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[Submitted] Repeal "Condemn Lone Wolves United"

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[Submitted] Repeal "Condemn Lone Wolves United"

Postby We Are Not the NSA » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:59 pm

Lands of Anarchy wrote:Someone makes a change to stop being a raider region, then wants to be commended for it. Your reward for not being a raider region is not being condemned.

I don't support this.

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The Stalker wrote:So, is this some odd joke? Cause I don't get it.

It's just an attempt at trolling. They aren't switching sides and even if they were, several days of switching sides is not a good reason for a commendation. They should repeal their condemnation first.

Apatheism wrote:The nation of Apatheism might support a repeal at this point, but a commendation is far too ambitious.

The World Assembly,

Contemplating that the name “Lone Wolves United” is an amusing paradox,

Acknowledges that the Lone Wolves United, otherwise known as the LWU, were one of the oldest and most influential raider regions in NationStates, who were condemned in 2011 for raiding several regions,

Reporting that after a recent revolution, led by Alpha Emeritus Scardino, the LWU has switched sides and declared itself a defender organization,

Delighted to find that the LWU has followed through with their claims by cutting relations with, and compromising the operational security of, over seven major raider organizations,

Noting the critical damage that these actions have dealt to these raider regions, who were blindsided by the LWU’s surprise attack,

Relieved that several major raider operations were thwarted due to LWU’s actions, including:

Thankful that the LWU has selflessly sacrificed it’s long held reputation as an elite raider hunting pack in order to save these poor defenseless regions from the Darkspawn scourge,

Concluding that the LWU feels regret for the actions mentioned in SC #74, and that they are currently attempting to make up for these sins,

Realizing that, in hind sight, raiding Anarchy is not really a Condemnable action, since it is so easy and it happens all the time,

Pointing outthat the region’s founder, Evil Wolf, has previously been commended by this council in SC #169 “Commend Evil Wolf”,

Believing that while they still have a long way to go, the Lone Wolves United have proven themselves to be productive members of society, and a menace to raiders across NationStates,

Deciding that these actions have made up for the LWU’s previous mistakes,

Hereby Repeals SC #74 Condemn Lone Wolves United.


Also, yes, I'm aware of the typos. There are at least two.

It's not like the Security Council is doing anything else right now :3

Also, I'm not going to campaign at all for this.
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Postby Voxin Cariba » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:24 pm

I think LWU deserve to be forgiven for his past actions. I am proud to be the first delegate who approve this repealing

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Postby Europe and Oceania » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:27 am

Full support comrade.

However, we believe a good commendation should be written after this repeal.
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Postby Europe and Oceania » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:28 am

Oh and please do a commendation for the badass Black Hawks.
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Postby Shizensky » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:48 am

Oh we're still doing this?
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Postby Europe and Oceania » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:18 am

Shizensky wrote:Oh we're still doing this?


Yes.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:42 am

Shizensky wrote:Oh we're still doing this?

Since LWU has given up the ways of raiderdom, imho they no longer deserve their badge of honour. So yes.
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Postby Shizensky » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:36 pm

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
Shizensky wrote:Oh we're still doing this?

Since LWU has given up the ways of raiderdom, imho they no longer deserve their badge of honour. So yes.

What's the over/under of this one having a better approval rate of 1:5? Personally, I think it stands a chance of going at least 1:4.
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Postby Queen Yuno » Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:17 am

This is very well written ☆_☆
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Postby Louisistan » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:04 am

We Are Not the NSA wrote:And The Chaos Brigade’s half finished takeover of 10000 Islands

Are you hallucinating?

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:08 am

A very well written repeal NSA up to your usual high standards (even though, as you pointed out, there are a couple of typos). The line about Anarchy made me chuckle as did the wholly fictitious coups and takeovers that LWU have prevented.
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Postby Yodle » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:21 am

If this planned coup by HYDRA Command actually was a thing, even fictitiously, why would you be relieved that it was thwarted? XD
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Postby Louisistan » Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:27 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:up to your usual high standards
So his usual high standards do not include not making up stuff? You'd think it would.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:41 am

Louisistan wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:up to your usual high standards
So his usual high standards do not include not making up stuff? You'd think it would.

NSA has written a number of SC proposals. They read well, contain no illegalities and a couple have been successful.

Making stuff up is not actually illegal under SC rules; the Mods have said they're not going to fact check every proposal that comes to the floor. It's up to the WA members and delegates to determine the veracity of any claims in a proposal.

I think NSA has done a good job, especially when you consider his tongue was embedded firmly in his cheek when he drafted it.
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Postby Louisistan » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:53 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Making stuff up is not actually illegal under SC rules;

I did not say it was. Personally though, I don't consider standards high if they don't include something along the lines of "don't lie". But maybe that's just me.
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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:50 am

I would like to hear more about this so called planned coup of The East Pacific. It sounds like something that I would have heard about given my ties with TEP's government.
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Lord Ravenclaw wrote:I would like to hear more about this so called planned coup of The East Pacific. It sounds like something that I would have heard about given my ties with TEP's government.

Was a totally serious plot which involved adding defenders, members of TEP etc. to the planning chat and using 10KI as the jump point. Think a few people took it the wrong way, but you'll have to wait until someone who was there to chime in. Beginning of July I think this year.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:36 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:A very well written repeal NSA up to your usual high standards (even though, as you pointed out, there are a couple of typos). The line about Anarchy made me chuckle as did the wholly fictitious coups and takeovers that LWU have prevented.

Danke. I was focusing more on the content than on spelling and stuff, which is probably why I didn't notice those. :D
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We Are Not the NSA wrote:And The Chaos Brigade’s half finished takeover of 10000 Islands

Are you hallucinating?

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I'd like to say no, but the cyborg Theodore Roosevelt sitting on my giraffe is making me suspicious.
Yodle wrote:If this planned coup by HYDRA Command actually was a thing, even fictitiously, why would you be relieved that it was thwarted? XD

Well, I'm not, but since my opinion does not match that of a majority of the WA, and noting my own opinion would be an R4d violation, I'll stick with it.
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Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:up to your usual high standards
So his usual high standards do not include not making up stuff? You'd think it would.

What's with the double negative? Could've just said "So his usual high standards include making up stuff?". :P
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Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Making stuff up is not actually illegal under SC rules;

I did not say it was. Personally though, I don't consider standards high if they don't include something along the lines of "don't lie". But maybe that's just me.

I agree, it's dumb that lying is legal. It's also fun. :3
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:57 pm

We really don't need to go through this all over again.
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Postby Galiagolach » Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:05 pm

I dunno. I just looked at their WFE and RMB, and they don't strike me as a region which has switched sides for good. I won't support this in its current state until I get some actual, concrete evidence that they prevented raids or took part in liberations.

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:09 pm

Also, LWU is back to being an invader region, so there really isn't even a snowball's chance in hell of this passing.
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Postby Yodle » Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:58 pm

Wallenburg wrote:Also, LWU is back to being an invader region, so there really isn't even a snowball's chance in hell of this passing.

You'd be surprised how easily the voters will just follow along with something like this without fact checking...
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:47 pm

Wallenburg wrote:Also, LWU is back to being an invader region, so there really isn't even a snowball's chance in hell of this passing.

What made you think I expect, and/or want this to pass?
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Postby Yodle » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:06 pm

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Also, LWU is back to being an invader region, so there really isn't even a snowball's chance in hell of this passing.

What made you think I expect, and/or want this to pass?

The fact that you wrote it in the first place :p
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:56 pm

Yodle wrote:
We Are Not the NSA wrote:What made you think I expect, and/or want this to pass?

The fact that you wrote it in the first place :p

And submitted it.
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