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Postby Kouralia » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:44 am

I think I have discovered the Greatest Englishman ever, while writing that Essay:

‘Play up! and play the game!’ – To what extent has ‘Britishness’ been evident in British martial endeavours? wrote:Lieutenant Colonel A.D. Wintle is possible one of the most eccentric people to have lived – even when compared to the above. In World War One his first action resulted in him being covered with the entrails of his recently-introduced Platoon Sergeant as a mortar strike erupted around him. Petrified, he stood to attention, saluted and began singing the National Anthem, later writing: ‘Within thirty seconds I was able to become again an Englishman of action and to carry out calmly the duties I had been trained to perform.’ (Wintle, 1968) During the War he also captured the village of Vesle singlehandedly, stating after he handed it over to the official attacking force of New Zealanders that, while he had no recollection of his actions, ‘It does sound the sort of thing I'd do’. In Ypres he was escorting a gun carriage across land when a shell burst, killing the horse and hospitalising him, his first words allegedly being ‘Is the horse alright?’ While at said hospital he discovered that a trooper of his regiment was dying of Scarlet Fever in bed, so he shoved the doctors aside and said the following: ‘Now look here. It's against Kings Regulations for a Dragoon to die in bed. Now I order you to stop dying at once! And when you do get up, get your bloody hair cut!’. Trooper Cedric Mays recovered and lived to the age of 95.

In World War Two Wintle was imprisoned in the tower for threatening Air Commodore A.R. Boyle with a pistol after the RAF Officer refused to give him a plane to fly to France and rally the French Air Force to relocate to Britain. En-route to the Tower, the Private escorting him lost the warrant, so he declared the man incompetent and ordered him to remain there. The Colonel then travelled back to the office and looked for an Officer to sign a new warrant; finding he was the highest ranked officer present Wintle signed his own arrest warrant and returned to the train (Wintle, 1968) (TvTropes). His eccentricity didn’t stop here, as he was released with two of three charges dropped and an official reprimand for the ‘threatening with a gun’. After a deployment to Syria he was then sent to Vichy France undercover to report on the state of British PoWs. Betrayed, tried as a spy and imprisoned, the English Officer then proceeded to explain to his captors that it was his duty to escape – escaping shortly afterwards. After being recaptured, he went on hunger strike for thirteen days because of the ‘slovenly appearance of the guards who are not fit to guard an English officer!’ (Wintle 1968). This relented when they paraded in their best uniform, however he still frequently reprimanded them for being cowardly traitors until he escaped successfully by sawing through his cell’s window’s bars. Following this, as stated by the Commander of the prison on the Colonel’s ‘This Is Your Life’, ‘because of Wintle's dauntless determination to maintain English standards and his constant challenge to our authority’ the entire garrison of over 250 men defected to the resistance (Wintle, p242).
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Postby Morrdh » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:47 am

Kouralia wrote:I think I have discovered the Greatest Englishman ever, while writing that Essay:


I suggest you read up on 'Fighting Mad' Jack Churchill.
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Postby Kouralia » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:49 am

Morrdh wrote:
Kouralia wrote:I think I have discovered the Greatest Englishman ever, while writing that Essay:


I suggest you read up on 'Fighting Mad' Jack Churchill.

*sigh* Morrdh, you think too badly of me and this wounds me. :p

My essay includes the following individuals:

For the former I will look primarily at the Capture of Ahmednagar, Lieutenant General Sir Adrian Paul Ghislain Carton de Wiart (VC, KBE, CB, CMG, DSO), Lieutenant Colonel John Malcolm Thorpe Fleming "Jack" Churchill (DSO*, MC*), Lieutenant Colonel Alfred Daniel Wintle (MC), Major Allison Digby Tatham-Warter (DSO) and Captain Wilfred Nevill. For the instances of a ‘Stiff Upper Lip’, I will look at Field Marshal Henry William Paget (The Earl of Uxbridge), General Rowland Hill (1st Viscount Hill), The Duke of Wellington, Captain Edward Coverley Kennedy, The British Airborne in Arnhem and Captain Cuthbert Collingwood (1st Baron Collingwood).
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Postby Morrdh » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:56 am

Kouralia wrote:
Morrdh wrote:
I suggest you read up on 'Fighting Mad' Jack Churchill.

*sigh* Morrdh, you think too badly of me and this wounds me. :p

My essay includes the following individuals:


Man up! :P

It was really a suggestion if you haven't heard about Jack Churchill before, he's the only British soldier known to have felled an enemy with a longbow in WWII.

He's also the guy with the sword in this picture (yes, he did carry the sword into battle along with his trusty bow and bagpipes).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jack_ ... _sword.jpg

And then there's his Badass of the Week entry; http://www.badassoftheweek.com/churchill.html
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Postby Kouralia » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:59 am

Morrdh wrote:
Kouralia wrote:*sigh* Morrdh, you think too badly of me and this wounds me. :p

My essay includes the following individuals:


Man up! :P

It was really a suggestion if you haven't heard about Jack Churchill before, he's the only British soldier known to have felled an enemy with a longbow in WWII.

He's also the guy with the sword in this picture (yes, he did carry the sword into battle along with his trusty bow and bagpipes).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jack_ ... _sword.jpg

And then there's his Badass of the Week entry; http://www.badassoftheweek.com/churchill.html

Did you even read the list of people in my essay? Me-thinks not, sir. Second name in is as follows: 'Lieutenant Colonel John Malcolm Thorpe Fleming "Jack" Churchill (DSO*, MC*)'.

I recommend you read about Lieutenant General de Wiart and Major Allison Digby Tatham-Warter (google it and select the Pegasus Archive link). Respectively being basically a fucking badass and taking out a German Armoured Car with an umbrella.
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Postby Morrdh » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:00 am

Kouralia wrote:Did you even read the list of people in my essay? Me-thinks not, sir. Second name in is as follows: 'Lieutenant Colonel John Malcolm Thorpe Fleming "Jack" Churchill (DSO*, MC*)'.

I recommend you read about Lieutenant General de Wiart and Major Allison Digby Tatham-Warter (google it and select the Pegasus Archive link). Respectively being basically a fucking badass and taking out a German Armoured Car with an umbrella.


I did, links more for other people's benefit.

Will do.
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Postby Kouralia » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:23 am

Britain: Not Arrogant, just Mad.
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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:21 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Morrdh wrote:
I suggest you read up on 'Fighting Mad' Jack Churchill.

*sigh* Morrdh, you think too badly of me and this wounds me. :p

My essay includes the following individuals:

For the former I will look primarily at the Capture of Ahmednagar, Lieutenant General Sir Adrian Paul Ghislain Carton de Wiart (VC, KBE, CB, CMG, DSO), Lieutenant Colonel John Malcolm Thorpe Fleming "Jack" Churchill (DSO*, MC*), Lieutenant Colonel Alfred Daniel Wintle (MC), Major Allison Digby Tatham-Warter (DSO) and Captain Wilfred Nevill. For the instances of a ‘Stiff Upper Lip’, I will look at Field Marshal Henry William Paget (The Earl of Uxbridge), General Rowland Hill (1st Viscount Hill), The Duke of Wellington, Captain Edward Coverley Kennedy, The British Airborne in Arnhem and Captain Cuthbert Collingwood (1st Baron Collingwood).

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Postby Goram » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:26 pm

United Kingdom of Poland wrote:
Kouralia wrote:*sigh* Morrdh, you think too badly of me and this wounds me. :p

My essay includes the following individuals:


what no doug


No Nelson, more to the point.

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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:28 pm

GOram wrote:
United Kingdom of Poland wrote:what no doug


No Nelson, more to the point.

or that the germans actually created booby-traps designed just for english officers.

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Postby The balkens » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:59 pm

United Kingdom of Poland wrote:
GOram wrote:
No Nelson, more to the point.

or that the germans actually created booby-traps designed just for Cutler .


fixed for our situation.

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Postby Britcan » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:06 pm

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United Kingdom of Poland wrote:or that the germans actually created booby-traps designed just for Cutler .


fixed for our situation.

If you want to get rid of Cutler that badly just convince Matthias to kill him. Then you could legitimately say that he was shot by a German.

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Postby The balkens » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:18 pm

Britcan wrote:
The balkens wrote:
fixed for our situation.

If you want to get rid of Cutler that badly just convince Matthias to kill him. Then you could legitimately say that he was shot by a German.


"well sir, he was killed by a Jerry. said Jerry disappeared and then matthias came back saying that he killed the jerry that killed cuntl-i mean cutler."

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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:27 pm

The balkens wrote:
United Kingdom of Poland wrote:or that the germans actually created booby-traps designed just for Cutler .


fixed for our situation.

no they legitimatly had a trap, it was a picture frame put slightly esque with the framed wired and anotjher wire running to explosives in the wall, when the said officer corrected the picture, the wires connected and said officer lost a hand. I say english officers because lets be honest, the american and russian ones would just either steal it or not give a damn about the picture.
besides why would the german want to get rid of their most valuable asset in our ranks.

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Postby Goram » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:10 pm

Kouralia wrote:My essay includes the following individuals:

For the former I will look primarily at the Capture of Ahmednagar, Lieutenant General Sir Adrian Paul Ghislain Carton de Wiart (VC, KBE, CB, CMG, DSO), Lieutenant Colonel John Malcolm Thorpe Fleming "Jack" Churchill (DSO*, MC*), Lieutenant Colonel Alfred Daniel Wintle (MC), Major Allison Digby Tatham-Warter (DSO) and Captain Wilfred Nevill. For the instances of a ‘Stiff Upper Lip’, I will look at Field Marshal Henry William Paget (The Earl of Uxbridge), General Rowland Hill (1st Viscount Hill), The Duke of Wellington, Captain Edward Coverley Kennedy, The British Airborne in Arnhem and Captain Cuthbert Collingwood (1st Baron Collingwood).


Isn't he the officer that, along with having just the most incredible name, carried an umbrella into Arnhem and refused to wear a helmet as opposed to a beret?

PS. I see you've already mentioned the umbrella. Damnably unfortunate. On another note, you could be right. Colonel Wintle does seem like the most English Englishman of all time.
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Postby The balkens » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:39 pm

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Boriem wrote:So, I figure from this point on all the Axis pilots will have Focke-Wulfs, right?

Not quite yet. The FW 190 didn't go into service for another year.
The new German aircraft that got mentioned (I should have said this earlier, I know...) was actually meant to be the Heinkel HE100 prototype:
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Only about 20 were ever made. A lot of records about them were destroyed in a bombing raid on a Heinkel plant, so relatively little is known about them. They were supposed to be the new German "1935 fighter", but got beat out by the ME109. It's possible some got used in combat, however. I based their huge speed and low maneuverability on the fact that it was originally designed as a race aircraft.

I'd be OK with the Kraut pilots adding those to their arsenal.



hey tiger? what are the odds that Dietrich could get his hands on one of these?

(yes, i read all of the things before it.)

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Postby Kouralia » Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:41 pm

GOram wrote:
United Kingdom of Poland wrote:what no doug


No Nelson, more to the point.

Nelson didn't do much apart from the 'Kiss me Hardy' with regards to being noticeably excessively British.

GOram wrote:
Kouralia wrote:My essay includes the following individuals:



Isn't he the officer that, along with having just the most incredible name, carried an umbrella into Arnhem and refused to wear a helmet as opposed to a beret?

PS. I see you've already mentioned the umbrella. Damnably unfortunate. On another note, you could be right. Colonel Wintle does seem like the most English Englishman of all time.
Refused to wear a helmet: he instead wore a bowler hat for quite some time.
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Postby Len Hyet » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:57 pm

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Goddamn it Samantha what are you doing and does Silva need to shoot someone?
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Postby Monfrox » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:00 pm

Len Hyet wrote::palm:
Goddamn it Samantha what are you doing and does Silva need to shoot someone?

All will be revealed in good time. I like how this is playing out, honestly.
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Postby Morrdh » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:05 pm

Monfrox wrote:
Len Hyet wrote::palm:
Goddamn it Samantha what are you doing and does Silva need to shoot someone?

All will be revealed in good time. I like how this is playing out, honestly.


Good thing the defences of RAF airfields at this pointing is still rather...lacking.
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Postby Kouralia » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:06 pm

Morrdh wrote:
Monfrox wrote:All will be revealed in good time. I like how this is playing out, honestly.


Good thing the defences of RAF airfields at this pointing is still rather...lacking.

'Cept for the chappy on gate, who has learned how to stand to attention, following at least 48 hours of Smythe having nothing to do but beast people prior to the Squadron's return. :p
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Postby Monfrox » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:06 pm

Morrdh wrote:
Monfrox wrote:All will be revealed in good time. I like how this is playing out, honestly.


Good thing the defences of RAF airfields at this pointing is still rather...lacking.

Guess some of the pilots are gonna have to pick up the slack.
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Postby Morrdh » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:08 pm

Monfrox wrote:
Morrdh wrote:
Good thing the defences of RAF airfields at this pointing is still rather...lacking.

Guess some of the pilots are gonna have to pick up the slack.


Well anything is better than a pair of WW1 era machine guns strapped together and called an anti-air battery, course thats presuming Tempsford even has that.
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Postby Kouralia » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:10 pm

Morrdh wrote:
Monfrox wrote:Guess some of the pilots are gonna have to pick up the slack.


Well anything is better than a pair of WW1 era machine guns strapped together and called an anti-air battery, course thats presuming Tempsford even has that.

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Postby Morrdh » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:12 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Morrdh wrote:
Well anything is better than a pair of WW1 era machine guns strapped together and called an anti-air battery, course thats presuming Tempsford even has that.

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Russia practices it.


Pretty sure Russia has it better than this.

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