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by Oneracon » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:53 pm
Compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72
Pro: | LGBTQ+ rights, basic income, secularism, gun control, internet freedom, civic nationalism, non-military national service, independent Scotland, antifa |
Anti: | Social conservatism, laissez-faire capitalism, NuAtheism, PETA, capital punishment, Putin, SWERF, TERF, GamerGate, "Alt-right" & neo-Nazism, Drumpf, ethnic nationalism, "anti-PC", pineapple on pizza |
by Intermountain States » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:58 pm
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I'm a third party voter. Trust me when I say this: Not even a lifetime supply of tacos could convince me to vote for either Hillary or Trump. I suspect I'm not the only third party voter who feels that way. I cost Hillary nothing. I cost Trump nothing. If I didn't vote for third party, I would have written in 'Batman'.
If you try to blame me, I will laugh in your face. I'm glad she lost. I got half my wish. :)
by Oneracon » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:02 pm
Compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72
Pro: | LGBTQ+ rights, basic income, secularism, gun control, internet freedom, civic nationalism, non-military national service, independent Scotland, antifa |
Anti: | Social conservatism, laissez-faire capitalism, NuAtheism, PETA, capital punishment, Putin, SWERF, TERF, GamerGate, "Alt-right" & neo-Nazism, Drumpf, ethnic nationalism, "anti-PC", pineapple on pizza |
by The New World Oceania » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:48 pm
by The Liberated Territories » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:50 pm
The New World Oceania wrote:Oneracon wrote:Shame, things would be so much more cooler if the US were a multi-party democracy with a directly elected president.
I brought up once that the ideal state of US politics would be a balance between the Greens, the Libertarians, the Socialists, and the Constitution Party. People brought up the issues that a) this is very similar to the Canadian state of politics and b) all of these parties are run by some of the most incompetent people in the country.
I just don't understand. The LP and Greens have some of the best messages in the world and the absolute worst messengers God ever regretted.
by The New World Oceania » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:59 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:The New World Oceania wrote:
I brought up once that the ideal state of US politics would be a balance between the Greens, the Libertarians, the Socialists, and the Constitution Party. People brought up the issues that a) this is very similar to the Canadian state of politics and b) all of these parties are run by some of the most incompetent people in the country.
I just don't understand. The LP and Greens have some of the best messages in the world and the absolute worst messengers God ever regretted.
>The Greens
>Good messages
pick one pls
by Gothmogs » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:05 pm
The New World Oceania wrote:
Call me a dirty leftist, but although I'm full free-market everywhere else I just can't stand that we don't have universal healthcare. Just the most basic of basic, because it doesn't make sense to me that the government legitimately spends money on roads when people are dying of stage 4 terminal cancer without insurance.
by The Liberated Territories » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:10 pm
The New World Oceania wrote:
Call me a dirty leftist, but although I'm full free-market everywhere else I just can't stand that we don't have universal healthcare. Just the most basic of basic, because it doesn't make sense to me that the government legitimately spends money on roads when people are dying of stage 4 terminal cancer without insurance.
by Gothmogs » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:17 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:The New World Oceania wrote:
Call me a dirty leftist, but although I'm full free-market everywhere else I just can't stand that we don't have universal healthcare. Just the most basic of basic, because it doesn't make sense to me that the government legitimately spends money on roads when people are dying of stage 4 terminal cancer without insurance.
Easy. We can compromise with vouchers for that.
Now tell me what's good about some of these stances
-GMO scaring
-Anti nuclear stances
-Homeopathy
-"rewilding"
-nature schools or whatever
and other shit
by The Liberated Territories » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:27 pm
Gothmogs wrote:The Liberated Territories wrote:
Easy. We can compromise with vouchers for that.
Now tell me what's good about some of these stances
-GMO scaring
-Anti nuclear stances
-Homeopathy
-"rewilding"
-nature schools or whatever
and other shit
Sources? I'm just curious. I've known they were anti-nuclear but these other things seem...strange.
by Gothmogs » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:04 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:Gothmogs wrote:Sources? I'm just curious. I've known they were anti-nuclear but these other things seem...strange.
Thank Regnum for all of this:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic ... #p18457033
by United Provinces of Atlantica » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:11 pm
by Gallifrey Secundaria » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:24 pm
United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:New Bierstaat wrote:I'm considering making my own party this time. It would be a right-wing party, of course, with no social policy except for anti-illegal immigration. It would support free or subsidized healthcare for the working poor, and I'd put together good insurance policy since I work in the insurance industry IRL. It would also likely be moderately environmentalist; I've changed my views a bit when it comes to the environment. Anti-national healthcare as always.
I just don't think I'd RP very well as a senator whose views I disagree with. I'm not very creative. And I filled a number of roles in Aurentina including President, party chair, and an influential Senator, but never the creator of a party.
That sounds like the US Democratic Party, to be honest. Yes, it is a right-wing party, but more of a moderate one.
by Gallifrey Secundaria » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:27 pm
by CTALNH » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:29 am
by Argentarino » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:15 am
CTALNH wrote:Britanno wrote:It wasn't the idea for me, it's that you're a godmodding cheat.
Oh screw your realistic opinion Brittano.
People like you destroyed the RP not me.Did I godmod?Fuck yeah I did!But at least I tried to negotiate with people and asked the admins of the senate how much I could godmod.
Didn't the nation itself not godmod? Didn't you pull guns,tanks and airplanes out of your ass too?
Hell the stupid shit I and other people did was the heart that made this RP last us long as it did.
by Of the Quendi » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:18 am
Gallifrey Secundaria wrote:Do away with the president altogether, and just have the prime minister who is chosen from whichever party gets the most votes.
by The Nihilistic view » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:30 am
The New World Oceania wrote:
Call me a dirty leftist, but although I'm full free-market everywhere else I just can't stand that we don't have universal healthcare. Just the most basic of basic, because it doesn't make sense to me that the government legitimately spends money on roads when people are dying of stage 4 terminal cancer without insurance.
by Intermountain States » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:31 am
The Nihilistic view wrote:The New World Oceania wrote:
Call me a dirty leftist, but although I'm full free-market everywhere else I just can't stand that we don't have universal healthcare. Just the most basic of basic, because it doesn't make sense to me that the government legitimately spends money on roads when people are dying of stage 4 terminal cancer without insurance.
What's the point in universal healthcare if you can't get to the hospital due to a lack of roads?
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I'm a third party voter. Trust me when I say this: Not even a lifetime supply of tacos could convince me to vote for either Hillary or Trump. I suspect I'm not the only third party voter who feels that way. I cost Hillary nothing. I cost Trump nothing. If I didn't vote for third party, I would have written in 'Batman'.
If you try to blame me, I will laugh in your face. I'm glad she lost. I got half my wish. :)
by CTALNH » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:36 am
Argentarino wrote:CTALNH wrote:Oh screw your realistic opinion Brittano.
People like you destroyed the RP not me.Did I godmod?Fuck yeah I did!But at least I tried to negotiate with people and asked the admins of the senate how much I could godmod.
Didn't the nation itself not godmod? Didn't you pull guns,tanks and airplanes out of your ass too?
Hell the stupid shit I and other people did was the heart that made this RP last us long as it did.
There is a sizable difference from being lax on reality and godmodding. I highly advise you read about godmodding in the stickies.
by Gallifrey Secundaria » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:06 am
by Dejanic » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:42 am
by Unicario » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:44 am
Dejanic wrote:Yo, former member of the Commie party of the first nationstates senate (Aurentina), and co leader/founder of the Kalengian Social Democratic Labour party, as well as elected defence minister for the government (though I never really did much as the senate basically died after the government was elected), I'd possibly make a Social Democratic party for a new senate if it came around, though I do feel like we'd need to do something about these absurd coalitions that seem to always form.
The first senates composition was odd, we had a "broad left coalition" which had everyone from Liberals to Communists and Stalinists and a "broad right coalition" which seemed to have the Conservatives, Libertarians, and for some reason the Centrists, this was definitely a strange layout but it kind of worked. The second senates composition was horrible though, since we had a "broad centrist coalition" which basically had every party ranging from the centre-right to the centre-left (in other words all the parties that weren't crazy), and then you had the far-lefties in their little coalition, and the far-righties in their own powerless coalition.
If I had to say which system worked the best, I'd say I preferred the former, as at least the parties had a little bit in common, the grand "centrist coalition" of the 2nd Senate was utterly boring, though tbh I'd prefer there to be some sort of limit on how many parties can go into a coalition so we can actually have some diversity.
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