[ON HOLD] Commend Vippertooth33

by **Of the Free Socialist Territories** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:41 am

COMMEND VIPPERTOOTH33

The Security Council;

NOTING the extraordinary length of time for which [nation=short]Vippertooth33[/nation] has actively contributed towards the world,

PRAISING [nation=short]Vippertooth33[/nation]’s attitude of humility, namely the nation’s serving of others rather than ruling over them,

LAUDING [nation=short]Vippertooth33[/nation]’s steadfast defence regions across the world in the face of invasions and acts of aggression emanating from such regions as The URAP and NAZI EUROPE,

FURTHER RECOGNISING that the nation of [nation=short]Vippertooth33[/nation] has often taken it upon themselves to fight against racism throughout the world, stopping the spread of hatred and allowing tolerance to flourish in the process,

ALSO OBSERVING the excellent quality of life provided to the citizens of [nation=short]Vippertooth33[/nation], despite the active role their nation has taken in defending regions across the international community,

THEREFORE BELIEVING that [nation=short]Vippertooth33[/nation] has tirelessly worked towards the Security Council’s stated aim of ‘defending interregional peace and goodwill’,

ASTOUNDED that [nation=short]Vippertooth33[/nation] has been unrecognised by the international community for its tireless and continuous service to them,

SEEKING TO RECTIFY this unsatisfactory and unjust state of affairs,

HEREBY COMMENDS [nation=short]Vippertooth33[/nation].

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Feedback? I'd like to submit this within 48 hours if possible.

by **Paper Flowers** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:48 am

1. Evidence of any good works by Vippertooth33?
2. We're trying to commend griefers now?

by **Of the Free Socialist Territories** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:52 am

Paper Flowers wrote:1. Evidence of any good works by Vippertooth33?
2. We're trying to commend griefers now?

1) There is substantial oral history, from before my time and before yours, of the actions of The MT Army in defending regions from Nazi aggression and decommissioning Nazi regions. For a list of some of those, find 'Operation Overlord' on the ANTIFA RMB.

2) OH NOES! PEOPLE WHO GLORIFY AWFUL, AWFUL RL EVENTS AND THE MAN WHO CAUSED THEM ARE BEING DRIVEN FROM THEIR HOME REGIONS!
I'm saddened that you have a problem with people griefing Nazis. I'd consider that a commendable action in itself.

by **Topid** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:56 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Paper Flowers wrote:1. Evidence of any good works by Vippertooth33?
2. We're trying to commend griefers now?

I'm saddened that you have a problem with people griefing Nazis.

It is fairly Nazi-ish to think that a community should be destroyed if you dislike their beliefs.

OPPOSED

by **Paper Flowers** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:59 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:2) OH NOES! PEOPLE WHO GLORIFY AWFUL, AWFUL RL EVENTS AND THE MAN WHO CAUSED THEM ARE BEING DRIVEN FROM THEIR HOME REGIONS!
I'm saddened that you have a problem with people griefing Nazis. I'd consider that a commendable action in itself.

And once again we see the sort of people Antifa really are, nothing more than childish bullies who hope by finding an easy target they'll get the approval from their peers they find themselves lacking.

Needless to say I'm against this joke of a proposal.

by **Of the Free Socialist Territories** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:06 am

Topid wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
I'm saddened that you have a problem with people griefing Nazis.

It is fairly Nazi-ish to think that a community should be destroyed if you dislike their beliefs.

OPPOSED

Sorry, I forgot, we're fine with white supremacism and people advocating genocide here. :roll:

I take it you haven't read NAZI EUROPE's RMB.

Paper Flowers wrote:And once again we see the sort of people Antifa really are, nothing more than childish bullies who hope by finding an easy target they'll get the approval from their peers they find themselves lacking.

Needless to say I'm against this joke of a proposal.

Pointing out alleged childishness with insults. Nice one. The thing is, the majority of fascist regions in NS would be gone were it not for the UDL, so I don't see how a member of an organisation, whether they used to be in it or are still in it now, that has defended fascist regions repeatedly can comment on "getting the approval from their peers they find themselves lacking".

Other than your inherent prejudice against ANTIFA, do you have any other objections to this proposal?

Topid wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
I'm saddened that you have a problem with people griefing Nazis.

It is fairly Nazi-ish to think that a community should be destroyed if you dislike their beliefs.

OPPOSED

Going by your sig, you're the one who first condemned NAZI EUROPE in SC Resolution #3, where the words "hate" and "intolerance" are both mentioned twice. It's fairly Nazi-ish for you to condemn people for their beliefs, so le pot and le kettle...

by **Topid** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:11 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Topid wrote:It is fairly Nazi-ish to think that a community should be destroyed if you dislike their beliefs.

OPPOSED

Sorry, I forgot, we're fine with white supremacism and people advocating genocide here.

I take it you haven't read NAZI EUROPE's RMB.

I am familiar with NAZI EUROPE. :oops:

I also understand that attempting to eliminate a way of thought from society through force is wrong. I'm not okay with white "supremacism" or any supremacy, including the idea that anyone believing in the national socialist ideology deserves to be destroyed. Its no better than believing any Jewish community should be destroyed.

by **Of the Free Socialist Territories** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:13 am

Topid wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Sorry, I forgot, we're fine with white supremacism and people advocating genocide here.

I take it you haven't read NAZI EUROPE's RMB.

I am familiar with NAZI EUROPE.

I also understand that attempting to eliminate a way of thought from society through force is wrong. I'm not okay with white "supremacism" or any supremacy, including the idea that anyone believing in the national socialist ideology deserves to be destroyed. Its no better than believing any Jewish community should be destroyed.

I don't believe that they themselves should be destroyed, rather that they should be denied by a platform, by invasion if necessary, to spread their "ideology of hate", to quote you.

by **Topid** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:16 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Topid wrote:I am familiar with NAZI EUROPE.

I also understand that attempting to eliminate a way of thought from society through force is wrong. I'm not okay with white "supremacism" or any supremacy, including the idea that anyone believing in the national socialist ideology deserves to be destroyed. Its no better than believing any Jewish community should be destroyed.

I don't believe that they themselves should be destroyed, rather that they should be denied by a platform, by invasion if necessary, to spread their "ideology of hate", to quote you.

Indeed, if we allow them their own communities they'd be fairly dangerous. May I suggest some form of camp?

by **Radiatia** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:21 am

Never heard of them.

Opposed.

by **Proletaurus** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:42 am

FOR

If there is some one who really deserve that Honor it would be Vippertooth33.

Condemnation would be good too.

by **Parti Ouvrier** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:08 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Topid wrote:I am familiar with NAZI EUROPE.

I also understand that attempting to eliminate a way of thought from society through force is wrong. I'm not okay with white "supremacism" or any supremacy, including the idea that anyone believing in the national socialist ideology deserves to be destroyed. Its no better than believing any Jewish community should be destroyed.

I don't believe that they themselves should be destroyed, rather that they should be denied by a platform, by invasion if necessary, to spread their "ideology of hate", to quote you.

I stand against this 'no platform' idea, how else are we to expose them? And besides, 'no platform' shows a lack of confidence in your arguments for human liberation.

We shouldn't no platform ourselves.

by **Of the Free Socialist Territories** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:10 am

Parti Ouvrier wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
I don't believe that they themselves should be destroyed, rather that they should be denied by a platform, by invasion if necessary, to spread their "ideology of hate", to quote you.

I stand against this 'no platform' idea, how else are we to expose them. And besides, 'no platform' shows a lack of confidence in your arguments for human liberation.

We shouldn't no platform ourselves.

The GGR does a good enough job of being a platform as it is, they don't need any others.

by **Parti Ouvrier** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:13 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Parti Ouvrier wrote:
I stand against this 'no platform' idea, how else are we to expose them. And besides, 'no platform' shows a lack of confidence in your arguments for human liberation.

We shouldn't no platform ourselves.

The GGR does a good enough job of being a platform as it is, they don't need any others.

Constantly taking over fascist regions actually leads to more of these fascist regions.

by **The Great Destruction** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:15 am

Even though they were Nazis the attacks seem unprovoked. This is a well written proposal but it feels biased, unbased, and misplaced.

Also I'm sure Skyrim would say that its ugly but that doesn't matter to me.

I'm opposed.

by **Of the Free Socialist Territories** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:15 am

Parti Ouvrier wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
The GGR does a good enough job of being a platform as it is, they don't need any others.

Constantly taking over fascist regions actually leads to more of these fascist regions.

In my experience, at least half of banjected natives just die off and most of the rest just skulk off to larger regions, which are in turn destroyed.

Surely most of these fascist regions would form anyway?

The Great Destruction wrote:Even though they were Nazis the attacks seem unprovoked. This is a well written proposal but it feels biased, unbased, and misplaced.

Also I'm sure Skyrim would say that its ugly but that doesn't matter to me.

I'm opposed.

Going by what I know of the history of NS from that time, the Nazis struck first, and Vippertooth33 started doing what he did as a response to the Nazis, chiefly NAZI EUROPE, attacking various sundry innocent regions.

by **Parti Ouvrier** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:17 am

The Great Destruction wrote:Even though they were Nazis the attacks seem unprovoked. This is a well written proposal but it feels biased, unbased, and misplaced.

Also I'm sure Skyrim would say that its ugly but that doesn't matter to me.

I'm opposed.

If it actually gets to the voting floor, I'll abstain.

by **Cromarty** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:28 am

Antifa-authored proposal?

Opposed.

by **Of the Free Socialist Territories** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:29 am

Cromarty wrote:Antifa-authored proposal?

Opposed.

I'd love to say that your reaction surprises me.

Unfortunately, it doesn't.

by **Skyrim Diplomacy** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:32 am

The Great Destruction wrote:Even though they were Nazis the attacks seem unprovoked. This is a well written proposal but it feels biased, unbased, and misplaced.

Also I'm sure Skyrim would say that its ugly but that doesn't matter to me.

I'm opposed.

Correct.

Why so many nation tags?? Not like we will forget what nation is in question halfway through the proposal. And, since this is basically a condemnation revolving solely around defending, which many nations do (making the action un-unique), this nation does not merit the attention of the SC. I'm OPPOSED to the proposal, and it will not receive my approval nor vote should it reach quorum.

by **Drop Your Pants** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:34 pm

NOTING the extraordinary length of time for which [nation=short]Vippertooth33[/nation] has actively contributed towards the world,

How has the nation in question contributed to the world?

LAUDING [nation=short]Vippertooth33[/nation]’s steadfast defence of regions across the world in the face of invasions and acts of aggression emanating from such regions as The URAP and NAZI EUROPE,

Isn't he currently raiding a region? :palm:

FURTHER RECOGNISING that the nation of [nation=short]Vippertooth33[/nation] has often taken it upon themselves to fight against racism throughout the world, stopping the spread of hatred and allowing tolerance to flourish in the process,

Example please, and more than 3 since you used often.

ASTOUNDED that [nation=short]Vippertooth33[/nation] has been unrecognised by the international community for its tireless and continuous service to them,

Honestly never heard of them before

by **Nationalist State of Knox** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:43 pm

Of The Free Socialist Territories wrote:FURTHER RECOGNISING that the nation of [nation=short]Vippertooth33[/nation] has often taken it upon themselves to fight against racism throughout the world, stopping the spread of hatred and allowing tolerance to flourish in the process,

Pics or it didn't happen.

Well not pics... You know... Just evidence would be nice...

by **Of the Free Socialist Territories** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:06 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Of The Free Socialist Territories wrote:FURTHER RECOGNISING that the nation of [nation=short]Vippertooth33[/nation] has often taken it upon themselves to fight against racism throughout the world, stopping the spread of hatred and allowing tolerance to flourish in the process,

Pics or it didn't happen.

Well not pics... You know... Just evidence would be nice...

I've asked Proletaurus for the list, it's about 70 regions in all.

by **Of the Free Socialist Territories** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:34 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:
NOTING the extraordinary length of time for which [nation=short]Vippertooth33[/nation] has actively contributed towards the world,

How has the nation in question contributed to the world?

By stopping Nazi takeovers of many uninvolved regions.

Drop Your Pants wrote:
LAUDING [nation=short]Vippertooth33[/nation]’s steadfast defence of regions across the world in the face of invasions and acts of aggression emanating from such regions as The URAP and NAZI EUROPE,

Isn't he currently raiding a region?

That doesn't mean that he hasn't defended regions from Nazi aggression in the past.

Drop Your Pants wrote:
FURTHER RECOGNISING that the nation of [nation=short]Vippertooth33[/nation] has often taken it upon themselves to fight against racism throughout the world, stopping the spread of hatred and allowing tolerance to flourish in the process,

Example please, and more than 3 since you used often.

When I get the list, I'll post it here.

Drop Your Pants wrote:
ASTOUNDED that [nation=short]Vippertooth33[/nation] has been unrecognised by the international community for its tireless and continuous service to them,

Honestly never heard of them before

That surprises me somewhat.

by **Nationalist State of Knox** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:04 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Pics or it didn't happen.

Well not pics... You know... Just evidence would be nice...

I've asked Proletaurus for the list, it's about 70 regions in all.

How in any way is taking regions "stopping the spread of hatred in the world"?

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