Science Fiction Nation RP 2060 OOC and Sign-Up Thread

[Dolmhold]

I did find the Canada thing a bit extreme, but I thought it was just about feasible so its fine. I'm always willing to be a bit more flexible when the application form has been written well.

Whereas things can vary extensively after 50+ years, it is an unfortunate and fortunate reality that Canada is a big nation with small amounts of people. On the other hand, if the Japanese government considers all of the Avatars to be another individual, and machine avatars to not be robots, then the 5% may be justified, especially if one throws in a good economic tie and most of them being foreign workers.

Edit: I was one of those people you described in F7/Portal to the Multi a few months ago XD
I seriously am embarresed about how I Rped backed then... I'm trying my best to get rid of that old Rping mental status now and embrace the new and better one.

[Danbershan]

I did find the Canada thing a bit extreme, but I thought it was just about feasible so its fine. I'm always willing to be a bit more flexible when the application form has been written well.

Whereas things can vary extensively after 50+ years, it is an unfortunate and fortunate reality that Canada is a big nation with small amounts of people. On the other hand, if the Japanese government considers all of the Avatars to be another individual, and machine avatars to not be robots, then the 5% may be justified, especially if one throws in a good economic tie and most of them being foreign workers.

Edit: I was one of those people you described in F7/Portal to the Multi a few months ago XD

Sorry, I meant the nation of Canada, not the Canadians in Japan. That I'm confused about, but you have got an explanation I hadn't thought of, which might explain a lot. By the sound of it Canada has got some serious technological expertise.

And say what now? :L

[Dolmhold]

Sorry, I meant the nation of Canada, not the Canadians in Japan. That I'm confused about, but you have got an explanation I hadn't thought of, which might explain a lot. By the sound of it Canada has got some serious technological expertise.

And say what now? :L

Ah, that? Well, being the US' neighbour helps for one, along with a strong education program as represented by Canada's marks. Furthermore, as represented by the Canadarm, I read somewhere that Canada is among the foremost researchers in robotics, along with Japan. Recently, the Brain Drain to the USA had been reversed, meaning that the technological expertise is coming back and one needs to look no further then Avro Canada and their insane ideas to show what Canadian brains can do. Mach 2 interceptor with fly by wire technology in the 1960s, a tech that took the US over 20 years more to develop, ain't no ordinary feat.

Furthermore, there are rumors and "theories" that Nasa of the 1970s+ was made of ex-Canadians whom once worked with A.V Roe, but lost their job when American pressure and the threat of Soviet Spies forced the Canadian government to shut it down.

[Shuggy555]

Sure. What sorts of things do you have to trade? Come to think of it... what resources would I have to trade?

well there are alot of metals on the moon and becuase there is no water there, any glass you will make will be super strong.

I could always trade water to you?

[Daiteikoku Nippon]

Sorry, I meant the nation of Canada, not the Canadians in Japan. That I'm confused about, but you have got an explanation I hadn't thought of, which might explain a lot. By the sound of it Canada has got some serious technological expertise.

And say what now? :L

Ah, that? Well, being the US' neighbour helps for one, along with a strong education program as represented by Canada's marks. Furthermore, as represented by the Canadarm, I read somewhere that Canada is among the foremost researchers in robotics, along with Japan. Recently, the Brain Drain to the USA had been reversed, meaning that the technological expertise is coming back and one needs to look no further then Avro Canada and their insane ideas to show what Canadian brains can do. Mach 2 interceptor with fly by wire technology in the 1960s, a tech that took the US over 20 years more to develop, ain't no ordinary feat.

Furthermore, there are rumors and "theories" that Nasa of the 1970s+ was made of ex-Canadians whom once worked with A.V Roe, but lost their job when American pressure and the threat of Soviet Spies forced the Canadian government to shut it down.

I heard about that theory. I studied Canadian History back in my high school.

Is there anything else I need to fix in order for my history to comply with the common timeline?

[Danbershan]

Sure. What sorts of things do you have to trade? Come to think of it... what resources would I have to trade?

well there are alot of metals on the moon and becuase there is no water there, any glass you will make will be super strong.

I could always trade water to you?

It turns out there's lunar water in the craters on the Moon.

[Dolmhold]

I heard about that theory. I studied Canadian History back in my high school.

Is there anything else I need to fix in order for my history to comply with the common timeline?

Well, from what I know, no Japanese would willingly abandon their religion for Atheism. None. They are quite devout but not in the Christian, Jewish or Islamic sense. However, they love their religion. Furthermore, Eastern mysticism tends to hold on a lot stronger then the Mono religions by virtue of being less attackable. Maybe lower the amount of Atheists. Furthermore, Japan is epically Buddhist, so you need to include them somewhere.

Also, IRL as far as we know, the reason for their dropping rates aren't nukes, but because as a nation gets richer and more powerful, their people are less willing to have children, and especially more-so with Japan's culture telling them that once they get married, they have designated roles and can not have (as much) fun. Similar issues are seen in Canada, Lithuania and mot of Europe. The US maintains above replacement levels because there is an unfortunate amount of poverty in the USA (not much, but still enough), and as seen in Africa, poor people have lots of kids. Lots.

Edit: Furthermore, the capital IRL is Toyko (formerly called Edo), and it doesn't seem like it would change any time soon. But with 50 years, you have a leeway with it.

[Dolmhold]

Nation Name: Canada

Demographics

Population: 38 Million
Racial Demographics: (Will amount to over 100%, due to having multiple bodies but one central mind)

Human bodies (100%):

Based of Census results:

Canadian: (52%)
English (5%)
French: (7%)
Scottish: (6%)
Irish: (5%)
German: (6%)
Chinese: (3%)
Italian: (4%)
North American Aboriginal (4%)
Strong AI Orgin (2%)
American (USA) (3%)
Other: (3%)

Avatars:

Homonoid Robotic: 263%
Non-Homonoid Robotic: 120%
Homonoid Biological: 124%
Non-Homonoid Biological: 43%




Religious Demographics:

Catholic: 26%
Protestant: 16%
Other Christian: 16%
Jewish: 1%
Muslim: 2%
Buddhist: 2%
Hindu: 2%
Sikh: 1%
None: 32%
Other: 4%

Demographics of Language: (Work)
English: (77%)
French: (21%)
Other: (2%)
Any other Demographic Details: There is a steady move to the western regions of Canada for work.

The educational expenditures are nearing 6% of GDP

"Canadian" Identifies as those whom identify as Canadian, in reality they'd be divided up between English, Scottish, French, Irish, German and Second-Generation+ Chinese, American, others, etc.

Culture

Primary Cultural Contributors: National stereotypes, American culture, European, First Nations (Aboriginal), Chinese, Indian.
Notable Cultural Quirks: Canadians tend to have a great like for the great outdoors and will often venture into their own national parks for vacation. Furthermore, the First Nations have a considerable impact while national stereotypes take root. There is often love, respect and trust for authority, namely the Mountees, although anarchist groups are taking hold.
Any other Cultural Info?:

Other

Political System: Percentage-based representative democracy with elements pushing for Direct E-democracy.

Economic System: Resouce-Based Capitalist Economy:

The revolution began with the textiles. Once again, the textiles were the first fruits of the revolution as the first generations of 3-D printers made themselves avaliable to the common citizens. My nation began to fall into an abyss of change before my eyes as I watched with ever-increasing joy as the box ate the cotton at once end and the shirt of which I had so carefully designed under hours of tedious work on the computer, which was tedious even with my mind interface on, was spat out at the other end, perfect as could be imagined.

What had occured was that the hum of the robotic hands whirred with ever-high pitched whining as the laser cutters emitted the now familiar smell of the burning cotton while emitting a interesting laser sound while at it, narrowly missing the ink jets which stained the individual threads to perfection. There, before my eyes, was my creation. A few dollars worth of raw material in the form of ink and cotton mixed with the rather large electric cost of another dollar. The revolution had come to me.

-Myself, 2031 (Yes, I put myself in there).

Basically, the retailer and the manufacturer had just become largely, but not completely, eliminated and remade as 3-D printers capable of making most things (all the way to alright computing cores) and capable of taking in most varieties of things came to be, with the manufacturer being the ones whom purify or mix the resources and the retailer selling raw resources rather then finished goods, or selling flea-market style the creations of other people as well as high-tech things not yet manufacturable by 3D printers, which have become wide-spread. The economy remains capitalist largely as one still needs to buy the electricity and the resources, but a state nearing post scarcity has come to be.

However, alongside the eDemocracy movement comes the Venus Project's Resource Based Post Scarcity Economy Proposals mixed with the new technology that has come to be, and there is a chance that Canada may convert to a post scarcity economy as test cities are built up in Left-leaning provinces like Quebec, Manitoba and British Columbia and the Right-Leaning provinces like Ontario and Alberta watch closely, ready to critique or switch at a moments glance.

In terms of nanofactories, they are fast approaching and due to arrive in (X) years, as well as atomic recombination. Molecular recombination is in use and wide-spread, but not used much as it is inefficient, energy consuming and painfully slow. However, that theoretically implies an unlimited amount of resources, but only if required.

Location: The current nation of Canada. I know Quebec is outlined to be independent in the original post, but I find it to be highly unlikely given various factors such as the BQ's resounding defeat in their own electorate of Quebec recently and the popularity of the NDP there, which does not advocate for succession at all. Quebec is already independent in its own right, controlling nearly every aspect of itself short of Federal equalization schemes and the military, and the largest group that identified themselves as Canadian in the 2012 census was from Quebec. It'd take some serious mess-ups by the government in power to produce such a successionist move. Of course, being biased by virtue of being an optimistic Canadian here, this might not be the case.

History: Canada was never a global power, and never wanted to be, but by 2040, they had once again found themselves in the position to assume a global leadership role on the scale of UK and France, due to their unique position of having 35% of all mining companies stationed in Canada, being one of the leaders in robotic research, new trading ties with rising powers and a strong grip on the energy market by virtue of vast deposits of uranium, the success of green technologies in provinces like BC, AB and Ont, new reserves of resources in the Arctic and so forth, combined with the developmental reversal of the low population problem that prevented Canada's rise as a global power in the last century by means of Avatars. Canada, power usage-wise, still acts as if it was the Canada of half a century ago, a ever-rising nation in denial. Perhaps this denial was correct, as new, space based nations form and cybernations take forever more strength.

Internally, the sudden reversal of the brain-drain fortune coupled with an influx of investments and immigrants has resulted in a counter-wave nationalistic feel by the second-generation immigrants, whom, while not actively persecuting the newcomers, have become much more vocal in limiting immigration and promoting a Canadian identity.

Anything Else?:

Furthermore, the more I read this app, the more I'd like to say that it is in progress, not yet finished. It is too sloppy....

Added in economics, what do you think?

[Daiteikoku Nippon]

I heard about that theory. I studied Canadian History back in my high school.

Is there anything else I need to fix in order for my history to comply with the common timeline?

Well, from what I know, no Japanese would willingly abandon their religion for Atheism. None. They are quite devout but not in the Christian, Jewish or Islamic sense. However, they love their religion. Furthermore, Eastern mysticism tends to hold on a lot stronger then the Mono religions by virtue of being less attackable. Maybe lower the amount of Atheists. Furthermore, Japan is epically Buddhist, so you need to include them somewhere.

Also, IRL as far as we know, the reason for their dropping rates aren't nukes, but because as a nation gets richer and more powerful, their people are less willing to have children, and especially more-so with Japan's culture telling them that once they get married, they have designated roles and can not have (as much) fun. Similar issues are seen in Canada, Lithuania and mot of Europe. The US maintains above replacement levels because there is an unfortunate amount of poverty in the USA (not much, but still enough), and as seen in Africa, poor people have lots of kids. Lots.

Edit: Furthermore, the capital IRL is Toyko (formerly called Edo), and it doesn't seem like it would change any time soon. But with 50 years, you have a leeway with it.

About the religions in the country, it is actually true. According to an article written by the Seattle Times in 1995, 70% of the population of 125 million profess no religious membership. That data was in 1995, the rate might be even higher in the 21st century. And yes, I have forgotten about it Buddhism, I'll add that religion in.

I suppose you are right about the slumping birth rates as well, I'll get on that. I guess we learn a lot everyday eh? As an admirer of Japanese culture and its subculture, I am a bit ashamed that I missed out certain parts.

I'll do a repost of my App. With all the suggestions and stuff.

[Dolmhold]

About the religions in the country, it is actually true. According to an article written by the Seattle Times in 1995, 70% of the population of 125 million profess no religious membership. That data was in 1995, the rate might be even higher in the 21st century. And yes, I have forgotten about it Buddhism, I'll add that religion in.

I suppose you are right about the slumping birth rates as well, I'll get on that. I guess we learn a lot everyday eh? As an admirer of Japanese culture and its subculture, I am a bit ashamed that I missed out certain parts.

I'll do a repost of my App. With all the suggestions and stuff.

Hmm... interesting, that I didn't know. With the 50+ years and what I know of their new generation coming in, that rate will probably rise extensively so...

Also, if you bring back nuclear, Canada has plenty of reserves that we can trade with you. As in insane amounts in our Canadian Shield region. We account for 20% of the worlds nuclear ore production with just 2 small mines so if we really felt like it, we could go insane. Furthermore, as this is the future, I'll be using traveling wave reactors and all other forms of interesting new nuclear technology, so it would be dramatically safer. The recent leak in Japan proved the safety, not the failure of nuclear technology funny enough. It took a massive earthquake, a tsunami and a volcano all at once to even cause a small leak. Just one leak, not even a meltdown! Nuclear leaks aren't really dangerous at all, and overall nuclear is bound to be more safe and even more viable as a energy source in the near future. Then again, solar is like IT. It is on an exponental rise. That means that solar could very well beat all sources of energy by 2020, easily and with magnitudes of power to spare. However, they'd likely be located near the equator and so a nation might not choose to trust the likes of the Middle East and Mexico.

[Daiteikoku Nippon]

Name of your Nation: Empire of Daiteikoku Nippon (Unofficial: State of Japan)

Demographics
Population: 109 million
Racial Demographics:
89% Human (50% Japanese, 5% Korean, 8% Chinese, 3% American, 1% Canadian, 12% African, 13% South American, 8% European.)
11% Robot
Religious Demographics:
5% New Religious Movements
10% Roman Catholicism
17% Buddhism
23% Shinto
45% Atheism
Any other Demographic Details:
Average age: 42
Fertility rate: Approaching World Standard

Culture
Primary Cultural Contributors: Japanese-Western European Hybrid.
Notable Cultural Quirks: Anime Subculture
Any other Cultural Info?: As the society head towards a more secular one, religion has fallen to hard times in the populous parts of the country. In the countryside, however, it is a different story. Religion is still a major part of their life, and people actively join in religious celebrations.

Other
Political System:
Constitutional Monarchy with Unitary Parliamentary Democracy
--Head of State: Empress of Daiteikoku Nippon, Appointed by the Yaoyorozu no Kami, Empress Momoyo.
--Head of Government: The Right Honourable Daisuke Issei, Prime Minister of Daiteikoku Nippon
Economic System:
Technocapitalism
--Description: Traditional Capitalism with new technology sectors, the power of corporations, and new forms of organization.
Location: Modern Japan. Has 4 O'Neill Cylinder orbital habitats on Earth's orbit. The Capital City is Kyoto.
History:
Following Japan's defeat in World War II, the conservative and authoritarian Daiteikoku Nippon was transformed into a technological, cosmopolitan, and highly cultured nation by the start of the 21st century. But the side effect of the transformation was the nation's fertility rate. In recent years, the nation's fertility rate has gone down significantly since World War II. Sociologists and Experts rooted the cause of the slumping fertility rate. As the nation moved forward, people are less interested in having children.

Other issues were also brought up. Since the 20th Century following the years since World War II, anti-nuclear groups to sprang across the Daiteikoku Nippon criticizing the safety systems implemented on nuclear power and demands to deactivate it. But the nuclear power was the top producer of power and getting rid of it is the last thing the government want. In 2011, as the people began to see the benefits of nuclear power, earthquakes in parts of Daiteikoku Nippon caused a nuclear meltdown at Fukushima Daiichi. The meltdown caused anti-nuclear rallies to re-emerge, and the Diet to declare a temporary deactivation of all nuclear power plants, causing a strain on the power grid. The strain was resolved in 2016 as the Wind Farms off the coast of Japan are a common sight. As of this day, Nuclear Power is still offline.

However, the falling fertility rate is still a major problem. In an effort to combat the falling fertility rate, Emperor Akihito in his last Imperial Address at the Imperial Diet, prompted the opening Daiteikoku Nippon's immigration to the world. The opened immigration sent thousands of Koreans and Chinese interested in living at Daiteikoku Nippon, and further drew crowds of new-rich and skilled workers from the rest of the world, although none as much as their neighbours.

In 2023, the influx of immigrants in Daiteikoku Nippon are causing stress in the food production. After months of debate in the Imperial Diet, a controversial 23 billion dollar project was passed. The "Mirai Project" aims to create artificial islands off the coast of Japan to alleviate the food shortages and boost production. Four years after the project began, and almost 100,000 tonnes of rocks mined across the Daiteikoku Nippon, a 200 hectares of fertile lands suitable for agriculture was finished.

The success of the project caused the funding for construction of more lands. By 2035, the Mirai Island Chain was completed and the agricultural industry was moved to these islands. The unused land left behind by the agricultural industry made way for more cities to be constructed and the economy rose. And so did the fertility rate. The influx of new cultures and new ideas increased the rate for the first time in many years, 16% in just two years.

By 2040, Emperor Yukihito came to power. His reign and his fascination with space exploration marked the beginnings of the new Nippon space program. DNSA, the space agency of Daiteikoku Nippon with the help of the Mitsubishi Jūkōgyō Kabushiki-kaisha, and the Sumitomo Kikyuu Kikai Kougi Kyou, they were able to launch the first O'Neill Cylinder, the Midori Station, to Earth's orbit. This launch was the first of four launches. With one launched every six years and constructed at orbit, these Orbital Habitats housed at least 20,000 people in each habitat.

But the weak health of the Emperor made his reign one of the shortest in Nippon's history. In 2058, a 29 year old Empress Momoyo ascended on the Chrysanthemum Throne. Like her father, she has an interest in space exploration and asked the Imperial Diet to continue the space program. They agree. The public and the Imperial Diet agree that Daiteikoku Nippon increase their foothold in space.
Two years after Empress Momoyo's reign began, plans are currently being drawn to create settlements on the moon

Anything Else?: That's about it really.

[Daiteikoku Nippon]

About the religions in the country, it is actually true. According to an article written by the Seattle Times in 1995, 70% of the population of 125 million profess no religious membership. That data was in 1995, the rate might be even higher in the 21st century. And yes, I have forgotten about it Buddhism, I'll add that religion in.

I suppose you are right about the slumping birth rates as well, I'll get on that. I guess we learn a lot everyday eh? As an admirer of Japanese culture and its subculture, I am a bit ashamed that I missed out certain parts.

I'll do a repost of my App. With all the suggestions and stuff.

Hmm... interesting, that I didn't know. With the 50+ years and what I know of their new generation coming in, that rate will probably rise extensively so...

Also, if you bring back nuclear, Canada has plenty of reserves that we can trade with you. As in insane amounts in our Canadian Shield region. We account for 20% of the worlds nuclear ore production with just 2 small mines so if we really felt like it, we could go insane. Furthermore, as this is the future, I'll be using traveling wave reactors and all other forms of interesting new nuclear technology, so it would be dramatically safer. The recent leak in Japan proved the safety, not the failure of nuclear technology funny enough. It took a massive earthquake, a tsunami and a volcano all at once to even cause a small leak. Just one leak, not even a meltdown! Nuclear leaks aren't really dangerous at all, and overall nuclear is bound to be more safe and even more viable as a energy source in the near future. Then again, solar is like IT. It is on an exponental rise. That means that solar could very well beat all sources of energy by 2020, easily and with magnitudes of power to spare. However, they'd likely be located near the equator and so a nation might not choose to trust the likes of the Middle East and Mexico.

Wave reactors? Care to explain that to a person currently doing a paramedics program in college? (Specifically me. LOL) Still, the Japanese have high standards when it comes to earthquakes, not surprising since the land itself straddles several earth plates! And the Fukushima Daiichi, unfortunately, suffered 2 meltdowns out of 4 reactors. IMO, deactivating all 44 reactors in Japan is a bit overkill, but well, gotta be careful.

And also, I will consider the trade with the nuclear ore once the RP started.

[Shuggy555]

well there are alot of metals on the moon and becuase there is no water there, any glass you will make will be super strong.

I could always trade water to you?

It turns out there's lunar water in the craters on the Moon.

There is water on the moon, but not in large amounts, its still drier then any desert on earth.

The asteroids i'm on however are composed mainly of ice...

[Shuggy555]

Hmm... interesting, that I didn't know. With the 50+ years and what I know of their new generation coming in, that rate will probably rise extensively so...

Also, if you bring back nuclear, Canada has plenty of reserves that we can trade with you. As in insane amounts in our Canadian Shield region. We account for 20% of the worlds nuclear ore production with just 2 small mines so if we really felt like it, we could go insane. Furthermore, as this is the future, I'll be using traveling wave reactors and all other forms of interesting new nuclear technology, so it would be dramatically safer. The recent leak in Japan proved the safety, not the failure of nuclear technology funny enough. It took a massive earthquake, a tsunami and a volcano all at once to even cause a small leak. Just one leak, not even a meltdown! Nuclear leaks aren't really dangerous at all, and overall nuclear is bound to be more safe and even more viable as a energy source in the near future. Then again, solar is like IT. It is on an exponental rise. That means that solar could very well beat all sources of energy by 2020, easily and with magnitudes of power to spare. However, they'd likely be located near the equator and so a nation might not choose to trust the likes of the Middle East and Mexico.

Wave reactors? Care to explain that to a person currently doing a paramedics program in college? (Specifically me. LOL) Still, the Japanese have high standards when it comes to earthquakes, not surprising since the land itself straddles several earth plates! And the Fukushima Daiichi, unfortunately, suffered 2 meltdowns out of 4 reactors. IMO, deactivating all 44 reactors in Japan is a bit overkill, but well, gotta be careful.

And also, I will consider the trade with the nuclear ore once the RP started.

The traveling wave reactor is just like any other fast breeder reactor, it just has a fancy name.

A fast breeder reactor does not thermalise neutrons so they can be captured more easily by U-235 but rather leaves them with there high energy (hence fast), this means that the neutron economy is more important but it also means that non-fissile materials can be fissioned inside the reactor. It basicly burns the acnides that would normaly build up and stop the chain reaction, it also changes U-238, a fertile material (non-fissile) into plutonium which is fissile, the plutonium is then fissioned to keep the reaction going. In some designs, more Plutonium is produced then used, hence the name breeder.

These types of reactors are very efficient and can run on many different fuels ranging from depleted uranium, thorium and even nuclear waste.

[Danbershan]

It turns out there's lunar water in the craters on the Moon.

There is water on the moon, but not in large amounts, its still drier then any desert on earth.

The asteroids i'm on however are composed mainly of ice...

The amount of water on the Moon is still up for debate - http://io9.com/5805307/the-moon-may-hav ... earth-does

Also, even if its harder to get on the Moon, it would have to be a lot harder for it to be cheaper to import from the asteroids.

[Soviet Ruk-Tsan]

Name of your Nation: (self explanatory) The Lunar Confederacy
Demographics
Population: (be realistic) What do you think?
Racial Demographics: (include species, race, etc. Break down 'Human' into Arab, Berber, Black African etc, and 'Modified Human' into Bright, Merfolk etc.
Entirely, 100% Sentient Orangutan
Religious Demographics: (Don't get too carried away with new religious movements. In Europe, remember how much Islam is spreading already)
65% None, 15% Catholicism 5% Islam 5% Jewish 10% Other
Demographics of Language: (include any official languages in use)
English, Orangutan (Open to suggestions to name for language)
Any other Demographic Details: (fill in as much as you like - average age, growth rate, fertility rate, suicide rate, immigration/emmigration trends)
Suicide is very low, but still exists. There is not emigration, as there is not any cheap way off the moon, though there is a small immigration size, from Orangutans mainly from earth.
Culture
Think a mix of Europe and Africa
Primary Cultural Contributors: The benefactors, the old culture of Orangutan
Notable Cultural Quirks: There is a social hierarchy that is extremely important to life (like normal Orangutans)
Any other Cultural Info?: Not really
Other
Political System: (no reason to go into too much detail, just a quick summary) Sort of a Monarchy, but it's not called that
Economic System: (as above, just briefly) What do you mean by this?
Location: (if applicable, can be fluid in some cases, perhaps nomadic nations) Luna, Moon of Earth
History: (be thorough and realistic please) All the stuff we discussed before
Anything Else?: Not really

[Shuggy555]

There is water on the moon, but not in large amounts, its still drier then any desert on earth.

The asteroids i'm on however are composed mainly of ice...

The amount of water on the Moon is still up for debate - http://io9.com/5805307/the-moon-may-hav ... earth-does

Also, even if its harder to get on the Moon, it would have to be a lot harder for it to be cheaper to import from the asteroids.

Not really, using the interplanetary transport network(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplanetary_Transport_Network

, it would require very little energy to send materials to the moon from an asteroid with very weak gravity.

I could litraly cut the ice straight out of the ground and transport thousands of tons of it to the moon for very little energy.

[Shuggy555]

Name of your Nation: (self explanatory) The Lunar Confederacy
Demographics
Population: (be realistic) What do you think?
Racial Demographics: (include species, race, etc. Break down 'Human' into Arab, Berber, Black African etc, and 'Modified Human' into Bright, Merfolk etc.
Entirely, 100% Sentient Orangutan
Religious Demographics: (Don't get too carried away with new religious movements. In Europe, remember how much Islam is spreading already)
65% None, 15% Catholicism 5% Islam 5% Jewish 10% Other
Demographics of Language: (include any official languages in use)
English, Orangutan (Open to suggestions to name for language)
Any other Demographic Details: (fill in as much as you like - average age, growth rate, fertility rate, suicide rate, immigration/emmigration trends)
Suicide is very low, but still exists. There is not emigration, as there is not any cheap way off the moon, though there is a small immigration size, from Orangutans mainly from earth.
Culture
Think a mix of Europe and Africa
Primary Cultural Contributors: The benefactors, the old culture of Orangutan
Notable Cultural Quirks: There is a social hierarchy that is extremely important to life (like normal Orangutans)
Any other Cultural Info?: Not really
Other
Political System: (no reason to go into too much detail, just a quick summary) Sort of a Monarchy, but it's not called that
Economic System: (as above, just briefly) What do you mean by this?
Location: (if applicable, can be fluid in some cases, perhaps nomadic nations) Luna, Moon of Earth
History: (be thorough and realistic please) All the stuff we discussed before
Anything Else?: Not really

I'm sorry i'm not the OP but can i nit pick?

Getting off the moon is very cheap and easy to do, particularly for a colony that can make its own fuel.

For instence the Aluminium-oxygen reaction produce's enough thrust and ISP to easily carry paylaods into lunar orbit and both aluminium and oxygen are products of living on the moon.

[Soviet Ruk-Tsan]

I'm sorry, it's just the op said about being in a gravity well, and the difficulty of getting into space, but if I did make my own fuel...

[Dolmhold]

Name of your Nation: Empire of Daiteikoku Nippon (Unofficial: State of Japan)

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Demographics
Population: 109 million
Racial Demographics:
89% Human (50% Japanese, 5% Korean, 8% Chinese, 3% American, 1% Canadian, 12% African, 13% South American, 8% European.) Diversify and watch out for taking too much from small nations.
11% Robot
Religious Demographics:
5% New Religious Movements
10% Roman Catholicism
17% Buddhism
23% Shinto
45% Atheism
Any other Demographic Details:
Average age: 42 Low Fertility high average age.
Fertility rate: Approaching World Standard

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Culture
Primary Cultural Contributors: Japanese-Western European Hybrid.
Notable Cultural Quirks: Anime Subculture
Any other Cultural Info?: As the society head towards a more secular one, religion has fallen to hard times in the populous parts of the country. In the countryside, however, it is a different story. Religion is still a major part of their life, and people actively join in religious celebrations.

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Other
Political System:
Constitutional Monarchy with Unitary Parliamentary Democracy
--Head of State: Empress of Daiteikoku Nippon, Appointed by the Yaoyorozu no Kami, Empress Momoyo.
--Head of Government: The Right Honourable Daisuke Issei, Prime Minister of Daiteikoku Nippon
Economic System:
Technocapitalism
--Description: Traditional Capitalism with new technology sectors, the power of corporations, and new forms of organization.
Location: Modern Japan. Has 4 O'Neill Cylinder orbital habitats on Earth's orbit. The Capital City is Kyoto.
History:
Following Japan's defeat in World War II, the conservative and authoritarian Daiteikoku Nippon was transformed into a technological, cosmopolitan, and highly cultured nation by the start of the 21st century. But the side effect of the transformation was the nation's fertility rate. In recent years, the nation's fertility rate has gone down significantly since World War II. Sociologists and Experts rooted the cause of the slumping fertility rate. As the nation moved forward, people are less interested in having children.

The discovery shocked the nation, causing various anti-nuclear groups to sprang across the Daiteikoku Nippon. But the nuclear power was the top producer of power and getting rid of it is a the last thing the government want. In 2011, earthquakes in parts of Daiteikoku Nippon caused a nuclear meltdown at Fukushima Daiichi. The meltdown caused anti-nuclear rallies to re-emerge, and the Diet to declare a temporary deactivation of all nuclear power plants, causing a strain on the power grid. In 2016, Wind Farms off the coast of Japan are a common sight. As of this day, Nuclear Power is still offline.

However, the falling fertility rate is still a major problem. In an effort to combat the falling fertility rate, a declaration made by Emperor Akihito (Shouldn't it be the prime minister in charge? As far as I know, the Emperor serves a ceremonial and symbolic role only, like Queen Eliz. in his last appearance at the Imperial Diet opened Daiteikoku Nippon's immigration to the world. The opened immigration sent thousands of Koreans and Chinese interested in living at Daiteikoku Nippon, and further drew crowds of new-rich and skilled workers from the rest of the world, although none as much as their neighbours.

In 2023, the influx of immigrants in Daiteikoku Nippon are causing stress in the food production. After months of debate in the Imperial Diet, a controversial 23 billion dollar project was passed. The "Mirai Project" aims to create artificial islands off the coast of Japan to alleviate the food shortages and boost production. Four years after the project began, and almost 100,000 tonnes of rocks mined across the Daiteikoku Nippon, a 200 hectares of fertile lands suitable for agriculture was finished.

The success of the project caused the funding for construction of more lands. By 2035, the Mirai Island Chain was completed and the agricultural industry was moved to these islands. The unused land left behind by the agricultural industry made way for more cities to be constructed and the economy rose. And so did the fertility rate. The influx of new cultures and new ideas increased the rate by 16% in two years.

By 2059, a new Empress came to power. Her reign marked the beginnings of the new Daiteikoku Nippon's space program. DNSA, the space agency of Daiteikoku Nippon with the help of the Mitsubishi Jūkōgyō Kabushiki-kaisha, and the Sumitomo Kikyuu Kikai Kougi Kyou, DNSA was able launched four O'Neill Cylinders to Earth's orbit.

In order to launch material that fast, you'd have to have either an insane amount of rockets at your disposal or some kind of space launcher. Furthermore, these things are larger then anything we've every built, even on Earth so you'd need some way to assemble them fast and strong. May I recommend moving the date back about 20 years or so so that it is realistic?

These Orbital Habitats housed a total of 200,000 people. And plans are currently being drawn to create settlements in the moon.

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Anything Else?: That's about it really.

[Soviet Ruk-Tsan]

Sorry, Japan, what was that about the moon?

[Daiteikoku Nippon]

Historical info discrepancies resolved on my App 2.0.

@Soviet Ruk-stan: What do you mean? It's not like you own the moon.

[Soviet Ruk-Tsan]

Oh, and it is meant to be Soviet Ruk-Tsan, not Soviet Ruk-Stan, I understand the mistake, it happens a lot.

[Soviet Ruk-Tsan]

It was a joke, representing the fact that the lunar confederacy is fiercely against human colonies on Luna. >.<
And no, I don't own the moon...






Yet.

[Danbershan]

Name of your Nation: (self explanatory) The Lunar Confederacy
Demographics
Population: (be realistic) What do you think?
Racial Demographics: (include species, race, etc. Break down 'Human' into Arab, Berber, Black African etc, and 'Modified Human' into Bright, Merfolk etc.
Entirely, 100% Sentient Orangutan
Religious Demographics: (Don't get too carried away with new religious movements. In Europe, remember how much Islam is spreading already)
65% None, 15% Catholicism 5% Islam 5% Jewish 10% Other
Demographics of Language: (include any official languages in use)
English, Orangutan (Open to suggestions to name for language)
Any other Demographic Details: (fill in as much as you like - average age, growth rate, fertility rate, suicide rate, immigration/emmigration trends)
Suicide is very low, but still exists. There is not emigration, as there is not any cheap way off the moon, though there is a small immigration size, from Orangutans mainly from earth.
Culture
Think a mix of Europe and Africa
Primary Cultural Contributors: The benefactors, the old culture of Orangutan
Notable Cultural Quirks: There is a social hierarchy that is extremely important to life (like normal Orangutans)
Any other Cultural Info?: Not really
Other
Political System: (no reason to go into too much detail, just a quick summary) Sort of a Monarchy, but it's not called that
Economic System: (as above, just briefly) What do you mean by this?
Location: (if applicable, can be fluid in some cases, perhaps nomadic nations) Luna, Moon of Earth
History: (be thorough and realistic please) All the stuff we discussed before
Anything Else?: Not really

Not very comprehensively filled in I'm afraid. I'd suggest a population of a few hundred, at most, considering most Orangutans will not be in this colony, and there won't be that many in total. Assuming six children per female orangutan, and a generation time of 15 years, and an uplift date in 2035, with a starting population of 30, we'd have a population of 390. Even allowing for a few hundred more, there aren't a lot of orangutans going quite yet. The history is atrocious, we need more, especially the origins of the Orangutans. You seem to have implied they were uplifted in Europe and Africa, and have not ventured far beyond. What is 'the old culture of Orangutan'? What is the social hierarchy? 'Sort of a Monarchy'? Economic System: capitalist, communist, socialist, etc. Where on Luna? What is the Orangutan language? Where is it from? Why do the orangutans not speak Spanish, French, Mandarin, Swahili, Somalian, Arabic? What's going on with the religions? How was the colony founded? What kind of structures is it made of?

The amount of water on the Moon is still up for debate - http://io9.com/5805307/the-moon-may-hav ... earth-does

Also, even if its harder to get on the Moon, it would have to be a lot harder for it to be cheaper to import from the asteroids.

Not really, using the interplanetary transport network(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplanetary_Transport_Network

, it would require very little energy to send materials to the moon from an asteroid with very weak gravity.

I could litraly cut the ice straight out of the ground and transport thousands of tons of it to the moon for very little energy.

I was unaware that Hygiea was in the Interplanetary Transport Network? Also, there's physically getting it down there.

To the guy who said it would be easy to get resources off the Moon if they were producing their own fuel, there's still the cost of producing the fuel, and the infrastructure, and maintaining the systems, and so forth, all for resources which can be found elsewhere in any case.