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Costa Alegria
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Postby Costa Alegria » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:24 pm

Beta Test wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:Firstly, there are a few key Ministries are Missing. These include: Immigration, Transport, Communications, Social Welfare, Agriculture and Trade. Surely if a state were to function adequately to meet the needs of its citizens, then shouldn't these ministries also be included? I would therefore support this Act only if the amendments to include such Ministries have been made.



Veterans Affairs, Commerce and the Postal Service are also missing. I would support an amendment to add those to the bill.


I've already outlined trade. Veterans Affairs would likely fall under the Social Welfare portfolio and the Postal Service doesn't require a separate ministry.

Great Nepal wrote:I support the act as it currently stands, in regards to additional and quite important ministries, final clause in the act enables reigning government to create those ministries if it is deemed nessecery. This act mealy requires listed ministries to exist.


So, Social Welfare, Transport, Immigration, Communications, Trade and Agriculture are not as important as Culture and Sport?
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Postby Camelza » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:24 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Camelza wrote:Well said senator, may I add "Ministry of Public Works" and "Ministry of Labour" to your list?

Wouldn't both of them be covered under "ministry of work"?

No senator, I'm sorry to dissapoint you, but labour rights and talks with the country's unions are a vastly different thing from city planning and building roads.
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Postby Aeken » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:27 pm

Okay, now the bill's been updated to the motioned draft.

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Beta Test
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Postby Beta Test » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:29 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
Beta Test wrote:

Veterans Affairs, Commerce and the Postal Service are also missing. I would support an amendment to add those to the bill.



Commerce would be domestic industrial concerns, not foreign trade.
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Postby Costa Alegria » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:31 pm

Beta Test wrote:Commerce would be domestic industrial concerns, not foreign trade.


Then they should be merged into the same Ministry.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:32 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:I support the act as it currently stands, in regards to additional and quite important ministries, final clause in the act enables reigning government to create those ministries if it is deemed nessecery. This act mealy requires listed ministries to exist.


So, Social Welfare,

That would require government to have such policies, therefore depends on which side is in control of government.

Costa Alegria wrote:Transport,

Okay, I accept that...

Costa Alegria wrote:Immigration,

Covered broadly under ministry of foreign affairs.

Costa Alegria wrote:Communications,

Okay, I accept that...

Costa Alegria wrote:Trade and Agriculture

Ministry of environment for agriculture. I think we could merge ministry of trade with ministry of work.

Costa Alegria wrote:are not as important as Culture and Sport?

I personally dont think culture and sports should be in the bill, but it was either that or having just ministry of sport.

Camelza wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Wouldn't both of them be covered under "ministry of work"?

No senator, I'm sorry to dissapoint you, but labour rights and talks with the union are a vastly different thing from city planning and building roads.

Yes, but not both of them require mandatory ministry, especially not if it is septate ones. We can just expand job description of ministry of work.
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Postby Beta Test » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:33 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
Beta Test wrote:Commerce would be domestic industrial concerns, not foreign trade.


Then they should be merged into the same Ministry.



That would work just as well.
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Postby New Freedomstan » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:33 pm

I move that the following bill be added to the queue for debate, and further suggest it be added to the top of the queue due to the urgency involved.

Policing and Law Enforcement Act (2013)


Urgency: UTMOST

Drafted by: Senator Kouralia of the USLP

Co-Sponsors: New Freedomstan (USLP), Evraim (PC), Othelos (PC), Zweite Alaje (NIFP), Demphor (N/A), Geilinor (LD), Ziegenhain (LFP)




The government of our nation,

AWARE that our fair land has no formalised method of dealing with criminals,

UNDERSTANDING that such a situation is objectively unacceptable,

RECOMMENDING that the senate hereby moves to form a uniformed, official and publicly accountable Police Force/Police Forces along the following lines.


A : Formation of Localised Constabularies and Equivalents
1.0 - The formation of the Regional Marshals and Temporary Policing Coordination bureau
1.1 - Acknowledging that the creation of a professional and qualified Police Force takes time, we must not suffer temporary anarchy.
1.2 - In order to overcome this, until such time as a professional organisation can be formed, a system of elected deputies shall exist. Each geographically-divided region shall be mandated to elect approximately 1% of its populaton to serve part-time as a 'Regional Marshal' [hereafter RM]. Their job shall be to temporarily inter people under the society's interpretation of the laws. Additionally, a Temporary Policing Coordination Bureau [hereafter TPCB] shall be formed to manage, enlist, dismiss and investigate the RMs.
1.3 - Acknowledging that this leaves the situation open to abuse, an alert of any act committed by an RM shall be transmitted to the TPCB by the RM him/herself. The TPCB shall be able to order any RM to cease and desist in any activities.
1.4 - All RM shall be accountable for their actions, which shall be reviewed by the Ministry of Justice (National Security Act) following the dissolution of the RM and TPCB. If they are found to be unlawful then a punishment can be thusly applied.
1.5 - Any RM may be formally relieved of their position by the TPCB if a complaint regarding them is found to be truthful and of acceptable severity.
1.6 - The position of RM shall be paid by a wage of *X*, not affected by their productivity but affected by their successful conviction rate with danger pay provided.

2.0 - The dissolution of the Regional Marshals and Temporary Policing Coordination Bureau
2.1 - The Dissolution of the RM and TPCB shall occur by the order of a judge of a Court of Law, with each order only being able to be passed when the Officers Commanding of any relevant regional Constabularies agree that they are capable of undertaking the Law Enforcement Duties in that area.
2.2 - Any RM who refuses to surrender any claim to that position when required to do so by the legal authority of the TCPB or a Court of Law will be charged with Impersonating a Police Officer.

3.0 - Formation of Regional Constabularies
3.1 - Jurisdictional Districts shall be determined by a Committee of the Ministry of Justice (National Security Act), and each shall have a Constabulary formed within it. (e.g. Metropolitan Constabulary).
3.2 - The recruitment of officers into each Constabulary shall be handled by the relevant officials in that Constabulary, with final decisions remaining with that Constabulary.
3.3 - Requirements for recruitment will be determined by each Constabulary, however the following shall be mandated as a minimum:
  • Holding a Current Drivers License (Following the creation of a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency)
  • Ability to swim
  • No past violent or serious crimes
  • Non-membership of any Party Paramilitary (e.g. the Security Branch of the People's Proletarian Force)
  • Passing of a Standardised Fitness Test, the contents of which are to be determined.

B : Accountability of Localised Constabularies and Equivalents
1.0 - Accountability of Regional Marshals
1.1 - All RM shall be held accountable to the TPCB, and the TPCB has complete ability to mandate removal of an RM for violation of organisational ethics.
1.2 - The TPCB is accountable to the elected Minister of the Ministry of Justice (National Security Act), and the request for its dissolvement shall come from him/her alone.

2.0 - Accountability of Local Constabularies
2.1 - All local Constabularies will be held accountable to the Independent Police Internal Affairs Agency [hereafter IPIAA].
2.2 - The IPIAA shall be tasked with investigating fully any complaint against the Local Constabularies.
2.3 - The IPIAA shall have the ability to fire any police officer found to have violated the Policing Code of Practice, or provide any other proportionate punishment including recommending they be charged with a criminal activity to be tried in a Court of Law.
2.4 - The IPIAA and Regional Constabularies shall be held accountable to the Ministry of Justice (National Security Act) and therefore to the elected Minister, and therefore to the Public. This ensures that neither organisation can continue along a path without the backing of the Public.

C : Powers of Local Constabularies
1.0 - Powers to Arrest or Search a Person
1.1 - Any sworn in Constable (Constable used hereafter to refer to any sworn in law enforcement officer of a Local Constabulary) can arrest someone formally as a Police Officer as opposed to a Citizen’s Arrest.
1.2 - Upon arresting any person, the Constable must cite which section of the Law they have breached, and have their rights read to them: ‘You have the right to remain silent, however anything you do say can and could be taken down and be used in a court of law against you. beware of failing to mention something now which you later rely on in a Court of Law. You have the right to Legal Assistance.’ If this does not occur then the Custody Serjeant may refuse to take Custody of the Arrestee.
1.3 - In order to arrest that person, the Constable must have reasonable cause to believe they have breached the required section of the law, and should they fail to have breached that section of law then the Constable could suffer a penalty up to and including Assault, Kidnapping and Unlawful Detainment.
1.4 - In the event that a person resists this arrest, another charge may be applied. If the arrest is found to be unlawful, this charge may be translated to a relevant civilian/civilian assault charge should it be found to be disproportionate (i.e. stabbing a police man because said Constable is mistakenly arresting the wrong person for throwing a projectile at a Constable would result in a charge of attempted murder - even if it were determined that the Constable Arresting were doing do knowingly unlawfully.)
1.5 - No person may be searched without consent unless they have been arrested.
1.6 - Refusing to be searched is not a crime, however if being searched is a requirement for anything (e.g. entering a Government Building) then refusal to be searched will not enable this requirement to be bypassed.
1.7 - No person may be searched by a Constable of the opposite gender.
1.8 - Any evidence procured through a search must be isolated from the Officer’s possessions and placed within an evidence bag. It’s seizure must be made known to the Searchee. If this does not occur then it may be inadmissable in court.

2.0 - Powers to Enter or Search a Property
1.1 - A Police Officer may enter any private property should they have reason to believe (beyond reasonable doubt) that any of the following are occurring:
  • Assault
  • Battery
  • Murder
  • Manslaughter
  • Theft
  • Sexual Assaults
  • Destruction of Property
They may enter any private property should they have reason to believe (beyond any reasonable doubt) that any of the following have been committed in the property:
  • Murder
They may enter any private property in order to pursue a fleeing suspect. They may enter any private property to ‘ensure the safety and integrity of life of person or property’. If this is found to be mis-used then the police officer may be punished up to and including being charged with Breaking and Entering.
1.2 - A Police Officer may search a property without a warrant under the above conditions barring Pursuit of a Suspect. This search must be non-invasive and must end at the boundary of the private property.
1.3 - Any destruction of property occurring through an illegal entrance or search will be compensated for to 100% by the Local Constabulary. If the search or entrance was legal, then an application for compensation may be made but successful reimbursement is not guaranteed.

3.0 - Powers with Warrant
3.1 - If in possession of a valid warrant (e.g. ‘Warrant to Search property Number 221B, Baker Street, London’) then the pre-stated requirements to search, enter or arrest an individual or property are not required.
3.2 - If this warrant is served incorrectly, then the results of the search may be inadmissible.
3.3 - If the property owner is present and brought to hold conversation with involved Constables, then said warrant must be presented to them for inspection. If not, then it must be presented to them upon arrival.
3.4 - Violence to resist the serving of a warrant will incur a criminal charge.
3.5 - A warrant may only be signed by a Sworn In Judge, and if it does not contain a signature from any said person then it is invalid as a legal document.
3.6 - If said warrant was invalid illegal, enacting it will not constitute an offence, unless it is done while knowing that the warrant was invalid, in which case a penalty up to and including Breaking and Entering OR Assault and Kidnapping and Unlawful Detention OR Assault (respectively to Enter, Arrest or Search (a person)).

4.0 - Power to Bear Arms
4.1 - Understanding this nation has no firearms limitation laws, all Police officers are entitled (or mandated, by Constabulary-Determined policy) to carry Constabulary-standardised firearms classified as ‘Pistols’ about their person while on duty.
4.2 - Understanding this nation has no firearms limitation laws, specialist Firearms units shall be formed of specially trained and selected elite Firearms Officers.
4.3 - Said Firearms Officers may carry appropriate weaponry for their role.

5.0 - Power to End Life
5.1 - Should an armed person A) present a Clear and Present Danger, or B) cause a Constable to believe they present a Clear and Present Danger to another human being, a Constable will be justified in engaging them with their Duty Weapon.
5.2 - Said Constable is justified in using sufficient force to neutralise the threat utterly.
5.3 - Said Constable is free to act without prior permission in such an instance.
5.4 - Said Constable’s actions will be thoroughly investigated, and if the action was found to be justified yet in error (see 5.1.B), no action may be taken to punish them. If the action was found to be in error and unjustified then any punishment up to and including being charged with Murder may occur.

6.0 - Jurisdiction
6.1 - A Local Constabulary’s jurisdiction RE: call outs extends to the limit of their jurisdiction, with reasonable leeway.
6.2 - A Local Constabulary’s jurisdiction RE: crimes in progress and witnessed by a Constable in person extends up to the end of national borders and national waters.
6.3 - Hot Pursuit applies RE: the pursuit of suspects cross jurisdictions.
6.4 - A Constable maintains powers over any and all citizens of this nation, including Military Personnel. This is not reciprocated by Military Policemen. Any citizen of this nation may Lawfully Assist a Constable in the lawful enactment of their powers.

D : Equipment
1.0 - Uniforms
1.1 - It is recommended that the uniform of each Constable consist of numerous Dress Uniform Numbers. Ceremonial, Working and Combat.
1.2 - Ceremonial to consist of a Standardised national Dress Uniform in line with, yet distinct of the Army #1 Dress.
1.3 - Working to consist of easily maintained and hard-wearing material clothes, an example being a service cap/bowler hat, a stab-proof vest in an unobtrusive hue (black recommended), belt kit, a polo-shirt in an unobtrusive hue, cargo trousers in an unobtrusive hue and combat boots (black). This uniform may be deviated from by Local Constabularies.
1.4 - Combat to consist of Working with ballistic protection for use by Firearms Officers.

2.0 - Belt Kit
2.1 - Acknowledging that all Police Constables require equipment in the carrying out of their duty.
2.2 - Mandating the carrying of this by every Beat Officer:
  • 1x Handcuffs Pair
  • 1x Baton
  • 1x CS can
  • 1x Radio
  • 2x Evidence Bags
  • 1x Badge of Office
2.3 - Recognising that additional equipment may be carried by Constables where necessary.

3.0 - Weaponry
3.1 - Understanding this nation has no firearms limitation laws, it is recommended that all Constabularies arm their officers with a semi-automatic, magazine fed pistol firing a round either 9x19mm or .45 ACP.
3.2 - Understanding this nation has no firearms limitation laws, it is recommended that all Constabularies maintain an appropriate arsenal of Pistol-Cartridge semi-automatic Carbines (‘SMGs’), Intermediate-Cartridge select fire Rifles (Assault Rifles), Smooth-bore weapons (Shotguns) and Rifle-Cartridge Semi-automatic Rifles (Battle or ‘Sniper’ Rifles).

4.0 Vehicles
4.1 - Recommending that all Constabularies adopt a standardised vehicle which shall be chosen for it’s suitability to task. But not mandating this.
4.2 - Mandating all Constabularies outfit their vehicles with Battenburg markings (yellow/Blue) for clarification, Constabulary Livery and lights.
4.3 - Allowing any Constabulary to procure specialist vehicles as and where necessary, if it meets the requirements.

E : Misc.
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1.1 - The Constabularies will be utterly independent of any and all Political Parties.

F : Ommissions of Act
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1.1 - This Act Omits listing the Criminal Justice Code
1.2 - This Act Omits listing the Police Code of Code of Conduct
1.3 - This Act Omits legislating on the creation of Courts, though RECOMMENDS that such is done.
1.4 - This Act Omits legislating on Service Police or Nationwide Forces. National Police are covered by the National Security Act (National Security Act), and Service Police (e.g. Military Police, Air Force Police, Naval Provost) must be covered in legislation concerning their respective branches. it is RECOMMENDED that such is done.
1.5 - This Act Omits legislating on Forensics Investigation, though RECOMMENDS that such is done.





I also, unofficially, suggest we call police officers for 'Kouries' after this excellent bill by Kouralia.

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Camelza
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Postby Camelza » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:34 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Camelza wrote:No senator, I'm sorry to dissapoint you, but labour rights and talks with the union are a vastly different thing from city planning and building roads.

Yes, but not both of them require mandatory ministry, especially not if it is septate ones. We can just expand job description of ministry of work.

Ok, agreed ...also please change the title of the ministry; "ministry of work" sounds terrible.

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Postby Kouralia » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:35 pm

New Freedomstan wrote:I move that the following bill be added to the queue for debate, and further suggest it be added to the top of the queue due to the urgency involved.

Policing and Law Enforcement Act (2013)


Urgency: UTMOST

Drafted by: Senator Kouralia of the USLP

Co-Sponsors: New Freedomstan (USLP), Evraim (PC), Othelos (PC), Zweite Alaje (NIFP), Demphor (N/A), Geilinor (LD), Ziegenhain (LFP)




The government of our nation,

AWARE that our fair land has no formalised method of dealing with criminals,

UNDERSTANDING that such a situation is objectively unacceptable,

RECOMMENDING that the senate hereby moves to form a uniformed, official and publicly accountable Police Force/Police Forces along the following lines.


A : Formation of Localised Constabularies and Equivalents
1.0 - The formation of the Regional Marshals and Temporary Policing Coordination bureau
1.1 - Acknowledging that the creation of a professional and qualified Police Force takes time, we must not suffer temporary anarchy.
1.2 - In order to overcome this, until such time as a professional organisation can be formed, a system of elected deputies shall exist. Each geographically-divided region shall be mandated to elect approximately 1% of its populaton to serve part-time as a 'Regional Marshal' [hereafter RM]. Their job shall be to temporarily inter people under the society's interpretation of the laws. Additionally, a Temporary Policing Coordination Bureau [hereafter TPCB] shall be formed to manage, enlist, dismiss and investigate the RMs.
1.3 - Acknowledging that this leaves the situation open to abuse, an alert of any act committed by an RM shall be transmitted to the TPCB by the RM him/herself. The TPCB shall be able to order any RM to cease and desist in any activities.
1.4 - All RM shall be accountable for their actions, which shall be reviewed by the Ministry of Justice (National Security Act) following the dissolution of the RM and TPCB. If they are found to be unlawful then a punishment can be thusly applied.
1.5 - Any RM may be formally relieved of their position by the TPCB if a complaint regarding them is found to be truthful and of acceptable severity.
1.6 - The position of RM shall be paid by a wage of *X*, not affected by their productivity but affected by their successful conviction rate with danger pay provided.

2.0 - The dissolution of the Regional Marshals and Temporary Policing Coordination Bureau
2.1 - The Dissolution of the RM and TPCB shall occur by the order of a judge of a Court of Law, with each order only being able to be passed when the Officers Commanding of any relevant regional Constabularies agree that they are capable of undertaking the Law Enforcement Duties in that area.
2.2 - Any RM who refuses to surrender any claim to that position when required to do so by the legal authority of the TCPB or a Court of Law will be charged with Impersonating a Police Officer.

3.0 - Formation of Regional Constabularies
3.1 - Jurisdictional Districts shall be determined by a Committee of the Ministry of Justice (National Security Act), and each shall have a Constabulary formed within it. (e.g. Metropolitan Constabulary).
3.2 - The recruitment of officers into each Constabulary shall be handled by the relevant officials in that Constabulary, with final decisions remaining with that Constabulary.
3.3 - Requirements for recruitment will be determined by each Constabulary, however the following shall be mandated as a minimum:
  • Holding a Current Drivers License (Following the creation of a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency)
  • Ability to swim
  • No past violent or serious crimes
  • Non-membership of any Party Paramilitary (e.g. the Security Branch of the People's Proletarian Force)
  • Passing of a Standardised Fitness Test, the contents of which are to be determined.

B : Accountability of Localised Constabularies and Equivalents
1.0 - Accountability of Regional Marshals
1.1 - All RM shall be held accountable to the TPCB, and the TPCB has complete ability to mandate removal of an RM for violation of organisational ethics.
1.2 - The TPCB is accountable to the elected Minister of the Ministry of Justice (National Security Act), and the request for its dissolvement shall come from him/her alone.

2.0 - Accountability of Local Constabularies
2.1 - All local Constabularies will be held accountable to the Independent Police Internal Affairs Agency [hereafter IPIAA].
2.2 - The IPIAA shall be tasked with investigating fully any complaint against the Local Constabularies.
2.3 - The IPIAA shall have the ability to fire any police officer found to have violated the Policing Code of Practice, or provide any other proportionate punishment including recommending they be charged with a criminal activity to be tried in a Court of Law.
2.4 - The IPIAA and Regional Constabularies shall be held accountable to the Ministry of Justice (National Security Act) and therefore to the elected Minister, and therefore to the Public. This ensures that neither organisation can continue along a path without the backing of the Public.

C : Powers of Local Constabularies
1.0 - Powers to Arrest or Search a Person
1.1 - Any sworn in Constable (Constable used hereafter to refer to any sworn in law enforcement officer of a Local Constabulary) can arrest someone formally as a Police Officer as opposed to a Citizen’s Arrest.
1.2 - Upon arresting any person, the Constable must cite which section of the Law they have breached, and have their rights read to them: ‘You have the right to remain silent, however anything you do say can and could be taken down and be used in a court of law against you. beware of failing to mention something now which you later rely on in a Court of Law. You have the right to Legal Assistance.’ If this does not occur then the Custody Serjeant may refuse to take Custody of the Arrestee.
1.3 - In order to arrest that person, the Constable must have reasonable cause to believe they have breached the required section of the law, and should they fail to have breached that section of law then the Constable could suffer a penalty up to and including Assault, Kidnapping and Unlawful Detainment.
1.4 - In the event that a person resists this arrest, another charge may be applied. If the arrest is found to be unlawful, this charge may be translated to a relevant civilian/civilian assault charge should it be found to be disproportionate (i.e. stabbing a police man because said Constable is mistakenly arresting the wrong person for throwing a projectile at a Constable would result in a charge of attempted murder - even if it were determined that the Constable Arresting were doing do knowingly unlawfully.)
1.5 - No person may be searched without consent unless they have been arrested.
1.6 - Refusing to be searched is not a crime, however if being searched is a requirement for anything (e.g. entering a Government Building) then refusal to be searched will not enable this requirement to be bypassed.
1.7 - No person may be searched by a Constable of the opposite gender.
1.8 - Any evidence procured through a search must be isolated from the Officer’s possessions and placed within an evidence bag. It’s seizure must be made known to the Searchee. If this does not occur then it may be inadmissable in court.

2.0 - Powers to Enter or Search a Property
1.1 - A Police Officer may enter any private property should they have reason to believe (beyond reasonable doubt) that any of the following are occurring:
  • Assault
  • Battery
  • Murder
  • Manslaughter
  • Theft
  • Sexual Assaults
  • Destruction of Property
They may enter any private property should they have reason to believe (beyond any reasonable doubt) that any of the following have been committed in the property:
  • Murder
They may enter any private property in order to pursue a fleeing suspect. They may enter any private property to ‘ensure the safety and integrity of life of person or property’. If this is found to be mis-used then the police officer may be punished up to and including being charged with Breaking and Entering.
1.2 - A Police Officer may search a property without a warrant under the above conditions barring Pursuit of a Suspect. This search must be non-invasive and must end at the boundary of the private property.
1.3 - Any destruction of property occurring through an illegal entrance or search will be compensated for to 100% by the Local Constabulary. If the search or entrance was legal, then an application for compensation may be made but successful reimbursement is not guaranteed.

3.0 - Powers with Warrant
3.1 - If in possession of a valid warrant (e.g. ‘Warrant to Search property Number 221B, Baker Street, London’) then the pre-stated requirements to search, enter or arrest an individual or property are not required.
3.2 - If this warrant is served incorrectly, then the results of the search may be inadmissible.
3.3 - If the property owner is present and brought to hold conversation with involved Constables, then said warrant must be presented to them for inspection. If not, then it must be presented to them upon arrival.
3.4 - Violence to resist the serving of a warrant will incur a criminal charge.
3.5 - A warrant may only be signed by a Sworn In Judge, and if it does not contain a signature from any said person then it is invalid as a legal document.
3.6 - If said warrant was invalid illegal, enacting it will not constitute an offence, unless it is done while knowing that the warrant was invalid, in which case a penalty up to and including Breaking and Entering OR Assault and Kidnapping and Unlawful Detention OR Assault (respectively to Enter, Arrest or Search (a person)).

4.0 - Power to Bear Arms
4.1 - Understanding this nation has no firearms limitation laws, all Police officers are entitled (or mandated, by Constabulary-Determined policy) to carry Constabulary-standardised firearms classified as ‘Pistols’ about their person while on duty.
4.2 - Understanding this nation has no firearms limitation laws, specialist Firearms units shall be formed of specially trained and selected elite Firearms Officers.
4.3 - Said Firearms Officers may carry appropriate weaponry for their role.

5.0 - Power to End Life
5.1 - Should an armed person A) present a Clear and Present Danger, or B) cause a Constable to believe they present a Clear and Present Danger to another human being, a Constable will be justified in engaging them with their Duty Weapon.
5.2 - Said Constable is justified in using sufficient force to neutralise the threat utterly.
5.3 - Said Constable is free to act without prior permission in such an instance.
5.4 - Said Constable’s actions will be thoroughly investigated, and if the action was found to be justified yet in error (see 5.1.B), no action may be taken to punish them. If the action was found to be in error and unjustified then any punishment up to and including being charged with Murder may occur.

6.0 - Jurisdiction
6.1 - A Local Constabulary’s jurisdiction RE: call outs extends to the limit of their jurisdiction, with reasonable leeway.
6.2 - A Local Constabulary’s jurisdiction RE: crimes in progress and witnessed by a Constable in person extends up to the end of national borders and national waters.
6.3 - Hot Pursuit applies RE: the pursuit of suspects cross jurisdictions.
6.4 - A Constable maintains powers over any and all citizens of this nation, including Military Personnel. This is not reciprocated by Military Policemen. Any citizen of this nation may Lawfully Assist a Constable in the lawful enactment of their powers.

D : Equipment
1.0 - Uniforms
1.1 - It is recommended that the uniform of each Constable consist of numerous Dress Uniform Numbers. Ceremonial, Working and Combat.
1.2 - Ceremonial to consist of a Standardised national Dress Uniform in line with, yet distinct of the Army #1 Dress.
1.3 - Working to consist of easily maintained and hard-wearing material clothes, an example being a service cap/bowler hat, a stab-proof vest in an unobtrusive hue (black recommended), belt kit, a polo-shirt in an unobtrusive hue, cargo trousers in an unobtrusive hue and combat boots (black). This uniform may be deviated from by Local Constabularies.
1.4 - Combat to consist of Working with ballistic protection for use by Firearms Officers.

2.0 - Belt Kit
2.1 - Acknowledging that all Police Constables require equipment in the carrying out of their duty.
2.2 - Mandating the carrying of this by every Beat Officer:
  • 1x Handcuffs Pair
  • 1x Baton
  • 1x CS can
  • 1x Radio
  • 2x Evidence Bags
  • 1x Badge of Office
2.3 - Recognising that additional equipment may be carried by Constables where necessary.

3.0 - Weaponry
3.1 - Understanding this nation has no firearms limitation laws, it is recommended that all Constabularies arm their officers with a semi-automatic, magazine fed pistol firing a round either 9x19mm or .45 ACP.
3.2 - Understanding this nation has no firearms limitation laws, it is recommended that all Constabularies maintain an appropriate arsenal of Pistol-Cartridge semi-automatic Carbines (‘SMGs’), Intermediate-Cartridge select fire Rifles (Assault Rifles), Smooth-bore weapons (Shotguns) and Rifle-Cartridge Semi-automatic Rifles (Battle or ‘Sniper’ Rifles).

4.0 Vehicles
4.1 - Recommending that all Constabularies adopt a standardised vehicle which shall be chosen for it’s suitability to task. But not mandating this.
4.2 - Mandating all Constabularies outfit their vehicles with Battenburg markings (yellow/Blue) for clarification, Constabulary Livery and lights.
4.3 - Allowing any Constabulary to procure specialist vehicles as and where necessary, if it meets the requirements.

E : Misc.
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1.1 - The Constabularies will be utterly independent of any and all Political Parties.

F : Ommissions of Act
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1.1 - This Act Omits listing the Criminal Justice Code
1.2 - This Act Omits listing the Police Code of Code of Conduct
1.3 - This Act Omits legislating on the creation of Courts, though RECOMMENDS that such is done.
1.4 - This Act Omits legislating on Service Police or Nationwide Forces. National Police are covered by the National Security Act (National Security Act), and Service Police (e.g. Military Police, Air Force Police, Naval Provost) must be covered in legislation concerning their respective branches. it is RECOMMENDED that such is done.
1.5 - This Act Omits legislating on Forensics Investigation, though RECOMMENDS that such is done.





I also, unofficially, suggest we call police officers for 'Kouries' after this excellent bill by Kouralia.

I second this motion. And the latter bit too...
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Postby Seelelander » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:39 pm

I do, of course, support Kouralia's bill, and the motion to make it urgent.

Kouries are also an awesome name for the police. So I will call them Kouries even if others don't.

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Postby Trotskylvania » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:39 pm

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New Freedomstan wrote:I move that the following bill be added to the queue for debate, and further suggest it be added to the top of the queue due to the urgency involved.



I also, unofficially, suggest we call police officers for 'Kouries' after this excellent bill by Kouralia.

I second this motion. And the latter bit too...
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Perhaps combine it in an omnibus with the National Security Act, since it references parts of the NSA.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:40 pm

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Yes, but not both of them require mandatory ministry, especially not if it is septate ones. We can just expand job description of ministry of work.

Ok, agreed ...also please change the title of the ministry; "ministry of work" sounds terrible.

Ministry of opus? Everything sounds better in Latin.
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Postby Kouralia » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:43 pm

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Kouralia wrote:I second this motion. And the latter bit too...
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Perhaps combine it in an omnibus with the National Security Act, since it references parts of the NSA.

I accept this.

Hereby I move that both should be voted upon simultaneously, yet separately.
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Postby Camelza » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:44 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Camelza wrote:Ok, agreed ...also please change the title of the ministry; "ministry of work" sounds terrible.

Ministry of opus? Everything sounds better in Latin.

Sounds like octopus.

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Postby Costa Alegria » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:44 pm

Great Nepal wrote:That would require government to have such policies, therefore depends on which side is in control of government.


I sincerely doubt that any government would neglect the needs of its people. Therefore, Social Welfare is needed.

Okay, I accept that...


Indeed. That's the least I am asking is a ministry to ensure transport needs of this nation are addressed.

Covered broadly under ministry of foreign affairs.


Except that immigration is a little different to maintaining relations with foreign governments and insuring that our citizens have access to consular help overseas.

Ministry of environment for agriculture.


I don't think it would effectively be covered under the Environment portfolio. Environment is too broad and would not effectively meet the needs of those in that sector in my opinion. We would need to address more than just sustainable or even environmentally-friendly farming practices.

I think we could merge ministry of trade with ministry of work.


I disagree.

I personally dont think culture and sports should be in the bill, but it was either that or having just ministry of sport.


I do not. I don't think that either Culture nor Sport should have taken priority over essential infrastructure portfolios such as Transport or Communications.
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Camelza wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Ministry of opus? Everything sounds better in Latin.

Sounds like octopus.

Really, I suggested it because it sounded like "ministry of opium"...
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Postby Kouralia » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:45 pm

Camelza wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Ministry of opus? Everything sounds better in Latin.

Sounds like octopus.

Ministry Del Lavoro.

Because screw Latin, I have Italian.
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Kouralia wrote:
Camelza wrote:Sounds like octopus.

Ministry Del Lavoro.

Because screw Latin, I have Italian.

I'll support it.

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Postby Grenartia » Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:11 am

Costa Alegria wrote:Firstly, there are a few key Ministries are Missing. These include: Immigration, Transport, Communications, Social Welfare, Agriculture and Trade. Surely if a state were to function adequately to meet the needs of its citizens, then shouldn't these ministries also be included? I would therefore support this Act only if the amendments to include such Ministries have been made.


I support these changes.

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Costa Alegria wrote:Firstly, there are a few key Ministries are Missing. These include: Immigration, Transport, Communications, Social Welfare, Agriculture and Trade. Surely if a state were to function adequately to meet the needs of its citizens, then shouldn't these ministries also be included? I would therefore support this Act only if the amendments to include such Ministries have been made.



Veterans Affairs, Commerce and the Postal Service are also missing. I would support an amendment to add those to the bill.


And these as well.

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Veterans Affairs, Commerce and the Postal Service are also missing. I would support an amendment to add those to the bill.


I've already outlined trade. Veterans Affairs would likely fall under the Social Welfare portfolio and the Postal Service doesn't require a separate ministry.


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Grenartia wrote:Why doesn't it?


Because it's a business. Do airlines have their own ministries? Do train or bus or shipping companies?
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Postby New Freedomstan » Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:47 am

Costa Alegria wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Why doesn't it?


Because it's a business. Do airlines have their own ministries? Do train or bus or shipping companies?

If they are under state-management, they may (such as the Ministry of Petroleum in Norway, or the Ministry of Tobacco in Cuba).

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Postby Costa Alegria » Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:51 am

New Freedomstan wrote:If they are under state-management, they may (such as the Ministry of Petroleum in Norway, or the Ministry of Tobacco in Cuba).


The Ministry of Petroleum is the same as the Ministry of Oil, meaning specific industry related (and in some cases, pointless) Ministries. Businesses do not have ministries ant the postal service is not a business. It can be state owned, that's perfectly reasonable, but it isn't necessary to have a separate ministry for the postal service. There's no need.
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Camelza wrote:
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Yes, but not both of them require mandatory ministry, especially not if it is septate ones. We can just expand job description of ministry of work.

Ok, agreed ...also please change the title of the ministry; "ministry of work" sounds terrible.


The Ministry of Labour?
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:03 am

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Camelza wrote:Ok, agreed ...also please change the title of the ministry; "ministry of work" sounds terrible.


The Ministry of Labour?

Ministry of Labor.
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