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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:35 pm

The Lanthanides wrote:So does anyone object to (a) the s***tiness or (b) the premise of this resolution

Yes.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:41 pm

The Lanthanides wrote:So does anyone object to (a) the s***tiness or (b) the premise of this resolution, or should I submit?

Yup.
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Postby The Lanthanides » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:56 pm

Kenny, your input is appreciated. Not. Wallenburg, is that a "yes" to the first part or the second?
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:02 pm

The Lanthanides wrote:Kenny, your input is appreciated. Not. Wallenburg, is that a "yes" to the first part or the second?

Yes.

(the first)
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Postby The Lanthanides » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:19 pm

Proposal or premise?
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Postby Unibot III » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:24 am

I would have never guessed "Condemn Omigodtheykilledkenny" would become the most contested resolution I ever wrote. I mean, I wrote "Ethics in International Trade" for christ's sake. Think of the Dolphins!
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Postby The Lanthanides » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:02 pm

Unibot, I am thinking of the dolphins now. I have changed my approach from repealing his condemnation to commending him for his good actions while keeping his condemnation for the shady stuff. What do you think of my Commend proposal?
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Postby Wrapper » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:12 pm

The Lanthanides wrote:Unibot, I am thinking of the dolphins now. I have changed my approach from repealing his condemnation to commending him for his good actions while keeping his condemnation for the shady stuff. What do you think of my Commend proposal?

Oh, that part. That you should do.

Your thoughts betray you, Kenny. I feel the good in you, the conflict.... :ugeek:

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Postby The Lanthanides » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:07 pm

Wrapper, your support is appreciated.
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Postby The Lanthanides » Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:17 pm

Sorry to double-post, but I just wanted to inform y'all that I'm posing this proposal to the SC right now.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:48 pm

The Lanthanides wrote:Sorry to double-post, but I just wanted to inform y'all that I'm posing this proposal to the SC right now.

No you're not. You're posting one of the worst commendations I've ever seen to the SC.
NOTING that the resolution, “Condemn Omigodtheykilledkenny”, was passed on 10 Mar 2010 by an overwhelming margin,

Why even bring up the condemnation if you do nothing later on to dismiss it?
REALIZING that The Mysterion Rising of Omigodtheykilledkenny has employed the Creative Solutions Agency to pursue loopholes to General Assembly (GA) resolutions,

BELIEVING that this exploitation of GA-specific loopholes continues to be a condemnable action,

Why on earth would you talk about reasons to condemn him in a commendation?
UNDERSTANDING that nations can be (and have been) in possession of both a Condemnation and a Condemnation,

I hope you have a good lawyer. This is a blatant rip off of my argument from Commend The Black Riders, and everyone knows it. >:( (jk)
FURTHER believing that despite the weirdness of this situation, a nation of the likes of Omigodtheykilledkenny is perhaps the most deserving of both,

Okay... Mind telling us why? Because in its current form, you follow up the statement of "maybe we should commend him" with...
NOTING with disapproval the various dolphin-killing actions of Omigodtheykilledkenny taken throughout the nation’s long history,

POINTING out that such dolphin-killing actions have already received their own condemnation,

Reasons to condemn him, oops he's already condemned. :roll:
NOTING with approval the archive of past passed General Assembly resolutions that the nation Omigodtheykilledkenny has diligently maintained for seven years, from 29 April 2009 to 6 January 2016,

I don't mean to disrespect Kenny for this, because I do respect him, but I have to question how this is grounds for commendation? Is it really that hard? (<-- serious question btw, Kenny could you answer pls? :) )
VIEWING with appreciation the resolutions Omigodtheykilledkenny has successfully promulgated over the lifespan of this World Assembly, including GA #8, #17, #30, and #313,

Promulgate, if I understand correctly, means spreading, teaching or announcing (a decree or law), not writing one.
ACKNOWLEDGING that although Omigodtheykilledkenny has committed condemnable acts in the past, Omigodtheykilledkenny has greatly contributed to this Assembly as a whole,

Wait wait wait... is that it? This "commendation" has 5 listed reasons to condemn him and 2 listed reasons to commend him.
1. COMMENDS Omigodtheykilledkenny.

Why is there a 1?
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Postby The Lanthanides » Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:21 pm

We Are Not the NSA wrote:No you're not. You're posting one of the worst commendations I've ever seen to the SC.


I'm sorry, but after I revised and made it a Commendation, there wasn't much brouhaha about it until now. I know using a "court-of-public-opinion" argument isn't great, but the people that said to go for it can't ALL be crazy... can they be?

We Are Not the NSA wrote:Why even bring up the condemnation if you do nothing later on to dismiss it?


The intent isn't to dismiss the Condemnation. It's to Commend a nation that has been Condemned (an interesting circumstance that warrants full explanation of his situation). The original title for this thread was "Repeal 'Condemn Omigodtheykilledkenny'". There was much objection to the very thought that this was even being proposed again, especially by me. Especially since Kenny nearly blew up the Security Council when I tried that last time.

We Are Not the NSA wrote:Why on earth would you talk about reasons to condemn him in a commendation?


This is a unique circumstance, since Kenny has already been condemned. I am stating that, in spite of all of these condemnable actions, Kenny deserves a Commendation for the other two things.

We Are Not the NSA wrote:I hope you have a good lawyer. This is a blatant rip off of my argument from Commend The Black Riders, and everyone knows it. >:( (jk)


I wish. It was actually Mousebumples's idea:
Mousebumples wrote:Who says you have to repeal his Condemn in order to give him a Commend? *evil grin*



We Are Not the NSA wrote:Okay... Mind telling us why? Because in its current form, you follow up the statement of "maybe we should commend him" with...
NOTING with disapproval the various dolphin-killing actions of Omigodtheykilledkenny taken throughout the nation’s long history,

POINTING out that such dolphin-killing actions have already received their own condemnation,

Reasons to condemn him, oops he's already condemned. :roll:


Indeed, you have a point that maybe I should've moved those clauses before the turn on the reso. But I didn't catch it. For that, I apologize. I merely hope that you may forgive me on that one and not let it sway your vote. It seems other stuff already has.

We Are Not the NSA wrote:I don't mean to disrespect Kenny for this, because I do respect him, but I have to question how this is grounds for commendation? Is it really that hard? (<-- serious question btw, Kenny could you answer pls? :) )


Let the record show that Kenny has threatened to blow up the Security Council if this proposal comes to fruition. :twisted:

We Are Not the NSA wrote:Promulgate, if I understand correctly, means spreading, teaching or announcing (a decree or law), not writing one.


OK; perhaps this was a stretch of word choice. But he was technically spreading that legislation, in a sense... :D

We Are Not the NSA wrote:Wait wait wait... is that it? This "commendation" has 5 listed reasons to condemn him and 2 listed reasons to commend him.


I actually count 2 and 2: on Condemnation, the CSA and dolphin-killing; on Commendation, the WA archive and his passed resos. Your point is heard.

We Are Not the NSA wrote:Why is there a 1?


Because that clause is operative, and operative clauses are numbered?
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Postby Wrapper » Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:54 pm

The Lanthanides wrote:Wrapper, your support is appreciated.

Well, I support the idea in theory, just because I'd like to see him try to blow up the Security Council. I don't support this draft at all. There's absolutely nothing here deserving of a commendation, except maybe being the keeper of the passed resolutions thread for so long. That's not nearly enough.

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:44 pm

The Lanthanides wrote:
We Are Not the NSA wrote:I hope you have a good lawyer. This is a blatant rip off of my argument from Commend The Black Riders, and everyone knows it. >:( (jk)


I wish. It was actually Mousebumples's idea:
Mousebumples wrote:Who says you have to repeal his Condemn in order to give him a Commend? *evil grin*

I was referring to the "there is no black or white, just grey" argument I was using in commend TBR, not the idea of commending a condemned region.
We Are Not the NSA wrote:Why is there a 1?


Because that clause is operative, and operative clauses are numbered?

Not in the SC...
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Postby The Lanthanides » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:50 am

We Are Not the NSA wrote:I was referring to the "there is no black or white, just grey" argument I was using in commend TBR, not the idea of commending a condemned region.


I will simply say up front that I meant to steal that idea from Mousebumples, not you. If I stole any idea from you, it was entirely unintentional. Stealing from mice, on the other hand... (I like cheese.)

We Are Not the NSA wrote:Not in the SC...


I didn't know that. Apologies on that front.

OOC: Whenever I've done something for Model UN, I've always numbered operative clauses, even if there's only one of them. Of course the WA has different rules; I simply forgot about this when drafting up this resolution.
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:12 pm

We Are Not the NSA wrote:I don't mean to disrespect Kenny for this, because I do respect him, but I have to question how this is grounds for commendation? Is it really that hard? (<-- serious question btw, Kenny could you answer pls? :) )

Why do you think I gave up ownership of the thread?

At any rate, the author might not be aware that many SC members do not consider managing stickies and writing resolutions to be commendable activities. Moreover, my unpopularity among the GP brass, stemming from my prior roles in several high-profile raids and getting Rule IV implemented, pretty much ensures that any attempt to commend me is dead in the water. (There is a reason that they have already voted down three repeals by hefty margins.)


edit: besides which

... from 29 April 2009 to 6 January 2016,

the dates are wrong.
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Postby The Lanthanides » Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:53 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
edit: besides which the dates are wrong.


What are the correct dates?
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Postby Belschaft » Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:55 pm

Got this via TG to Hileville's nation;
The Lanthanides wrote:Hileville:
I'll admit it. The idea is stupid. But I claim that as a reason to vote yes on this proposal, and let me give you the reason why (OFF the record).
Kenny is a nation that actually LIKES his Condemnation. Kenny has taken deliberate actions to retain his Condemnation because he specifically wants the disdain of the Security Council. As a matter of fact, Kenny's National Security Adviser, Capt. Jenny Chiang, has threatened to allow the Kennyites to blow the Security Council to bits if this proposal comes to vote. But that's exactly the reason why I want this proposal to come to vote.
Indeed, if Kenny blows up the Security Council, it will trigger a series of events ending in what has been prophesized as the N00b-ageddon. The idea behind this proposal is that n00bs would be the primary supporters. (The interesting thing is that it's actually gaining some support from nations like Todd McCloud, which don't meet the definition of n00b in any sense of the word). Only a n00b would reasonably support this proposal. The rest of them understand the significance behind this proposal, which is the potential for blowing up the Security Council, leaving everyone the happier.
Sincerely,
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PS: This is OFF the record. If this is leaked, I will deny every single provision of this telegram. Just FYI.

I've also forwarded this to the other GCR Delegates, just to make sure everyone sees it. I consider this a learning experience for The Lanthanides.
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Postby The Lanthanides » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:05 pm

Belschaft wrote:
The Lanthanides wrote:Hileville:
I'll admit it. The idea is stupid. But I claim that as a reason to vote yes on this proposal, and let me give you the reason why (OFF the record).
Kenny is a nation that actually LIKES his Condemnation. Kenny has taken deliberate actions to retain his Condemnation because he specifically wants the disdain of the Security Council. As a matter of fact, Kenny's National Security Adviser, Capt. Jenny Chiang, has threatened to allow the Kennyites to blow the Security Council to bits if this proposal comes to vote. But that's exactly the reason why I want this proposal to come to vote.
Indeed, if Kenny blows up the Security Council, it will trigger a series of events ending in what has been prophesized as the N00b-ageddon. The idea behind this proposal is that n00bs would be the primary supporters. (The interesting thing is that it's actually gaining some support from nations like Todd McCloud, which don't meet the definition of n00b in any sense of the word). Only a n00b would reasonably support this proposal. The rest of them understand the significance behind this proposal, which is the potential for blowing up the Security Council, leaving everyone the happier.
Sincerely,
Lanthanum Actinium
PS: This is OFF the record. If this is leaked, I will deny every single provision of this telegram. Just FYI.



I did not write this or anything like it. *mic drop*
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Postby Belschaft » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:20 pm

Yes, because I care about you so much I spent a goodly portion of my time writing up a fake telegram from you despite having never talked to you till you TG'd me asking for me to approve this today :roll:
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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:24 pm

Belschaft wrote:Yes, because I care about you so much I spent a goodly portion of my time writing up a fake telegram from you despite having never talked to you till you TG'd me asking for me to approve this today :roll:

People get upset over little shit, and your "evidence" doesn't look very authentic.
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Postby Belschaft » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:26 pm

And when have I ever been known to give a damn about the WA? I just found the "If this is leaked, I will deny everything" part amusing enough to leak it for shits and giggles.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:27 pm

Belschaft wrote:And when have I ever been known to give a damn about the WA? I just found the "If this is leaked, I will deny everything" part amusing enough to leak it for shits and giggles.

Perhaps if you were to screenshot the telegram, I would start to believe you. But anyone can write that load of shit that we are looking at right now.
While she had no regrets about throwing the lever to douse her husband's mistress in molten gold, Blanche did feel a pang of conscience for the innocent bystanders whose proximity had caused them to suffer gilt by association.

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Postby Belschaft » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:39 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Belschaft wrote:And when have I ever been known to give a damn about the WA? I just found the "If this is leaked, I will deny everything" part amusing enough to leak it for shits and giggles.

Perhaps if you were to screenshot the telegram, I would start to believe you. But anyone can write that load of shit that we are looking at right now.

You mean like this?

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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:43 pm

Belschaft wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Perhaps if you were to screenshot the telegram, I would start to believe you. But anyone can write that load of shit that we are looking at right now.

You mean like this?

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Yes, like that. Thank you.
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While she had no regrets about throwing the lever to douse her husband's mistress in molten gold, Blanche did feel a pang of conscience for the innocent bystanders whose proximity had caused them to suffer gilt by association.

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