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Elerian
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Postby Elerian » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:46 pm

Could you post a roster preez?

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Pavlostani
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Postby Pavlostani » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:47 pm

Valentir wrote:
Pavlostani wrote:NS Nation: Pavlostani
RP Nation: Ottoman Sultanate
Government Type: Sultanate
Religion: Islam
Currency: Akce, Para, Kurus, Lira, Sultani
Population: 15 million
Leader: Sultan Suleiman the Magnificant
Army Size: Following by the 120,000 rule... 120,000. By the 5% rule, I'd go 375,000 (2.5%). Your call, Val. Perhaps, 120,000 professional troops, plus the additional 255,000 as less professional Janissaries.

I will allow 120,000 for peace. But in war you can have an additional 100,000, just to be fair. I mean 220,000 is nice force, but no way 120,000 of them are professional, perhaps 50,000?


That seems fair.
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Pavlostani wrote:NS Nation: Pavlostani
RP Nation: Ottoman Sultanate
Government Type: Sultanate
Religion: Islam
Currency: Akce, Para, Kurus, Lira, Sultani
Population: 15 million
Leader: Sultan Suleiman the Magnificant
Army Size: Following by the 120,000 rule... 120,000. By the 5% rule, I'd go 375,000 (2.5%). Your call, Val. Perhaps, 120,000 professional troops, plus the additional 255,000 as less professional Janissaries.

Oh god, why did I pick next to the Ottomans...I am changing my nation to avoid rape.


I'll focus on NPCs first... first.
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Dires
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Postby Dires » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:49 pm

Valentir wrote:
Dires wrote:NS Nation: Dires
RP Nation: The Chinese Empire (Ming Dynasty)
Government Type: Absolute Monarchy
Religion: Confucianism, Buddhism, Daoism
Currency: Silver Taels
Population: 125 million
Leader: The Zhengde Emperor
Army Size: Total: 5%: 6,250,000, Which seems a bit excessive, what do you suggest?

No more than 100,000 even for your empire's size


Historically, the standing army at this time numbered over 1 million, and had the world's largest shipyards. I understand your need for balance, but how the hell can an army of 100,000 hope to contain, defend, or subdue a population of 125,000,000? (Especially in a pre-industrial era?)
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Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.31
http://www.politicaltest.net/test/result/400019/

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Christian New Andalusia
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Postby Christian New Andalusia » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:52 pm

Editied APP:

NS Nation: Providence and Port Hope (Christian New Andalusia is a puppet)
RP Nation: Sweden
Government Type: Theocracy
Religion: Christianity
Currency: Mark
Population: 2 million
Leader: Bly Pastor Erik Gustav
Army Size: (Cannot go over 5% during peace) 40,000
Christian New Andalusia is a group of provinces under the Antillesian Republic of Providence and Port Hope.

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Valentir
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Postby Valentir » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:53 pm

Dires wrote:
Valentir wrote:No more than 100,000 even for your empire's size


Historically, the standing army at this time numbered over 1 million, and had the world's largest shipyards. I understand your need for balance, but how the hell can an army of 100,000 hope to contain, defend, or subdue a population of 125,000,000? (Especially in a pre-industrial era?)

Still, 1,000,000 would allow you to steam roller everything touching you. 170,000? With 500,000 Town watch or militia unable to be used in war?

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Elerian
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Postby Elerian » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:55 pm

NS Nation: Elerian
RP Nation: Kingdom of Poland
Government Type: Hereditary monarchy
Religion: Roman Catholic
Currency: Zloty
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_z%C5%82oty

Population: 7.5 Million
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Poland

Leader: Alexander Jagiellon
Army Size: (Cannot go over 5% during peace) 100,000

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Postby Pavlostani » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:55 pm

Valentir wrote:
Dires wrote:
Historically, the standing army at this time numbered over 1 million, and had the world's largest shipyards. I understand your need for balance, but how the hell can an army of 100,000 hope to contain, defend, or subdue a population of 125,000,000? (Especially in a pre-industrial era?)

Still, 1,000,000 would allow you to steam roller everything touching you. 170,000? With 500,000 Town watch or militia unable to be used in war?


Well, an army of a million needed to watch over his nation wouldn't be able to spare it's entire bulk to fight wars. It would have to leave many thousands behind to keep the homeland safe.
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Mauretania Tingitana (Ancient)
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Postby Mauretania Tingitana (Ancient) » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:55 pm

Need some new world powers?

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Valentir
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Postby Valentir » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:58 pm

Elerian wrote:NS Nation: Elerian
RP Nation: Kingdom of Poland
Government Type: Hereditary monarchy
Religion: Roman Catholic
Currency: Zloty
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_z%C5%82oty

Population: 7.5 Million
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Poland

Leader: Alexander Jagiellon
Army Size: (Cannot go over 5% during peace) 100,000

Accepted and his is the third co-op

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Dires
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Postby Dires » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:58 pm

Pavlostani wrote:
Valentir wrote:Still, 1,000,000 would allow you to steam roller everything touching you. 170,000? With 500,000 Town watch or militia unable to be used in war?


Well, an army of a million needed to watch over his nation wouldn't be able to spare it's entire bulk to fight wars. It would have to leave many thousands behind to keep the homeland safe.


How about a compromise? Lets say 1 million total, but only 100-200,000 can leave Chinese empire boundaries?
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Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.31
http://www.politicaltest.net/test/result/400019/

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Postby Valentir » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:58 pm

Christian New Andalusia wrote:Editied APP:

NS Nation: Providence and Port Hope (Christian New Andalusia is a puppet)
RP Nation: Sweden
Government Type: Theocracy
Religion: Christianity
Currency: Mark
Population: 2 million
Leader: Bly Pastor Erik Gustav
Army Size: (Cannot go over 5% during peace) 40,000

Sweden was a monarchy, change that

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Elerian
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Postby Elerian » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:00 pm

Dires wrote:
Pavlostani wrote:
Well, an army of a million needed to watch over his nation wouldn't be able to spare it's entire bulk to fight wars. It would have to leave many thousands behind to keep the homeland safe.


How about a compromise? Lets say 1 million total, but only 100-200,000 can leave Chinese empire boundaries?

Thats still a ton. Although you should have quite a few you probably shouldn't have any more than about 250-300,000 men.

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Valentir
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Postby Valentir » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:01 pm

Pavlostani wrote:
Valentir wrote:Still, 1,000,000 would allow you to steam roller everything touching you. 170,000? With 500,000 Town watch or militia unable to be used in war?


Well, an army of a million needed to watch over his nation wouldn't be able to spare it's entire bulk to fight wars. It would have to leave many thousands behind to keep the homeland safe.

True but still. I do not want to risk it. I guess. Ok, chinese player.
You can have 1,000,000 soldiers, but you cannot send more than 120,000 into war. Also for everybody we will have random events. So the more you expand and have a larger army the more penalties. Now you will not be spammed but everyone will have good and bad events according to their IC posts. Also 3 more nations and I will make IC

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Kengburg
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Postby Kengburg » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:05 pm

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My Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: 1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.21
Proud Allied State of the Union of Human Supremacists, Ave Humanitas!

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Valentir
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Postby Valentir » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:06 pm

Kengburg wrote:NS Nation: Kengburg
RP Nation: The Dutch Republic
Government Type: Republic
Religion: Catholicism (for now)
Currency: Dutch Gilder, Gold/Silver Coins
Population: 1,886,000
Leader: States-General
Army Size: 2.5% or 47,150

Accepted and Welcome Good Sir or Ma'am

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Mauretania Tingitana (Ancient)
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Postby Mauretania Tingitana (Ancient) » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:06 pm

Is it o.k. to post an application for a Native American faction?

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Valentir
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Postby Valentir » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:07 pm

Mauretania Tingitana wrote:Is it o.k. to post an application for a Native American faction?

No, I would like you to be on either Africa, Europe, or Asia.

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Mauretania Tingitana (Ancient)
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Postby Mauretania Tingitana (Ancient) » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:09 pm

Valentir wrote:
Mauretania Tingitana wrote:Is it o.k. to post an application for a Native American faction?

No, I would like you to be on either Africa, Europe, or Asia.

Alright. But did C.C. discover America in this R.P.? Surely Spain has colonies already and everyone is rushing to get a piece of the New World.

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Liecthenbourg
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:09 pm

The Dutch arent on the map...its Burgundy.
(Btw this is a target of mine)
Impeach Ernest Jacquinot Legalise Shooting Communists The Gold Standard Needs To Be Abolished Duclerque 1919
Grand-Master of the Kyluminati


The Region of Kylaris
I'm just a simple Kylarite, trying to make my way on NS.

The Gaullican Republic,
I thank God for Three Things:
Kylaris, the death of Esquarium, and Prem <3

The Transtsabaran Federation and The Chistovodian Workers' State

To understand European history watch these: Cultural erosion, German and Italian history, a brief history of Germany.

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Pavlostani
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Postby Pavlostani » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:10 pm

Mauretania Tingitana wrote:
Valentir wrote:No, I would like you to be on either Africa, Europe, or Asia.

Alright. But did C.C. discover America in this R.P.?


By this, you mean America discovered white people, right? :eyebrow:
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Elerian
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Postby Elerian » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:11 pm

How many men will Lithuania have? I would like you people to decide to be fair as they are in a union with me.
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Dires
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Postby Dires » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:12 pm

NS Nation: Dires
RP Nation: The Chinese Empire (Ming Dynasty)
Government Type: Absolute Monarchy
Religion: Confucianism, Buddhism, Daoism
Currency: Silver Taels
Population: 125 million
Leader: The Zhengde Emperor
Army Size: Total: 1,000,000 (0.8%).
External Combat Limited to 120,000 (0.096%). Infantry/Artillery: 65%, Navy: 20%, Calvary: 10%. Palace Guard Elite: 5%.
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Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.31
http://www.politicaltest.net/test/result/400019/

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Valentir
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Postby Valentir » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:12 pm

Pavlostani wrote:
Mauretania Tingitana wrote:Alright. But did C.C. discover America in this R.P.?


By this, you mean America discovered white people, right? :eyebrow:

^This^ And yes MT, if you don't mind me calling you that. America is discovered and Spain has a few colonies. But until 1505 no one can travel there and dutch dude switch app to Burgundy. and Dires you are accepted.

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Mauretania Tingitana (Ancient)
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Postby Mauretania Tingitana (Ancient) » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:13 pm

Valentir wrote:
Pavlostani wrote:
By this, you mean America discovered white people, right? :eyebrow:

^This^ And yes MT, if you don't mind me calling you that. America is discovered and Spain has a few colonies. But until 1505 no one can travel there and dutch dude switch app to Burgundy. and Dires you are accepted.

Ah, o.k. Then who will R.P. the Indians? (NATIVE AMERICANS.)

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Valentir
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Postby Valentir » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:14 pm

Mauretania Tingitana wrote:
Valentir wrote:^This^ And yes MT, if you don't mind me calling you that. America is discovered and Spain has a few colonies. But until 1505 no one can travel there and dutch dude switch app to Burgundy. and Dires you are accepted.

Ah, o.k. Then who will R.P. the Indians? (NATIVE AMERICANS.)

No one. They will all be NPC for very obvious reasons.

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