[PULLED] Liberate Mediterranean

[Cormactopia II]

Liberate Mediterranean
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.

Category: Liberation | Nominee (region): Mediterranean | Proposed by: Cormactopia II

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Description: The Security Council:

Recognizing that Mediterranean has been invaded by the joint forces of HYDRA Command and The Black Hawks, invader regions known for barring free entry to regions under their occupation for the purpose of seizing permanent control;

Acknowledging, however, that HYDRA Command and The Black Hawks have recently turned over a new leaf, with We Are Not the NSA and Ever-Wandering Souls, prominent nations in the leadership of both regions, expressing deep concern for preserving the integrity of this Security Council and abiding by the wishes of regional native nations;

Reaffirming that the primary aim of this Security Council is to spread interregional peace and goodwill, via force if necessary, and that the invasion of Mediterranean is in conflict with this paramount mission, undermines the integrity of this Security Council, and is opposed by the nations native to Mediterranean;

Encouraging HYDRA Command and The Black Hawks to continue charting a course of consistent moderation and abandonment of the bond of unity between invader regions, by taking up their true calling to assist in defending and liberating regions threatened with invasion; and

Seeking to save HYDRA Command and The Black Hawks from the temptation to revert to the fearsome tactics they once used so that they may continue down the path of becoming respectable good neighbors, admired and praised by defender regions and nations and by the nations native to vulnerable regions, as they have been in recent times;

Hereby Liberates Mediterranean.

[Boghorn]

Not a fan of the praise this proposal gives to HYDRA Command and The Black Hawks. It makes it seem like two different people wrote this.

[Roavin]

So, it doesn't break any SC rules as far as I can see.

Onto the semantics: This is basically a full troll mode response to We are not the NSA and Ever-Wandering Souls not supporting Liberate Social Liberal Union, because it makes a mockery of the SC, so Cormac chooses to ... submit a proposal making a mockery of the SC.

I would guess that the delegate of a raider region mocking two high-profile raiders in such a public way is actually much more detrimental to raider unity than just respecting the sanctity of the Security Council ... but what do I know, I'm just a stupid 'fenda.

[Cormactopia II]

I would guess that the delegate of a raider region mocking two high-profile raiders in such a public way is actually much more detrimental to raider unity than just respecting the sanctity of the Security Council ... but what do I know, I'm just a stupid 'fenda.

Raider unity is dead; Souls and NSA have spent months ensuring that. This is just the retaliation that I've patiently declined to initiate for months, hoping they would stop disrupting raider unity and tearing down other raider regions to build up their own. Unfortunately, they haven't stopped; they always just escalate. They've demonstrated mind boggling disrespect for their fellow raiders over the past few months.

My hope is that this proposal, whether it passes or not, will be a wake-up call to both HYDRA Command and The Black Hawks, but especially The Black Hawks. Souls has flushed the legacy and reputation of The Black Hawks down the toilet; no one sees them as "The Most Feared Military Organization in NationStates" anymore, or even remotely close to it. They're more like a slightly edgier hybrid of Europeia and the Cat Burglars.

[Boghorn]

I would guess that the delegate of a raider region mocking two high-profile raiders in such a public way is actually much more detrimental to raider unity than just respecting the sanctity of the Security Council ... but what do I know, I'm just a stupid 'fenda.

Raider unity is dead; Souls and NSA have spent months ensuring that. This is just the retaliation that I've patiently declined to initiate for months, hoping they would stop disrupting raider unity and tearing down other raider regions to build up their own. Unfortunately, they haven't stopped; they always just escalate. They've demonstrated mind boggling disrespect for their fellow raiders over the past few months.

My hope is that this proposal, whether it passes or not, will be a wake-up call to both HYDRA Command and The Black Hawks, but especially The Black Hawks. Souls has flushed the legacy and reputation of The Black Hawks down the toilet; no one sees them as "The Most Feared Military Organization in NationStates" anymore, or even remotely close to it. They're more like a slightly edgier hybrid of Europeia and the Cat Burglars.

As far as I'm concerned, the raider regions devolving into squabbling disorganized mess is a good thing.

[Roavin]

Raider unity is dead

It is?

Let's take two current raids plus a recently ended occupation:
Mediterranean
Mahtomedi
Stadium of Light

The set of raider regions involved, just judging from the WFE, is:

• The Black Hawks
• HYDRA
• The West Pacific
• Lone Wolves United
• Arda en Estel
• Firehelm
• The Invaders
• Osiris

That's 8 regions (7 raider, 1 raider-leaning independent), spread across 3 raids. Ironically, it also includes The Invaders and - Osiris, your dear home region.

Doesn't look dead to me. But, again, what do I know - I'm just a stupid 'fenda.

[Eluvatar]

What's so terrible about the Cat Burglars?

[Drasnia]

Raider unity is dead

It is?

Let's take two current raids plus a recently ended occupation:
Mediterranean
Mahtomedi
Stadium of Light

The set of raider regions involved, just judging from the WFE, is:

• The Black Hawks
• HYDRA
• The West Pacific
• Lone Wolves United
• Arda en Estel
• Firehelm
• The Invaders
• Osiris

That's 8 regions (7 raider, 1 raider-leaning independent), spread across 3 raids. Ironically, it also includes The Invaders and - Osiris, your dear home region.

Doesn't look dead to me. But, again, what do I know - I'm just a stupid 'fenda.

Get rekt m8.

It seems the only person who is trying to destroy 'raider unity' is you, Cormac. Submitting spiteful resolutions doesn't exactly beget good relations, methinks.

[Jakker]

Contrary to what people may think, raider unity is not this object that anyone can steal for a moment and claim ownership over deciding its presence in the game.

Now now, Cormac, we both know you just want me to get more active in NS again, so you can see my moves all over. There was no need to seduce me like this. Could have just asked.

[Cormactopia II]

That's 8 regions (7 raider, 1 raider-leaning independent), spread across 3 raids. Ironically, it also includes The Invaders and - Osiris, your dear home region.

Doesn't look dead to me. But, again, what do I know - I'm just a stupid 'fenda.

And yet you will not find several of those regions on the same WFE, because there are either loudly public or quiet internal policies against several raider regions working with several other raider regions. Almost all of this has been instigated by Souls and NSA, for the purpose of: a) pursuing their petty vendetta against Knot; b) ensuring that they maintain a strong enough public image for moderate regions to associate with; and c) building up their own regions at the expense of other raider regions.

What's so terrible about the Cat Burglars?

Nothing, from your perspective. Everything, from mine.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

.... Europeia and the Cat Burglars.

Best band name ever!

[Eluvatar]

What's so terrible about the Cat Burglars?

Nothing, from your perspective. Everything, from mine.

So... it's wrong not to remove nations from their own regions?

[Egnatia]

I am Egnatia, the lawful World Assembly delegate of Mediterranean. Before the invasion, my name was mentioned on the region's World Factbook Entry with a notice saying that all WA nations should endorse me; all natives will probably remember that, so they can vouch for me. I am currently the delegate of Mediterranean League, the region to which our official government (or what's left of it) has fled. I am concerned that a liberation would prevent us from installing a password once/if we regain control of our region. I am also concerned that the defenders who propose this liberation are supporting San Lumen, who is not the lawful delegate of the region, as that position was afforded to me via constitutionally valid elections and with the approval of our now CTE founder, Nova-roma, along with the position of Minister of Internal Affairs of the region. While I personally hold no ill feelings against the current delegate, in fact I consider him somewhat of a friend, I must stress that his incumbency is illegitimate, unconstitutional and illegal, as were his actions which inhibited the legitimate decision of the region's natives to relocate to the new region, which was expressed via a democratic poll, leading to our disorganised state which left us open to invasion. Until these concerns are addressed I cannot and will not support this liberation and I urge all regions who respect the freedom of their natives to follow suit.

[Cormactopia II]

Nothing, from your perspective. Everything, from mine.

So... it's wrong not to remove nations from their own regions?

"Wrong"? No. Depressing? Very.

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If you're moving to a new region anyway, why do you care whether this region is liberated? You aren't native anymore if you're relocating to another region. Oy vey, a raider trying to liberate a raided region, a "native" opposing it. What is this world coming to?

[Boghorn]

Regardless of whether the region deserves to be liberated or not, this proposal is more of a thinly veiled insult than anything else.

[Egnatia]

If you're moving to a new region anyway, why do you care whether this region is liberated? You aren't native anymore if you're relocating to another region. Oy vey, a raider trying to liberate a raided region, a "native" opposing it. What is this world coming to?

Because it is the democratic wish of our natives that we move to a new region and keep the old one password protected in case our founder returns. We were in the midst of the relocation process when we were invaded and, being the delegate, I led the relocation. If you're not helping our region's natives then exactly what are you doing in our region? You can ask the WAD the defenders are supporting in case you don't believe I am a native and the legitimate delegate. I am concerned as to what your interest in our region is in the first place; you were not invited by anyone and as far as I am concerned, you're as much as of an invader as HYDRA.

[McManniaa]

If you're moving to a new region anyway, why do you care whether this region is liberated? You aren't native anymore if you're relocating to another region. Oy vey, a raider trying to liberate a raided region, a "native" opposing it. What is this world coming to?

The only thing its come to is cormac pretending to care about the natives of a region in a thinly veiled attempt at hurling insults at people. Its kind of pathetic to be honest. If you want to hurl insults at someone, hurl an insult. Dont do it through a snarky SC proposal that the natives of the region aren't even in full support of, in an attempt to fight someone elses battles for them.

[Flanderlion]

Full support. Good proposal. And I'm glad to see the SC active.

[Cormactopia II]

I have requested by GHR that this proposal be pulled from the queue.

[Klaus Devestatorie]

I would guess that the delegate of a raider region mocking two high-profile raiders in such a public way is actually much more detrimental to raider unity than just respecting the sanctity of the Security Council ... but what do I know, I'm just a stupid 'fenda.

Raider unity is dead; Souls and NSA have spent months ensuring that. This is just the retaliation that I've patiently declined to initiate for months, hoping they would stop disrupting raider unity and tearing down other raider regions to build up their own. Unfortunately, they haven't stopped; they always just escalate. They've demonstrated mind boggling disrespect for their fellow raiders over the past few months.

My hope is that this proposal, whether it passes or not, will be a wake-up call to both HYDRA Command and The Black Hawks, but especially The Black Hawks. Souls has flushed the legacy and reputation of The Black Hawks down the toilet; no one sees them as "The Most Feared Military Organization in NationStates" anymore, or even remotely close to it. They're more like a slightly edgier hybrid of Europeia and the Cat Burglars.

You're going to have to give us an awful lot of back story to explain how you wound up deciding that EWS and NSA of all people are "responsible for the death of raider unity".