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Die Wende: The Change (OOC, MT, Signup, Reboot, Closed)

Postby United Socialist Republics of Lupina » Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:43 pm

The year is 1989.

Ronald Reagan has finished his second and final term in the Oval Office of the President of the United States. George H. Bush has succeeded him in office; taking the reigns of the free world in these uncertain times. However, the future is looking brighter as the Cold War appears to be winding down.

Mikhail Gorbachev is the General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. He's been in office for four years and has been enacting liberal policies such as Glasnost and Perestroika to reform the Soviet Union to revive the Soviet economy after the stagnant Brehznev years and to bring the Communist Party into the twenty-first century. However, his policies are weakening the State's grip upon the country all the while giving more freedoms of expression to Soviet citizens; broadcasting the true living conditions of the 'worker's paradise' across the world.

Also, new Soviet foriegn policy champions non-intervention into the internal affairs of its allies. The end of the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan as the last soviet troops pull out in 1989. The Brehznev Doctrine has been completely abandoned and repproachment with the West to improve relations by reducing nuclear weapons through the INF Treaty signed in 1987. These have the dual effect of pleasing Western leaders and undermining the Soviet's allied leaders in the East.

A wave of nationalism and calls for more liberalization; even calls of independance have spread throughout the Republics of the Soviet Union and its allies in Eastern Europe; they threaten to tear apart the Warsaw Pact and even the Soviet Union itself. Independance from Moscow and freedom have become the cries of the protesters throughout the communist world.

May: Hungary begins openning it's border with Austria. Thousands of citizens from Czechsolvakia and East Germany (DDR. Eng: GDR) flee through Hungary into Austria.

June 1-4 Tiananmen Square Massacre:
The Communist Chinese government in Bejing under General Secretary Zhao Ziyang with hardliner conservative supporters enacted martial law in the capitol and order the military to crush student-led popular demonstrations in Tiananmen Square. Estimates of the death toll are high, some go over 2500; whilst thousands or injured or arrested.





Oct. 7

Gorbachev and most Warsaw Pact leaders attend the 40th Anniversary of the German Democratic Republic alongside Erich Honecker. A massive demonstration is made near the parade grounds; the cries of the people being aimed at Gorbachev personally: "Gorby, Help us! Gorby, save us!"

Gorbachev and the Soviet delegation depart as night begins to fall. The pilot of their jet reports trouble as the aircraft suddenly goes off the Radar of air-traffic controllers and the radio turns to static. It will take two and a half hours to find the wreckage near Strausburg and is searched for survivors. There are none. Gorbachev is dead.

Massive demonstrations across the DDR occur in ignorane of this fact. Erich Honecker orders security forces into the streets and with the fate of Gorbachev still unknown to the German leader; he gives orders for a violent crackdown upon the demonstrators.

The West is shocked by the brutal crackdown the East German government brings down upon the protesters; a particularly brutal scene witnessed in Leipzig being dubbed the "European Tiananmen Square". It is an even greater shock when in two days the Soviet Union comes out from complete silence on the matter and formally announces the death of Mikhail Gorbachev in the plane crash; immediatley sparking rumors and speculation of an assassination and a hardline coup.

In the two day media blackout the Soviet leadership has been taken over by the State Committee on the State of Emergency; chaired by Gennady Yanayev and announced as the new General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. Almost immediately protests and strikes take place within the Soviet Union; however martial law is declared and a curfew enforced as thousands are rounded up in arrests. When the protests turn violent; a crackdown similar to that experienced in the DDR occurs within the Soviet Union.


October 1989, The German dubbed: "Die Wende"

Many Warsaw Pact leaders follow Moscow's example and begin to enforce violent crackdowns on opposition in the streets. Opponents within the government are either removed from positions of power or purged from their countries respective Communist parties; such as Yelstin or Gennady Gerasimov in the Soviet Union or Manfred Gerlach in the DDR.

Whilst resistance to the oppressive regimes is strong and widespread at first; the futility of fighting the State and the bloodshed force the people off the streets. Moscow now begins reverting most of its policies back to their post-Gorbachev state excempting those pertaining to combating alcoholism, corruption and incentives for quality control.

The West is shocked as it watches events unfold behind the Iron Curtain. The political climate has now turned ice cold as the Cold War has revamped itself and has reached new heights of audacity. The percieved falling of Communism in Eastern Europe has been dashed and the world watches and waits to see what will come out of the Iron Curtain in the coming days, months, perhaps even years...




So basically as the title suggests this RP is about a change in the timeline where the Soviet Union and their allies in the Warsaw Pact have brutally reimposed their control upon their nations in the name of Communism. Gorbachev is dead under suspicious circumstances, the Soviet Union is under the control of a committee of hardline conservatives and have reverted back to pre-Gorbachev policies for the most part, Warsaw Pact nations have followed suite along similar lines of harshly re-imposing hardline policies.

What I want is basically a bunch of committed Rper's to make this alternate timeline come alive.

The obvious: no godmodding or flaming.
No one liner responses.
A min. of one paragraph (5-6 sentences) rp's.
Realism in your posts.
And you're allowed to pick any nation in the world. (Provided it hasn't already been taken)

Please use 1989 figures if you can find them.
Country:
Leader:
Ideology:
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned) :
Economy (Command, Capitalist, Free Market):
Currency:
Capitol:
Population:
Military Numbers in All (Personnel):
-Navy (Ships):
-Army (Troops):
-Air Force (Aircraft):
Nuclear Weapons Capable:
Main Resources:


[spoiler=My app:]
Country: Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
Leader: Gennady Yanayev
Ideology: Marxist-Leninist
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned): USSR
Economy (Command, Capitalist, Free Market): Command
Currency: Soviet Ruble
Capitol: Moscow
Population: Approx. 283,000,000
Military Numbers in All (Personnel): 3.9 million
-Navy (Ships): Approx. 200 ships and submarines combined.
-Army (Troops): 2.5 million
-Air Force (Aircraft): >7000 aircraft of varying types
Nuclear Weapons Capable: Yes
Main Resources: Petroleum, Minierals, Timber, Agriculture, Military Weapons[/spoiler]

Current Countries taken:

**Soviet Union (United Socialist Republics of Lupina)

*Hungary (United Socialist Republics of Lupina)

**East Germany (Northern Molovsky)

*West Germany (The New Lowlands)

*Egypt (Ardboe Eire )

**Poland (Ardboe Eire )

**People's Democratic Republic of Korea (Zeinbrad)

**United States of America (Riserland)

**France (Jerusalemian)

**Great Britian and Northern Ireland (Kherkov)

**Republic of South Africa(Benuty)

**Republic of India (Fortunagen)

*The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (Landenburg)

**Cuba (Kengburg)

**Syria (Jerusalemian )

**Iraq (Halleon)

*Canada (Unified East And West Germany)

*Republic of Japan (Altito Asmoro)


**Areas of great interest/possible future conflict/great rp potential
*Areas of interest/ally of potential future conflict/some rp potential

This is the OOC thread so please don't clutter up the IC when it's posted. Will put up the IC when we get enough apps.

IC:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=235556
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Postby Northern Molovsky » Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:08 pm

Country: East Germany (GDR)
Leader:Erich Honecker, (request to replace him with a hardliner with stasi background soon)
Ideology: Socialism in One country
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned) : USSR
Economy (Command, Capitalist, Free Market): command
Currency: east german mark
Capitol: east berlin
Population: 16,000,000
Military Numbers in All (Personnel): 175,300
-Navy (Ships): 10,000 men; 5 ropucha class landing craft, 5 kashin class destroyers, 5 minelayers, 20 turya torpedo boats, 3 squadrons of combat helicopters, 1 jasmund class intelligence ship, 4 koni class frigates
-Army (Troops): 135,000
-Air Force (Aircraft): 30,000, 40 MIG-29's, 50 SU-22, 250 MIG-21's,50 MIG 23's, 40 assorted transport aircraft, 250 SAM batteries, 250 assorted helicopters (Mi-8, MI-24 ect.).
paramilitary:55,000 border guards and 11,000 stasi combat troops (Felix Dzerzhinsky brigade), 210,000 combat groups of the working class (KdA)
Nuclear Weapons Capable: No
Main Resources: Heavy industry, arms manufacturing, chemical manufacturing.
Last edited by Northern Molovsky on Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:30 am, edited 6 times in total.
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Postby United Socialist Republics of Lupina » Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:02 pm

Northern Molovsky wrote:Country: East Germany (GDR)
Leader:Erich Honecker, (request to replace him with a hardliner with stasi background soon)
Ideology: Socialism in One country
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned) : USSR
Economy (Command, Capitalist, Free Market): command
Currency: east german mark
Capitol: east berlin
Population: 16,000,000
Military Numbers in All (Personnel): 175,300
-Navy (Ships): 10,000 men; 5 landingcraft, 5 destroyers, 5 minelayers, 20 torpedo boats, 3 squadrons of combat helicopters
-Army (Troops): 135,000
-Air Force (Aircraft): 30,000, 40 MIG-29's, 50 SU-22, 250 MIG-21's,50 MIG 23's, 40 assorted transport aircraft, 250 SAM batteries, 250 assorted helicopters (Mi-8, MI-24 ect.).
Nuclear Weapons Capable: No
Main Resources: Heavy industry, arms manufacturing, chemical manufacturing.


Accepted, however your request to remove Honecker is denied. Erich Honecker is the embodiment of Hardline Communism in Eastern Europe and as such you will not find a more harldine communist in East Germany or indeed the whole Warsaw Pact.
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Postby Ardboe Eire » Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:46 am

Country:Egypt
Leader:Hosni Mubarak
Ideology:Dictatorship
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned) :Bit of Both,Pro-USA.
Economy:Developing
Currency:Egyptian Pound
Capitol:Cairo
Population:68 million?
Military Numbers in All (Personnel):1 million
-Navy (Ships):30
-Army (Troops):500,000 men.
-Air Force (Aircraft):1200 aircraft (mostly Soviet Aircraft)
Nuclear Weapons Capable:not for a while
Main Resources: petroleum, natural gas, iron ore, phosphates, manganese, limestone, gypsum, talc, asbestos, lead, rare earth elements, zinc,textiles.
RPs I'm participating in:

Die Wende:The change (Cold War RP)OOC/Signup:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=235188&p=13832294#p13832294

World of 2013 RP(OOC/Sing-up page):http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=232224

East Vs. West (Cold War RP:OOC/Signups):http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=232162

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Postby United Socialist Republics of Lupina » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:07 am

Ardboe Eire wrote:Country:Egypt
Leader:Hosni Mubarak
Ideology:Dictatorship
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned) :Bit of Both,Pro-USA.
Economy:Developing
Currency:Egyptian Pound
Capitol:Cairo
Population:68 million?
Military Numbers in All (Personnel):1 million
-Navy (Ships):30
-Army (Troops):500,000 men.
-Air Force (Aircraft):1200 aircraft (mostly Soviet Aircraft)
Nuclear Weapons Capable:not for a while
Main Resources: petroleum, natural gas, iron ore, phosphates, manganese, limestone, gypsum, talc, asbestos, lead, rare earth elements, zinc,textiles.


Accepted, however the population is more like 57 million.
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Postby Ardboe Eire » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:29 am

United Socialist Republics of Lupina wrote:
Ardboe Eire wrote:Country:Egypt
Leader:Hosni Mubarak
Ideology:Dictatorship
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned) :Bit of Both,Pro-USA.
Economy:Developing
Currency:Egyptian Pound
Capitol:Cairo
Population:68 million?
Military Numbers in All (Personnel):1 million
-Navy (Ships):30
-Army (Troops):500,000 men.
-Air Force (Aircraft):1200 aircraft (mostly Soviet Aircraft)
Nuclear Weapons Capable:not for a while
Main Resources: petroleum, natural gas, iron ore, phosphates, manganese, limestone, gypsum, talc, asbestos, lead, rare earth elements, zinc,textiles.


Accepted, however the population is more like 57 million.

Ok.
It's grown rapidly since.
RPs I'm participating in:

Die Wende:The change (Cold War RP)OOC/Signup:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=235188&p=13832294#p13832294

World of 2013 RP(OOC/Sing-up page):http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=232224

East Vs. West (Cold War RP:OOC/Signups):http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=232162

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Postby Northern Molovsky » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:08 am

United Socialist Republics of Lupina wrote:
Northern Molovsky wrote:Country: East Germany (GDR)
Leader:Erich Honecker, (request to replace him with a hardliner with stasi background soon)
Ideology: Socialism in One country
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned) : USSR
Economy (Command, Capitalist, Free Market): command
Currency: east german mark
Capitol: east berlin
Population: 16,000,000
Military Numbers in All (Personnel): 175,300
-Navy (Ships): 10,000 men; 5 landingcraft, 5 destroyers, 5 minelayers, 20 torpedo boats, 3 squadrons of combat helicopters
-Army (Troops): 135,000
-Air Force (Aircraft): 30,000, 40 MIG-29's, 50 SU-22, 250 MIG-21's,50 MIG 23's, 40 assorted transport aircraft, 250 SAM batteries, 250 assorted helicopters (Mi-8, MI-24 ect.).
Nuclear Weapons Capable: No
Main Resources: Heavy industry, arms manufacturing, chemical manufacturing.


Accepted, however your request to remove Honecker is denied. Erich Honecker is the embodiment of Hardline Communism in Eastern Europe and as such you will not find a more harldine communist in East Germany or indeed the whole Warsaw Pact.


Sure, I was just thinking of someone even more of a hardliner, like erich mielke.
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Postby United Socialist Republics of Lupina » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:18 am

Northern Molovsky wrote:
Accepted, however your request to remove Honecker is denied. Erich Honecker is the embodiment of Hardline Communism in Eastern Europe and as such you will not find a more harldine communist in East Germany or indeed the whole Warsaw Pact.


Sure, I was just thinking of someone even more of a hardliner, like erich mielke.[/quote]

I doubt Mielke had political ambitions beyond heading the Stasi, he had far more power there than in any other position.
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Postby Ardboe Eire » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:25 am

So if Iraq invades Kuwair like in RL,will the USSR support Iraq or will it not due to the Iran-Iraq War.
RPs I'm participating in:

Die Wende:The change (Cold War RP)OOC/Signup:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=235188&p=13832294#p13832294

World of 2013 RP(OOC/Sing-up page):http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=232224

East Vs. West (Cold War RP:OOC/Signups):http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=232162

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Postby United Socialist Republics of Lupina » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:34 am

Ardboe Eire wrote:So if Iraq invades Kuwair like in RL,will the USSR support Iraq or will it not due to the Iran-Iraq War.


No, the Soviet Union will likely remain neutral but will sell supplies an equipment to Iraq, just as it did during the Iran-Iraq War. (Iran opposed both the US and the USSR, therefore both supplied Saddam at one point or another.)
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Postby Kherkov » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:43 am

Question: Is this going to be slight AW or extreme? E.g. could... erm... Japan go communist in this or does it have to stay as it was for the most part?

Also, may I reserve the UK?
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Postby Riserland » Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:45 pm

shame to see the USSR is already taken..... :(

Country: The United States of America
Leader:George H. Bush
Ideology: Capitalist/2 party democracy
Alignment: self
Economy: Mixed
Currency: dollar
Capitol: Washington D.C
Population: 246,819,230
Military Numbers in All (Personnel):
Active front-line personnel: 1,477,896
Active reserve personnel: 1,458,500
-Navy (Ships): 290 (including auxiliaries)
-Army (Troops): 750,000
-Air Force (Aircraft): 15,293 total, 6,665 of which are helicopters
Nuclear Weapons Capable: yes
Main Resources: coal, copper, lead, molybdenum, phosphates, rare earth elements, uranium, bauxite, gold, iron, mercury, nickel, potash, silver, tungsten, zinc, petroleum, natural gas, timber
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Postby Zeinbrad » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:00 pm

Time to play as north Korea,Why because North Korea is Best Korea!
Country:North korea
Leader:Kim Il-sung
Ideology: Communism/Juche
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned) : USSR
Economy: Command.
Currency:North Korean won
Capitol: Pyongyang
Population: 21,229,000
Military Numbers in All (Personnel):
-Navy (Ships): 40,000 sailors 708 vessels
-Army (Troops): 1,106,000 Active,8,200,000 Reserve.
-Air Force (Aircraft): 110,000 personal 1,600 Aircraft
Nuclear Weapons Capable: No,But we will try and try again.
Main Resources:coal, lead, tungsten, zinc, graphite, magnesite, iron ore, copper, gold, pyrites, salt, fluorspar, hydropower

If anyone can find 80s figures tell me.
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Postby United Socialist Republics of Lupina » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:57 pm

Riserland wrote:shame to see the USSR is already taken..... :(

Country: The United States of America
Leader:George H. Bush
Ideology: Capitalist/2 party democracy
Alignment: self
Economy: Mixed
Currency: dollar
Capitol: Washington D.C
Population: 246,819,230
Military Numbers in All (Personnel):
Active front-line personnel: 1,477,896
Active reserve personnel: 1,458,500
-Navy (Ships): 290 (including auxiliaries)
-Army (Troops): 750,000
-Air Force (Aircraft): 15,293 total, 6,665 of which are helicopters
Nuclear Weapons Capable: yes
Main Resources: coal, copper, lead, molybdenum, phosphates, rare earth elements, uranium, bauxite, gold, iron, mercury, nickel, potash, silver, tungsten, zinc, petroleum, natural gas, timber


Accepted

Zeinbrad wrote:Time to play as north Korea,Why because North Korea is Best Korea!
Country:North korea
Leader:Kim Il-sung
Ideology: Communism/Juche
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned) : USSR
Economy: Command.
Currency:North Korean won
Capitol: Pyongyang
Population: 21,229,000
Military Numbers in All (Personnel):
-Navy (Ships): 40,000 sailors 708 vessels
-Army (Troops): 1,106,000 Active,8,200,000 Reserve.
-Air Force (Aircraft): 110,000 personal 1,600 Aircraft
Nuclear Weapons Capable: No,But we will try and try again.
Main Resources:coal, lead, tungsten, zinc, graphite, magnesite, iron ore, copper, gold, pyrites, salt, fluorspar, hydropower

If anyone can find 80s figures tell me.


Accepted, these figures will do fine.

Kherkov wrote:Question: Is this going to be slight AW or extreme? E.g. could... erm... Japan go communist in this or does it have to stay as it was for the most part?
Also, may I reserve the UK?


To answer your question in a word: Maybe. Nothing so extreme as a total communist takeover of Japan, but in a volatile world anything goes. Everything is going to be as realistic as possible so you will not find democratic capitalist nations suddenly turn communist overnight. This is the late 80's early 90's, Communism has lost its luster in the East and was waning in the Western world. Thus, the communist regimes are brutally regaining their control on power and are unlikely to care about the international revolution for some time seeing as their economies cannot afford a war with the west.
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Postby Kherkov » Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:36 pm

United Socialist Republics of Lupina wrote:
Kherkov wrote:Question: Is this going to be slight AW or extreme? E.g. could... erm... Japan go communist in this or does it have to stay as it was for the most part?
Also, may I reserve the UK?


To answer your question in a word: Maybe. Nothing so extreme as a total communist takeover of Japan, but in a volatile world anything goes. Everything is going to be as realistic as possible so you will not find democratic capitalist nations suddenly turn communist overnight. This is the late 80's early 90's, Communism has lost its luster in the East and was waning in the Western world. Thus, the communist regimes are brutally regaining their control on power and are unlikely to care about the international revolution for some time seeing as their economies cannot afford a war with the west.


I don't want to change the ideology of a nation, it's just playing as the UK I'd like to hold on to the fragments of Empire, and maybe say the Sino-British Joint Declaration of 1984 didn't happen? Maybe even more so, i.e. I still hold some other major colonies (perhaps given dominion status instead of full independence), although places like India, Canada, Australia and other major ones should be fully independent. I'd also like to expand my nuclear capabilities.
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Postby Lenciland » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:09 pm

Country:China
Leader:Jiang Ximen
Ideology:One-Party Communist People's Repuublic
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned) :USSR
Economy (Command, Capitalist, Free Market):Communist
Currency:Yuan
Capitol:Beijing
Population:1,156,759,500
Military Numbers in All (Personnel):2.3 million
-Navy (Ships):5 SLBM missile submarines, 100 attack submarines, 900 fast attack craft, 30 frigates, 40 minesweepers
-Army (Troops):1.7 million
-Air Force (Aircraft):76 SU-27, 72 Jian JH-7, 180, shanyang J-8, 369 J-7, 240 Q-5, 7 Y-9 transports, 80 y-7 medium transports, 40 harbin WZ-9,210 Harbin Z-9, 330 MI-8, 26 Changhe Z-
Nuclear Weapons Capable:Yes 175 ICBMs
Main Resources: Manufactured goods, uranium, weapons, electronics, meat, wood, ores, and salt.
I hope it okay if I change I decided I couldn't do enough as Switzerland. I will finish this tomorrow.
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Postby United Socialist Republics of Lupina » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:24 pm

Kherkov wrote:
I don't want to change the ideology of a nation, it's just playing as the UK I'd like to hold on to the fragments of Empire, and maybe say the Sino-British Joint Declaration of 1984 didn't happen? Maybe even more so, i.e. I still hold some other major colonies (perhaps given dominion status instead of full independence), although places like India, Canada, Australia and other major ones should be fully independent. I'd also like to expand my nuclear capabilities.


Everything that happened up to October 1989 is unchanged; this rp deals with post-Oct, '89. Your asking to change things that has already taken place. So, my answer is no. The UK is a commonwealth and the British Empire is no more. Britain is diplomatically weak and no longer the superpower it once was, you can do what you like to try and improve this situation but you need to do it post-Oct '89, not changing everything before it on a whim.

Lenciland wrote:Country:Switzerland
Leader:Elisabeth Copp(for now)
Ideology:Federal Republic
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned) :Unaligned
Economy (Command, Capitalist, Free Market):Capitalist
Currency:Swiss Franc
Capitol:Bern
Population:8,000,000
Military Numbers in All (Personnel):400,000
-Navy (Ships):80 PBRs
-Army (Troops):400,000
-Air Force (Aircraft):270 aircraft about 2,000 people
Nuclear Weapons Capable:No
Main Resources:water,iron, magnesium, lime, salt, sand, gravel, clay, and marble


Accepted, but I don't know what you'll do as Switzerland.
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Postby Kherkov » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:43 pm

United Socialist Republics of Lupina wrote:
Kherkov wrote:
I don't want to change the ideology of a nation, it's just playing as the UK I'd like to hold on to the fragments of Empire, and maybe say the Sino-British Joint Declaration of 1984 didn't happen? Maybe even more so, i.e. I still hold some other major colonies (perhaps given dominion status instead of full independence), although places like India, Canada, Australia and other major ones should be fully independent. I'd also like to expand my nuclear capabilities.


Everything that happened up to October 1989 is unchanged; this rp deals with post-Oct, '89. Your asking to change things that has already taken place. So, my answer is no. The UK is a commonwealth and the British Empire is no more. Britain is diplomatically weak and no longer the superpower it once was, you can do what you like to try and improve this situation but you need to do it post-Oct '89, not changing everything before it on a whim.



Well, it's still an Empire, the Empire ends on the 1st July 1997. And we're still a major power...

But I see, alright.
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Postby United Socialist Republics of Lupina » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:21 pm

[quote="Kherkov";p="13837718"}

Well, it's still an Empire, the Empire ends on the 1st July 1997. And we're still a major power...

But I see, alright.[/quote]

You can recinde the 1984 Joint Declaration if you wish, I'm just not changing the history leading up to 1989, that's all. You can go at it any way you wish once we get into it.
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Postby Jerusalemian » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:34 pm

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Postby Northern Molovsky » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:37 pm

We Need a Western Germany...
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Postby Kherkov » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:07 am

United Socialist Republics of Lupina wrote:[quote="Kherkov";p="13837718"}

Well, it's still an Empire, the Empire ends on the 1st July 1997. And we're still a major power...

But I see, alright.


You can recinde the 1984 Joint Declaration if you wish, I'm just not changing the history leading up to 1989, that's all. You can go at it any way you wish once we get into it.[/quote]

Ok.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:19 am

Im back

Country: Republic of South Africa
Leader: President P.W Botha
Ideology: Apartheidic Fascist Republicanism
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned) : Unaligned
Economy: Capital
Currency: South African Rand
Capitol: Johannesburg
Population: 36,794,000 (1989 census)
Military Numbers in All (Personnel):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Afri ... ence_Force
(Ships):
-Army (Troops):
-Air Force (Aircraft):
Nuclear Weapons Capable: Yes
Main Resources:
http://www.southafricaweb.co.za/page/na ... uth-africa
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Postby United Socialist Republics of Lupina » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:08 am

Benuty wrote:Im back

Country: Republic of South Africa
Leader: President P.W Botha
Ideology: Apartheidic Fascist Republicanism
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned) : Unaligned
Economy: Capital
Currency: South African Rand
Capitol: Johannesburg
Population: 36,794,000 (1989 census)
Military Numbers in All (Personnel):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Afri ... ence_Force
(Ships):
-Army (Troops):
-Air Force (Aircraft):
Nuclear Weapons Capable: Yes
Main Resources:
http://www.southafricaweb.co.za/page/na ... uth-africa


Accepted
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Postby United Socialist Republics of Lupina » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:20 pm

The IC is now up: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=235556

I eagerly await your posts :)
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