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[NEW Draft!] Commend The Black Riders

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Do you support this proposal?

I support it
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36%
I'd support it with some changes (please elaborate)
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I do not support it (please elaborate)
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Total votes : 99

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Postby Ambroscus Koth » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:58 pm

Aurum Rider wrote:EDIT: The verbs at the start of your clauses (I.E Applauding) should be capitalized in true WA style ;)


That's really actually not necessary :P
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:53 am

Aurum Rider wrote:EDIT: The verbs at the start of your clauses (I.E Applauding) should be capitalized in true WA style ;)

Aurum, what do you mean? The verbs are capitalized.
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Postby Ambroscus Koth » Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:07 am

He means that the whole word should be. It's just a style thing, not every author does it obviously.
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Postby Backatri » Sat Apr 11, 2015 6:55 pm

If you are hoping people will go with this joke, you are wrong. I have been raided by those scum before, and if this makes it to vote, I will vote against it. Seriously
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Postby Shogun » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:30 am

Backatri wrote:If you are hoping people will go with this joke, you are wrong. I have been raided by those scum before, and if this makes it to vote, I will vote against it. Seriously


Oh Dear Backatri. When you learn that you are only one to blame we "scums" (Presumably the term for NS-Players who play game differently then people, who are 'right') can raid your region? :kiss:

That is not a joke.
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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:40 am

Backatri wrote:If you are hoping people will go with this joke, you are wrong. I have been raided by those scum before, and if this makes it to vote, I will vote against it. Seriously

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:47 am

Alright, I have a new draft up. Added a clause or two, removed a clause or two, and some mild rephrasing. Comments and concerns would be appreciated :)
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Postby Shogun » Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:58 am

Good. Very good. Would it be possible mention some how that our activity is damn fun too?

...and that TBR has provided "apopolitical" asylum for many haunted artists and free thinkers? ...and maybe line about how we often teach people take better care for their own regions and communities, which strictly speaking isn't activity we are obliged to do, but as gameplayer organisation we also do our part for cultivating people for benefits of whole R/D gameplay sphere.

How to word such points to good clauses, I have no Idea. :)
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:37 am

Shogun wrote:Good. Very good. Would it be possible mention some how that our activity is damn fun too?

...and that TBR has provided "apopolitical" asylum for many haunted artists and free thinkers? ...and maybe line about how we often teach people take better care for their own regions and communities, which strictly speaking isn't activity we are obliged to do, but as gameplayer organisation we also do our part for cultivating people for benefits of whole R/D gameplay sphere.

How to word such points to good clauses, I have no Idea. :)

Can you give examples of the people we give political asylum to?

I had a line (or planned to have one, I don't remember) about how we teach how to secure regions, but it is too hard to say without referring to game mechanics. Plus, I'm trying to cut down on the number of phrases to save space. I settled for the second to last line mentioning increasing interest in regional security. I might add something, but I have to look up the character limit before I start.
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Postby A Colony Of Canadas » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:40 am

Remember, TBR wears condemnations as badges of honor. Condemning them yet again wont help.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:54 am

A Colony Of Canadas wrote:Remember, TBR wears condemnations as badges of honor. Condemning them yet again wont help.

This is a commendation, not a condemnation.
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Postby A Colony Of Canadas » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:02 am

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
A Colony Of Canadas wrote:Remember, TBR wears condemnations as badges of honor. Condemning them yet again wont help.

This is a commendation, not a condemnation.

Well I'm still not seeing how commending them will help anymore than condemning them.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:14 am

A Colony Of Canadas wrote:
We Are Not the NSA wrote:This is a commendation, not a condemnation.

Well I'm still not seeing how commending them will help anymore than condemning them.

What do you mean?
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Postby The Bruce » Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:49 pm

This is starting to get trotted out more than a Security Council resolution to condemn or repeal a condemn on Nazi Europe!

I think that the strategy behind this is similar to a kid continually begging their parents for something, hoping they will finally give in to get a moment's peace. The correct response remains: Go to your room!

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Postby Shogun » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:09 am

@The Bruce: Our room in the mom's (Max Barry) basement is visible and listed here: http://www.nationstates.net/page=region ... ack_riders
Its a total mess. There are almost 1000 others waiting to play with, when writing this comment (987).

Our main toy box is placed in this corner of the room, here: http://www.nationstates.net/region=atheist_empire
where playing has continued now 85 days with group of at least mininum 50 playmates.

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Postby Excidium Planetis » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:09 am

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
A Colony Of Canadas wrote:Remember, TBR wears condemnations as badges of honor. Condemning them yet again wont help.

This is a commendation, not a condemnation.


With any luck, that confusion will work in your favor. It will get to vote and a thousand nations will vote FOR because they think it's a Condemnation.
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Postby The Nazgul Stableboys » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:02 pm

Shogun wrote:@The Bruce: Our room in the mom's (Max Barry) basement is visible and listed here: http://www.nationstates.net/page=region ... ack_riders
Its a total mess. There are almost 1000 others waiting to play with, when writing this comment (987).

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Postby Evir Bruck Saulsbury » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:09 pm

Hmmm, it looks like this Draft needs to be updated to include their most recent community accolade. . .
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:16 pm

It appears that somebody's tried to plagiarize this.
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Postby Nohbdy » Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:28 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:It appears that somebody's tried to plagiarize this.

No, Nohbdy plagiarized anything.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:29 pm

Nohbdy wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:It appears that somebody's tried to plagiarize this.

No, Nohbdy plagiarized anything.

My bad.
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:30 pm

What is the status on this now that TBR is no longer controlled by the raiding group of the same name?
Do you really plan to commend the region for the actions of individuals no longer present in the region?
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Postby The Fair Republic » Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:33 pm

No, what happened recently doesn't mean that TBR past is automatically forgiven. They still invaded helpless regions
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Postby Nohbdy » Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:44 pm

Excidium Planetis wrote:What is the status on this now that TBR is no longer controlled by the raiding group of the same name?
Do you really plan to commend the region for the actions of individuals no longer present in the region?

The only reason I submitted this is to try to keep something to remember TBR. For some, unknown reason, Condemn The Black Riders is being repealed. I don't understand the sudden move to try to erase everything that TBR was. The argument for repealing it is as bad as repealing condemn Macedon. The first Raiders have kept their condemnation, why isn't the most well known? Think of it as a memorial.

Besides, I spent a good 6 hours of work writing this, and and another several researching it, I might as well submit it one last time.

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Postby Excidium Planetis » Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:43 pm

The Fair Republic wrote:No, what happened recently doesn't mean that TBR past is automatically forgiven. They still invaded helpless regions


What? Forgiven for what? What does this have to do with the proposal to Commend The Black Riders for their valuable contributions to gameplay?

My question is, do we still give the region a shiny medal for the actions of people not in the region anymore?

Nohbdy wrote:
Excidium Planetis wrote:What is the status on this now that TBR is no longer controlled by the raiding group of the same name?
Do you really plan to commend the region for the actions of individuals no longer present in the region?

The only reason I submitted this is to try to keep something to remember TBR. For some, unknown reason, Condemn The Black Riders is being repealed. I don't understand the sudden move to try to erase everything that TBR was. The argument for repealing it is as bad as repealing condemn Macedon. The first Raiders have kept their condemnation, why isn't the most well known? Think of it as a memorial.

Besides, I spent a good 6 hours of work writing this, and and another several researching it, I might as well submit it one last time.

(I'm NSA, in case anyone is wondering)


I think that you should have added in a clause that the current leadership of The Black Riders (the region) was instrumental in liberating The Black Riders (the region) from The Black Riders (the raider group). That would get people to vote FOR it.
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