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The NSG Senate
The Worst State of a Republic

〉 An Introduction
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Welcome to the NSG Senate. This is democracy at its worst.

In brief, we are a character-driven and dynamic government simulation roleplay where you will be a politician in the fictional Southeast Asian island nation of Elizia, where your actions and the actions of your fellow senators will shape the present and the future of the country, for the better or the worse. Will you choose to be a good and trustworthy representative or will you rise to power through backhanded maneuvers and shady deals? Will you be a crossbencher? A minister? Even a general?

Founded by Denecaep and maintained by chief admin (OP) Maklohi Vai and co-admins (co-OPs) Britanno 2, Zurkerx, Merizoc, and Arkolon. Our roleplay has existed in several iterations for well over a year, and we are the non-NS political RP.

Where do I get started? 〈
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First off, there's the Senate Lobby, which is our OOC thread where we discuss about everything related to the roleplay, and sometimes even things that aren't. When needed, it also doubles as a thread where we can roleplay character interactions and other events that are RPed to occur in the legislative building's lobby. Then, there's the Coffee Shop and the thread you are currently in, is where we propose bills for peer scrutiny and have lively debates on them. The third and arguably most important thread is the Senate Chamber, where we debate bills right before they come to a vote, and cast our ballots to decide whether a bill passes or fails. And last but not least, Daily Life in Dagmar, where all roleplay that does not happen in the legislative building goes, whether it be a bus ride, a television broadcast or a neo-fascist terrorist attack.


Link Repository 〈
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Senate Lobby
A discussion thread sometimes used for meeting RPs.
Mostly OOC. Sometimes IC.

Senate Coffee Shop « You are here.
Propose bills and debate others' here.
IC Thread, but Lenient on OOC Chat.

Senate Chamber
Where bills are submitted and voted upon.
Strictly In-Character

National Database
Tell us about yourself, your district, your pet goat, etc.
Strictly In-Character

Senate Bill Repository
The Senate's newspaper of record. All passed laws go here.
Do Not Post.

Daily Life in Elizia
Where all non-political roleplay and news go.
Strictly In-Character
〉 Who's Who?
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OOC Administration
OP ("Head Admin") - Maklohi Vai
Co-OPs ("Co-Admins") - Britanno 2, Zurkerx, Merizoc, Arkolon





















Interested? Apply here to join.
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Yay!
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Postby Collatis » Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:37 pm

Cheese Sale and Accessibility Act

Author- Kevin Katdare (LD)
Sponsors-

This act involves the accessibility of cheese to people in poverty or financial strain, to make cheese of all kinds as equally accessible to the upper class, as it is to the lower and middle class. This way, people of all kinds can have cheese as our forefathers intended it. This bill as well as pertaining to the accessibility of cheese, involves the regulation of the sale of cheese and the production of cheese.



Definitions:
• cheese- the curd of milk separated from the whey and prepared in many ways as a food
• edict- a decree issued by a sovereign or other authority
Purpose:
• To make cheese accessible to all.
• To increase morale of citizens (with cheese related activities.)
• To ensure that all people whether they are upper, middle, or lower class can have the same cheese related opportunities.
• To increase cheese market and boost economy.
• To put safety regulations on what can be put in cheese before resale based on approved substances from a government based cheese safety board.
§ 1 – Cheese Accessibility
• No individual, organization, corporation, etc. may deny a citizen the right to obtain or participate in, cheese, cheese related activities or events, producing cheese, etc.
• If a citizen of Elizia is denied the right to cheese, or a cheese related product, activity, or the production of cheese, the individual, organization, or corporation responsible will be punished fiscally to promote equality in this country, and those surrounding us.
• If a citizen of Elizia is denied entry into, or participation in, or application to, a play, movie, or any other public occurrence, for their usage or consumption of cheese, the individual, organization, or corporation responsible will be punished fiscally.
• If a citizen is denied a job opportunity, or interview, for his or her consumption, or usage of cheese, and it can be proven to be because of their usage or consumption of cheese, even if that citizen is more qualified, etc. a fiscal punishment will be set into place on the individual, organization, or corporation responsible.
§ 2 – Exceptions
• Only in the case that a gathering or activity that requires a certain monetary amount to enter that has cheese within it and a citizen is denied entry for not having the proper funds, will no monetary penalty be put into place.
§ 3 – Regulation on the Sale of Cheese
• If cheese is sold without passing safety regulations, which state that no chemical or other substance that has been proven to be harmful, or not approved at all by the C.H.E.E.S.E. can be in the cheese that is being sold for later, or immediate consumption.
• If cheese that was sold to an individual or group causes harm to the consumer(s) of that cheese, then that vendor, salesman, or store will receive a fiscal punishment.
§ 4 – Regulation on the Production of Cheese
• If cheese is produced with harmful chemicals or other harmful substances, or substances that have not been approved by C.H.E.E.S.E. it cannot be sold to a vendor, salesman, or store, for resale and consumption.
• If cheese that was sold to a store, salesman, or vendor, causes harm to the consumer(s) of that cheese, then whoever may have produced that cheese will receive a fiscal punishment.
§ 5 – C.H.E.E.S.E.
• A board to oversee that this act is followed shall be formed
• It shall be known as the Cheese Health Entitlement Enterprise and Safety Edict, or C.H.E.E.S.E.
• It shall be consisted of three members, who are to be appointed by the Minister of Health
• The president may veto any appointment to the board
• A member of the board may be removed at any time by the President or Minister of Health
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But will a spoon full of sugar help the medicine go down?
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Ipoh White, Anyone?
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Gingerbread latte for me. 8)
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Postby Not a Bang but a Whimper » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:45 pm

WHALE Y'OPEN THE GAWDDAMNED CAWFEE SHOIP AND YA DOIN'T FOOKIN TELL ANYONE I'LL RECK YA MITE

Seeking sponsors, I suppose. Not sure where I'd submit it, exactly, but...


Constitutional Convention Act

Author: Ahmed Alef (Ind.)
Sponsors: Katijah binti Nadeem (LD) | Léon Dimitri Mourani (FED) | Raharjo Iskandar-Bambang (EF) | Jumaat Noh (EF) | Juwita bin Fajar (LD) | Michel Nugati (LD) | John Chiu (CIP) |
An act providing for definitions, calling for a constitutional convention, laying out the procedures for the convention, and establishing criteria for the adoption of a constitution.

Section 1: Definitions
Constitution - permanent legislation establishing a state and government of Elizia.
Convention - gathering of representatives to draft a constitution.
Day - continuous period of 36 hours, preceding and following itself.

Section 2: Constitutional Convention
A constitutional convention shall be convened at Kentang, with representatives chosen in the elections organized by the UN Special Rapporteur. The convention shall not be adjourned before ten days of deliberation.

Section 3: Procedures of the Convention
The general principles of parliamentary procedure shall be adhered to at the Convention. Any proposal may be submitted to the assembly for drafting and critique. With two seconds, any proposal may be submitted to the assembly for a vote. Submissions for votes shall be made with special emphasis to the motion, such that it cannot be accidentally ignored. The agenda of the Convention shall be as follows.
    a) On the first day the Convention shall elect a President and agree to or amend this agenda, then draft and submit proposals for a preamble.
    b) On the second day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals for a Bill of a Rights.
    c) On the third day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals regarding the foundations of Elizia and structure of its government.
    d) On the fourth day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals regarding devolution, federalism, constituencies, and provinces.
    e) On the fifth day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals regarding the judiciary.
    f) On the sixth day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals regarding the legislature.
    g) On the seventh day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals regarding the executive.
    h) On the eighth day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals regarding elections.
    i) On the ninth day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals for all other concerns.
    j) On the tenth day the Convention shall vote on all submitted proposals and adjourn.

Section 4: Adoption of Articles
No article shall be adopted to the Constitution without three fifths the support of the Convention. The Constitution shall be enacted when the legislature approves it, and if they do not approve it then the Convention shall convene again.
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Postby Filimons » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:10 pm

Whilst doubting the logic of this, the Federalist MP Dr Léon Dimitri Mourani endorses the bill.
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Postby Not a Bang but a Whimper » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:29 pm

Filimons wrote:Whilst doubting the logic of this, the Federalist MP Dr Léon Dimitri Mourani endorses the bill.

Added. Thank you.
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Postby Arkolon » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:56 pm

Sponsored to get the ball rolling. Raharjo Iskandar-Bambang (Elizia First).
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Is the schedule IC, or will it have to be followed OOCly as well? Because 24 hours is a really short amount of time to draft, receive feedback, make changes, etc., especially considering time zones.
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Postby Stormaen » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:23 pm

If it needs it, I'll sponsor. As Ark said, "to get the ball rolling".

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Postby Filimons » Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:47 am

Not a Bang but a Whimper wrote:Added. Thank you.

Dimitri, by the way, is a given name; Mourani is the surname.
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Postby Not a Bang but a Whimper » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:02 am

Sponsors revised.

Ainin wrote:Is the schedule IC, or will it have to be followed OOCly as well? Because 24 hours is a really short amount of time to draft, receive feedback, make changes, etc., especially considering time zones.


What would you think of having ten periods of 36 hours, instead? It is also worth noting that the convention can revise their agenda, and the only time requirement is that they can't adjourn before ten days; in effect, the list in Section 3 is a suggestion.
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Not a Bang but a Whimper wrote:
What would you think of having ten periods of 36 hours, instead? It is also worth noting that the convention can revise their agenda, and the only time requirement is that they can't adjourn before ten days; in effect, the list in Section 3 is a suggestion.


If this is the case, I (or rather Juwita bin Fajar) would be happy to sponsor this as well
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Sponsored by Michel Nugati (Liberal Democrat)
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Postby Ainin » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:21 pm

Not a Bang but a Whimper wrote:Sponsors revised.

Ainin wrote:Is the schedule IC, or will it have to be followed OOCly as well? Because 24 hours is a really short amount of time to draft, receive feedback, make changes, etc., especially considering time zones.


What would you think of having ten periods of 36 hours, instead? It is also worth noting that the convention can revise their agenda, and the only time requirement is that they can't adjourn before ten days; in effect, the list in Section 3 is a suggestion.

Ah, sounds good then. Count me as a sponsor - John Chiu, Chinese Interests Party.
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Postby Filimons » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:55 pm

Would it be possible to have a fast-track approval of the bill? There doesn’t appear to be any controversy or disagreement, and it’s not like we can begin without it.
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Postby Alistan » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:18 pm

Does anyone have a template to make a bill?
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Postby Filimons » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:32 pm

Alistan wrote:Does anyone have a template to make a bill?

I had a go at making one.
Code: Select all
[box][align=center][size=150][b]Lorem Ipsum Act 2016[/b][/size]
Author:
Sponsors:  [hr][/hr][hr][/hr][i]An Act of the Federal Parliament to make provision for vestibulum ante ipsum primis in faucibus orci luctus et ultrices posuere cubilia Curae.[/i]

[b]B[size=85]E IT THEREFORE ENACTED[/size][/b] by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:[hr][/hr][hr][/hr][/align]
[blocktext][align=justify]§1 – [b]Lorem:[/b]
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Donec viverra laoreet convallis. Ut gravida tempor elit, eu porttitor leo facilisis eget. Cras consectetur mauris ac ex commodo mollis. Donec non nulla eu dui pretium bibendum sed sed erat.
 
§2 – [b]Ipsum:[/b]
Cras sed faucibus mi, vitae mattis velit. Praesent sit amet interdum nisi, eu tempus mi. Sed sodales justo a sapien faucibus, vel consectetur erat luctus.[list=a][*]Nullam eu libero quam. Aenean facilisis quam turpis. [*]Pellentesque aliquam et sapien eu aliquam. Aliquam dolor purus, placerat ut felis vel, efficitur imperdiet nisi.[*]Maecenas semper sagittis est, sit amet ultricies magna dictum eu.[/list]
§3 – [b]Dolor[/b]:
[list=1][*]Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Suspendisse et sagittis ipsum.
[*]Vivamus ultricies commodo pulvinar. Nulla pharetra nunc sit amet lorem ultrices blandit. Etiam maximus diam vel ipsum elementum consequat.
[*]Aenean vitae ex nec lectus pretium eleifend hendrerit ac leo. Duis sapien nisl, iaculis et placerat ut, ornare a risus. Aliquam imperdiet ullamcorper tortor, a rhoncus felis suscipit vel.[/list][/align][/blocktext][/box]
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Postby Alistan » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:47 pm

Filimons wrote:
Alistan wrote:Does anyone have a template to make a bill?

I had a go at making one.
Code: Select all
[box][align=center][size=150][b]Lorem Ipsum Act 2016[/b][/size]
Author:
Sponsors:  [hr][/hr][hr][/hr][i]An Act of the Federal Parliament to make provision for vestibulum ante ipsum primis in faucibus orci luctus et ultrices posuere cubilia Curae.[/i]

[b]B[size=85]E IT THEREFORE ENACTED[/size][/b] by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:[hr][/hr][hr][/hr][/align]
[blocktext][align=justify]§1 – [b]Lorem:[/b]
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Donec viverra laoreet convallis. Ut gravida tempor elit, eu porttitor leo facilisis eget. Cras consectetur mauris ac ex commodo mollis. Donec non nulla eu dui pretium bibendum sed sed erat.
 
§2 – [b]Ipsum:[/b]
Cras sed faucibus mi, vitae mattis velit. Praesent sit amet interdum nisi, eu tempus mi. Sed sodales justo a sapien faucibus, vel consectetur erat luctus.[list=a][*]Nullam eu libero quam. Aenean facilisis quam turpis. [*]Pellentesque aliquam et sapien eu aliquam. Aliquam dolor purus, placerat ut felis vel, efficitur imperdiet nisi.[*]Maecenas semper sagittis est, sit amet ultricies magna dictum eu.[/list]
§3 – [b]Dolor[/b]:
[list=1][*]Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Suspendisse et sagittis ipsum.
[*]Vivamus ultricies commodo pulvinar. Nulla pharetra nunc sit amet lorem ultrices blandit. Etiam maximus diam vel ipsum elementum consequat.
[*]Aenean vitae ex nec lectus pretium eleifend hendrerit ac leo. Duis sapien nisl, iaculis et placerat ut, ornare a risus. Aliquam imperdiet ullamcorper tortor, a rhoncus felis suscipit vel.[/list][/align][/blocktext][/box]


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