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Jutlogge
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Founded: Oct 26, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Jutlogge » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:41 pm

Nordenwald wrote:Too confusing, I think I'll abstain unless compelling evidence is presented on either side.


I actually agree with you there. There seems to be pros and cons for both sides, and its ultimately just a decision of one's opiniative ideologies.
I'm still confused if repealing the liberaton will help or hurt the ICU's natives.

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Topid
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Postby Topid » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:52 pm

Casting my vote for this because while I don't care, the vote tally of my region was 20-1. As a delegate I suppose I should vote for at that point. :P
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Captain Woodhouse
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Founded: Dec 30, 2011
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Postby Captain Woodhouse » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:28 pm

Republic of Minerva wrote:Don't think so highly of yourself fash, lest your business in CRWN go unimpeded once I am done here.


First time I've been threatened with smooth sailing. Fair winds and following seas to you as well, Minnie.

The Stalker wrote:I don't condone every action done in the name of Antifa.


Yet you've been given keys to the clubhouse, Mr Walrus/Warm Gun. Aye, yours is truly an impartial voice.

The Stalker wrote:I might point out that both MT and Internationale are there as well
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The Stalker wrote:If we were talking about a capitalist leaning region there would be cause for concern.


As if TI and MT never screw their own. For instance, The Union of Nations Against Fascism. In an effort to save some face over being infiltrated and royally duped, both La P and Vip threw legitimate TUNAF comrades under the bus by pretending to believe an obvious joke I told about Nazis founding TUNAF.

It isn't much of a stretch to think North Korea might annex TICU. Does it really make sense to you that NK and company barreled into TICU to take the delegacy rather than endorse the previous WAD and let him take care of business?

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The Stalker
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Postby The Stalker » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:03 pm

Captain Woodhouse wrote:
The Stalker wrote:I don't condone every action done in the name of Antifa.


Yet you've been given keys to the clubhouse, Mr Walrus/Warm Gun. Aye, yours is truly an impartial voice.


Aye, but not nearly as impartial as your voice. You must realize part of the reason i'm in there is because of you. The fact I stood up to you in Hell, and all our little squabbles.

I've spent most of my time as a Delegate, but as Warm Gun I do lead my leftest defender group In the Flesh. Which did provided a troop or two for a few leftest defense missions when Vipper was in charge, a bit limited since we don't raid. Not really in the inner circle if that's what your suggesting.

So I can't claim to speak for Antifa or the current on going mission, but I defiantly don't believe they would betray their friends in The International Communist Union, there is simply no reason to.

At this point it looks like it's going to pass, so we'll just have to see how this plays out.
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Captain Woodhouse
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Postby Captain Woodhouse » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:54 am

The Stalker wrote:Aye, but not nearly as impartial as your voice.


But I’m not pretending to be impartial or conceal my Nazi/fascist affiliation by posting with a communist puppet.

The Stalker wrote:You must realize part of the reason i'm in there is because of you. The fact I stood up to you in Hell, and all our little squabbles.


Hippiedom, before you lost it and long before you had any issues with me: https://web.archive.org/web/20120704124 ... =hippiedom

Anti-fascist tagged and you maintained embassies with most of the big Antifa players, including https://web.archive.org/web/20120625175 ... tendencies.

You don’t align yourself with the ‘Military Zone of The Red Fleet’, dedicated to the extermination of Nazi/fascist regions, unless you’re on board with that objective.

Then there’s Hippiedom’s/Hippy Haven’s sister region, Communist Beach's WFE:

Flying the U.S. imperialist rag is prohibited. To fly the red, white and blue use a Cuban or North Korean flag!


You were an anti-fascist and anti-American crusader years before I negatively critiqued your art in Hell and your performance in the seat. I suppose I can buy off on the notion that my criticism triggered an even more voracious anti-fascist appetite.

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The Stalker
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Postby The Stalker » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:40 am

You speak and all I hear is Nazi propaganda and lies, I think we may be starting to thread jack a little here...

Captain Woodhouse wrote:You don’t align yourself with the ‘Military Zone of The Red Fleet’, dedicated to the extermination of Nazi/fascist regions, unless you’re on board with that objective.


My alignments are fighting you and defending regions from Nazis and other raiders.

Captain Woodhouse wrote:You were an anti-fascist and anti-American crusader years before
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First off years before I was a defender.

And i'm from America, i'm certainly not anti-American even if I dislike our government.

Anyone who knows me, know this, i'm not this crusader your trying to paint me as. That's just a slanderous lie. Just like the lies you told to trick your Nazi friends into raiding Hell. That didn't really work out though did it.

My oldest region Trav Khar is defender region. Hippy Haven has always been against Nazis and had friends among leftest regions, but never really militarily involved till much later. I didn't get involved in anything Antifa till Vipper and our fights, and it was more about refounding your Nazi trophy regions, than anything else. I've never raided. Period. Furthermore I didn't set up CB wfe or flag policy, I don't enforce that policy in any of my regions.

How about we knock off the half truth bs propaganda and get back to the subject at hand.
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Sedgistan
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Postby Sedgistan » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:25 am

Back on topic, please.

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Republic of Minerva
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Founded: Oct 06, 2013
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Postby Republic of Minerva » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:05 am

Very funny.

...anyway,

it looks like this will pass, i guess the public's ignorance once again serves the socialists in the international arena. We'll see if "Comrade" goes up with his promise of giving ICU back to the Fash, I mean Vash.

Of course, if they aren't careful, they could find themselves back at square one. ;)
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Chester Pearson
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Postby Chester Pearson » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:04 pm


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THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION



The North American Union is opposed to any repeal of a liberation, where ANTIFA forces are in control of the region. This is nothing more than a clear attempt by ANTIFA to seize the region and place it under their colonial control, and this will not be tolerated by The Union.

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New Brussels
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Founded: Sep 11, 2014
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Postby New Brussels » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:43 pm

....or perhaps just a simple grudge?
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Bubblekirby
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Postby Bubblekirby » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:36 am

What is ANTIFA?
http://tracker.conquestofabsolution.com/bubblekirby (use this if you want to gauge my power in an rp)
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Nordenwald
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Postby Nordenwald » Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:33 am

Bubblekirby wrote:What is ANTIFA?


"anti-fascist"
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Chester Pearson
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Postby Chester Pearson » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:02 pm

Nordenwald wrote:
Bubblekirby wrote:What is ANTIFA?


"anti-fascist"


He means "ANTI-Fascist-Action"
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Nordenwald
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Postby Nordenwald » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:39 pm

Chester Pearson wrote:
Nordenwald wrote:
"anti-fascist"


He means "ANTI-Fascist-Action"


It makes sense either way, I just assumed ANTI-FAscist.
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