Game of Thrones: Win or Die [Sign-up, OOC]

[San Monteriano]

I'm just surprised the Starks arrived at Riverrun before a Lannister host could march through the Riverlands. Gives me a lot more comfort in security.

OOC: Marrying off a daughter, Alys, a maiden of ten and four, if anyone's interested.

is she pretty?

She is fair in skin and kind in nature, a fitting wife and companion. I've used the in-series Roslin for now (as a character picture on my application) but might replace that if I find a more suitable one; I was going to use the HBO Sansa Stark, but I thought that'd be a bit excessive.

Is cousin marriage normal?

I believe they actually are.

[First Valerian Empire]

is she pretty?

She is fair in skin and kind in nature, a fitting wife and companion. I've used the in-series Roslin for now (as a character picture on my application) but might replace that if I find a more suitable one; I was going to use the HBO Sansa Stark, but I thought that'd be a bit excessive.

Is cousin marriage normal?

I believe they actually are.

I'm very interested... He needs queen.

[Ulster]

W-WHAT? NO DESIRE FOR A STARK QUEEN, EH?

Oh that's it.

Da KINGINDANORF!

Oops, had a Greatjon moment there.

[San Monteriano]

W-WHAT? NO DESIRE FOR A STARK QUEEN, EH?

Oh that's it.

Da KINGINDANORF!

Oops, had a Greatjon moment there.

There sits the only king I mean to bend my knee to.

THE KING IN THE NORTH!

[Evraim]

W-WHAT? NO DESIRE FOR A STARK QUEEN, EH?

Oh that's it.

Da KINGINDANORF!

Oops, had a Greatjon moment there.

There sits the only king I mean to bend my knee to.

THE KING IN THE NORTH!

*drums*

And, who are you, the proud lord said,
That I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat,
That's all the truth I know.

In a coat of gold or a coat of red,
A lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord,
As long and sharp as yours.

And, so he spoke...
And, so he spoke...
That Lord of Castamere.

But, now the rains weep o'er his halls,
With no one there to hear.
Yes, now the rains weep o'er his halls,
And not a soul to hear.

[San Monteriano]

And, who are you, the proud lord said,
That I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat,
That's all the truth I know.

In a coat of gold or a coat of red,
A lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord,
As long and sharp as yours.

And, so he spoke...
And, so he spoke...
That Lord of Castamere.

But, now the rains weep o'er his halls,
With no one left to hear.
Yes, now the rains weep o'er his halls,
And not a soul to hear.

It is such a good song. Might support Tywin Lannister solely because of it

I expected a Lannister host to sweep through the Riverlands, but none has materialised. The Riverlands might not get incinerated in this RP!

[Ulster]

Might be the Reach that gets set aflame. Ole Tywin going to unleash Clegane raiders down the Mander?

[United Socialist Republics of Lupina]

[*drums*]

And, who are you, the proud lord said,
That I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat,
That's all the truth I know.

In a coat of gold or a coat of red,
A lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord,
As long and sharp as yours.

And, so he spoke...
And, so he spoke...
That Lord of Castamere.

But, now the rains weep o'er his halls,
With no one there to hear.
Yes, now the rains weep o'er his halls,
And not a soul to hear.

"Surely he can't sing that bad?"

My god that is such a good song, least the Lannisters have some wicked songs to their house...though, I presume that Bartholomew would take the place of Tywin in the Rains of Castamere, which would certainly have the same impact upon Westeros in RP as it did in the series.

[Evraim]

It is such a good song. Might support Tywin Lannister solely because of it

That's thing one thing keeping me in favor of Tywin at the moment. The Lannisters have better music. Of course, the Brotherhood Without Banners does even better, mostly due to Tom being rather gifted with his seven strings. So, if all else fails, I'll protect the small folk.

My feather bed is deep and soft,
And there I'll lay you down,
I'll dress you all in yellow silk,
And on your head a crown.

For you shall be my lady love,
And I shall be your lord.
I'll always keep you warm and safe,
And guard you with my sword.

And how she smiled and how she laughed,
The maiden of the tree.
She spun away and said to him,
No feather bed for me.

I'll wear a gown of golden leaves,
And bind my hair with grass,
But you can be my forest love,
And me your forest lass.

I expected a Lannister host to sweep through the Riverlands, but none has materialised. The Riverlands might not get incinerated in this RP!

Impossible. House Velaryon now has no choice, but to launch an invasion against the Riverlands. This, naturally, will succeed, due to their opponents being Tullys. Plot convenience demands that this occur.

[First Valerian Empire]

Why yes Bart replaces Tywin in song canon.

[Evraim]

Why yes Bart replaces Tywin in song canon.

Poor House Reyne. I considered making an application for them, either as loyal bannermen or exiles eager to take revenge.

[United Socialist Republics of Lupina]

How will Tywin reach Oldtown in time to "trap" Quentyn, when the dornishman has already left Oldtown for Riverrun? As far as realism is concerned, Tywin wouldn't know of this for at least a day or two and as such Quentyn would narrowly escape the Lion's claws.

Also, a visit to Dragonstone by the members of House Velaryon would be nice to give the Master of Ships a little more to do than delay the Lion and stare out across the sea, dreaming of the last Targaryen's, and mulling over whom he would back.

[Evraim]

How will Tywin reach Oldtown in time to "trap" Quentyn, when the dornishman has already left Oldtown for Riverrun? As far as realism is concerned, Tywin wouldn't know of this for at least a day or two and as such Quentyn would narrowly escape the Lion's claws.

This, essentially. I think it unlikely that word of such a visit would travel so quickly, if at all, especially when one considers the lack of a Master/Mistress of Whisperers. I think a more sound strategy would be to summon the scions of House Tyrell and House Redwyne to await the King's pleasure. Then, arrange a marriage. Perhaps, mentioning the marriage part would entice them to meet. After all, a rose-bedecked girl never sat atop a throne. They were too lowborn.

Also, a visit to Dragonstone by the members of House Velaryon would be nice to give the Master of Ships a little more to do than delay the Lion and stare out across the sea, dreaming of the last Targaryen's, and mulling over whom he would back.

I intend to visit. I've sent a message from Ser Manfred, which Lady Danae read, to Lord Aegor, explaining the situation. In case you haven't noticed, I prefer to write from the perspective of a few central characters. Al, Monty, Danae, and Daemon. I plan to introduce perhaps one more point-of-view character. I'm thinking Danae and Daemon will be the principal actors on Dragonstone. I imagine Daemon in particular would be eager to meet Aegor, henceforth known as the King on Dragonstone.

[United Socialist Republics of Lupina]

How will Tywin reach Oldtown in time to "trap" Quentyn, when the dornishman has already left Oldtown for Riverrun? As far as realism is concerned, Tywin wouldn't know of this for at least a day or two and as such Quentyn would narrowly escape the Lion's claws.

This, essentially. I think it unlikely that word of such a visit would travel so quickly, if at all, especially when one considers the lack of a Master/Mistress of Whisperers. I think a more sound strategy would be to summon the scions of House Tyrell and House Redwyne to await the King's pleasure. Then, arrange a marriage. Perhaps, mentioning the marriage part would entice them to meet. After all, a rose-bedecked girl never sat atop a throne. They were too lowborn.

Also, a visit to Dragonstone by the members of House Velaryon would be nice to give the Master of Ships a little more to do than delay the Lion and stare out across the sea, dreaming of the last Targaryen's, and mulling over whom he would back.

I'm a little confused...my observation was that Tywin wouldn't be able to catch Quentyn, are you proposing a red wedding or a meeting of scions?

I intend to visit. I've sent a message from Ser Manfred, which Lady Danae read, to Lord Aegor, explaining the situation. In case you haven't noticed, I prefer to write from the perspective of a few central characters. Al, Monty, Danae, and Daemon. I plan to introduce perhaps one more point-of-view character. I'm thinking Danae and Daemon will be the principal actors on Dragonstone. I imagine Daemon in particular would be eager to meet Aegor, henceforth known as the King on Dragonstone.

The Dragon on Dragonstone actually Indeed, I await their arrival.

[Evraim]

I'm a little confused...my observation was that Tywin wouldn't be able to catch Quentyn, are you proposing a red wedding or a meeting of scions?

No. I was saying that, while Tywin couldn't hope to catch Quentyn, he might arrange a marriage to one of House Tyrell's daughters, to bolster his claim to the throne. In effect, the objective would be to steal away Quentyn's current supporters.

The Dragon on Dragonstone actually Indeed, I await their arrival.

He doesn't want to be king?

[United Socialist Republics of Lupina]

The Dragon on Dragonstone actually Indeed, I await their arrival.

He doesn't want to be king?

He is a bastard, therefore without claim to the throne he cannot hope to be made King; unless of course the Realm as a whole wishes for a Dragon instead of a Lion or a Sun, then perhaps he might be swayed into taking the crown for himself.

[Evraim]

He is a bastard, therefore without claim to the throne he cannot hope to be made King; unless of course the Realm as a whole wishes for a Dragon instead of a Lion or a Sun, then perhaps he might be swayed into taking the crown for himself.

That was my point. I mentioned in my last two in-character posts that the banners sworn to Dragonstone mislike the Lannisters and Martells, at least compared to the Targaryens. They view Quentyn as something of a foreigner, and Tywin as a puppet to his more politically astute father, whom they resent. In the coming posts, this should become more clear.

[Of the Quendi]

Anyways, is the Greyjoy guy still with us?

No. House Greyjoy is currently vacant and we are looking for a new player.

Also, how accurate would you say this political map is?

Very accurate. I use that one.

Might be the Reach that gets set aflame. Ole Tywin going to unleash Clegane raiders down the Mander?

He can try.

[Sealord Laerio Grynsell]

I vote Kingindanorfth. North + Riverlands would make stuff more interesting.


And give me someone to support in secret.

Very accurate. I use that one.

I use it to plan my Essos campaigns .

[Sealord Laerio Grynsell]

Oh, Lupina, it might be best if I don't respond to your envoy 'till Valerian writes his response. Then I can decide what to do with my sudden enemy in one go .

[Ulster]

Might be the Reach that gets set aflame. Ole Tywin going to unleash Clegane raiders down the Mander?

He can try.

If he's already at Old Oak and the Reach is only now calling its banners, could prove interesting.
Only a fortnight's march from Highgarden at all. If he can force the Mander.

[Sealord Laerio Grynsell]

He can try.

If he's already at Old Oak and the Reach is only now calling its banners, could prove interesting.
Only a fortnight's march from Highgarden at all. If he can force the Mander.

Timburrr???

[Of the Quendi]

If he's already at Old Oak and the Reach is only now calling its banners, could prove interesting.
Only a fortnight's march from Highgarden at all. If he can force the Mander.

House Redwyne is fully mobilized and can launch instant counterattacks against coastal locations in the Westerlands. With no Lannister forces marching on Goldengrove it too can raid the Westerlands and crossing the Mander will not be easy (does anyone know how broad it is and if there are any crossings on it?)

[Eaglleia]

If he's already at Old Oak and the Reach is only now calling its banners, could prove interesting.
Only a fortnight's march from Highgarden at all. If he can force the Mander.

House Redwyne is fully mobilized and can launch instant counterattacks against coastal locations in the Westerlands. With no Lannister forces marching on Goldengrove it too can raid the Westerlands and crossing the Mander will not be easy (does anyone know how broad it is and if there are any crossings on it?)

Most of the towns that lie on the Mander have multiple crossings there. It's large and wide, but very slow.

[Ulster]

If he's already at Old Oak and the Reach is only now calling its banners, could prove interesting.
Only a fortnight's march from Highgarden at all. If he can force the Mander.

House Redwyne is fully mobilized and can launch instant counterattacks against coastal locations in the Westerlands. With no Lannister forces marching on Goldengrove it too can raid the Westerlands and crossing the Mander will not be easy (does anyone know how broad it is and if there are any crossings on it?)

Still, naval raids and Rowan harassing Serrett may not necessarily stop Tywin, if Highgarden is what he's after. I'd imagine the Mander has a great many bridges and ideal crossings (it is described as clear, calm and slow near Highgarden). Destroying important ones could slow an invasion, but would also cripple a swift counterattack and leave the lands north of the Mander at the hands of a Lion for some time.
Perhaps we'll see a Stirling Bridge type action?

Edit: Quendi, I brainstormed this really quick for a bannermen mustering concept like I did with my own. Sort of to help put in perspective numbers, but hardly authoritative nor would I expect you to adopt it. Just how I'd view it.

Hightower - 20,000 (with Beesbury, Bulwer, Costayne, Cuy, and Mullendore)
Tyrell - 10,000
18 main houses - 36,000 (roughly two thousand each)
Shield houses - 4,000
Redwyne - naval power
39 knightly and other houses - 27,000 (could be sworn/added to main houses)
other (hedge knights, odd sellsword, freeriders) - 3,000
Note: These would be 100% figures. 80% would be the most optimum troops, with the last 20% being the "sweepings" of the Reach.