]

Really??? You can PROTECT bombers. That, and they've actually planned to release bombers (at this point) that would be able to actually blow up missiles with lasers!

Signing off!!!

[Hobbesistan]

By the way, the A-10 will long be out of service by 2028.

[Pragia]

NS Name: Pragia
Nation Name (after revolution): Missouri Federation
Capital City: Jefferson
Government Type: Republic
Head of State: Federation President Darien Shield
Head of Government (if different): Same
Claimed State: Missouri
Population: 6.7 million[/b] (Please use the forecast population...)
Military Size:20,000 soldiers, 30 Bradley IFVs, 40,000 national guard troops, 23 (All) of US B-2 Spirit strategic bombers, 8 A-10 Thunderbolt IIs
National Flag: Will get (Put in a spoiler or link it)
Any specific goal(s): maintain independence, liberate states from Omar's oppression (if applicable)
Brief Description of your nation's government:A small council made up of 5 elected leaders representing various parts of the federation, final approval by Federation President
Brief Description of your military Very well disciplined and structured, fairly well armed, and very well trained, very few in number. Very heavy reliance on air support and bomber fleets
RP Example: 2030 RP, among many others

[Zeinbrad]

Really??? You can PROTECT bombers. That, and they've actually planned to release bombers (at this point) that would be able to actually blow up missiles with lasers!

Signing off!!!

Missile Spam. Your argument is invalid.

[Zeinbrad]

Still using bombers in 2028, your argument is invalid.

Also, F-35 and F-22, your argument is double invalid.

AND, Supercarriers, your argument is triple invalid.

I don't think the entire supercarrier fleet would remain intact

One may just secede to florida, yaknow
<_<

Plot twist, Omar has a entire fleet of Supercarriers in his briefcase.

[Pragia]

Why do none of these RPs ban california... If it were to secede today it'd be the 6th largest global economy and have a military able to project global power...

suppose only saving grace is that its the least likely to want war (shame nobody would listen to that though)

[Photana]

Why do none of these RPs ban california... If it were to secede today it'd be the 6th largest global economy and have a military able to project global power...

Because Georgia and Oregon would have nuclear arsenals, just from the submarines they'd be taking. And I'm sure Kansas will still have some active Nuclear Silos.

Also, Gyren, my preparation for rebellion is secret, only a select few know of the plans, and only the commitee know of the details of the plan, so there is no way for Brazil to know that we are planning anything.

[Hobbesistan]

Why do none of these RPs ban california... If it were to secede today it'd be the 6th largest global economy and have a military able to project global power...

Because Georgia and Oregon would have nuclear arsenals, just from the submarines they'd be taking. And I'm sure Kansas will still have some active Nuclear Silos.

Also, Gyren, my preparation for rebellion is secret, only a select few know of the plans, and only the commitee know of the details of the plan, so there is no way for Brazil to know that we are planning anything.

They could easilly steal several nukes as well, and most nuclear power plants could in theory be converted to make nukes.

[Pragia]

Why do none of these RPs ban california... If it were to secede today it'd be the 6th largest global economy and have a military able to project global power...

Because Georgia and Oregon would have nuclear arsenals, just from the submarines they'd be taking. And I'm sure Kansas will still have some active Nuclear Silos.

Also, Gyren, my preparation for rebellion is secret, only a select few know of the plans, and only the commitee know of the details of the plan, so there is no way for Brazil to know that we are planning anything.

But that is just a nuclear arsenal, literally every state would have at least some (silos everywhere) but no launch keys.

Meanwhile I guess I do have 2/3s US SAC, but still, cali has the economy and the military to dominate every other state (and maybe have a good fight with Viginia and/or Texas)

[Hobbesistan]

Heres a good map of all sites used in U.S Nuclear weapons manufacture.


And i'd like to imagine that the launch keys can be spoofed given enough time and good minds.

[Eridanus 3]

Why do none of these RPs ban california... If it were to secede today it'd be the 6th largest global economy and have a military able to project global power...

suppose only saving grace is that its the least likely to want war (shame nobody would listen to that though)

Well... If California wasn't dumb...

(Their economy sucks in certain parts, and is great in others. LA, Sacramento, and San Francisco are always in debt... )

[Zepplien]

Private tank collection, the advantage of having your leaders be reclusive billionaires

Anyway, he is attached to his tanks, he won't let anyone else have them

Well, any man with a private collection of WW2 tanks is a friend of mine.

I will have to make him the Nevadan contact to California

[Hobbesistan]

Why do none of these RPs ban california... If it were to secede today it'd be the 6th largest global economy and have a military able to project global power...

suppose only saving grace is that its the least likely to want war (shame nobody would listen to that though)

Well... If California wasn't dumb...

(Their economy sucks in certain parts, and is great in others. LA, Sacramento, and San Francisco are always in debt... )

Most states, with the exception of (obviously) Texas, Florida, California, New York, and possibly Virginia, would immediatly go bankrupt without intervention after seceding as most take more money out from the fed then the put back into it.

[Eridanus 3]

Well, any man with a private collection of WW2 tanks is a friend of mine.

I will have to make him the Nevadan contact to California

I still need to finish my app... UGH!!!

[Eridanus 3]

Well... If California wasn't dumb...

(Their economy sucks in certain parts, and is great in others. LA, Sacramento, and San Francisco are always in debt... )

Most states, with the exception of (obviously) Texas, Florida, California, New York, and possibly Virginia, would immediatly go bankrupt without intervention after seceding as most take more money out from the fed then the put back into it.

If we took out the aforementioned areas, the state would turn a profit.

[Zeinbrad]

Well... If California wasn't dumb...

(Their economy sucks in certain parts, and is great in others. LA, Sacramento, and San Francisco are always in debt... )

Most states, with the exception of (obviously) Texas, Florida, California, New York, and possibly Virginia, would immediatly go bankrupt without intervention after seceding as most take more money out from the fed then the put back into it.

*Evil Smile comes across his face*

[Gyrenaica]

Because Georgia and Oregon would have nuclear arsenals, just from the submarines they'd be taking. And I'm sure Kansas will still have some active Nuclear Silos.

Also, Gyren, my preparation for rebellion is secret, only a select few know of the plans, and only the commitee know of the details of the plan, so there is no way for Brazil to know that we are planning anything.

But that is just a nuclear arsenal, literally every state would have at least some (silos everywhere) but no launch keys.

Meanwhile I guess I do have 2/3s US SAC, but still, cali has the economy and the military to dominate every other state (and maybe have a good fight with Viginia and/or Texas)

Ok wil edit

[Zepplien]

Most states, with the exception of (obviously) Texas, Florida, California, New York, and possibly Virginia, would immediatly go bankrupt without intervention after seceding as most take more money out from the fed then the put back into it.

*Evil Smile comes across his face*

But as in the real civil war, we can start printing our own money, and then, unlike in the real civil war, we can get loans from the IMF

[Zeinbrad]

*Evil Smile comes across his face*

But as in the real civil war, we can start printing our own money, and then, unlike in the real civil war, we can get loans from the IMF

*Shuts down the IMF*

Just as planned.

[Hobbesistan]

Map for all (interesting video & credits for above^)

Basically, anyone in red is going to have major economic troubles after seceding; they recieved far more in federal money then they could put back in, which is going to mean fiddeling with the currency(bad), immediate tax hikes(bad), or loaning(bad) for practically any state in red if they plan on keeping a somewhat-democratic system.

[Talanzaar]

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Map for all (interesting video & credits for above^)

Basically, anyone in red is going to have major economic troubles after seceding; they recieved far more in federal money then they could put back in, which is going to mean fiddeling with the currency(bad), immediate tax hikes(bad), or loaning(bad) for practically any state in red if they plan on keeping a somewhat-democratic system.

Rhode Island is white, what does that mean for me