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DRAFT: Condemn Unibot

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Krioval
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DRAFT: Condemn Unibot

Postby Krioval » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:41 pm

The Security Council,

NOTING Unibot's zeal for liberating regions, despite the lack of compelling need,

ALARMED that Unibot is working to stifle public debate on liberation proposals,

CONCERNED that the level of secrecy is eroding confidence in the Security Council's function,

DISMAYED that the terms "native" and "liberation" have lost nearly all relevance due to their misuse by this nation,

FURTHER DISMAYED at Unibot's attempts to convert the Security Council into a Star Chamber, replete with unverifiable claims as "evidence",

ALSO NOTING that Unibot has engaged in World Assembly puppetry to promote such proposals as "The Declaration of Masculism Rights" and "WA Doctrine of First Contact", both of which are solutions in search of problems,

CONCERNED that this rogue nation's crusade will disrupt civil communication within the entirety of the World Assembly,

SEEKING to demonstrate that the World Assembly will not fall victim to manipulation by a single nation bent on a destructive agenda,

CONDEMNS Unibot
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Mad Sheep Railgun
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Mad Sheep Railgun » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:49 pm

BEATS Unibot with sticks. Image
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Mad Sheep Railgun
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Postby Mad Sheep Railgun » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:51 pm

Krioval wrote:CONCERNED that the level of secrecy is eroding confidence the Security Council's function,


confidence in the Security Council's function
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Sedgistan
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Postby Sedgistan » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:52 pm

Krioval wrote:CONCERNED that this rogue nation's crusade will disrupt civil communications between raiders and defenders alike,


There's civil communication between raiders and defenders? :blink: I don't think that Unibot - or even the WASC, has had an affect on the level of civility in comunications between defenders & invaders.

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Postby Martyrdoom » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:58 pm

Short, sweet and to the point. Just the way I like them. And your points are entirely justifed imho.

Top proposal Krioval.
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Kalibarr
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Postby Kalibarr » Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:07 pm

Sedgistan wrote:
Krioval wrote:CONCERNED that this rogue nation's crusade will disrupt civil communications between raiders and defenders alike,


There's civil communication between raiders and defenders? :blink: I don't think that Unibot - or even the WASC, has had an affect on the level of civility in comunications between defenders & invaders.



I think he means between their own alignment, not between each other.

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Postby Sedgistan » Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:11 pm

Kalibarr wrote:I think he means between their own alignment, not between each other.


Well there's certainly no evidence of that amongst defenders.

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Krioval
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Postby Krioval » Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:15 pm

Modifications have been made.

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Krioval
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Postby Krioval » Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:48 am

Submitted for test run.

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Sedgistan
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Postby Sedgistan » Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:10 pm

Krioval wrote:SEEKING to demonstrate that the Security Council will not fall victim to manipulation by a single nation bent on a destructive agenda,


What if there's two of us?

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Postby Cinistra » Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:24 pm

Nice try, Krioval. I don't think you will succeed though. Unibot is the clever a manipulator.
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>Can I invade other people's regions?

Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly.
>Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

You can try. Invader Delegates tend to have very little Regional Influence, which makes ejecting long-time residents difficult. But Delegates can be as kind, generous, evil, or despotic as they wish. It's up to regional residents to elect good Delegates.

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Great Brutopia
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Postby Great Brutopia » Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:11 pm

I highly doubt this will pass, but it's a deserving proposal.

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Krioval
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Postby Krioval » Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:04 pm

Sedgistan wrote:
Krioval wrote:SEEKING to demonstrate that the Security Council will not fall victim to manipulation by a single nation bent on a destructive agenda,


What if there's two of us?


Well, I can't very well condemn two nations at the same time, now can I? Though I strongly believe that Unibot's actions, and the refusal to admit the possibility of error in their execution, is especially noteworthy. If there are other nations that you think should also be condemned as co-conspirators, we could discuss them separately.

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Postby Parthenon » Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:38 pm

Although I will not place my endorsement behind it, I support the legislation in spirit.
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Postby Quintessence of Dust » Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:01 pm

Personally, I'd rather he was condemned for this sort of thing.
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Krioval
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Postby Krioval » Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:26 pm

Quintessence of Dust wrote:Personally, I'd rather he was condemned for this sort of thing.


Something to consider, should I draft a new condemnation.

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Postby Khornate Worshippers » Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:34 pm

Good proposal.
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Lavieasta
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Postby Lavieasta » Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:03 am

In the interest of being random I support this proposal.

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Krioval
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Postby Krioval » Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:16 am

Updated to include some proposals debated in "the other chamber".

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Paradoxany
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Postby Paradoxany » Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:09 pm

Guy Lotz glances at the ambassadors with some confusion. Wondering what delusions they suffer from, he rises...

"Ambassadors, I must say, your current pattern of speech disturbs me. It is almost as if you believe Unibot is responsible for the actions of Stash Kroh. I think this insane concept comes from the absurd belief that there is a player behind each nation, and the players behind Stash Kroh and Unibot are the same.

But ambassadors... Surely you don't believe this 'player behind the nation' nonsense?"

Guy Lotz takes one last concerned glance at the ambassadors in the chamber, and then slowly backs to the door, leaving the ambassadors to continue life in their imaginary world.
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Sedgistan
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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:31 pm

Since apparently the whole Security Council is a gameshow, perhaps the same actor plays both Unibot & Stash Kroh?

Also, regarding the proposal, this is what I said a few days ago on TSC's forum, in response to Krioval saying he was "convinced that Unibot is dragging the SC down by passing pointless liberations":

Unibot has been one of the major players in the Security Council, and has written several good resolutions. Liberate The Security Council was good for establishing an IC introduction to the GA-SC split, and demonstrating player support for that split. Liberate Utopia was a good liberation resolution, even if the region was fairly small - but its worked. I wasn't enthusiastic about Liberate Land of the Liberals, but I have to admit that so far - from looking at the region, its turned out extremely well.

The complaints in your resolution are pretty trivial too - I haven't seen any proof of Unibot stifling public debate of liberations, or of this 'secrecy' - that sounds like AMON's conspiracy theories. The terms "native" and "liberation" retain all their old strength, and now have definitions which people can easily check up on. The 'Star Chamber' accusation is similarly lacking in evidence, and its certainly not the generally polite Unibot who is disrupting civil communications in the Security Council. The 'manipulation' accusation is really just an repeating earlier claims, adding an attack for actually daring to use the Security Council. Again, 'destructive agenda' is lacking in any kind of evidence to support that claim.

All in all, your resolution is full of the 'unverifiable claims' which you seek to condemn Unibot for.

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Postby Reseda Island » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:58 pm

I personally think some of the writers of these resolutions are abit out of control, and that some are pitiful attempts at doing something out of vengeance more then the benefit of the region in line for liberation.
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Postby Rolamec » Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:00 pm

Arrr....condemn!
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Postby SC Compliance Ministry » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:17 pm

He seeks to go against the will of the WASC by keeping the badge in the SC, Condemn Him! :D

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Postby Badge Removal Machine » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:21 pm

I was sent there to remove it and he ejected and banned me from the region. Condemn him!

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