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Cornupication
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Founded: Dec 31, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Cornupication » Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:33 am

McMasterdonia wrote:
Cornupication wrote:I'd like to point out, that the vast majority of past behaviour towards the GCRs were enacted as direct orders from Divair. He is now not around, and TVF is not like VF was. I hope that the regions involved in these past events will realise that the Liberation is completely unneeded.

As President, I will be running a campaign against this web of lies.


As amusing as this liberation is for an outsider, I don't intend to vote for it, simply because it is not a factual liberation and it would have no effect. It may not be relevant to me or others that the individual who lead those campaigns is not around any more, as it does not seem like it occurred that long ago, and as far as I know, no apology was offered.

That said, I will vote against & I wish you luck in your campaign.


Thank you for the well wishes.

On that note, I would apologise myself, however two points pop up that make any apology less meaningful.
One, you've brought it up now. That's akin to a mother receiving a prompted apology from an unruly child: just going through the motions. Secondly, I didn't have a part in the campaign. In fact, I wasn't even around at all for the majority of it.
So, I won't do what RL USA did, and apologise for past events for which I had no involvement. What I can say is that while I am in charge of the region, I will be making sure that such things won't be happening again.

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HMS Unicorn
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Founded: Jun 29, 2005
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Postby HMS Unicorn » Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:50 am

The fact that you did not do it yourself is hardly an excuse. Regions are responsible for the legacy of their past officials, especially one as important as their founder. The leaders of regions represent them in that responsibility. An apology and denouncement of the past by the current members of The Versutian Federation and their leadership would certainly not go amiss, and would go a long way in helping improve the image of your region.

The commitment you made in the campaign telegram you just sent me not to repeat these actions of the past is certainly a step in the right direction.

In any event, as I said earlier I do not intend to support this resolution because of the made up content.
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Cornupication
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Postby Cornupication » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:35 am

HMS Unicorn wrote:The fact that you did not do it yourself is hardly an excuse. Regions are responsible for the legacy of their past officials, especially one as important as their founder. The leaders of regions represent them in that responsibility. An apology and denouncement of the past by the current members of The Versutian Federation and their leadership would certainly not go amiss, and would go a long way in helping improve the image of your region.

The commitment you made in the campaign telegram you just sent me not to repeat these actions of the past is certainly a step in the right direction.

In any event, as I said earlier I do not intend to support this resolution because of the made up content.


You've brought up good points, and I'll certainly take them on board, and heed them during my actions as a government member.

And, it's good to know that you won't be supporting the proposal.

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Desu Reich
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Founded: Dec 30, 2013
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Postby Desu Reich » Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:51 am

Leningrad, I supported you to eternity in the "Coalition of Freedom" situation, but this... no.
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Valsyvir
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Founded: Sep 10, 2014
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Postby Valsyvir » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:00 am

It is apparent from the previous debate that this resolution is a pretense at conquest and full of distortions and prevarications. The representative of the Confederacy of Valsyvir to the Security Council has been instructed by the Chancellor and government of Valsyvir to vote AGAINST this resolution.

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Kelinfort
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Founded: Nov 10, 2013
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Postby Kelinfort » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:38 am

As a former resident of said region, I am quite appalled by these baseless accusations and thinly veiled attempt to conquer the now devoid region. Fully and completely against. I feel inclined to personally censure the creator of this horrid resolution.

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Betoveria
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Founded: Jun 23, 2014
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Postby Betoveria » Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:26 am

I grow tired of seeing these pointless Liberation proposals; particularly this one, for the following reasons:
-it has no basis in hard fact
-the proposal shouldn't make me giggle when I read it, on simple account of being so absurd.
-the poster of said proposal has ruined his credibility and effectively cut off his own legs by engaging in flame battles with those who have had the temerity to oppose him in this resolution, and hurling personal insults at other delegates.
-the proposal honestly has no bearing on any sort of important matter. This isn't on account of being a Liberation; this is on account of the region NOT WANTING OR NEEDING this Liberation(which, by the way, natives have stated through posts they've made on this forum SEVERAL times).

As such, The United Socialist States of Betoveria casts its vote AGAINST.

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North Arkana
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Postby North Arkana » Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:36 am

Kelinfort wrote:As a former resident of said region, I am quite appalled by these baseless accusations and thinly veiled attempt to conquer the now devoid region. Fully and completely against. I feel inclined to personally censure the creator of this horrid resolution.

Don't worry, the mods have already done that in reference to his proposal to condemn DEC-LAND


by Sedgistan » Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:17 pm

That's quite enough of the attention-whoring and proposal spamming. Cut it out.
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Nation of Quebec
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Postby Nation of Quebec » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:51 am

This reeks of a smear campaign very similar to that equally ridiculous Liberate Capitalist Paradise resolution a couple months back. I have puppets in the VF and I have seen no evidence that they take part in any activities stated in the resolution. My WA puppet will be voting AGAIINST this ridiculous resolution that never should have seen the light of day.

Not liking a region is no excuse for a liberation.
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Elke and Elba
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Postby Elke and Elba » Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:07 am

Nation of Quebec wrote:This reeks of a smear campaign very similar to that equally ridiculous Liberate Capitalist Paradise resolution a couple months back. I have puppets in the VF and I have seen no evidence that they take part in any activities stated in the resolution. My WA puppet will be voting AGAIINST this ridiculous resolution that never should have seen the light of day.

Not liking a region is no excuse for a liberation.


"Indeed."

"I am rather appalled what actually comes to vote these days - do delegates actually check what they approve?!"
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Applebania
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Postby Applebania » Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:46 pm

Elke and Elba wrote:
Nation of Quebec wrote:This reeks of a smear campaign very similar to that equally ridiculous Liberate Capitalist Paradise resolution a couple months back. I have puppets in the VF and I have seen no evidence that they take part in any activities stated in the resolution. My WA puppet will be voting AGAIINST this ridiculous resolution that never should have seen the light of day.

Not liking a region is no excuse for a liberation.


"Indeed."

"I am rather appalled what actually comes to vote these days - do delegates actually check what they approve?!"

The new Applebanian delegate sighs.

"No, they never do..."
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Soviet Party
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Founded: Dec 29, 2012
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Postby Soviet Party » Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:42 pm

The delegation from the Commonwealth of Soviet Party is deeply saddened by the continual waste of this legislative body's time.

We feel that someone or a group of people are on a witch hunt. For whom we do not know.

Thus, we are compelled and wholly vote AGAINST this foolish resolution.

It seems that this body has been clogged with resolutions that have no purpose or reason.
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Lavan Tiri
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Postby Lavan Tiri » Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:05 pm

You know, Lenin, I shouod thank you. The last time something managed to have a sufficient amount of bullshit to make me care about the WA, it was Liberate Haven.

AGAINST


This is made up, unwanted by natives, and just dumb.

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Gristol-Serkonos
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Postby Gristol-Serkonos » Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:19 pm

The delegation of the Sovereign Empire is deeply disappointed with the continued waste of this esteemed legislative body's time discussing this drivel.

The Sovereign Empire demand that the author have their facts straightened out, and prove that the region of The Versutian Federation really is harbouring known members of the RnD gameplay.

Then again, we demand you prove everything you pointed out in your failed attempt to "liberate" a region.

As it stands, we, the members of the Sovereign Empire's delegation to the World Assembly, votes AGAINST this resolution.

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Redsward
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Founded: Mar 24, 2013
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Postby Redsward » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:36 am

Hmmm... Maybe I shouldn't have scrapped that proposal to condemn you, Lenin. Just need to remove as much as I can about CoF and add as much as I can about all of the gutter trash you've been putting on this f*cking forum.
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Ainin
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Postby Ainin » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:39 am

What utter nonsense.
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Postby Redsward » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:41 am

Redsward wrote:Hmmm... Maybe I shouldn't have scrapped that proposal to condemn you, Lenin. Just need to remove as much as I can about CoF and add as much as I can about all of the gutter trash you've been putting on this f*cking forum.

Sure, you'll be badass to all of raiderdom, but a disgrace to all other nations who understand. Condemnations show disgracefulness in a nation. From Kenny to Douria, they have all done something wrong. You may be next...

...and it may not be me who makes it happen.
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Redsward
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Postby Redsward » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:42 am

Redsward wrote:Hmmm... Maybe I shouldn't have scrapped that proposal to condemn you, Lenin. Just need to remove as much as I can about CoF and add as much as I can about all of the gutter trash you've been putting on this f*cking forum.

Ain't in the WA, but if I was, I'd vote AGAINST.
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Shy Guyia
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Postby Shy Guyia » Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:15 am

This is a far to early April fools joke, Lies everywhere. AGAINST.

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New Brussels
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Postby New Brussels » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:42 am

I had a good laugh
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Nation of Quebec
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Postby Nation of Quebec » Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:00 am

Again, this looks like another poorly written revenge based resolution that has absolutely no merit. It's such a shame to see these types of resolutions clogging up the Security Council. It makes me wonder if these delegates even read the resolutions before approving them.
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Jenlom
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Postby Jenlom » Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:16 am

What I think most illustrates is the fact that I read this:

"Amongst The Versutian Federation residents, voting is currently 0-23 (100% Against)."

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Soviet Party
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Postby Soviet Party » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:57 pm

Nation of Quebec wrote:Again, this looks like another poorly written revenge based resolution that has absolutely no merit. It's such a shame to see these types of resolutions clogging up the Security Council. It makes me wonder if these delegates even read the resolutions before approving them.


What's read?

/s

Seriously though, I wonder if people just blatantly click "vote for" just to avoid a "%nation% voted against X" on their page.
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Betoveria
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Postby Betoveria » Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:49 pm

Eugene V. Danson IV rises from his seat. He straightens his tie, adjusts his hammer-and-sickle lapel pin before speaking.

"In the history of the Union of Sapient Socialist Republics, I have never seen such an absurd motion called to vote in the World Assembly. Occasionally, one sees a seemingly pointless "Liberation" or a "Condemnation" without necessity for such. This, however, is beyond a lack of necessity. This, my friends and colleagues, is simply lies; almost to the point of slander, were it unnecessary disrespect and not liberation.

For years, I have been a political columnist in my hometown of Sanscroix. My great-grandfather was President of Betoveria for more than a decade. I always thought I ought to remain of peripheral involvement in politics at home, let alone GLOBAL politics, or even INTERPLANETARY politics; at least I thought so until now. Leningrad, I must inform you how much a disgrace you are to your namesake AS WELL AS your namesake's namesake. This is completely dishonorable on all counts, as have you been as a national representative. If the Security Council was not so stultifyingly in objection to this horrid piece of refuse you are calling legislation, I would have to resign from a position I only recently accepted, as Delegate from Betoveria. I could not be part of such a collective of sub-human thought. Fortunately, this council has greatly rejected your filth on the whole. While you have reduced my faith in those who herald the names of the spiritual fathers of Betoveria's socialist system. Leningrad, sir...

you are dismissed. Also, Chester; Mr. Pearson. I commend your first comment in this feed. Someone, get this man a cream puff. It will be tasty, as well as a symbolic food. A cream puff served at the debate of a puff piece. And believe me, as a former political columnist, I am intensely familiar with newspapers, and thus very familiar with the puff piece.

Thank you, my friends and colleagues. I look forward to the party to follow the blockage of this cream puff."

Danson sits down, and straightens his tie once more.

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Solarmania
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Postby Solarmania » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:23 pm

The Leningrad Union wrote:
Versutia wrote:Yes perfect. Call lies and slander on an official of the government you are throwing a liberation attempt at. I am the third longest serving member of the VF's Government. I have been a native of VF/TVF for going on a year now, I am a native of the region and natives control Versutian Federation. The only lies and slander going on here is your own proposal.

~Anhur

No one controls VF, it's a passworded barren wasteland that deserves to be liberated.

how did you get the major WA delegates to put this in the queue becaust it s a load of rotten porkshit and cow dung.
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