[DRAFT] Repeal SC#56 "Condemn the Greater German Reich"

[Jean Pierre Trudeau]

Repeal "Condemn the Greater German Reich"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal | Resoultion: SC#56 | Proposed by: Jean Pierre Trudeau

The Security Council,

Believing the authoring delegation of Security Council Resolution # 56 "Condemn the Greater German Reich" composed that resolution with the best of intentions,

Acknowledging that the region of The Greater German Reich was a region that was created for the sole purpose of disrupting regions, leftist or otherwise, and have accomplished these goals for years,

Also aware that The Greater German Reich has been fading into obscurity since the fall of Nazi Europe and Right Wing Uprising,

Confident since The Greater German Reich has faded into obscurity, the threat they pose to the international community has significantly diminished,

Further aware that since the delegates of The Pacific's, Lazarus, Osiris, and Balder have instituted public recruiting bans in their regional messages, recruitment for The Greater German Reich has fallen off the scale,

Pleased that the forces of ANTIFA and The Red Fleet have managed to curtail any efforts to establish a foothold in defenseless regions The Greater German Reich may have had,

Unconcerned that The Greater German Reich is an undemocratic region as this is of little interest to the international community,

Believing any attention this region gains, further damages the international community as a whole,

Hereby repeals SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION #56 "Condemn the Greater German Reich".

Mostly co-authored by [nation=short]The Stalker[/nation]

Repeal "Condemn the Greater German Reich"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal | Resoultion: SC#56 | Proposed by: Jean Pierre Trudeau

The Security Council,

Believing the authoring delegation of Security Council Resolution # 56 "Condemn the Greater German Reich" composed that resolution with the best of intentions,

Recognizing the dubious nature of the vile region the the Greater German Reich has had a negative impact on the world at large,

Disappointed that the Greater German Reich has only ever benefited from the notoriety gained from being a condemned region,

Asserting regions of such a hateful ideology shouldn't be recognized in any way by the World Assembly,

Concluding the international community would be better off allowing this region to fade into obscurity,

Hereby repeals SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION #56 "Condemn the Greater German Reich".

Mostly co-authored by [nation=short]The Stalker[/nation]

Al little project The Stalker and myself have been working on for a while. As always comments, concerns, general bitches are always welcome.

[Zenya]

Might wanna change [/url] to [/nation] at the end there :3

I approve.

[Jean Pierre Trudeau]

Might wanna change [/url] to [/nation] at the end there :3

I approve.

Thanks Zenny.

[CreepyCut]

Regarding this proposal,

The region of Sanctum cannot support this proposal in any capacity, as decreed by the Prophet and the Uniting Church of Riftanity:

"The level of achievement needed to either receive recognition in the Security Council is that high that one must actively work towards the Condemnation / Commendation. Stripping people and organisations of these badges of achievement merely on the grounds they like it is the most stupid thing I've seen on this site consistently occurring.

Regardless of if they benefit or not from them - They stand as documentation for achievement. One must aim to gain recognition meaning anyone with a condemn likes it and has it for a reason of gain. Using this thought process no one holding onto a Condemnation should retain it; We shall strip everyone of them. Making Condemnations a moot matter.

Further from that - all someone needs to do is say that voting for this means that you are supportive of not showing the inter-regional community is against Nazis; doing that and majority of this site would be voting against." ~ Prophet Alphonse Silverstorm

We hope you understand.

Sincerely,
Lord Regent Lucius Rosekastell of Sanctum.

[The Stalker]

Personally I don't think Nazi regions and players should be so acknowledged by the WA. Nor do I really think the GGR has earned their Condemnation and was more given to them just for being a Nazi region.

Generally i'm fairly anti-repeal, but i'm rather surprised such a region who hasn't really even earned their condemnation still remains on the books.

I think a lot of the arguments used to justify the repeal of Condemn Nazi Europe and repeal liberate Nazi Europe apply here.

Would Sanctum be more inclined to support the resolution if it was worded differently? Maybe rewording or removing the section about them benefiting from it?

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Also, can anyone spot any rule violations? It apparently got taken down for something, but it's rather unclear why. Which is a bit of a bummer since I know Jean bought stamps for this resolution and it can be costly to keep re-mass telegramming delegates.

[Jean Pierre Trudeau]

Also, can anyone spot any rule violations? It apparently got taken down for something, but it's rather unclear why. Which is a bit of a bummer since I know Jean bought stamps for this resolution and it can be costly to keep re-mass telegramming delegates.[/quote]

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Your repeal did not sufficiently address the content of the resolution it was repealing.

[Arctriul]

I'd back the appeal form sure if it's spine wasn't that they benefit from the condemnation. Once that's gone and its quantity is something else; you'll have my full support.

[Jean Pierre Trudeau]

Alright.... Have created a new draft. Comments would be appreciated.

[Todd McCloud]

"Acknowledging that the region of The Greater German Reich as ..." I assume the the 'as' should be 'was'. Otherwise it reads well. I am interested to see where this one goes- the 'resounding drum' of these types of repeals is that once a region is condemned, they can't have the badge removed due to lack of activity. This one has a bit of a caveat though in that it appeals to those who really wish for the region to be forgotten.

[The Stalker]

True, but I think many only really voted for the Condemnation because they're a Nazi region, not really for what they've done, much was the case for NE as well. This becomes particularly evident when you compare them to other Condemned regions.

[CreepyCut]

Asserting regions of such a hateful ideology shouldn't be recognized in any way by the World Assembly,

Without speaking for my region, just as myself as Lord Rosekastell- is this clause really necessary?

I mean, even though it is "shouldn't" rather than "aren't", I don't think it's necessary to mention that, if there's already a list of actions they've performed; and it's fairly obvious what ideology they support I think, just going by the name alone.

[Arctriul]

The final asserting and concluding statements again seem to diminish the purpose of condemnations. If I can see that gone I'll gladly back this.

[Nodin]

Mostly co-authored by [nation=short]The Stalker[/nation]

It shows.

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Repeal "Condemn the Greater German Reich"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal | Resoultion: SC#56 | Proposed by: Jean Pierre Trudeau

The Security Council,

Believing the authoring delegation of Security Council Resolution # 56 "Condemn the Greater German Reich" composed that resolution with the best of intentions,

Recognizing the dubious nature of the vile region the the Greater German Reich has had a negative impact on the world at large,

Disappointed that the Greater German Reich has only ever benefited from the notoriety gained from being a condemned region,

Asserting regions of such a hateful ideology shouldn't be recognized in any way by the World Assembly,

Concluding the international community would be better off allowing this region to fade into obscurity,

Hereby repeals Security Council Resolution #56 "Condemn the Greater German Reich".

Mostly co-authored by [nation=short]The Stalker[/nation]

Definitely (or defiantly as The Stalker would say) a more honest draft.

Acknowledging that the region of The Greater German Reich as a region that was created for the sole purpose of disrupting regions, leftist or otherwise, and have accomplished these goals for years

I’ve seen better syntax in my shit after I’ve eaten alphabet soup.

Further aware that since the delegates of The Pacific's,

I suppose you’ll never understand how apostrophes work. To form the plural of a proper noun, add s or es. Pacifics doesn’t take an apostrophe.

Also aware that The Greater German Reich has been fading into obscurity since the fall of Nazi Europe and Right Wing Uprising

Brilliant stuff, attributing the alleged decline of The Greater German Reich to the ‘fall’ of an abandoned region with three placeholders, and to the ‘fall’ of a raiding org that was dissolved when one of its three commanders (Serpentura) retired. Third Rome, RWU’s successor, was created following Serp's return to the game.

The Greater German Reich—and all other former RWU members—barely missed a beat invading The International Communist Union after RWU disbanded.

Pleased that the forces of ANTIFA and The Red Fleet have managed to curtail any efforts to establish a foothold in defenseless regions The Greater German Reich may have had

Hahaha

Lucky for you and The Stalker, making a modest piggy bank withdrawal is all it takes to push fiction worthy of a Bulshitzer through the SC these days.

Where were Antifa and TRF when GGR, NE and TFU raided TICU, forcing a permanent pw on the region? TICU population pre-raid: 37. Current population: 7

Oh, that’s right, Antifa and TRF barreled in after we voluntarily vacated TICU a week after it was liberated. The last thing I knew Antifa and TRF did on their own to stop GGR was exposing GGR's sleeper op in flagrantly misandrist Leninist Russia.

No surprise you avoided citing that monstrosity. Find me someone other than a Women Empire misandrist who thinks Antifa and TRF deserve applause for preventing GGR from shutting down a region whose founder’s factbook contains this gem:

Sexual Assault Laws (Sexual Assualt Act 2012)

The definition of sexual assualt in Eastern European Nations is as follows:
"Sexual assualt is defined as a man forcing a woman, through physical intimidation, mental oppression or through the use of force, to engage in sexual relations without her consent"

Women cannot be charged for Sexual Assualt under any circumstance, in which they use force to engage a male in sexual relations without his consent, however; women can be charged for using excessive force to engage in sexual relations with another woman, without the second woman's consent.

No doubt the GGR-NE destruction and refounding of Stalker’s Communist Beach less than two months ago inspired this speshul effort to make the GGR cry.

A TRF puppet was holed up in CB for the longest time. It CTEd when Misley left the game for three months to recover from his fight with Libcom. Antifa and TRF were nowhere in sight when GGR’s Verborgenen Herrn threw The Stalker out of CB on his ear and destroyed his region.

[The Stalker]

Like i've told you before Nodin, Communist Beach was my friend's region. I didn't own it by any means or even hold a position in it's government. You can use the wayback machine to check the previous WFE's for when they did note CB's government for the people who really ran the region.

Besides all you really achieved was relocating the remaining community to The Communist Beach, of which I am a co-founder of, but it's mainly still ran by Daukulis Country as CB was.

TGGR is just Nazi Europa's wing man, nothing more. They hardly stack up against the accomplishments of other condemned regions.

The rest of your rant is equally nonsensical so I really feel no need to address it.

[Jean Pierre Trudeau]

The rest of your rant is equally nonsensical so I really feel no need to address it.

I came to that determination myself as soon as I saw who was posting it.

[Riftey]

Rants - oh joy~

[Jean Pierre Trudeau]

"Acknowledging that the region of The Greater German Reich as ..." I assume the the 'as' should be 'was'. Otherwise it reads well. I am interested to see where this one goes- the 'resounding drum' of these types of repeals is that once a region is condemned, they can't have the badge removed due to lack of activity. This one has a bit of a caveat though in that it appeals to those who really wish for the region to be forgotten.

Done. Appreciate the insight Todd.

Asserting regions of such a hateful ideology shouldn't be recognized in any way by the World Assembly,

Without speaking for my region, just as myself as Lord Rosekastell- is this clause really necessary?

I mean, even though it is "shouldn't" rather than "aren't", I don't think it's necessary to mention that, if there's already a list of actions they've performed; and it's fairly obvious what ideology they support I think, just going by the name alone.

The final asserting and concluding statements again seem to diminish the purpose of condemnations. If I can see that gone I'll gladly back this.

Done, and done.

[Riftey]

Got my support - We'll be voting for.

[Nodin]

Like i've told you before Nodin, Communist Beach was my friend's region. I didn't own it by any means or even hold a position in it's government. You can use the wayback machine to check the previous WFE's for when they did note CB's government for the people who really ran the region.

http://i.imgur.com/qWCGNeF.jpg

No one but you ever TGd Communist Beach WA members in a leadership capacity during the year I was in the region. My sleeper received several TGs from you along the lines of the one I posted. No need to bother with Wayback, I know who controlled CB. Your mod-deleted friend also created Hippiedom, which is what you meant to say in your chain TG to DC, Zutroy and me. You created Hippy Haven as a safe haven for founderless Hippiedom and The Communist Beach almost two years ago for the same purpose.

Along with Trav Khar (created by you), CB enjoyed ‘sister’ status in both hippie regions’ WFEs. You were the only one with the authority to apply that designation.

When CB was ‘accidentally’ raided by the NPO, Zutroy, a CB native since at least 2011, used the embassy communication feature to ask for help on Hippy Haven’s RMB because he knew you controlled the region.

http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=7182817

Your response: http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=7186446

Besides all you really achieved was relocating the remaining community to The Communist Beach, of which I am a co-founder of, but it's mainly still ran by Daukulis Country as CB was.

Run not ran. As DC said in a chain TG to you and my sleeper, he’s loyal to two regions: CB and Hippy Haven. In other words, you hold his leash. You go ahead and pretend your feathers aren't the slightest bit ruffled over being infiltrated and screwed by Nazis. I know better. Hell, you ran to Technical soon as you lost the turd La Bastille to me. Where's my Apocalypse Looms email, waahh! I lost a region to Nazis, waahh!

I’m aware that CB’s remains were buried in The Communist Beach and that you put on a recruitment and region-building show almost immediately after GGR and NE killed CB. You discontinued that business weeks ago when you figured the spotlight was off CB. Facade artist that you are, you started up again after I posted in this thread yesterday.

TGGR is just Nazi Europa's wing man, nothing more. They hardly stack up against the accomplishments of other condemned regions.

I’m here to edit your slop and call you out on your bs not defend GGR’s badge. You should know I don’t give a damn whether or not GGR retains its Condemnation. Snippets of my TGs to you after you told me you intended to use Hell’s delegacy to get a badge. You revealed your real feelings about Nazis and badges during those exchanges. The italicized portions of the snippets are your words that I quoted.

http://i.imgur.com/wyCgKRb.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/b1s04bK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/D8QdvRJ.jpg

The rest of your rant is equally nonsensical so I really feel no need to address it.

The rest of your rant is equally nonsensical so I really feel no need to address it.

I came to that determination myself as soon as I saw who was posting it.

Translation: We’re unable to support our bullshit. We’ve no intention of correcting our shitty grammar and punctuation because it looks perfect to us.

[Jean Pierre Trudeau]

You still complaining Woodhouse? It really is a shame, considering I thought we were friends and all....

[Riftey]

Angry Nazis seem adorable. :3

Come on buddy. Deep breaths. Calm down. Hug it out.

This should pass...and if not as can always mass WA it to ensure it does. I also don't think it needs to be said a liberation of NE will ever pass.

[Nodin]

You still complaining Woodhouse? It really is a shame, considering I thought we were friends and all....

Nothing’s changed, we’re still like peas and carrots. My love for you is carved into Union of Democratic Leftist States’ WFE.

Angry Nazis seem adorable. :3

The notion that I’m angry is almost as stupid as the region-wide TG you sent to TWE when we liberated it from Libertatem.

http://i.imgur.com/J9Y0NnB.jpg

Come on buddy. Deep breaths.

You might want to take your own advice before posting. When you type more than a few words at a time, you typically become unintelligible.

This should pass...and if not as can always mass WA it to ensure it does. I also don't think it needs to be said a liberation of NE will ever pass.

Nazi Europa requires no liberation. Some former Islam members and their allies have approached me to return Islam to them. I'm a real sweetheart, I'd love to do that. I told one guy to contact the folks holding NAZI EUROPE. I said I'd be agreeable to a swap. I've been rethinking the offer. Islam's a whole lot more valuable.

[Riftey]

The telegram was meant to be taken lightly. 'Twas a joke. Alongside being universally disliked Nazi's also have no sense of humor. Pitt. Must be a dull life? :\

You are angry! You're all grumpy and shit! Spewing your bullshit hoping someone listens. In the words of filthy Frank - nobody gives a shit. This is going to recieve support no matter how muxh slander you wish to sking. Know why? No one likes Nazis!

I don't think Islam is more valuable? Know why? Cause no one likes Nazis! X'D

Keep spewing our crap - it's interesting seeing what Nazis do when backed into a corner. It's really sad seeing you so...vulnerable. Want a hug?

[Republic of Minerva]

Absolutely not. Nazis - authentic or otherwise - should be condemned, if not for their many, many raiding trophies they refuse to give up, then for the racist collectivist garbage I see spewing on their RMB 24/7.

[The Stalker]

Oh Woodhouse, with every post you only discredit yourself further. Anyone that buys into your twisted logic is a naive fool.

Along with Trav Khar (created by you), CB enjoyed ‘sister’ status in both hippie regions’ WFEs. You were the only one with the authority to apply that designation.

Communist Beach was designated Hippiedom's Sister region prior to me taking up a leadership role in Hippiedom. When I became the leader of Hippiedom, it didn't suddenly also make me leader of CB. Maybe that's how you Nazis do it, but we never operated that way.

I certainly did care for the region, it is one of Hippiedom's / Hippy Haven's closest allies, but I always held more of an ambassadorial / adviser role there. Over the years I used my influence and connections to help out the community as any good ally would.

As for your other out of context attacks on my character that was more a misguided attempt on my part to appease you and prevent Hell being split in two by you starting up a coup. Course we all know how that turned out.

But none of this really has anything to do with the resolution at hand, so please try to at least stay on topic.