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by Wheeled States of Bifid » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:37 pm
Kalmak wrote:maybe a mediator is needed in this dispute.
Afforess wrote:This is how Democracy dies - with thunderous applause.
by Kringalia » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:39 pm
by Abacathea » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:48 pm
The Dourian Embassy wrote:Take a look at some of the other Pacifics(I'm partial to the West, but that's just me). There are plenty of places to go, people to meet and things to see. Enjoy yourself and don't take any of this too seriously.
by Cerian Quilor » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:52 pm
by Kringalia » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:01 pm
Cerian Quilor wrote:You are going to fail and be a laughingstock.
by Cerian Quilor » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:04 pm
by Kringalia » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:06 pm
by Hileville » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:09 pm
by the Imperial Crown » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:10 pm
- Lord Ravenclaw -
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by Milograd » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:32 pm
by Abacathea » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:48 pm
Milograd wrote:As someone who is fairly familiar with TSP's laws, I think that it's a bit odd circumstance for him not to have had a trial and/or a chance to defend himself against accusations of being a threat. However, I can't blame TSP for wanting to get rid of him, and think that this proposal is awful and doesn't deserve to exist.
If he tries to spam this thing into quorum, I'll vote against.
Hey now, don't laugh. My brother-in-law's best friend's twice-removed niece got me banned from TSP. :/
It's a crazy story, actually.
by Liberatia » Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:42 pm
and I have no compelling reason to believe my banning was legitimate.Kringalia wrote:Liberatia wrote:see? are you going to ban him for saying that? I doubt it. Yet you ban my brother, and you ban me for being his brother.
1. Just drop it. You've already been told that we don't have a camera in your room to know whether it was you or your brother at the keyboard, and honestly we don't have any compelling reason to believe you.
2. Don't take Belschaft literally (though he can be quite a dictator. )
3. You were ejected because of reasonable causes and following an internal discussion process. Your rights were not violated as per the Bill of Rights.
Hileville wrote:Let me be clear here your banning from the forums was an Administrative Team decision which is not appealable to the Assembly. While Belschaft had a say in this he wasn't the only person. You were banned for having 3 accounts trace back to your IP in which 2 of those accounts seeked citizenship. We have already told you that we have no way of knowing who is behind the computer much like NS and the WA. If you are found in violation of this forum policy you will most likely be banned. Your subsequent banning from the region was for security reasons and unrelated to the actual reason for the forum ban.
by Hileville » Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:53 pm
Liberatia wrote:yes, but I was also banned from TSP. also, this account, which I presume was the only one to have citizenship, did nothing wrong. the second was an ambassador, who did not seek citizenship. the third was my brother, who, from what I am aware seeked citizenship, but did not gain it (so, technically, only one account could be traced back to our IP address that held citizenship, which, I do not believe is a crime, and my brother claims that he only tried to gain citizenship after the chief justice suggested doing so in order for him to grant him trial. in fact, after checking the charter and code of laws, I have determined that there is no law that actually prohibits an IP address from holding two citizenships. so, even if I did apply for two, then you have no reason to ban me.
also, according to the charter, I have "The freedom to reside in the region of The South Pacific, and the right to not be ejected or banned without reasonable cause and due process of law."
the TSP government must, by law, grant me and my brother a trial.
by Kringalia » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:10 pm
Liberatia wrote:also, according to the charter, I have "The freedom to reside in the region of The South Pacific, and the right to not be ejected or banned without reasonable cause and due process of law."
the TSP government must, by law, grant me and my brother a trial.
by Liberatia » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:35 pm
Hileville wrote:Liberatia wrote:yes, but I was also banned from TSP. also, this account, which I presume was the only one to have citizenship, did nothing wrong. the second was an ambassador, who did not seek citizenship. the third was my brother, who, from what I am aware seeked citizenship, but did not gain it (so, technically, only one account could be traced back to our IP address that held citizenship, which, I do not believe is a crime, and my brother claims that he only tried to gain citizenship after the chief justice suggested doing so in order for him to grant him trial. in fact, after checking the charter and code of laws, I have determined that there is no law that actually prohibits an IP address from holding two citizenships. so, even if I did apply for two, then you have no reason to ban me.
also, according to the charter, I have "The freedom to reside in the region of The South Pacific, and the right to not be ejected or banned without reasonable cause and due process of law."
the TSP government must, by law, grant me and my brother a trial.
If you actually read my post you would have picked up on the fact that you were banned by the ADMIN TEAM which is not regulated by TSP Law. You broke forum administration policy of multying. You forum ban is not up for discussion. You can try and condemn Bel and TSP all you want but you still will not be unbanned from the forums.
by Jean Pierre Trudeau » Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:41 pm
Liberatia wrote:yes, maybe that applies to the forums. however, as for my banning from the region, the charter stipulates that I must be granted a trial.
by Todd McCloud » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:00 am
Kalmak wrote:maybe a mediator is needed in this dispute.
by TheStonedSurfers » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:47 pm
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