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Should We Condem DEN?

Postby New Ducklands » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:48 pm

Guys, i'm planning to re-write the propsal to Codemn the Regional-Invaders of DEN. They just invaded a friend of mine's region. We must stop this madness now. Now, please tell me what you think about this so I can plan on even what to write or if I even should write the proposal. But, in a quick list is why I think DEN deserves this. Though I know raiding isn't banned in NS it is looked at as a horrid thing to do.

Why

-Current have taken over 178 Regions
-Has taken over 9 major regions (above 75 nations)
-Is planning to take out Europia in 2 months time (1,000+ nations)
-I do belive the Repel of this act was indeed useless
-They take over 5-10 regions a day (we must save them)
-They have never liberated a region
-They have proposed many WA bills that would Condemn many innocent regions and nations
-(No Official Evidence Yet) I have heard that some nations of DEN have hacked NS accounts unoticed
-(Opinion) idk why but I have never liked there beige flags

So, tell me what you think, and yes this section above sucked but give me YOUR opinion now
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:48 pm

OOC: Wrong Forum.

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Postby New Ducklands » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:49 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: Wrong Forum.

I know I accidentally put this on the wrong forum XP
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:27 pm

Moved.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:14 pm

New Ducklands wrote:Guys, i'm planning to re-write the propsal to Codemn the Regional-Invaders of DEN. They just invaded a friend of mine's region. We must stop this madness now. Now, please tell me what you think about this so I can plan on even what to write or if I even should write the proposal. But, in a quick list is why I think DEN deserves this. Though I know raiding isn't banned in NS it is looked at as a horrid thing to do.

Why

-Current have taken over 178 Regions

That is a blatant lie! We've taken over way more regions than that!
-Has taken over 9 major regions (above 75 nations)
-Is planning to take out Europia in 2 months time (1,000+ nations)

Dafuq are you talking about?
-I do belive the Repel of this act was indeed useless

>:(
-They take over 5-10 regions a day (we must save them)

0-40 is more accurate.
-They have never liberated a region

And neither has 95% of the game. Your point?
-They have proposed many WA bills that would Condemn many innocent regions and nations

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...haha...ha... LIES!
-(No Official Evidence Yet) I have heard that some nations of DEN have hacked NS accounts unoticed

So... Hearsay? If you don't have any evidence, why would you say it?
-(Opinion) idk why but I have never liked there beige flags

... I... I just... Beige? How does one confuse Blue and gold with beige!?!
So, tell me what you think, and yes this section above sucked but give me YOUR opinion now

It did, and idc as long as it is well written.
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Postby New Ducklands » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:31 pm

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
New Ducklands wrote:Guys, i'm planning to re-write the propsal to Codemn the Regional-Invaders of DEN. They just invaded a friend of mine's region. We must stop this madness now. Now, please tell me what you think about this so I can plan on even what to write or if I even should write the proposal. But, in a quick list is why I think DEN deserves this. Though I know raiding isn't banned in NS it is looked at as a horrid thing to do.

Why

-Current have taken over 178 Regions

That is a blatant lie! We've taken over way more regions than that!
-Has taken over 9 major regions (above 75 nations)
-Is planning to take out Europia in 2 months time (1,000+ nations)

Dafuq are you talking about?
-I do belive the Repel of this act was indeed useless

>:(
-They take over 5-10 regions a day (we must save them)

0-40 is more accurate.
-They have never liberated a region

And neither has 95% of the game. Your point?
-They have proposed many WA bills that would Condemn many innocent regions and nations

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...haha...ha... LIES!
-(No Official Evidence Yet) I have heard that some nations of DEN have hacked NS accounts unoticed

So... Hearsay? If you don't have any evidence, why would you say it?
-(Opinion) idk why but I have never liked there beige flags

... I... I just... Beige? How does one confuse Blue and gold with beige!?!
So, tell me what you think, and yes this section above sucked but give me YOUR opinion now

It did, and idc as long as it is well written.

I'm sorry, I wrote this in 5 minutes, the end.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:04 am

New Ducklands wrote:I'm sorry, I wrote this in 5 minutes, the end.

So in other words, you couldn't be bothered to write an actual condemnation, so you just posted a fraudulent piece of anti-DEN propaganda to get people to agree with your position? Most people write the proposal before starting a discussion on it.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:37 am

New Ducklands wrote:-Is planning to take out Europia in 2 months time (1,000+ nations)

First off, you misspelled the name. It's Europeia.

Second off, why would DEN attempt to invade one of their military partners with a delegate that has over 360 endorsements?
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Postby McMasterdonia » Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:09 am

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
New Ducklands wrote:I'm sorry, I wrote this in 5 minutes, the end.

So in other words, you couldn't be bothered to write an actual condemnation, so you just posted a fraudulent piece of anti-DEN propaganda to get people to agree with your position? Most people write the proposal before starting a discussion on it.

Aww man, don't be a hater. All the lies make this proposal way more interesting than it would be otherwise. Leave Europia alone DEN! Stop condemning innocent regions using the Security Council as your personal weapon! :( :(

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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:46 am

Do we really want to condemn The Black Riders again? That is essentially what we'd be doing.
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Postby Siberian Districts » Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:49 am

I'm curious, has anyone ever condemned someone based on a bunch of lies like this one? If can imagine some pretty interesting proposals out there.
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Postby Lectraland » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:41 pm

Yes, we should condemn DEN again. They raided the Plounge Commonwealth for a short time today but we were able to regain control.

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Postby Trick Shot » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:50 pm

Lectraland wrote:Yes, we should condemn DEN again. They raided the Plounge Commonwealth for a short time today but we were able to regain control.

My "give a fuck" level is over 9000 right now. We MUST condemn this HORRIFIC organization for raiding such a LARGE and PROSPEROUS region!
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Postby Ayvari » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:52 pm

Lectraland wrote:Yes, we should condemn DEN again. They raided the Plounge Commonwealth for a short time today but we were able to regain control.

You're complaining because DEN raided one foundered region on a tag run? :p I mean if your region was founderless I could understand your pain, but foundered? A tag run isn't Condemnable, let alone raiding your one little perfectly-capable-of-fixing-the-damage foundered region.

If you want to be safe and you don't have a delegate, make your delegacy non-executive. They won't raid it then.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:59 pm

Lectraland wrote:Yes, we should condemn DEN again. They raided the Plounge Commonwealth for a short time today but we were able to regain control.

It would seem that you could need this.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:11 pm

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
Lectraland wrote:Yes, we should condemn DEN again. They raided the Plounge Commonwealth for a short time today but we were able to regain control.

It would seem that you could need this.

Unfortunately most of the "lets Condemn DEN, dey is ebil raiders" mob won't read it. They'd rather waste our time with their illiterate attempts at a proposal.
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Postby Lectraland » Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:54 pm

I understand regaining control was easy, but they still have raided many regions and should be condemned.

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Postby The Silver Sentinel » Thu Jan 28, 2016 3:08 pm

One has to remember, my comments are that of a defender who tried to liberate the Black Riders.

New Ducklands wrote:-Is planning to take out Europia in 2 months time (1,000+ nations)

You have evidence of this? If so, we are all dying to see it.


New Ducklands wrote:-They take over 5-10 regions a day (we must save them)

No.... They tag regions. There is a big difference.

New Ducklands wrote:-They have never liberated a region

And this is condemnable how? Most of the RP regions out there have never liberated a region, do they get condemned too?

New Ducklands wrote:-They have proposed many WA bills that would Condemn many innocent regions and nations

You are just pulling shit out of you ass here aren't you? You show me where they have done this.

New Ducklands wrote:-(No Official Evidence Yet) I have heard that some nations of DEN have hacked NS accounts unoticed

I assume you have filed a GHR on this? Those are some pretty serious accusations to be making.

New Ducklands wrote:So, tell me what you think, and yes this section above sucked but give me YOUR opinion now

It's a load of horseshit that you are throwing against the wall in hopes that you can get an authorship badge. If you cant devote more than five minutes to do some basic research, let alone draft a decent proposal, quit wasting everyone's time. You have made yourself look foolish for absolutely no reason. Good work.

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:24 pm

Benevolent Thomas wrote:Do we really want to condemn The Black Riders again? That is essentially what we'd be doing.

Fourth time's the charm.
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Postby Naginii » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:45 pm

New Ducklands wrote:Guys, i'm planning to re-write the propsal to Codemn the Regional-Invaders of DEN. They just invaded a friend of mine's region. We must stop this madness now. Now, please tell me what you think about this so I can plan on even what to write or if I even should write the proposal. But, in a quick list is why I think DEN deserves this. Though I know raiding isn't banned in NS it is looked at as a horrid thing to do.

Why

-Current have taken over 178 Regions
-Has taken over 9 major regions (above 75 nations)
-Is planning to take out Europia in 2 months time (1,000+ nations)
-I do belive the Repel of this act was indeed useless
-They take over 5-10 regions a day (we must save them)
-They have never liberated a region
-They have proposed many WA bills that would Condemn many innocent regions and nations
-(No Official Evidence Yet) I have heard that some nations of DEN have hacked NS accounts unoticed
-(Opinion) idk why but I have never liked there beige flags

So, tell me what you think, and yes this section above sucked but give me YOUR opinion now



What do I think? I think you've made a fool of yourself.

Aside from all the obvious points already made by others against the content you hoisted-up as "evidence" to support your propo, let me add this: raiding (and defending) are legal gameplay types. You can hate them, but they're legal. Read the FAQ.

You can go back and rewrite this propo after spending another 10 minutes on it, and maybe get it to pass (maybe), but a condemn badge will have the same effect on raiding as if you did nothing at all. There's nothing the WASC or a condemn effort can do to end raiding/defending.
It's part of the game.

Good luck.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:13 pm

It's worth noting that the OP has spent the last two hours getting both TNP and Euro to go after DEN. 8)

OP is also banned in DEN.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:34 pm

While the author certainly already presents a compelling case, I think it's very important to note that it is very that DEN also kick puppies. Kicking puppies is surely something that would lead the International Community to a widespread condemnation of this villainous entity only known as "DEN". Afterall, if we let them get away with this, 'DEN' who knows what they will do next.
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Postby The Silver Sentinel » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:20 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:While the author certainly already presents a compelling case, I think it's very important to note that it is very that DEN also kick puppies. Kicking puppies is surely something that would lead the International Community to a widespread condemnation of this villainous entity only known as "DEN". Afterall, if we let them get away with this, 'DEN' who knows what they will do next.

I heard they also spray water on cats and scare elephants with mice as well. Truly despicable.

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Postby Wrapper » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:07 am

The Silver Sentinel wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:While the author certainly already presents a compelling case, I think it's very important to note that it is very that DEN also kick puppies. Kicking puppies is surely something that would lead the International Community to a widespread condemnation of this villainous entity only known as "DEN". Afterall, if we let them get away with this, 'DEN' who knows what they will do next.

I heard they also spray water on cats and scare elephants with mice as well. Truly despicable.

That's nothing. I heard they park in the fire lane at the mall.

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Postby Ayvari » Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:21 am

Wrapper wrote:
The Silver Sentinel wrote:I heard they also spray water on cats and scare elephants with mice as well. Truly despicable.

That's nothing. I heard they park in the fire lane at the mall.

The worst part? They cut your TV reception when your favorite show comes on and cut your internet when you try to find an alternate route. Every time.
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