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[CUT] Liberate The Republic of Finland

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[CUT] Liberate The Republic of Finland

Postby Sacarap » Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:56 pm

The Security Council,

Noting; that The Greater German Reich is a known raider organization,

Seeing; that the region, The Republic of Finland could be used by roleplayers, to specifically to roleplay with Finland, enhancing roleplaying abilities to the fullest,

Respects; the right that some nations are neutral in the gameplay stance,

Recognizing; that the Greater German Reich has done nothing with the region for some time, but keeping it to show a sign of strength,

Reaffirming; the World Assembly's stance on keeping regions free and safe,

By Liberating; the region, it may return to roleplayer's hands.

Hereby Liberates The Republic of Finland.


This is one of my first [2nd] proposal, my first which was shot down.

This one was shot down too.
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Postby District XIV » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:05 pm

I'm not seeing the point of this. What roleplayers are going to want to use a region just because it has 'Finland' in it? Are we going to liberate every raider-passworded-one-person region now?

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Postby Sacarap » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:08 pm

District XIV wrote:I'm not seeing the point of this. What roleplayers are going to want to use a region just because it has 'Finland' in it? Are we going to liberate every raider-passworded-one-person region now?

Hm...

I just thought it may have some importance, but I guess not. :c

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Postby District XIV » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:11 pm

Sacarap wrote:
District XIV wrote:I'm not seeing the point of this. What roleplayers are going to want to use a region just because it has 'Finland' in it? Are we going to liberate every raider-passworded-one-person region now?

Hm...

I just thought it may have some importance, but I guess not. :c

Sorry if my comment discouraged you from pursuing other ideas c:

I'll note, however, that [formerly] liberated regions were/are the target of a liberation because they were locked down by raiders and the natives issued outcry over it.

In this case, the above has not happened.

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Postby Republic of Minerva » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:15 pm

I can get on board with this.

Although somewhere in the proposal has to be FINLAAAAND in all caps.
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Postby District XIV » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:17 pm

Republic of Minerva wrote:I can get on board with this.

Why?

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Postby Kingdom of Plembobria » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:19 pm

Here! Here!

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Postby Republic of Minerva » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:19 pm

District XIV wrote:
Republic of Minerva wrote:I can get on board with this.

Why?


Because maybe someone wants to use the name?

Because GGR is a terrible raiding force that shouldn't be given any more quarter than TBR?

Because maybe I was planning on raiding it? Nah just kidding. Sort of.
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Postby District XIV » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:20 pm

Republic of Minerva wrote:
District XIV wrote:Why?


Because maybe someone wants to use the name?

Because GGR is a terrible raiding force that shouldn't be given any more quarter than TBR?

Because maybe I was planning on raiding it? Nah just kidding. Sort of.

Should we liberate every single raider-controlled-passworded-only-has-one-nation-in-it region now?

If so, the list is reeeeaaaaaly long.
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Postby Republic of Minerva » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:23 pm

District XIV wrote:
Republic of Minerva wrote:
Because maybe someone wants to use the name?

Because GGR is a terrible raiding force that shouldn't be given any more quarter than TBR?

Because maybe I was planning on raiding it? Nah just kidding. Sort of.

Should we liberate every single raider-controlled-passworded-only-has-one-nation-in-it region now?

If so, the list is reeeeaaaaaly long.


Perhaps. Only the ones that had a significant native community in the past and/or there are current people who are interested in obtaining the name (probably former natives.)

The thing I want to know is the history of the region before making any judgment calls. Obviously GGR wont just password any region for any reason, so there must be some sort of significance behind it.
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Postby District XIV » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:25 pm

Republic of Minerva wrote:
District XIV wrote:Should we liberate every single raider-controlled-passworded-only-has-one-nation-in-it region now?

If so, the list is reeeeaaaaaly long.


Perhaps. Only the ones that had a significant native community in the past and/or there are current people who are interested in obtaining the name (probably former natives.)

The thing I want to know is the history of the region before making any judgment calls. Obviously GGR wont just password any region for any reason, so there must be some sort of significance behind it.

And how are we going to find out which ones 'had a significant native community in the past' and which ones didn't? You also have to put into perspective how long this would actually take; like, how many liberations would have to be passed. And even then, the founders of those regions are puppets controlled by a higher figure within the raider org, meaning that said puppet could simply be logged into and proceed to ban any incoming nations.

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Postby Publus » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:27 pm

District XIV wrote:
Republic of Minerva wrote:
Because maybe someone wants to use the name?

Because GGR is a terrible raiding force that shouldn't be given any more quarter than TBR?

Because maybe I was planning on raiding it? Nah just kidding. Sort of.

Should we liberate every single raider-controlled-passworded-only-has-one-nation-in-it region now?

If so, the list is reeeeaaaaaly long.


it wouldn't hurt to try, we could attempt to liberate all requested nations, I am all for the liberation of any region, but this needs better wording, perhaps we could even put forth legislation to expedite future such liberations.

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Postby District XIV » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:28 pm

And even then, the founders of those regions are puppets controlled by a higher figure within the raider org, meaning that said puppet could simply be logged into and proceed to ban any incoming nations.

I'm going to emphasize this last part, because I feel the author and their supporters didn't take it into mind.

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Postby Sacarap » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:29 pm

District XIV wrote:
And even then, the founders of those regions are puppets controlled by a higher figure within the raider org, meaning that said puppet could simply be logged into and proceed to ban any incoming nations.

I'm going to emphasize this last part, because I feel the author and their supporters didn't take it into mind.

Oh, I certainly didn't. :\

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Postby Republic of Minerva » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:31 pm

On closer introspection, I won't support this proposal. I for a while I thought it was founderless. And according to NShistory, this region was occupied from at least 2012, destroying any interest from former natives.
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Postby Frattastan II » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:35 am

Liberations have no effect on founder-imposed passwords.
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Postby Sacarap » Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:51 pm

Frattastan II wrote:Liberations have no effect on founder-imposed passwords.

Noted. Thank you :)

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Postby Ukko » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:23 am

Pointless draft all around.

Turhanpäiväinen esitys kaikin puolin.

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