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Ala-Guorkar
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Postby Ala-Guorkar » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:53 pm

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:51 am

What makes you think this has any more chance of passing than the half dozen others (legal and illegal) that have already been submitted?
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Hayeri
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Postby Hayeri » Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:34 pm

This is just stupid.

No, seriously. As the NDG representative, I find this just plain wrong. They were just wrong, and yeah. There's a difference between Nazi states and moronic hellholes that need to be liberated. That was a moronic hellhole that needed to be liberated. There's one up at vote. I went against it.
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We Are Not the NSA
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:09 pm

Ala-Guorkar wrote:The Security Council,

Recognizing the bitter feud between the left-wing community and the Nazi community;

Noting that the region Nazi Europa, the main Nazi force currently protecting The NSIA, is not centered in Nazi beliefs and propaganda;

Starting off with some snark: "currently protecting" isn't exactly accurate. :P

On to an actual criticism: A major problem with this draft is that it isn't entirely consistent. You make it very clear that you do not believe Nazi Europa is a primarily nazi region, yet you refer to them as Nazis throughout the proposal. The word "Nazi" has an extremely negative connotation for most people, which is why the groups you refer to as "Nazi Forces" throughout the proposal don't usually call themselves that. No one is going to approve of a proposal that explicitly states it is trying to help Nazis.
Recognizing the dozens of Nazi regions that the left-wing community has refounded as hollow trophy regions because of the previously mentioned feud;

Believing that The NSIA should be properly preserved by Nazi forces because of its historical significance;

This is the sort of claim that requires an explanation to back it up. Why is it historically significant? I'm not saying it isn't, I'm just saying that an explation is necessary.
Acknowledging the imminent risk of the left-wing community refounding The NSIA into a blank trophy region;

Disappointed that the left-wing community wishes to obliterate the history of The NSIA and prevent it from becoming a historical region by using SC #207 to refound the region;

They're actually using SC207 to invade the region, not refound it.
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Hayeri
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Postby Hayeri » Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:40 pm

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
Ala-Guorkar wrote:The Security Council,

Recognizing the bitter feud between the left-wing community and the Nazi community;

Noting that the region Nazi Europa, the main Nazi force currently protecting The NSIA, is not centered in Nazi beliefs and propaganda;

Starting off with some snark: "currently protecting" isn't exactly accurate. :P

On to an actual criticism: A major problem with this draft is that it isn't entirely consistent. You make it very clear that you do not believe Nazi Europa is a primarily nazi region, yet you refer to them as Nazis throughout the proposal. The word "Nazi" has an extremely negative connotation for most people, which is why the groups you refer to as "Nazi Forces" throughout the proposal don't usually call themselves that. No one is going to approve of a proposal that explicitly states it is trying to help Nazis.
Recognizing the dozens of Nazi regions that the left-wing community has refounded as hollow trophy regions because of the previously mentioned feud;

Believing that The NSIA should be properly preserved by Nazi forces because of its historical significance;

This is the sort of claim that requires an explanation to back it up. Why is it historically significant? I'm not saying it isn't, I'm just saying that an explation is necessary.
Acknowledging the imminent risk of the left-wing community refounding The NSIA into a blank trophy region;

Disappointed that the left-wing community wishes to obliterate the history of The NSIA and prevent it from becoming a historical region by using SC #207 to refound the region;

They're actually using SC207 to invade the region, not refound it.


Well, nice explanation, "Non-NSA!" Way better than I can do!
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