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Condemn the Communist Bloc

Postby The Hooded Republic of Aldor » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:04 am

The Security Council,

Alarmed by the size of The Communist Bloc,

Worried by the enormous power held by this party,

Expecting a future upset of the world by this party,

Deeply disturbed by the moral views and governmental policies of Communists and The Communist Bloc,

Affirming that it is necessary to rein in those who overstep their power,

Emphasizing that the balance of power and the power distribution of the world has tilted far too much to the side of The Communist Bloc,

Disgusted by the guerilla tactics and warring practices of the aggressive Communist Bloc,

Hereby

Orders the liquidation of the region the Communist Bloc,

Prevents the further exploitation of countries and regions outside the Communist Bloc by The Communist Bloc,

Discourages any joining of or association with The Communist Bloc,

And hereby completely condemns the region The Communist Bloc.

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Postby In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:06 am

you cannot ban or condemn based upon ideology.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:44 am

The Hooded Republic of Aldor wrote:The Security Council,

Alarmed by the size of The Communist Bloc,

So we're condemning based on size now?

Worried by the enormous power held by this party,

Expecting a future upset of the world by this party,

First, they aren't a party, they are a region. Second, what exactly are they going to do?

Deeply disturbed by the moral views and governmental policies of Communists and The Communist Bloc,

Can you at least try to explain why their moral views are disturbing? I mean, the arguement "Communists are inherently bad!" is literally one of the most naive beliefs out there, and that seems to be the only actual argument here.

Affirming that it is necessary to rein in those who overstep their power,

Again, how have they overstepped their power? You can't just say something without at least supplying an example.

Emphasizing that the balance of power and the power distribution of the world has tilted far too much to the side of The Communist Bloc,

Again, how? They have a large population, big whoop. By that logic, every GCR deserves a condemnation for having too much power.

Disgusted by the guerilla tactics and warring practices of the aggressive Communist Bloc,

EXAMPLES!!!

Hereby

Orders the liquidation of the region the Communist Bloc,

Completely illegal (R4), does more than just condemn, commend, liberate or repeal.

Prevents the further exploitation of countries and regions outside the Communist Bloc by The Communist Bloc,

Not only illegal, but practicaly impossible. That is the same as saying that a region's ability to raid should be hindered.

Discourages any joining of or association with The Communist Bloc,

I don't know if this is illegal or not, seeing as it doesn't actually do anything.

And hereby completely condemns the region The Communist Bloc.

I'm not sure why the word "completely" is necessary, but this is fine.

This proposal can basically be summed up with the fact that if GA rules applied in the SC, this would be illegal for an ideological ban.

All together, it seems like you are trying to condemn TCB based on their political beliefs, which is something that I cannot support. There isn't a single reason given that makes an actual case for a condemnation besides the whole "Communism is evil" thing you've got going. Frankly, with a little research and decent phrasing a case can be made to condemn any region (not a good case in most, but still), however it seems as if none of the actual research went into this proposal.
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Postby RiderSyl » Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:11 pm

Condemnations are useless.

Opposed to proposal reaching anything.
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Postby Cora II » Sat Jun 13, 2015 3:13 pm

Syl knows. Before condemning Zenya and her RP commies, take a look to The Internationale. There are real commies.

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Postby Klathka » Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:00 pm

1/4 approved. The Communist region has been growing, which is an inherant threat to Capitalists, and especially Royalists such as the ruling dynasty of Klathka. However, liquidation would only lead to a second Communist Bloc, and condemming would lead to the growth of underhanded tactics by the Bloc. Furthermore, "exploitation" is a very broad term. I hereby approve of a policy of containment, keeping the Bloc legal, but informing potential member nations of the risks of joining.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:50 am

Klathka wrote:1/4 approved. The Communist region has been growing, which is an inherant threat to Capitalists, and especially Royalists such as the ruling dynasty of Klathka. However, liquidation would only lead to a second Communist Bloc, and condemming would lead to the growth of underhanded tactics by the Bloc. Furthermore, "exploitation" is a very broad term. I hereby approve of a policy of containment, keeping the Bloc legal, but informing potential member nations of the risks of joining.

You can't do that. Condemnations can only condemn, not do anything else.
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Postby The Mediterranean Republic » Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:58 am

How about no?
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Postby Caracasus » Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:21 am

Klathka wrote:1/4 approved. The Communist region has been growing, which is an inherant threat to Capitalists, and especially Royalists such as the ruling dynasty of Klathka. However, liquidation would only lead to a second Communist Bloc, and condemming would lead to the growth of underhanded tactics by the Bloc. Furthermore, "exploitation" is a very broad term. I hereby approve of a policy of containment, keeping the Bloc legal, but informing potential member nations of the risks of joining.


Sigh.... and the counter-argument is that capitalist regions present a growing threat to communist nations, or that atheistic regions threaten religious regions, or god knows how many other examples. You don't get a free pass to legislate other's ideologies because they disagree with yours.
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Postby Zenya » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:13 pm

For anyone that doesn't know, this was a cute retaliation for him having his RMB privileges revoked by the mods for spamming our RMB using a couple of this puppets, over and over posting "Communists suck" and how we are "bitches" :D
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Postby Sino nations » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:16 pm

The Hooded Republic of Aldor wrote:The Security Council,

Alarmed by the size of The Communist Bloc,

Worried by the enormous power held by this party,

Expecting a future upset of the world by this party,

Deeply disturbed by the moral views and governmental policies of Communists and The Communist Bloc,

Affirming that it is necessary to rein in those who overstep their power,

Emphasizing that the balance of power and the power distribution of the world has tilted far too much to the side of The Communist Bloc,

Disgusted by the guerilla tactics and warring practices of the aggressive Communist Bloc,

Hereby

Orders the liquidation of the region the Communist Bloc,

Prevents the further exploitation of countries and regions outside the Communist Bloc by The Communist Bloc,

Discourages any joining of or association with The Communist Bloc,

And hereby completely condemns the region The Communist Bloc.


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Postby Sino nations » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:18 pm

Klathka wrote:1/4 approved. The Communist region has been growing, which is an inherant threat to Capitalists, and especially Royalists such as the ruling dynasty of Klathka. However, liquidation would only lead to a second Communist Bloc, and condemming would lead to the growth of underhanded tactics by the Bloc. Furthermore, "exploitation" is a very broad term. I hereby approve of a policy of containment, keeping the Bloc legal, but informing potential member nations of the risks of joining.


" The Communist region has been growing, which is an inherant threat to Capitalists, and especially Royalists such as the ruling dynasty"
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Postby Sino nations » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:20 pm

The Hooded Republic of Aldor wrote:The Security Council,

Alarmed by the size of The Communist Bloc,

Worried by the enormous power held by this party,

Expecting a future upset of the world by this party,

Deeply disturbed by the moral views and governmental policies of Communists and The Communist Bloc,

Affirming that it is necessary to rein in those who overstep their power,

Emphasizing that the balance of power and the power distribution of the world has tilted far too much to the side of The Communist Bloc,

Disgusted by the guerilla tactics and warring practices of the aggressive Communist Bloc,

Hereby

Orders the liquidation of the region the Communist Bloc,

Prevents the further exploitation of countries and regions outside the Communist Bloc by The Communist Bloc,

Discourages any joining of or association with The Communist Bloc,

And hereby completely condemns the region The Communist Bloc.

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Postby RiderSyl » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:16 pm

Sino, that's not how the SC works. :eyebrow:
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Postby Unified Gibbons » Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:42 pm

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The Hooded Republic of Aldor wrote:The Security Council,

Alarmed by the size of The Communist Bloc,

So we're condemning based on size now?

Worried by the enormous power held by this party,

Expecting a future upset of the world by this party,

First, they aren't a party, they are a region. Second, what exactly are they going to do?

Deeply disturbed by the moral views and governmental policies of Communists and The Communist Bloc,

Can you at least try to explain why their moral views are disturbing? I mean, the arguement "Communists are inherently bad!" is literally one of the most naive beliefs out there, and that seems to be the only actual argument here.

Affirming that it is necessary to rein in those who overstep their power,

Again, how have they overstepped their power? You can't just say something without at least supplying an example.

Emphasizing that the balance of power and the power distribution of the world has tilted far too much to the side of The Communist Bloc,

Again, how? They have a large population, big whoop. By that logic, every GCR deserves a condemnation for having too much power.

Disgusted by the guerilla tactics and warring practices of the aggressive Communist Bloc,

EXAMPLES!!!

Hereby

Orders the liquidation of the region the Communist Bloc,

Completely illegal (R4), does more than just condemn, commend, liberate or repeal.

Prevents the further exploitation of countries and regions outside the Communist Bloc by The Communist Bloc,

Not only illegal, but practicaly impossible. That is the same as saying that a region's ability to raid should be hindered.

Discourages any joining of or association with The Communist Bloc,

I don't know if this is illegal or not, seeing as it doesn't actually do anything.

And hereby completely condemns the region The Communist Bloc.

I'm not sure why the word "completely" is necessary, but this is fine.

This proposal can basically be summed up with the fact that if GA rules applied in the SC, this would be illegal for an ideological ban.

All together, it seems like you are trying to condemn TCB based on their political beliefs, which is something that I cannot support. There isn't a single reason given that makes an actual case for a condemnation besides the whole "Communism is evil" thing you've got going. Frankly, with a little research and decent phrasing a case can be made to condemn any region (not a good case in most, but still), however it seems as if none of the actual research went into this proposal.

We Are Not The NSA truly roasted the anti-commie. The basis of this condemnation is the same basis of the Cold War: "Big scary commies need to be taken down by us". This is a mockery of the WA. Size and political party almost always have nothing to do with a condemnation, which is an ultimate dishonor meant to be taken seriously.
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Postby Solorni » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:44 pm

I agree, down with the big regions!
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Postby Dutchland-UK-Prussia » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:45 pm

As much as I hate the "Communist" Bloc for being revisionist, no. This is a nuts proposal.
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Postby The Silver Sentinel » Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:49 pm

Solorni wrote:I agree, down with the big regions!


Balder first. *Oh wait! I suppose one has to actually be relevant first*

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Postby Togeria » Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:52 pm

Is this a thing, are you serious?
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Postby The Silver Sentinel » Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:55 pm

Togeria wrote:Is this a thing, are you serious?


The OP was DEAT'd, so I doubt this will gain much traction.

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Postby Togeria » Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:57 pm

True, but the points he brought up was that of just pure ignorance, and sounding as nothing more then him spitting propaganda albeit poor propaganda.
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2nd Russian civil war-indecisive
Parazal Civil War-Support wasn't active militarily
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