Alleniana wrote:*is confused*
yeah, whatever, Taiwan. GOnna use it as nuke testing base, whatever.
I was planning for Hozida to serve the same purpose. Mwuhaha
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by Neo-Assyrian Empire » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:21 pm
Alleniana wrote:*is confused*
yeah, whatever, Taiwan. GOnna use it as nuke testing base, whatever.
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by Equalium » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:27 pm
by Gold state » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:27 pm
by Equalium » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:28 pm
Great Houses of Xie wrote:Oh, lawl, a lot has happened since I finally threw down my post in the IC thread.... Uh..... Lemme get to reading all this.
by Great Houses of Xie » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:31 pm
by Neo-Assyrian Empire » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:32 pm
Gold state wrote:Hi guys.
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by Gold state » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:34 pm
by Equalium » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:36 pm
Great Houses of Xie wrote:Hrm, interestingly, while it is true that a good bit of the army's assets are tied up in Sulawesi, the navy is not, nor is the other chunk of the army. The ships running supplies and troop runs for the army are all contracted merchants with few naval assets there. This is, of course, assuming that the backlogged negotiations between the Spanish, Japanese, and Ryuukyuuans pans out well for the Ryuukyuuans.
With as huge a population as Taiwan has relative to the population of the rest of the Ryuukyuus, the garrisons at Taiwan are the largest in all the Ryuukyuu holdings. Considering the recent Mosuan threats, those garrisons will have then been built up for the longterm, since Taiwan is incredibly likely to see war in the foreseeable future. Then, the navy will have set up shop in force, since the only way for China to get to Taiwan is over the water. Taiwan also has the ports necessary to house the fleets, unlike the Ryuukyuus proper.
As for the issue of the Taiwanese potentially rebelling, I doubt that'd be the case. They've had some 30 years to settle down under quite decent conditions. Both the Ryuukyuuans and Taiwanese have Chinese-based culture. The Ryuukyuuans have integrated the remaining Taiwanese governance into its own to speed up integration. It's not like the Ryuukyuuans, who have been quite secular, are trying to impose any undue cultural or religious conditions upon the Taiwanese. Furthermore, 30 years down the line, the next generation of Taiwanese have been put through Ryuukyuuan schools and known Ryuukyuuan influence all their lives, then have joined in and shared in the Ryuukyuu trade prosperity. They're quite the bastion of Ryuukyuu nationalism, at this point.
I could potentially have RPed bad governance taking a toll on the confidence of the Taiwanese, but that'd be against the Kingdom's historical precedence for competent, socialist governance.
by Neo-Assyrian Empire » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:40 pm
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Political Compass: Economic Left/Right: 1
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by Equalium » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:40 pm
by Alleniana » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:43 pm
by Equalium » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:45 pm
Alleniana wrote:Nukes are for noobs, diplomacy is where it's at.
by Great Houses of Xie » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:57 pm
by Equalium » Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:03 pm
Great Houses of Xie wrote:Wait, how are you already invading? Are you somehow predetermining that I don't get a chance to use the Ryuukyuuan navy to stave off the Chinese navy?
OK, rereading your post, all China is doing is mobilizing, at the moment. I'll have to write up something about that.
As for the culture thing. I'm very curious how you're arriving at your conclusion that Taiwan is heavily influenced by Japan, of all things. Did you work this out with Altito? Historically, the Japanese didn't really make it out of the Ryuukyuus in terms of culturalization, other than a precious few enclaves down in Oceania and SE Asia that died out because of the isolation. However, in this timeline, as has been pointed out a number of times, the Japanese went north, rather than south as they did historically. Unless Altito said something, which you haven't been able to reference, yet, I doubt the Japanese will have much influenced beyond the Ryuukyuus, since the Ryuukyuus are Japan's direct neighbor.
Assuming you're right about the cultural influence from Japan, you're saying that the Ryuukyuuans, who have blended Chinese and Japanese culture, are going to have a problem with the Taiwanese, who have also blended Chinese and Japanese culture? I'm inclined to think otherwise.
Though this isn't central to anything, I'm curious as to how you decided that 850,000 Taiwanese managed to run to Qingxi. Where did they get the boats? One of the largest emigrations in pre-industrial history is the Irish emigration to America. There were two million in 10 years. You have 850,000 in....two years? Granted, in their benevolence, the Ryuukyuuans aren't keen on sinking refugee boats, but, I feel like 850,000 is quite a high number relative to what Taiwan is capable of.
by Great Houses of Xie » Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:10 pm
by Bujahla » Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:11 pm
*Huzzah he lives!*
Nah, son. Britain was all like "yo, why my colonies be all uppity an' shit?!" And Lord Durham laid it straight: "they be wantin' legislation with representation, dawg."
by Equalium » Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:18 pm
Great Houses of Xie wrote:Links please. I don't know where to look in the old IC and OOC. You're also apparently a new entry, considering I saw your app on the new OOC. Which brings me back to the need for evidence, in the absence of Altito saying anything on the matter.
by Alleniana » Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:21 pm
Great Houses of Xie wrote:Links please. I don't know where to look in the old IC and OOC. You're also apparently a new entry, considering I saw your app on the new OOC. Which brings me back to the need for evidence, in the absence of Altito saying anything on the matter.
As for the tensions, yes, the garrisons were there for that. There will have been tension, but, as I pointed out, 30 years have gone by. There's anything but tension now.
by Equalium » Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:25 pm
Yeah and the "new entry" is actually representing the Exiled Taiwanese, not the Ryuukyuuian Taiwanese.Alleniana wrote:Great Houses of Xie wrote:Links please. I don't know where to look in the old IC and OOC. You're also apparently a new entry, considering I saw your app on the new OOC. Which brings me back to the need for evidence, in the absence of Altito saying anything on the matter.
As for the tensions, yes, the garrisons were there for that. There will have been tension, but, as I pointed out, 30 years have gone by. There's anything but tension now.
New entry? No, just some players chose to make apps for their now considerably developed nations on the new OOC for posterity.
by Great Houses of Xie » Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:27 pm
by Equalium » Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:29 pm
Great Houses of Xie wrote:Hrm, I don't see anything affirming that Altito allowed you to RP the Japanese. The only mentions he has are with Mosuo direct and nothing to say about Taiwan. Where did he say that you are allowed to RP the Japanese, since he says nothing of moving things to Taiwan and seems to actually have completely ignored Taiwan?
by Alleniana » Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:31 pm
by Equalium » Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:34 pm
Alleniana wrote:Just wait until Altito comes on and ask him, guys. This argument is pointless.
by Alleniana » Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:35 pm
by Equalium » Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:37 pm
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