NSG Senate Reboot Debate and Voting

[The Orson Empire]

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[The Nihilistic view]

The best solution is a blank slate with common law. It allows the Senate to still draft laws and statutes, but in the meantime we have the courts actively determining the law in the process.

Civil law is much better choice.

LOL Peso!

[Great Nepal]

I'd like a compromise between the non-blank state and the blank state. Aurentina was great and exciting because nothing was written down in stone but it was also awfully annoying when people tried to get away with crimes because "no law" technically existed on the subject.

The best solution is a blank slate with common law. It allows the Senate to still draft laws and statutes, but in the meantime we have the courts actively determining the law in the process.

I think regardless of nation framework, we should start with provisional government composed of all existing parties whose primary job is ensuring free and fair executive elections. This allows us to have basic laws like "no murder" via decrees untill legislature makes it official.
In regards to legal system as long as its adversial and we can have plea bargains, I dont really mind.

[Britanno]

I think it can be solved simply by an OOC instruction that there are laws against blowing everything up. Until we make a law that is.

[The New World Oceania]

I think it can be solved simply by an OOC instruction that there are laws against blowing everything up. Until we make a law that is.

What happened to the blank part of blank slate? I stand by my rights to burn down the Chamber.

[Jetan]

Civil law is much better choice.

LOL Peso!

Peso?

[Ainin]

You know, in an actual civil law system, the peso thing couldn't actually happen. The judge could still interpret it to its obvious meaning (i.e. The USD), it just wouldn't set precedent.

[Maklohi Vai]

Voting on the following will start 5 hours from the time of this post and last for 48 hours.

Resolved: The RP should start with a more minimal plan of IC details (blank slate) AGAINST Resolved: The RP should start with a more comprehensive plan of IC details

[Alistan]

I vote for blank slate

And with minimal IC plot.... lets just we just got recently become a traditional gov't after a peaceful revolution against the Communists.

[The New World Oceania]

Motion to extend debate by twelve hours.
(How many seconds does this need, or are we going by a strict voting schedule?)

[Maklohi Vai]

I vote for blank slate

And with minimal IC plot.... lets just we just got recently become a traditional gov't after a peaceful revolution against the Communists.

The vote doesn't start for 5 hours, as I said.

Motion to extend debate by twelve hours.
(How many seconds does this need, or are we going by a strict voting schedule?)

Hmm, ok. This would be extending debate to 36 hours from 24, so I'll set it at 7 seconds.

[The Liberated Territories]

I vote for blank slate

And with minimal IC plot.... lets just we just got recently become a traditional gov't after a peaceful revolution against the Communists.

The vote doesn't start for 5 hours, as I said.

Motion to extend debate by twelve hours.
(How many seconds does this need, or are we going by a strict voting schedule?)

Hmm, ok. This would be extending debate to 36 hours from 24, so I'll set it at 7 seconds.

[Argentarino]

I personally think that we should try to focus more on a hybrid of blank state and non-blank. I wasn't in Aurentina, but what I liked about Baltonia was that there was a bit of structure, something to center an RP off of. I did think that a flaw with going entirely non-blank was the amount of time it took to approve certain basic components, but that's just me.

[The Liberated Territories]

I personally think that we should try to focus more on a hybrid of blank state and non-blank. I wasn't in Aurentina, but what I liked about Baltonia was that there was a bit of structure, something to center an RP off of. I did think that a flaw with going entirely non-blank was the amount of time it took to approve certain basic components, but that's just me.

Vestmark was supposed to be more comprehensive, but I restricted it to only a few things so many other things may be created cooperatively later.

[Ainin]

Why a motion to extend the debate?

<UotW> We're all pretty much set in our ways
<UotW> There's no reason to debate

[The New World Oceania]

Why a motion to extend the debate?

<UotW> We're all pretty much set in our ways
<UotW> There's no reason to debate

That's a good point. I was thinking that some might be undecided and prefer to have more comprehensive explanations of each side's reasoning. I'll leave the motion there anyway, so if seven people feel they aren't educated enough, they'll second it. Else the voting will open for our disconcertingly educated crowd.

[Britanno]

What happened to the blank part of blank slate? I stand by my rights to burn down the Chamber.

I think everyone knows it takes some basic common sense to start a roleplay.

[Ainin]

I think it can be solved simply by an OOC instruction that there are laws against blowing everything up. Until we make a law that is.

What happened to the blank part of blank slate? I stand by my rights to burn down the Chamber.

I stand by my rights to smite you with the suborbital intercontinental tactical IGNORE cannon then.

[Britanno]

Vestmark was supposed to be more comprehensive, but I restricted it to only a few things so many other things may be created cooperatively later.

Like what?

Things you and a couple of others from Team Vestmark haven't decided for us already:

• Government - One of the only important things you've left for us to decide. This is normally done through IC legislation, so fair enough.
• Currency - We didn't really decide on this any of the last couple of times either. Mainly because not many people gave a shit.
• Flag - Considering the located you've decided for us, the flag will probably have to have realism restrictions. This would be the case wherever a nation was located, but the thing here is that nobody else gets a say in where we are located.
• National Motto - Wow, so glad you've left a huge thing for us here.
• Ethnic Groups - You've already decided there will be a large Muslim population (in return for the support of any member of the RP if you ask me), but due to the located you've decided we have to be in, this will be subject to realism restrictions.

[Ainin]

Motion does not carry.

Voting started 3 hours ago, I didn't realise it.

Derp.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

Since (I believe) Maklohi started the vote, I'll vote for non-blank slate.

[Ainin]

Blank slate.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

On second thought, I'll change my vote from non-blank slate to blank slate.

[Glasgia]

I vote FOR BLANK SLATE

Long time since I've used my voting format

[Divitaen]

I vote FOR for the blank slate proposal