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Postby Britanno » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:54 am

As long as we can make a liberal nation, I quite like the idea.

The problem is that everyone wants excellent universal healthcare, a perfect education system etc. which we couldn't have in a second world country.

Being out of Western Europe would restrict legislation, a bit like Baltonia.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:01 am

Britanno wrote:As long as we can make a liberal nation, I quite like the idea.

The problem is that everyone wants excellent universal healthcare, a perfect education system etc. which we couldn't have in a second world country.

Being out of Western Europe would restrict legislation, a bit like Baltonia.


I don't think it would restrict legislation as such. It would restrict the ability of the government to meet the legislation through.
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Postby New Zepuha » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:35 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Britanno wrote:As long as we can make a liberal nation, I quite like the idea.

The problem is that everyone wants excellent universal healthcare, a perfect education system etc. which we couldn't have in a second world country.

Being out of Western Europe would restrict legislation, a bit like Baltonia.


I don't think it would restrict legislation as such. It would restrict the ability of the government to meet the legislation through.

Or if people want to go hardline realism, it's doubtful many 'liberal' ideas would make it.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:27 pm

Realism sucks donkeyeggs.

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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:30 pm

FUCK YEAH!!!
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Postby Beta Test » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:36 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:FUCK YEAH!!!

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Postby Ravenflight » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:11 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:Realism sucks donkeyeggs.

I want Thor and the Ironman to beat up godmodders again. That was fun. xD

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Postby CTALNH » Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:10 pm

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It's a shame, I thought it was the sort of thing that might have given Baltonia an added dimension that would have made it last longer.

No shit we could have rped so many things!
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Postby Britanno » Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:24 pm

CTALNH wrote:No shit we could have rped so many things!

It wasn't the idea for me, it's that you're a godmodding cheat.
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Postby Oneracon » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:41 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
I don't think it would restrict legislation as such. It would restrict the ability of the government to meet the legislation through.

Or if people want to go hardline realism, it's doubtful many 'liberal' ideas would make it.

It all depends on your definition of "liberal".
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Postby Unicario » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:50 pm

I think when we revive, I'm going to play a politician who's militaristic, nationalistic/jingoist, and anti-capitalist but at the same time, humanitarian, internationalist and pro-democracy. Kind of like fascism but without the racism... and not wanting to dismantle the democratic system.
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Postby Intermountain States » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:53 pm

Unicario wrote:I think when we revive, I'm going to play a politician who's militaristic, nationalistic/jingoist, and anti-capitalist but at the same time, humanitarian, internationalist and pro-democracy. Kind of like fascism but without the racism... and not wanting to dismantle the democratic system.

Will your politician also be power-hungry and try to be friends with some belligerent leader?
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Postby Unicario » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:03 pm

Intermountain States wrote:
Unicario wrote:I think when we revive, I'm going to play a politician who's militaristic, nationalistic/jingoist, and anti-capitalist but at the same time, humanitarian, internationalist and pro-democracy. Kind of like fascism but without the racism... and not wanting to dismantle the democratic system.

Will your politician also be power-hungry and try to be friends with some belligerent leader?


Eh. Probably not.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:08 pm

Unicario wrote:I think when we revive, I'm going to play a politician who's militaristic, nationalistic/jingoist, and anti-capitalist but at the same time, humanitarian, internationalist and pro-democracy. Kind of like fascism but without the racism... and not wanting to dismantle the democratic system.


So exactly like your last three politicians......... :p
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Postby New Zepuha » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:34 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:Realism sucks donkeyeggs.

I want Thor and the Ironman to beat up godmodders again. That was fun. xD

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Postby New Bierstaat » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:43 pm

I'm considering making my own party this time. It would be a right-wing party, of course, with no social policy except for anti-illegal immigration. It would support free or subsidized healthcare for the working poor, and I'd put together good insurance policy since I work in the insurance industry IRL. It would also likely be moderately environmentalist; I've changed my views a bit when it comes to the environment. Anti-national healthcare as always.

I just don't think I'd RP very well as a senator whose views I disagree with. I'm not very creative. And I filled a number of roles in Aurentina including President, party chair, and an influential Senator, but never the creator of a party.
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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:55 pm

New Bierstaat wrote:I'm considering making my own party this time. It would be a right-wing party, of course, with no social policy except for anti-illegal immigration. It would support free or subsidized healthcare for the working poor, and I'd put together good insurance policy since I work in the insurance industry IRL. It would also likely be moderately environmentalist; I've changed my views a bit when it comes to the environment. Anti-national healthcare as always.

I just don't think I'd RP very well as a senator whose views I disagree with. I'm not very creative. And I filled a number of roles in Aurentina including President, party chair, and an influential Senator, but never the creator of a party.

That sounds like the US Democratic Party, to be honest. Yes, it is a right-wing party, but more of a moderate one.
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Postby New Bierstaat » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:09 pm

United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
New Bierstaat wrote:I'm considering making my own party this time. It would be a right-wing party, of course, with no social policy except for anti-illegal immigration. It would support free or subsidized healthcare for the working poor, and I'd put together good insurance policy since I work in the insurance industry IRL. It would also likely be moderately environmentalist; I've changed my views a bit when it comes to the environment. Anti-national healthcare as always.

I just don't think I'd RP very well as a senator whose views I disagree with. I'm not very creative. And I filled a number of roles in Aurentina including President, party chair, and an influential Senator, but never the creator of a party.

That sounds like the US Democratic Party, to be honest. Yes, it is a right-wing party, but more of a moderate one.

I'm actually a Republican.
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Postby Phocidaea » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:04 pm

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Ainin wrote:I don't know why I included the parliamentary system thing in my random rant, maybe because it's 1am and my concentration (as well as coherency as you can clearly see) are flat-out at near zero. I was mostly just talking about the North European island thing.

Ah, well I am happy to slaughter a north european culture and replace it with something else (the NSG Senate always struck me like a legislature better suited for a banana republic then a well functioning democracy anyway; is that strange?). The parliamentary system I would hate to loose. Aurentina was already too semi-presidential for my tastes.

Probably because Aurentina was run and RPd like a banana republic while officially described as a first world functional democracy.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:09 pm

New Bierstaat wrote:
United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:That sounds like the US Democratic Party, to be honest. Yes, it is a right-wing party, but more of a moderate one.

I'm actually a Republican.

You do not sound like a typical Republican.

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:10 pm

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New Bierstaat wrote:I'm actually a Republican.

You do not sound like a typical Republican.


Ayup, he's actually a tea partier. How's that for breaking stereotypes?

:rofl:
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Postby The Orson Empire » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:12 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:You do not sound like a typical Republican.


Ayup, he's actually a tea partier. How's that for breaking stereotypes?

:rofl:

He's a member of the Tea Party? His viewpoints do not match those of the Tea Party, though.

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Postby Intermountain States » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:20 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Ayup, he's actually a tea partier. How's that for breaking stereotypes?

:rofl:

He's a member of the Tea Party? His viewpoints do not match those of the Tea Party, though.

He's a member of the more libertarian wing of the Tea Party (which do exist). Not all Tea Partiers are super-religious and ultra-conservative.
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Postby Unicario » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:20 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Unicario wrote:I think when we revive, I'm going to play a politician who's militaristic, nationalistic/jingoist, and anti-capitalist but at the same time, humanitarian, internationalist and pro-democracy. Kind of like fascism but without the racism... and not wanting to dismantle the democratic system.


So exactly like your last three politicians......... :p


Yeah, but more overtly right-wing. Democratic Fascism bruh.
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Postby Distruzio » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:31 pm

Unicario wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
So exactly like your last three politicians......... :p


Yeah, but more overtly right-wing. Democratic Fascism bruh.


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