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Postby United Great Britian » Sun May 04, 2014 2:43 am

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United Great Britian wrote:Ok. Here is more in-depth:
I am thinking about doing a character based RP in NYC. It would be set in the future in the year 2158. It would involve crime and the stock exchange. It would also involve everything people love in NYC. It would also involve futuristic technology. Maybe some wars between countries. Any ideas?

Are you talking about a Payday: The Heist RP?

Because that's what I'm thinking.

Just thought you should know.

No not really
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Postby United Great Britian » Sun May 04, 2014 2:44 am

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United Great Britian wrote:Ok. Here is more in-depth:
I am thinking about doing a character based RP in NYC. It would be set in the future in the year 2158. It would involve crime and the stock exchange. It would also involve everything people love in NYC. It would also involve futuristic technology. Maybe some wars between countries. Any ideas?

Those NYC things people love might have changed quite a bit in 150 years. What sort of crime are you referring to, and would the characters be committing the crimes or trying to prevent them?

Terrorism, robberies, and shootings. There would be some who commit them and others who prevent them.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Sun May 04, 2014 3:55 am

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:What happen.


OOC in the IC, people wanting their nations to have over a billion inhabittants, people ignoring how real diplomacy works and declaring war right off the bat.

Yes, it is quite a habit. I have experiences in II, but I stop going there after the disastrous NS World War 2 RP in II, in which arguments between Verbluffen III and Osterreich turned into a fight fest for all the players.
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Postby Seljuq Kyiv » Sun May 04, 2014 4:13 am

I am looking at starting, or at least Co-OPing, a light AWRP (POD no earlier than 1848) focused more on the sharp and dramatic turns of international relations and petty maneuvering of diplomacy and slick dealings and concessions rather than the dull trudging along of lightning colonial landgrabs that make no mention of dysentery, malaria, yellow fever, pneumonia, etc. that make up the bulk of AWRPs. Don't get me wrong, I'm very well looking forward to a continental war, and realistic colonial landgrabs drove the politics of the day forward. Might very well be set sometime between 1885-1887 or 1916-1919, and all that jazz (punintended).

Scrounging for interest in what has become an overused time period.

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Postby Alleniana » Sun May 04, 2014 4:19 am

Seljuq Kyiv wrote:I am looking at starting, or at least Co-OPing, a light AWRP (POD no earlier than 1848) focused more on the sharp and dramatic turns of international relations and petty maneuvering of diplomacy and slick dealings and concessions rather than the dull trudging along of lightning colonial landgrabs that make no mention of dysentery, malaria, yellow fever, pneumonia, etc. that make up the bulk of AWRPs. Don't get me wrong, I'm very well looking forward to a continental war, and realistic colonial landgrabs drove the politics of the day forward. Might very well be set sometime between 1885-1887 or 1916-1919, and all that jazz (punintended).

Scrounging for interest in what has become an overused time period.

Perhaps wait some time. There's been a lot recently, and it might be good for the glut to sink down before trying.

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Postby Seljuq Kyiv » Sun May 04, 2014 4:21 am

Alleniana wrote:
Seljuq Kyiv wrote:I am looking at starting, or at least Co-OPing, a light AWRP (POD no earlier than 1848) focused more on the sharp and dramatic turns of international relations and petty maneuvering of diplomacy and slick dealings and concessions rather than the dull trudging along of lightning colonial landgrabs that make no mention of dysentery, malaria, yellow fever, pneumonia, etc. that make up the bulk of AWRPs. Don't get me wrong, I'm very well looking forward to a continental war, and realistic colonial landgrabs drove the politics of the day forward. Might very well be set sometime between 1885-1887 or 1916-1919, and all that jazz (punintended).

Scrounging for interest in what has become an overused time period.

Perhaps wait some time. There's been a lot recently, and it might be good for the glut to sink down before trying.


I'm not starting it for a while. I remain busy with RL, and that should continue for the next few weeks. I just need to gauge the interest of the community, and work out the details.

But seriously, an 1851 Anderssen vs Kieseritzky POD would be kickass.

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Postby Alleniana » Sun May 04, 2014 4:22 am

Seljuq Kyiv wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Perhaps wait some time. There's been a lot recently, and it might be good for the glut to sink down before trying.


I'm not starting it for a while. I remain busy with RL, and that should continue for the next few weeks. I just need to gauge the interest of the community, and work out the details.

But seriously, an 1851 Anderssen vs Kieseritzky POD would be kickass.

What about France wins Franco-Prussian War POD? Landslide annihilates Prussian army or something, and onward France marches.

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Postby Garwall » Sun May 04, 2014 7:24 am

Seljuq Kyiv wrote:I am looking at starting, or at least Co-OPing, a light AWRP (POD no earlier than 1848) focused more on the sharp and dramatic turns of international relations and petty maneuvering of diplomacy and slick dealings and concessions rather than the dull trudging along of lightning colonial landgrabs that make no mention of dysentery, malaria, yellow fever, pneumonia, etc. that make up the bulk of AWRPs. Don't get me wrong, I'm very well looking forward to a continental war, and realistic colonial landgrabs drove the politics of the day forward. Might very well be set sometime between 1885-1887 or 1916-1919, and all that jazz (punintended).

Scrounging for interest in what has become an overused time period.


I have the intentions of starting an AWRP based off of the core concepts of Diplomacy, where the primary focus is on the principle of realpolitik, where players negotiate both public and secret treaties with one another to gain supremacy over their fellow powers. The main goal would be to see a lot of backstabbing, backroom deals and partitions of smaller powers into spheres of influence, etcetera to test just how players change the core dynamics of international diplomacy that operates purely and solely on the rules of realpolitik.

However, I was going for a start date in the 1900's, early (possibly Great War period?) with the POD based in the Napoleonic Wars, where Napoleon becomes a statesman and pioneer of realpolitik rather than the kickass general he was IOTL. The result; the French Revolution peters out, and becomes a minor event in history, but the dynamics of international diplomacy is changed entirely.
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Postby United Great Britian » Sun May 04, 2014 7:25 am

United Great Britian wrote:
Constaniana wrote:Those NYC things people love might have changed quite a bit in 150 years. What sort of crime are you referring to, and would the characters be committing the crimes or trying to prevent them?

Terrorism, robberies, and shootings. There would be some who commit them and others who prevent them.

Do you think this could work?
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Postby Agritum » Sun May 04, 2014 7:44 am

I'm still baffled by the fact that the frontpage of P2TM is full of RPers I genuinely never witnessed here, and that there's plenty of nice RPing ideas that I have never seen being discussed or advertised here.

I fear this thread is becoming a clique of its own.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun May 04, 2014 7:46 am

Agritum wrote:I'm still baffled by the fact that the frontpage of P2TM is full of RPers I genuinely never witnessed here, and that there's plenty of nice RPing ideas that I have never seen being discussed or advertised here.

I fear this thread is becoming a clique of its own.


C'est la vie.
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Postby Agritum » Sun May 04, 2014 7:47 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Agritum wrote:I'm still baffled by the fact that the frontpage of P2TM is full of RPers I genuinely never witnessed here, and that there's plenty of nice RPing ideas that I have never seen being discussed or advertised here.

I fear this thread is becoming a clique of its own.


C'est la vie.

I believe we can do much more outreach if we truly want.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun May 04, 2014 7:48 am

Agritum wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
C'est la vie.

I believe we can do much more outreach if we truly want.

But why would we? For the sake of the forum?

Maybe.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun May 04, 2014 7:49 am

Agritum wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
C'est la vie.

I believe we can do much more outreach if we truly want.


I TG those Rpers I see struggling with their OPs or fleshing out their concepts, but there isn't much we can do to force people to use this thread. Just like in II, 98% of all Rping ideas never touch the RP Think-Tank.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Sun May 04, 2014 7:50 am

Agritum wrote:I'm still baffled by the fact that the frontpage of P2TM is full of RPers I genuinely never witnessed here, and that there's plenty of nice RPing ideas that I have never seen being discussed or advertised here.

I fear this thread is becoming a clique of its own.


Can't more agree with this. I mean, they are probably afraid of you guys.
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Postby Agritum » Sun May 04, 2014 7:50 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Agritum wrote:I believe we can do much more outreach if we truly want.

But why would we? For the sake of the forum?

Maybe.

Because we're admittedly missing out plenty of good RPers and good ideas?

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Agritum wrote:I believe we can do much more outreach if we truly want.


I TG those Rpers I see struggling with their OPs or fleshing out their concepts, but there isn't much we can do to force people to use this thread. Just like in II, 98% of all Rping ideas never touch the RP Think-Tank.

I'm still worried by the fact that we're strangers in our own subforum.

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Postby Altito Asmoro » Sun May 04, 2014 7:51 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Agritum wrote:I believe we can do much more outreach if we truly want.


I TG those Rpers I see struggling with their OPs or fleshing out their concepts, but there isn't much we can do to force people to use this thread. Just like in II, 98% of all Rping ideas never touch the RP Think-Tank.


Not that I use RP think-tank commonly...
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Postby United Great Britian » Sun May 04, 2014 7:51 am

United Great Britian wrote:
United Great Britian wrote:Terrorism, robberies, and shootings. There would be some who commit them and others who prevent them.

Do you think this could work?

I am assuming yes.
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Postby Constaniana » Sun May 04, 2014 7:54 am

United Great Britian wrote:
United Great Britian wrote:Terrorism, robberies, and shootings. There would be some who commit them and others who prevent them.

Do you think this could work?

Don't see why it wouldn't. Would the terrorist acts and robberies all be linked togetheras one grand plot, or are they just isolated incidents?
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Postby Constaniana » Sun May 04, 2014 7:55 am

Agritum wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:But why would we? For the sake of the forum?

Maybe.

Because we're admittedly missing out plenty of good RPers and good ideas?

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
I TG those Rpers I see struggling with their OPs or fleshing out their concepts, but there isn't much we can do to force people to use this thread. Just like in II, 98% of all Rping ideas never touch the RP Think-Tank.

I'm still worried by the fact that we're strangers in our own subforum.

On the one hand, P2TM is big enough that we'll probably never know most of the people in it. But yes, it's quite troubling how isolated we seem to be.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun May 04, 2014 7:57 am

Agritum wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:But why would we? For the sake of the forum?

Maybe.

Because we're admittedly missing out plenty of good RPers and good ideas?

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
I TG those Rpers I see struggling with their OPs or fleshing out their concepts, but there isn't much we can do to force people to use this thread. Just like in II, 98% of all Rping ideas never touch the RP Think-Tank.

I'm still worried by the fact that we're strangers in our own subforum.

Well we are pretty strange, probably stranger than a lot of people.
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Postby United Great Britian » Sun May 04, 2014 7:58 am

Constaniana wrote:
United Great Britian wrote:Do you think this could work?

Don't see why it wouldn't. Would the terrorist acts and robberies all be linked togetheras one grand plot, or are they just isolated incidents?

Some of both. Continue the discussion here: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=294789.
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Postby Garwall » Sun May 04, 2014 8:00 am

United Great Britian wrote:
United Great Britian wrote:Terrorism, robberies, and shootings. There would be some who commit them and others who prevent them.

Do you think this could work?


I don't see why not--classic Cops n' Robbers, no? A futuristic setting sounds pretty cool too; but I'm not as familiar with the character RP playerbase, so I couldn't say what the interest level might be. But I like the concept.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun May 04, 2014 8:00 am

United Great Britian wrote:
Constaniana wrote:Don't see why it wouldn't. Would the terrorist acts and robberies all be linked togetheras one grand plot, or are they just isolated incidents?

Some of both. Continue the discussion here: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=294789.

You know, I don't think I've ever seen a heist RP in the vein of The Italian Job (AKA The most British movie ever). You know, discussing absurd but plausible schemes, finding a good job, awesome car chase, that kind of stuff. Maybe that would be a good idea.

I'll check back in on that next week, may or may not forget it.
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Postby The White Horde » Sun May 04, 2014 8:01 am

Garwall wrote:
Seljuq Kyiv wrote:I am looking at starting, or at least Co-OPing, a light AWRP (POD no earlier than 1848) focused more on the sharp and dramatic turns of international relations and petty maneuvering of diplomacy and slick dealings and concessions rather than the dull trudging along of lightning colonial landgrabs that make no mention of dysentery, malaria, yellow fever, pneumonia, etc. that make up the bulk of AWRPs. Don't get me wrong, I'm very well looking forward to a continental war, and realistic colonial landgrabs drove the politics of the day forward. Might very well be set sometime between 1885-1887 or 1916-1919, and all that jazz (punintended).

Scrounging for interest in what has become an overused time period.


I have the intentions of starting an AWRP based off of the core concepts of Diplomacy, where the primary focus is on the principle of realpolitik, where players negotiate both public and secret treaties with one another to gain supremacy over their fellow powers. The main goal would be to see a lot of backstabbing, backroom deals and partitions of smaller powers into spheres of influence, etcetera to test just how players change the core dynamics of international diplomacy that operates purely and solely on the rules of realpolitik.

However, I was going for a start date in the 1900's, early (possibly Great War period?) with the POD based in the Napoleonic Wars, where Napoleon becomes a statesman and pioneer of realpolitik rather than the kickass general he was IOTL. The result; the French Revolution peters out, and becomes a minor event in history, but the dynamics of international diplomacy is changed entirely.


Many good. This is what I had in mind, and I'm glad there are people in the community who share this dream.

In regards to a start date, I'm fairly flexible as long as it is after 1883 and before 1921. May I suggest a POD between 1754 and 1757, wherein it is France, not Britain, that secures the Indian Subcontinent? As a result, a series of butterflies allows Napoleone di Buonaparte to become the Viceroy of India, among other things?

Or, rather than Napoleon, it is Talleyrand that pushes for realpolitik, which would be closer to the OTL?
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